So... how do you achieve this?
For the physical health reasons listed

>>76314884 (OP)
I dated a BPD whore for a little bit and it was my only experience with a girl. We never kissed or had sex (because my gut knew something was wrong) but those few moments were the best I've ever felt in my whole life. I honestly feel even more like shit than before because now I know what I'm missing out on.

And to think normalfags take this all for granted and have the nerve to tell me "bro just enjoy being single, I actually prefer it!" before immediately getting into another relationship.

I am 31 years old and I never even kissed a girl

>>76314937
what was wrong with her

This can be achieved just by liking a girl who likes you back but you never talk to
Ask me how I know

>>76314959
Mexican. Shit tested me a lot and went crazy if I'd ignore her, accusing me of talking to other girls (I wish lol). Did drugs and her apartment was a mess. One day she'd say she loved me and next day act like I'm the worst person in the world.

I broke things off when she told me she gave her number to another guy to see my reaction.

>>76314884 (OP)
>having no gf even kills your gains
its so over

>>76314884 (OP)
the only “mutual love energy” that truly matters is between yourself and Jesus Christ. You think some girl in your arms will mean you will be a better man. A stronger man, a more content man. You wallow in your own misery. Chasing a paradox. The very reason you never receive love is because you never give it. You lust. Chasing a fantasy of some sweetheart that will never annoy or frustrate you, spread her legs for you, and most importantly, only you. Anyone who has been with a woman knows how foolish it is to control them, much less trust them. God knows you want a good woman. God knows you want true love. Submit to Jesus, and He will give you all you desire, and more.

Reflect on this. God bless.

yeah im 33 and a kissless virgin, obviously never had a girl interested in me, never even really had much in the way of female friends. i ended up as a complete loser, basically the exact replica of that photo (here i sit in the house on a beautful saturday doing nothing) and the lack of a woman probably has something to do with it. ive just never cared about life at all.

something thats even sadder is that recently i have been spending some time with a woman completely 100% platonically. its a hobby i do and her and her husband both do it as well, so we regularly carpool to the hobby together, but sometimes just me and her go together. i will never try anything with her obviously, and i dont even find her that attractive, either physically or personality-wise shes pretty loud and talks way too much. but even just regularly interacting with her vs. just other guys, it makes me feel better about life. or when i had female coworkers who i actually liked talking to, it made working feel a lot better than either talking to no one or just guys.


>>76314937
>>76314970
sounds like what would happen if i ever got into a relationship. be some beta cuck faggot who puts up with bullshit just to have her around. but thats definitely some latina stuff they love to do.

>>76314963
How?

>>76314884 (OP)
Learn to love yourself.

>>76314884 (OP)
>So... how do you achieve this?
Live better.
if digits I delete the Maisie folder.

i've been in plenty of relationships but i don't think i've ever really been in love. I had some moments that felt like it but my life was too stable and rote by the time I was dating for serious reasons that I think it kind of sabotaged things. Maybe life has to be a bit rocky to truly fall in love. I had a oneitis at one point but I can't guarantee she wouldn't have just gotten boring after too long

>>76314884 (OP)
This is so true. I fell in love with a girl after I met her in my dreams and I feel reinvigorated. I love her so much bros.

There's no such thing as mutual love, because men love selfishly and women love according to your ability to provide for them. It's not a symmetrical exchange

>>76314999
>sounds like what would happen if i ever got into a relationship. be some beta cuck faggot who puts up with bullshit just to have her around
Yeah looking back I put up with a lot of her bullshit. Like I called her fat once and then I apologized cause I was scared, I should have stuck to my word not giving a shit. Maybe that's even why things started to fall apart between us, cause I was spineless.
I sometimes think I should have just fucked her and speedy gonzales'd away but I'm not that type of person.

At least I learned my lesson. I've been chatting with another girl and everytime she says some dumb shit I just leave her on read. Don't even bother sending her the first text anymore, she always comes back around even if it takes a month.

>>76314937
>but those few moments were the best I've ever felt in my whole life
are you retarded?

>>76315067
Whole life I was ignored and thought I was going to die alone and then suddenly I had a girl all over me saying she loves me. No shit it fucked me up, It's like I did heroin.

I don't think love and relationships in general exists, the couples are NPCs that spawn together and they're preprogrammed to spawn around you to torment me showing me an illusion of a thing i can never get

>>76315062
>>76315075
sounds like she was a girl who wanted to just treat a shy autistic guy like shit for her own shits and giggles

>>76315083
that doesn't lessen the feels he experienced at the time, only in retrospect, but the initial feelings were genuine

We need prenatal testing to determine which boys will grow up to be incels and which ones won’t. I would gladly abort a future incel son if I could. It’s a life of utter misery.

