Thread 76312402

Can someone look at my X-ray?

I've also had a CT and MRI.

Bone spurs and some bulged discs, one is moderate. Got it done last fall, when should I get another?

I had an epidural steroid injection which helped some with the neck pain.

However, I have T1, T2 upper back pain pretty much all the time and don't know what to do about it. Tylenol ibuprofen and muscle relaxers help and sometimes tropicals

Been going to chiro and it has helped my posture but I'm still in pain.

Anyway if you got any experience with neck issues I would like to hear it, thanks.

Here's my MRI report if anyone has feedback on that

>>76312402 (OP)
I think I found your issue. You have a tiny magnifying glass lodged in your neck.

>>76312402 (OP)
Tbh, I don't really know what the non-surgical option for joints when they get into the lower-cervical / thoracic area. You could look into some neck traction devices, or even maybe a inversion table. It would mostly be to help with the disc bulging, might provide some pain relief. The degenerative stuff would be up to the doctors though since there probably isn't a therapeutic solution to that. G'luck anon

>>76312402 (OP)
There appears to be some narrowing of the intervertebral disc spaces, especially in the lower cervical vertebrae (around C5–C7), which might suggest degenerative disc disease.
There might be small osteophytes (bony projections) at some levels, again indicating cervical spondylosis, a form of arthritis due to wear and tear.
The vertebral bodies themselves mostly look intact and without obvious fractures or collapse.
There doesn’t appear to be significant subluxation (displacement) or dislocation.
Not clearly visualized, but no gross abnormalities are obvious in the posterior structures of the spine.


You’ve done quite a bit right already. The persistent T1–T2 pain could stem from:
Residual cervical nerve involvement
Thoracic facet or muscular issues
Postural strain that still needs deeper muscular balance correction

Consider an MRI of the upper thoracic spine and consult a physiatrist or spine specialist who can integrate all of this, imaging, nerve involvement, muscle imbalance, and customize your care.

Op here this is from like four years of BJJ btw

>>76312402 (OP)
Do you suffer from severe military neck?

>>76312450
Never was a zog bot my guy

>>76312402 (OP)
I'm an expert. I would wrap up everything you have left unfinished, because you don't have much time.

>>76312452
military neck is a disorder, it has nothing to do with the military.

It means in laymen terms that the neck STANDS UP STRAIGHT.
and is lacking its natural kyphosis.

>>76312466
I have kyphosis too

>>76312472
Well yeah dude, the neck has natural cervical kyphosis.
this is different than spinal kyphosis presenting in the ribcage.

My suggestion since I dealt with this over the last few years is behind the back chest stretches, scapula under/over hand clasp.

>>76312479
Did you see my X-ray lol the kyphosis is not my neck

>>76312484
Are you shitposting or ESL?
You just said you have kyphosis and I said yes. The neck should have a natural kyphosis.

If you back kyphosis I gave you two suggestions to fix it.

>>76312491
the neck has a natural lordosis you fucking retard. holy dunning Kruger

>>76312491
"If you back kyphosis"

And you're calling me ESL?

>>76312522
>i'm only pretending to be retarded

>>76312526
>if you back

For you.

>>76312527
if i push on your back would it be painful?

>>76312528
Yesh

Are chiro even worth going to for stuff like this????

>>76312402 (OP)
You need to get to hospital

>>76312442
>this is from like four years of BJJ btw
Why does everyone get injured from this shitty sport? I thought it was supposed to be the least injury prone combat sport.

>>76312533
This was at an orthopedic surgeon's office

>>76312534
Lol exactly

>>76312534
I recently decided to quit BJJ. Too much of an injury risk. After blue belt level, you've pretty much reaped all of the rewards as far as fighting an untrained person goes, and you're just destroying your body for sport jiu jitsu. After I found out that something like 90% of people who tear their ACL develop osteoarthritis in the future, I decided to hang it up.

>>76312574
I don't think full ass ACL tears are really that common, I've personally sprained the MCL though

Everyone's spine scans look fucked. Don't get kiked.

>>76312402 (OP)
We are not your doctor retard.

>>76312614
I'm not asking you to be one, faggot

>>76312402 (OP)
Hmmm yes it seems to have a severe case of lack of rope.

>>76312599
My point more or less was that even if you "recover" from an injury, it's still not like how it was before, and can cause you serious problems in the future.
Were you doing any strength work for your neck? I trained my neck and never had any injuries to it from BJJ, could be just a coincidence, though. I found that getting strong at neck extensions in particular helped a lot with getting out of guillotine chokes

>>76312617
A gorilla did a can opener on me so not really anything that could have been prevented with exercise.

