why are there so many incels on this board? I'm not even kidding you guys are worse than /pol/chuds. literally at least half of you lift because you resent women, the remaining are either gay or too demoralized by women you don't even try anymore and just quote some dumb stoicism socrates david goggins incel manifesto bullshit.

I want to like you guys but I think you are endangering and damaging our society. keep that dumb shit to yourself

cope

>>76320572 (OP)
It's quite simple really. What creates incels is excessive exposure to the internet, to the point where it has a greater influence on your perception of reality than the real world. 4chan in general attracts people that spend too much time on the internet, which is why there are so many incels on every board.

>>76320597
>>76320591
>>76320572 (OP)
WE'RE TROLLING THE WORLD. WE ARE THE NEW KNIGHTS TEMPLAR.

>>76320597
The definition of incel is involuntarily celibate.
The average man globally is an incel, by this very definition.
Let's not deny that things are pretty fucked (in terms of intersex relations) across the globe

>>76320617
most people are volcels desu

>>76320627
I think I see what you're saying.
Choosing hobbies and stuff over the drama

>>76320617
>The definition of incel is involuntarily celibate.
You often pull this card but you know very well it's complete bullshit. The meaning of words comes largely from convention, and when people talk about incels they don't mean guys that can't get laid, they mean followers of the incel philosophy, of which I can only assume you are one.

>>76320655
I'm still not sure what the incel philosophy is, it seems like it's just a new catchier word for misogynist

>>76320655
>they mean followers of the incel philosophy
I get your point.
I used to follow the philosophy, I don't anymore.
It's a toxic philosophy, no doubt.

>>76320597
the internet is the real world in 2025 you fucking retard, everyone is on the internet

>>76320664
>seems like it's just a new catchier word for misogynist
That's part of it, but there's more to it than that. There's a sort of biological communism to it, a reverse survival of the fittest, where those filtered by the challenges of the environment feel entitled to succeed anyway, and not by their own strength and actions, but to simply be handed success on a platter.

>>76320672
It really isn't, and if you spent more time in the real world you would know that. This is especially true when it comes to women who have mastered the art of the online persona.

>>76320572 (OP)
Do you not know how to read? Why the fuck WOULDN'T there be virgins on the fitness board? The fuck do normies need to improve about themselves?

>>76320645
No that's pure cope. If you have literally never turned down an offer for sex then you are not a volcel.

>>76320686
it's the opposite you utter imbecile. people, especially women have personas for the "real world" while the true colors come out online.

>>76320704
>people, especially women have personas for the "real world"
While this is true for everyone the online persona is much more curated. You decide what to put on the internet. You can alter it in whatever way you like. You can delete your regrets and only put your best side on display. You can't do this in real life, because you're not always in control, you're not always at your best, and you can't go back in time.

>>76320597
>What creates incels is excessive exposure to the internet
You're right.
I have some incel beliefs honestly and it comes from overexposure to the internet.

>>76320730
I got them as well at one point when I was spending far too much time on the internet, but had enough real world experience to see something was happening and why.

>>76320572 (OP)
2/3 of all young men aren't getting any pussy whatsoever, this is the norm now.

>>76320672
>everyone is on the internet
Sure, but not everyone is on it for 18 hours a day like you freaks.
If you think that doesn't cloud your perceptions of things, you're out of your minds.

>>76320687
>normies don't exercise because uh they just don't ok!
Truly next level cope. I'm tired of you nerds, weirdos and virgins trying to infiltrate and subvert fitness. In the good old days, the gym was the domain of normies and athletic chads only if anything.
It's the exact inverse of what you guys always complain about with normies infiltrating "nerd culture".

>>76320572 (OP)
That's because most incels here don't lift and are only using this board for dopamine thinking that they're bettering themselves when they're doing nothing

>>76320911
normalfags doomscroll consistently for hours on end

>>76320681
basically they think they are entitled to pussy no matter how undesirable they are? That's really lame

>>76320911
what are you talking about? most people, "standard" people probably consume as much if not more social media than the average /fit/ poster, i dont even have tiktok or instagram. that extravert always busy with some hobby enjoying life archetype is not the standard anymore, if it ever was, it's a rare type of person. most people are terminally online, zoomers or boomers, and they consume brainrot that the average fitizen can't even fathom, you have to remember that people even on the same social media platform are "segregated" from each other through algorithms, and most people don't consume the cool quirky roman history trivia content, they consume complete brainrot.