I had sex with a woman in my dreams and she didn't magically sprout a penis for once. I'm making progress.

>>76314884 (OP)
Sex haver here. Going into my late 30’s. I haven’t met a woman that has contributed positively to my life in the last 15 years.
Sure its nice getting to know them for the first few months but then the burden comes. You have to care for them and do things you don’t feel like doing. Listen to emotional baggage, deal with arguments about nonsensical things. Help out financially.
Sex is nice but the cost of all the mental turmoil is not.

>>76315217
Why can't women just chill the fuck out? Why do they always have to argue about inconsequential shit?

>>76315140
yep i wish it had happened to me

>>76315366
many reasons. hypergamy, emotional instability, shit testing, simple boredom.

My ex and I used to have great dates. Then on the ride back home she would start a petty argument seemingly for fun. Sometimes it was to get information out of me. Or to see how much I cared. I never understood what she got out of it. Probably because the motive was different every time. I think it can all be summed up in that Freud quote.

"The great question that has never been answered, and which I have not yet been able to answer, despite my thirty years of research into the feminine soul, is 'What does a woman want?'"

One thing I have found in all women is that even if they think you’re the perfect man for them; One day it that feeling will change. It may take days, months, years. But one day they’ll be fully convinced that another man is better.
I don’t care if you’re handsome rich and famous. They will convince themselves that since they caught you, they *must* be able to catch someone more handsome more rich and more famous.

That said. Freud, in all his wisdom and intellect, was likely asking the wrong question. Instead of asking “*what do* women want?” he should strive to find out “When don’t women want?” The logical answer is never. The way you handle that answer determines the kind of man you are.

>>76314937
I dated a BPD whore who lied to me about everything and gave me an STD and shattered confidence

>>76315382
I will add that the answer to “When don’t women want” isn’t never. There is an exception. An exception that annoys many. Religion, in particular Christianity.

There’s a reason losers on these boards will bitch and moan day and night about how they pray constantly for a good Christian girl. They exist. They will, through the goodness of God, transcend the want for any other man; provided they believe they have found *the* man God has granted for them. Needless to say these girls are very few and very far between. But they exist.

The problem is that many have sealed their fate. Lost the race before it has started. They chase girls with values they admire, but live in ways that contradict those values. They want a girl who prays, but they never open a Bible. They want a girl who’s patient and disciplined, but they chase pleasure and avoid commitment. They want a girl who’s faithful, but they flirt with anything that moves.

It’s not that good girls don’t exist. It’s that good girls don’t want to settle for guys who talk Christian but don’t walk it.

Sure, you can fake it. But God will not be mocked. Sooner or later the act will crack. Your lust or wrath will come out of you - because in the presence of God it has to. They *always* lose the girl. Because true conviction can’t be performed. In that way, I think God is real. There’s no getting around him. If you want a Christian good girl who will be loyal and faithful you have to be a real man of God. No exceptions. Otherwise, have fun with worthless Godless sluts. See how far that takes you.

>>76315054
at least someone with brains in this thread

>>76314884 (OP)
>So... how do you achieve this?
Listen buddy, even the 5'1" Indian janitor finally made it.
It's over for you.

>>76315054
>>76315443


>women love according to your ability to provide for them

lying cope from men who will never know a woman's love.
trying being 6'2" and blonde, then tell me about "provisions".

Can't believe men so relentlessly full of shit roam free in 2025.

>>76315366
Another issue is you can never be yourself with women. If you’re in a relationship you slowly compromise and self censor your words. You can’t express yourself freely. If you do be prepared for shit tests and power struggles.
I don't envy chads or relationships anymore. its like being a domesticated animal.

>>76315425
>bullshit
I went to church for 10 years, was involved in the weekly service for that time, and worked for the church at several points. This is just pure fantasy.

>women are pure as the driven snow
Modern Christian women want the fruits of Christianity (sexual exclusivity, communal praise, and idealized male attention) but they want it from an alpha man (high earner, physically fit, and well dressed) AND they want the benefits of feminism (sexual liberation, girlboss, woman as head of household) AND on top of that, they love the social shame aspect of religion as a means of covert sexual competition.

A man does not become an alpha, or a closer approximation therein, in the church. The church is a factory of domestication. Therefore, a Christian man will be like the dog chasing his own tale unless he is born the leader of the pack.

Thus we have women incentivized to be their worst and men prevented from being their best. The entire structure of civilization is broken, no amount of bible reading is going to fix it. You seem to be confused of the function of the church in society - social control. Men must perform, women must obey. The rest is fiction.