>>76312631
That sucks and is why I quit. You just can't trust retards with your body in vulnerable positions. Having a strong neck actually might've helped by having your neck muscles take off some pounds of force that would've been on your spine.
Muay thai is fun and I'm gonna start doing it again. Striking + a good sprawl and you will beat the piss out of most BJJ nerds who built their game around spider guard

>>76312657
My neck is pretty strong.
I still train!
Anyway it's more my upper back bothering me these days.

>>76312414
You moved during the MRI
What's your NCS/EMG say?
Probably you need ACDF in the future.
Need to work on your neck muscles and quit doom scrolling

>>76313512
>You moved

I actually didn't think I did so I have no idea why it says that
I'll take a Xanax before the next one

I have no pinched nerves

I'm not getting a fusion lol

I'm not doom scrolling lmfao did you miss the post where I said what did it

Fat niggers need to read the entire thread before replying

In what actual movements do you feel pain? Is it around the neck/traps or just in general your upper back? Certain movements?

>>76313780
>I'll take a Xanax before the next one
smart idea ngl

>>76313512
Nta but i have a 4/10 left/upper back/neck pain from doing barbell shrugs yesterday and the barbell slipped off. I had this pain like 3 months ago from something similar and it passed but now it's the 2nd day and I still feel it, i'm i cooked?

>>76313791
Anything that isn't laying down in a recliner so just walking around the house will be excruciating.
Nothing triggers it, it's always there

I constantly feel like I need to look up and pinch my shoulders to try to stretch and get some pops

Bump

>>76312402 (OP)
Yeah looks like you've got a wisdom tooth FAGGOT

>>76315450
I do

>>76313780
>Fat niggers need to read the entire thread before replying
I'm the ortho bro, and you're the fatass here.
Yes, we can tell you're fat from the xray
>thin person cervical Xray
https://centenoschultz.com/wp-content/uploads/csc-neck-xray.jpg
Post body to prove me wrong.
>>76313799
Not really, you probably injured some insertions around upper back.
Can you point where exactly?
Try some Ibuprofen and stretching for few days and avoid shrugs for 10 days, usually it should go away by then.

Start doing back hyperextensions starting with only holds to build muscle around your spine. Also I assume chiropractors are a scam and shouldn't be taken seriously. Try physical therapy.

>>76312414
Modic alterations means instability, which can lead so surgery in the future, not necessarily right now.
Disc space narrowing is irrelevant, your discs are just getting degenerated, as everyone else will have, but yours are just doing it faster. It might mean pain, but many aren't that symptomatic.
Posterior disc bulging and uncovertebral spurrs without canal narrowing means not surgery.
Foraminal narrowing without symptoms aren't something to worry about. If you have radicular symptoms, there is medication for that.
Canal narrowing, retrolisthesis are something to worry about, specially if you start feeling neurological symptoms.

Basically your spine doesn't need surgical treatment right away, but you must understand that it can become something that needs surgical intervention in the future.
Spine MRI is more or less of a meme if you are not thinking on surgery or interventional treatments. The basic treatment is based on symptoms, not on the exam findings. There is an increase in surgical indications without an increase in positive results by doing an early MRI and there is enough evidence to show that a huge percentage (about 50% in some series) of surgical indications would be equaly treated without surgery. If someone tells you to get surgery, without doing conservative treatment and without clear spine stenosis symptoms, or obvious and recurrent radicular pain, kill him. Cervical generally has better surgical indications than lumbar though, so take that in mind. You have to do the normal thing: strengthening, physiotherapy program, over the counter medication, heat bags to relieve your muscles and stretching. I would go to some spine physiotherapy clinic by now.

>>76317314
Cool thanks
No one's told me I need surgery in fact they said I don't
Most invasive thing so far was an epidural steroid injection in my neck because my neck used to bother me more than my upper back

>>76317509
Need is a strong word. You might not "need" surgery based on the lesions your exam shows you. But if you are doing optimized treatment, 3-6 months in and you see no improvement and this is limiting your normal activities, then surgery already is a consideration, as pain is one reason to do it.

However, before the knife, you should try all reasonable alternatives as the chance of worsening your pain or something worse is not 0%.

>>76317579
What's interesting to me is the pain is now in my t1 t2 spaces and my neck feels tolerable so idk what's going on there besides kyphosis

>>76312411
Underrated

Bump

>>76316886
>Can you point where exactly?
Pic rel. I slept on my stomatch last night and it got worse this morning, sharp pain when i tilt up/look up and when i tilt my head to my left shoulder. I got the flu on top of that, last week i was benching 2pl8 and now im bed ridden fuck this gay ass shit

>>76320168
You're not me but ok