>>76320970
That's the jist of it, yes. And it's not just that they feel entitled to just any pussy, oh no, that won't do, they want top shelf, prime pussy. It's the delusion that really gets me. They more often than not have no redeeming qualities whatsoever, but somehow feel entitled to a 10/10 woman.

>>76320572 (OP)
I am not anti-improoooovement and I do lift, I just hate simps with a passion.

>>76320981
>they want top shelf, prime pussy
you are arguing with ghosts, almost no young man is this way, including those that normgroids would label "incels"

>>76320983
If I could kill all niggers, jews, whores, or simps with a push of a button, it would push the simp button twice.

>>76320681
>biological communism
>the le nechural selection of the human concrete jungle completely isolated from all the struggles of life which cause evolutionary pressure
i love it when lukewarm 90 IQ retards on this board start spewing their broscience biology knowledge

>>76320964
>>76320980
>most people, "standard" people probably consume as much if not more social media than the average /fit/ poster,
And yet, they still go on to lead more or less healthy normal lives. They're not affected by the rot to the same extent as you terminally online retards who have no frame of reference to compare things to.
It's not normal guys who go into a spiral of depression and hopelessness because they see some bitchy woman post bad things about men on twitter. It's you incels here, because things like that are the only "interaction" with women you have.

>>76320981
>They more often than not have no redeeming qualities whatsoever, but somehow feel entitled to a 10/10 woman.
And not only that, they'll then turn around and cry about "hypergamy" from women all in the same breath. Some of the least self-aware people on the planet.

>>76320572 (OP)
>damaging our society
How? And whose society is it? Have you considered that "this society" might be wronging men? The tone of your post is disparaging, unempathic and betrays that you sent to assign blame without understanding, so I'm convinced you're a woman

>>76321001
>And yet, they still go on to lead more or less healthy normal lives.

im convinced you are the most "terminally online" clueless person in this thread lmao. you either have never been in a relationship or have been played like a fiddle every time and are just too clueless to realize.

>>76320995
And what struggles of life do you think you're magically isolated from when the jungle is made of concrete and not trees? All the same group dynamics and factors of natural selection are still operating.
That anon had it exactly right and you're seething hard about it.

>>76321001
>And yet, they still [headcanon]
Like 5% of the population lead worthwhile lives, you are deluded beyond belief.

>>76320995
Evolutionary pressure very briefly explained are environmental factors which have an impact on the reproduction and survival of a population. While these pressures are often thought of in terms of access to food among other things, it is important to remember that other than our physical environment, we also have a social environment which can exert similar evolutionary pressure.
This evolutionary pressure from the social environment should be quite obvious in the context of incels. It is not because you are unable to provide food and shelter that you cannot reproduce, it is because you fail to overcome the challenges and demands of the social environment.
I understand abstract thought isn't your strong side, but I hope this explanation helps.

>>76321009
That's nice anon, you can be "convinced" of whatever you want but that still won't make you anywhere even close to reality.

>>76320693
>If you have literally never turned down an offer for sex then you are not a volcel.
Most anons here including this one don't understand that status quo can change in a day. I used to turn down sex when i was in the range of 27-30 and ever since i turned 32 i became an incel. My last gf was four months ago but she used me for her own benefit (she wanted to marry me cause she is 30), and before her i was on a dryspell for a year or two. Many fall off after 30, i'm an incel now, i haven't had sex since december 2024

>>76320572 (OP)
the impact of the new world is still ongoing, and not everyone has adjusted. So there's many disenfranchised men like me who exist.
Wait 20 years for a new generation of men who have been socialized for the current world, and you won't see any more bitter posting.

>>76321013
>duuuh but the evolutionary pressure you are subjected to when you don't have to forage for food, avoid natural predators and be exposed to the elements are the exact same as le getting rejected on tinder

>>76321017
divorce stats are the reality, body counts before "settling down" for cucks like you is the reality, your pink glasses bullshit isn't reality you dishonest worm.

