Is this really peak performance /fit/?
If you had to fight for your life in 90 days, would you just dirty bulk?

>>76311496 (OP)
He's as overhyped as jon jones and got punked by some chechens who slapped his daughter and brainwashed his brother

>>76311496 (OP)
>would you just dirty bulk?
Yes but I would also do a lot of cardio

>fight for your life in 90 days
well both parties would have weapons by then right?

>>76311510
both him and jon jones were truly elite though. so even though overhyped, people hyped the right fighters

>>76311510
Hey fuck you

>>76311496 (OP)
Did he even keep lifting into fighting

>>76311496 (OP)
It's wrasslin for people who believe that they don't fall for wrasslin

>>76311496 (OP)
you get stronger by lifting and eating a lot, simple as

>>76311496 (OP)
no, I would spend all my time training to fight and not fucking around in the gym. 90 days isnt enough to make significant strength gains that would make more a difference in a fight than skill does

>>76311496 (OP)
>posting him post pride

>>76311510
>this short guy who beat up bigger guys is as over rated as this 7' reach guy who beat up 6' guys

>>76311611
Still fat though

>>76311625
In sanctioned fighting, different body typed have different avantages that nullify raw strength and size arguments
Cormier, volk, DJ all did it

>>76311653
>being short is an advantage
This is a crazy level of random thought.

>>76311666
Indian tier reading comprehension. Ask chatgpt to reiterate my post for you

>>76311653
there's 0 advantage to having short arms in mma

>>76311496 (OP)
Fedor body looks like shit, but he is unironically athletic. Just look at his workout videos.

>>76311611
Fedor has bad bodybuilding genetics.

>>76311496 (OP)
His physique has nothing to do with it, what makes him stand out is that he has genuinely fast hands, not fast hands for a heavyweight, he is just plain fast and he did that by lifting weights as fast as possible.
That's the secret he grabbed fairly heavy weights and moved them as fast as possible which obviously allows him to move faster but also generate force in the time it takes him to move the weight which is called rate of force production, aka power.
His physique at most added weight to his punches but similar to mike tyson his special attribute was being fast and also much like mike tyson, fedor is extremely overrated in mma, he is fast and hits hard but Fedor always competed in b tier promotions and never had real competition.

>>76311611
Looks exactly the same.

>>76311496 (OP)
Pride Fedor was still my favorite mma thing ever. Guy was incredible to watch. i dont care if he was juicing and fighting retarded exhibition matches. His hand speed and ability to switch modes was the greatest I have ever seen. And his ability to be put in bad position and turn them into wins. ANd his whole demeanor.

>>76312078
What about this one?

>>76311734
>there's 0 advantage to having short arms in mma-ACK!

>>76311496 (OP)
He cant bodyshot ko like mike at all, hes almost as fast but does not hit as hard, maybe due to mma style ofc would likely beat mike via wrestling.

>>76312074
how do other boxers punch slow but also hard?
example earnie shavers, sonny liston

etc

>>76312218
their upper limbs are probably lighter

>>76312218
Be literally big boned? If you hold a dumbbell in your hand you're not going to punch as fast but the extra mass will make up for it.

>>76312228
>>76312234
i dont think you guys understand punching power

it isnt just a velocity mass equation

>>76312238
I understand getting hit by a wooden baseball bat will hurt a lot more than getting hit by a wiffle ball bat very quickly.

>>76312242
yes but so much of it we do not understand
for instance, by your own science, a small hand should hit harder
less surface area

so much of punching power is an enigma. you have speed, perfect technique and never have have KO power.
Do you think mayweather doesnt have those?

watch powerful boxers, they dont even hit hard. mark hunt doesnt even throw that fast

>>76312245
There are countless variables. Getting hit by a 1 million pound bat would hurt less than getting hit by a wooden baseball bat because nobody would be able to swing a million pound bat fast enough to be meaningful.

>>76311882
Nah if he lifted correctly hed be like 260+ natural leanish assuming natural in op pic(no veins but fat).

>>76312234

>>76312218
Rate of force development, that's your body ability to produce force, aka power.
The speed of the move doesn't matter with rfd, in fact being faster makes it harder to produce power because you have less time to produce force.
With fedor i mentioned he lifted relatively heavy weights fast, if you lift anywhere from 60 to 90% of your 1rm and move it as fast as possible you will develop speed and power, if you lift lighter weights you will develop speed but no power because the force production isn't high, if you lift heavy weights fast but not as fast as you can, this produces more force development but not as much speed because you are close to your max force production (your 1 rm) but it doesn't develop as much speed because you are not trying to move as fast as possible.
This is called intent, if you try to move as fast as possible, you will get faster, if you try to move as fast as possible under heavy load near your max you develop speed and power, if you try to move as much force as possible fast but prioritizing force rather than speed, then you develop power but not much speed.

Now Arnie and liston weren't lifting weights during their time, this was as a general example, they mostly did calisthenics but applied the same concept, when you do high reps in calisthenics approaching failure you can still build muscle and strength, they did that but trying to apply as much force as possible and since they were approaching failure this made those last few reps felt like heavy weights which develop their power but not so much their speed.

Basically, fast but weak fighters move fast but don't generate enough force, fighters that are slow but hit hard generate force but don't try to move fast and fighters that have speed and power move fast and generate a lot of force.

>>76312074
Lighter gloves?

>>76312218
They don't punch slow. They just move their whole body into their punches, which is naturally slower than a arm-only jab even at top speeds.

>>76312300
Fedor didn't lift weights, his training is well documented. He claimed grappling with other heavyweights was enough for max strength.