>good Christian girl
There is no one more entitled than the religious conservative woman. We had several cases of female infidelity in the church and several had porn addictions who even watched videos on the church's wifi.

i'm top 1 percentile incelligence in my turd world shit'ole country with a mensa tested iq of a mere 155
relationships and or love are but a distant dream to me since to the average normalnigger, especially a female one, i am a fuckin space alien in mannerisms, behaviour, in "aura"
i am completely normal, in formal settings i thrive, but as soon as i'm out in the hood, the cracks start to show and people eventually start distancing themselves from me
the sooner you realise that none of this shit is truly necessary, the better you will be off

>>76315523
News flash humans are flawed. News flash women and church leaders are human. Sherlock Holmes over here. I get it. Even Christian women suck sometimes and preists molest kids. Doesn’t make one bit of difference to the sacrifice that Jesus, God incarnate, made on the cross.

Not even entertaining your le sheeple go to church argument. Get behind me satan. God is real. The power that made you. Goodness, happiness, love. It’s all there for the taking, if not in church, surely elsewhere. If you truly seek him out he’s more than happy to meet you. Or don’t. Up to you. Have a good day.

>>76315458
Attraction is different from love and even good looking men eventually become boring

>>76315545
>Female hypergamy
>God is real
You're speaking out of both sides of your mouth.

You will either have to grapple with the issues that plague modern society or you will choose to continue to bury your head in the sand. Your solutions are that men simply need to man up, go to church, and the problem will be solved, to say nothing of the behaviors of women. Even if that were true, it isn't, without the entire society taking steps to disincentivize female hypergamy and incentivize male productivity, you're pissing into a rainstorm.

I never referred to religious people in dehumanizing terms such as "sheeple", you did, and your religious cliches and strawmen are little more than moral masturbation and display a deep level of spiritual and intellectual immaturity. The truth is many men have gone to the church seeking guidance and left when they've realize all they get in return is condemnation and shame, so it's unsurprising that they are leaving in droves.

>>76314972
>Submit to Jesus, and He will give you all you desire
No He won't.

>incelligence

>>76315054
Sexual love is selfish. Compassionate love is unselfish.

>>76315727
He has, does, and continues to do. You refuse to accept it, and proceed to wonder why you are miserable.

as CS Lewis said, the gates of hell are locked from the inside.

>>76315683
>You will either have to grapple with the issues that plague modern society
exactly. the issue is larger than religion or politics. it is human nature. female nature
>without the entire society taking steps to disincentivize female hypergamy and incentivize male productivity
impossible in a fallen world. religion tries to solve this, and largely has until about the 20th century
> The truth is many men have gone to the church seeking guidance and left when they've realize all they get in return is condemnation and shame, so it's unsurprising that they are leaving in droves.
we’re talking about straight men right?

>>76314884 (OP)
Add when the girl is hot enough: your sex drive/performance goes through the roof and you go from borderline ED to having sex 7+ days in a row 3+ times a day with no dick pills in mid 30s

Your senses are heightened, memory is more vivid, your world is literally lit up and otherwise mundane activities are a thrill with her

Imagine yearning for that feeling and never getting it back years later despite trying everything, haha

>>76315891
t. schizophrenic who talks to himself in his head and thinks its the son of god

Dumbfucks like you are why the US/West are slaves to Israel

I think it's interesting how life runs on the snowball effect.

>get a good spawn location
>good genes, good upbringing
>life gets better and better
>cute gf, hopeful future

>get a bad spawn location
>bad genes, bad upbringing
>life just gets worse and worse
>no gf, no hope

I try to be thankful for the life I've had so far.

>>76315017
jej

>>76315891
If somebody desired it they would accept it. You’re just making shit up to try and make your cult sound more appealing. Jesus isn’t a genie you fucking tard. Otherwise devout believers would get everything they want in life. You are the type to experience a negative event in life and then rationalize it by saying “all according to plan! Actually, my mom getting gangraped and murdered wasn’t EXACTLY what I thought I wanted, but it led to x, y, and z and made me stronger and blahblahblah”

You are an ideologue. Reality pretty much is what you make it, though. So if you have deluded yourself enough to believe the things you say I guess enjoy it. It’s kind of like those lonely incel japanese dudes who buy a body pillow and forge an imaginary relationship with their favorite anime waifu. Humans are capable of conjuring up many various types of powerful self hypnosis, yours isn’t even a particularly interesting one. It’s basically the honda civic of that world

>>76315901
>we’re talking about straight men right?
kek, yeah. The modern church is like telling men to swim during a tsunami. I can appreciate that it may stem the bleeding and is preferable to degeneracy and that some may escape Sodom but on the whole, it’s not giving great advice. The reason the redpill movement picked up is because the church wasn’t willing or able to step up to modern feminism except in Flanderized ways. There are some churches that are way more masculine than average but they’re outliers. And I resent the vague rudderless advice I see given from boomers because it’s the same advice I got that led me into the weeds.

>>76314972
>Submit to Jesus, and He will give you all you desire, and more.