>>76321029
>you dishonest worm.
Interesting word choice when your entire argument hinges on pretending I'm something I'm not anon.

>>76320627
Most people are indians

>>76320572 (OP)
nobody gives a shit who you like retard
neck it

A lot of "their beliefs come from internet exposure" and not "their beliefs are wrong because X/Y/Z".
Stop centering fitness on women, so that guys like that can't pollute the area.

Treat fitness like a discipline deserving of respect.

>>76321019
>My last gf was four months ago
literally stop being a bitch, and pull up your bootstraps, you're not us.
I haven't known any affection my entire life.

Women are not worth it imo. I met this girl at the Church 6 months ago

I made her:
>throw her jeans away and only wear dresses
>got her from 0 to 5 eggs a day
>Started eating steaks
>Quit processed bread and eats only sourdough
>Stopped hanging out with female friends
>obedient to everything
>cooked for me during lent
>walks 8k steps per day
>glute workouts
>sexy skirts
>told me she is in another dimension when she is with me
>bible readings

She is a whole other person but i had to break up because she wasn't a virgin andicouldn'tcope walking the church stairs. Went to that same church after 2 months of isolation and prayer and i felt uneasy from all those memories with her there

>>76321001
I'm not the dude you responded to, but I am the guy who posted this >>76320730
My reference point irl has been pretty pathological, so the incel philosophy seemed like the real world to me. My descent into the online world was a coping mechanism for the pathological social atmosphere of my environment.
I am the exception, not the rule.

>>76321039
>t. seething incel

>>76321024
In your case, yes, since it's the same end result for you...your genes are not passed on (which is a good thing). You may as well have starved or been eaten by a tiger instead.
Read what this anon wrote >>76321015, which you conveniently pretended you didn't see. He's saying the exact same thing I am only he bothered to actually explain it in more detail to you. (he shouldn't have btw)

>>76321041
>you're not us
What i'm saying it's that i am (you). You probably had chances with mid 6/10 girls and you threw it away or didn't get the signals. Also i wasn't dating stacies but normal looking women. Now i get some mires here and there but most women IGNORE me, I am the incel now

>>76321015
>you failed to meet the requirements of the environment which requires none
the requirements of a sexually inter-selective species are 99% of the time absolutely detrimental to the survival of the species affected
>>76321046
you are a clueless retard

>>76321042
congrats you have more self-respect than 90% of the male population

>>76320597
why would young men retreat into "incel communities" on the internet if their real world was already providing them fulfilling intimate relationships with women?

>>76321052
What you're experiencing is being a normal man, stop trying to fit into something you're not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmtoavnKWtY

>>76321053
>the requirements of a sexually inter-selective species are 99% of the time absolutely detrimental to the survival of the species affected
Perhaps, I won't pretend to know anything about it. But the fact of the matter is you're getting filtered.
>>76321055
>why would young men retreat into "incel communities" on the internet if their real world was already providing them fulfilling intimate relationships with women?
It is the lack of a social life that is the root of the problem. You don't go outside, you don't meet friends or make new ones, you don't partake in social activities. Incels typically have no real life community to which they belong. They're terminally online and eventually they happen to stumble upon the incel community where they do get a sense of belonging. You see the same thing with trannies and similar types.
Incels refuse to understand that the foundation required to meet a woman at all is an active, real world social life.

If you're not celibate, i don't respect you, at least spiritually, if not physically.
If you're slamming and dipping on random hoes that's cool, so long as it doesn't get to your head, but if you're a hubby and have girlfriends you are worthless, docile niggercattle that got completely acclimated to an inherently sick and insane society.
If you use "incel" as an insult, you are an obsequious, gynocentric rat. Take your female shaming tactics and shove them up your ass.