>>76311510
Moslems are state-protected nobility in russia, he couldn't do shit.

>>76311520
Jones just fought dirty as fuck and got away with it because he's black and the UFC is afraid of being called racist.

>>76312238
>i dont think you guys understand punching power
/fit/ doesn't understand a lot of things. Americans really only think in memes.

>>76312245
The problem is you were taught wrong. Just look at the power punchers before WW2. They know how to do it. Their technique is completely different from what we use today. Hence, we have no actual power punchers anymore, just can destroyers. The guy with the highest KO rate in MMA was taught by George Foreman, just saying. It's a skill thing anyone can learn, but doesn't. Especially the "whites" in America are completely uninterested in it and prefer lifting heavy weights.

People have no common sense anymore.

>you encounter 55 Fedors in the second story of Pavlov’s house 1942
>your MP40 jams and your threw your last grenade getting there
What do?

>>76313068
I pull out the artillery luger I carry specifically for such a case.

>a good warrior is determined by throwing two guys in an enclosed environment in protective gear who kick and punch each other following man-made rules

All combat sports are just a clown show. Too many cases of MMA fighters not acting humble enough and getting killed in street fights.

>>76312245
>. you have speed, perfect technique and never have have KO power.
You cannot achieve 100% power with bad technique, ask any track and field guy, oly lifter etc.
Yet only in combat sports is a distinction made between "perfect technique" and "perfect power".
Conclusion: What you think is perfect technique is actually bad technique that minimizes your power. What you think is sloppy, bad technique is actually good technique.
That's why you cannot find a good puncher who is also said to have good technique.

>Do you think mayweather doesnt have those?
Mayweather has a technique that 100% geared towards exploiting the rules of the sport of boxing, not towards maximizing power.

>>76313236
True.

>>76313340
>Mayweather has a technique that 100% geared towards exploiting the rules of the sport of boxing
Yep. The technique of "run away", "run away", "run away and rabbit punch". Jesus christ I hate that faggot.

>>76313236
Yet if you faced that guy you would gas in 10 seconds and he would make you shit yourself before passing out with one arm tied behind his back

Curious

>>76313721
He's a fat fuck, he'll tire out running after you as you throw rocks at him

>>76313732
Never watched his fights, confirmed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHBzZFywwGg

>>76313652
>noooo the mongols arent playing fair i hate them

>>76311496 (OP)
Unironically the peak physique of a heavyweight champion. Built for fighting.

>>76311510
>some chechens who slapped his daughter and brainwashed his brother
qrd? chechens are mafia and Fedor is a Christian good guy

>>76313848
That's some butthurted brown or ukrainian cocksucker talking bullshit. Fedor had some barely significant conflicts with caucasians online in media, that's it. This shit with almighty chechens in Russia is overhyped, they often get ACKed as well.

>>76313236
This guy is a literal faggot btw.

>>76312074
>Be undersized for your division
>Beat the absolute best in the world for ten years without losing
>Be overrated
Kek

>>76314552
that's the same type of faggot who will be circlejerking about how great he was after he's dead

>>76313828
Did you really just equate a sports match with war?

>>76313848
Fedor's daughter was attacked by Chechens because he said Kadyrov's kids fighting MMA is not good, he cucked out because Chechens are nobility in russia and he couldn't do shit. That was in 2016.

>>76313893
>Russian internet defense force posts immediately
lmao sup /pol/

>>76314653
>nobility
I thought they were some impoverished minority.

>>76313893
Kadyrov literally poses with his brother like he's some fighting rooster cattle and protected the aggressors of his daughter
I have no idea if fedor tried to retaliate but iirc he pussied out and pulled some thou shall turn the other cheek shit

>>76311496 (OP)
he's scary but if he hugged me i think i would melt
i kinda wanna kiss his tummy while he strokes my hair

>>76314754
Are you trans

>>76314778
no i'm a twink

>>76314782
are you also into men's sweat smell

>>76311496 (OP)
>Height 6 ft 0 in
>Weight 237 lb
>Can't even spell "Fedora"
No, he probably can't even run a 10-minute mile.

>>76314552
>Beat the absolute best b tier promotion fighters in the world for ten years without losing
Ftfy.

>>76311570
Yes it absolutely is especially if you're currently weak which you sound like you are

>>76312074
>His physique has nothing to do with it, what makes him stand out is that he has genuinely fast hands, not fast hands for a heavyweight, he is just plain fast and he did that by lifting weights as fast as possible.
No he did it by genetics

>>76314476
>annoying narcissist namefag is also gay
whaaaat

There's a reason he never step foot in the ufc.

>>76311496 (OP)
How does he have the cardio for mma at that weight? They make PEDs for cardio, right?

>>76314791
that depends
usually no but maybe sometimes

>>76312771
>The problem is you were taught wrong. Just look at the power punchers before WW2. They know how to do it. Their technique is completely different from what we use today.
where to learn this?

>>76314945
But he wasn't fighting in the UFC

He even beat the best of the actual B-team in Affliction (Arlovski, Sylvia)

>>76314952
Because the UFC was absolute dogshit during the majority of his career?

Like Oh no! He never fought.... Gan McGee and Cabbage Correira now we'll never know how truely good he was!

>>76315267
He was beating future UFC champions at their peak in PRIDE.

Zoomers don't know that UFC was a C-tier promotion for over a decade.

Boomers seething, pride hasn't been relevant since the mid 90s

>>76315298
>hasn't been relevant since the mid 90s
>founded in 1997
based retard

>>76315302
Kek.

>>76313340
So punching power actually is just the kinetic chain?