So Jesus will give me endless money, a harem to impregnate at will, and a functionally endless supply of communists to torture and kill for my amusement? And more?

Because those are the things I desire. Last I checked, the Bible and basically every theologian I've chatted with says no, Jesus will not give me that.

>>76314884 (OP)
I wouldn't worry about it. The absolute best thing you can do for your long term health is to learn to be happy and content without relying on women. I'm in my 40s, I've had lots of sex with lots of women, I've had very long relationships, and if I could go back and give myself one single piece of advice as a child, it would be to never ever EVER get romantically involved with a woman for any reason. It is the number one thing that has caused me stress and misery in my life and the good times never outweigh the bad.

One, the stuff being described in that article is temporary. It's a study of college students, they're firmly in the honeymoon phase, not in long-term relationships. That initial surge of love and associated benefits doesn't last, even if the relationship does.

Two, you pay for it with the exact opposite of everything described in that pic when the relationship starts to fail. You will get worse grades, you will be unable to concentrate, you will lose your appetite and sleep poorly, your health will decline, so on and so on.

>>76314972
Can jesus get me a GeForce RTX 4090

>>76316003
Interesting take but I dont think it's quite that simple
Thirdie browns usually have spouses and pump out enough kids to replace everyone in the US three times over. Obviously they have their tradeoffs but still, they win in ways we don't

This is why we need to make anthro women
or monster girls
or nightmare waifus
or robot chicks
or ayy women
or some combination thereof
All men deserve a shot at happiness and companionship

>>76314937
>bpd whore
>still a kissless virgin
>best time of his life
bruh

>>76315366
this is what op's pic doesn't tell. Men get energy from women from their bodies, touching, hugging, the smell, the looks, the kisses. Women on the other hand are succubi and will either fuck you till you are dry to steal all the semen or will start shit to make you mad on purpose for stupid reasons and they get off to that you get frustrated, annoyed, screaming. Most of them doesn't know boundries, go from playful banter to
>I'd fuck your best friend in a nanosecond
social media, tv, netflix, tinder and big city lives fried their brains

>>76315530
use that i.q. to look and act as someone who fucks, so you can fuck if that's what you want.
to fuck women you have to talk to women and women fuck guys who are dumb, who are normies, who have "rizz"=iphone, nikes, broccoli hair, comes up to a hoe and starts chattinf her up. High iq individuals need alcohol or benzodiozapines to lower their logical functions and act more in present moment

>>76314957
>>76314999
turned 36 this week
still khv...

>>76315545
>Goodness, happiness, love.
God created evil too, don't leave that out.

get a waifu and imagine she says "I love you" to you everyday

>>76314937
>We never kissed or had sex (because my gut knew something was wrong) but those few moments
So you went on a date with her, you didn't date her

>>76314884 (OP)
>So... how do you achieve this?
Having an active social life. I know this scares people here, but that's how you meet (good) women.

>>76315366
>Why do they always have to argue about inconsequential shit?
Just tell her straight up you don't need to argue about bullshit. I've had "the talk" with many girls and it often results in a breakup down the line so get ready, but your life will improve.

>>76316314
>I wouldn't worry about it. The absolute best thing you can do for your long term health is to learn to be happy and content without relying on women.
Oh? I wonder what this individual has to say.
I've had lots of sex with lots of women, I've had >very long relationships

Every
single
time

>>76314884 (OP)
Wish I knew. 29y.o.khv lol...

However, i can tell you how NOT to achieve it. Unlike what most anons here seem to think, it's not about getting a girl. That part's reasonably easy if you're not too ugly, and know how to talk. Being 30bmi / 22%bf in highschool didn't prevent me from mid (~7-8/10)girls randomly sending me nudes (on ICQ - yes, I'm old af) or trying to get me to go on dates all throughout university.
However, with people you can't respect, it just feels disgusting. Even when I forced myself to reciprocate approaches, the moment a woman would come in for a hug, or try to hold hands, I'd feel like throwing up, bcs I knew full well that I would never be able to respect them. That resulted in a onstant game of meeting another woman, talking for a bit, getting her interested, then breaking off all contact because I'd start to feel like throwing up just from seeing her.
Unironically made me wonder if I was unconsciously gay or something. Though looking at some gay porn and being even more disgusted, while still enjoying lesbian porn, proved that wrong quickly.

So yeah, enjoy being single, and hope you'll find "the One(tm)" at some point.

>>76314972
based

>>76314963
Honestly sounds better because you can just imagine everything going well and project your image of an ideal gf onto her. Not good for relationship development but if you're just after the benefits, who cares? I wonder how long the effects last in either case.

>>76315054
Men love sympathetically, women reverently

>>76314963
>>76317061
>White Nights-maxxing to improve your gains