>>76321076
Cope/cry harder

>>76321044
>t. thinks strangers on the internet care about his opinions of them
your unwarranted self-importance is the reason you rely on the internet to socialize

>you are getting le filtered
you are battling a preconceived notion in your head, you know nothing of the faceless randoms you are belittling, but it is apparent to all that you are a retard

>>76321055
>if their real world was already providing them fulfilling intimate relationships with women?
And this really does illustrate what I was saying at the start of the thread:
>>76320681
>There's a sort of biological communism to it, a reverse survival of the fittest, where those filtered by the challenges of the environment feel entitled to succeed anyway, and not by their own strength and actions, but to simply be handed success on a platter.
From your point of view your own agency isn't even a factor to consider, you want to be PROVIDED with a fulfilling relationship. You're a completely passive actor in your own world, you can't make things happen for yourself, you can only be given what you want.
And that's why you're an incel. I'm not saying this to be mean, I hope it's helpful.

>>76321086
Alright, why don't you go on ahead and explain to me why incels are incels and why they won't breed?

haha wow, what a cool thread
/fit/ness everyone?

Yet another slide thread.
Don't know if you guys realize, but demoralization is a tactic of intrasexual competition. Its easy to imagine who is behind the OP's post.
Keep lifting anons and don't let some chums get you down.
You're strong, you're worthy and you're grand. Soon you will be even grander, not that I need to remind you.

>yeah but why do boogeymen X
i;m done with engaging with chatbots

>>76320572 (OP)
Nigga tf you ranting about, I lift because I like it, simple as.

>>76321118
because the cultures and societies that created civilization have been subverted into an unrecognizable state, with few to none of their institutions or women left in a healthy, functioning state for the modern generation.

>>76321141
I would mostly agree with this, but I wouldn't say men are in much better shape than women today.

>>76320617
People like OP (unironically incels in denial themselves) think they can co-opt the word to mean something like an angry male. Part of this is women doing it to shame any man they don't like, and the other part is effeminate beta male types who can't fit in with typical male sexist banter and so try to shame it as "incel behaviour".

It's to the point where if someone uses the word, anything they say should be ignored. Same with words like "nazi" or "racist". They are just buzzwords to make midwits feel good.

>>76321155
Men are more well-equipped to cope, respond, or adapt to things in general and potentially improve themselves and their situations (this is why there are a lot of "incels" in self-improvement and lifting communities, whereas the female counterpart is "acceptance" type movements demanding to normalize laziness and inferiority rather than improvement), but I would agree that they're no better off than women right now. But men didn't cause this, or rather, they didn't actively cause it but in part allowed it to happen via inaction; women, manipulated by foreign subversives, have destroyed civilizational institutions and reversed the flow of (male-created) opportunity and productivity to exclusively benefit women instead of men/society as a whole, but it hasn't made anyone happier or society better, in fact it's tanked birth rates, made women far more miserable than they've ever been, and steered society into a downward spiral.

You can't be an incel if you accept the fact that you're going to be a virgin for life.

>>76320572 (OP)


I only noticed incels here and on /r9k/. Most of the rest of them on other boards seem to keep that info to themselves and just talk about the hobby

anybody here experiencing penis atrophy?

My penis has shrunk the past year.

>>76320617
You only think things are fucked around the globe because you sit on the internet all day consuming media telling you it is.

Meanwhile people are out there living their best life.

>>76321290
You're probably high bf. I don't have that, my dick has always been average but my libido/sensitivity has gone down alot.

>>76320572 (OP)
Tits or gtfo

>>76320801
So 1/3 of these men are slaying the 80% of slags. Sadge.

>>76320981
Yes, brother. I, too, abhor the patriarchal norm wherein men feel entitled to sex that they neither deserve nor earn.
##Feminism

I'm laughing so hard at the incels in this thread LMAO losers you seethe and write so much just cuz women won't fuck you? even my 13yo nephew got laid LOL

>>76320655
No this is pure bullshit cope, the virginity part of it is essential to the meaning of the word else it would hold no weight as an insult
How is it in any way insulting to call a misogynist a misogynist?

>>76321460
dude, you're not smart, and you sound stupid

>>76321042
If you believe in God you're genuinely retarded. If you were born in the middle east you'd be Muslim because you lack critical reasoning skills. The funniest part about Christianity to me is the fact that it's been do basterdized your God based on your own belief system would genuinely hate you more than anyone else

>>76321460
You're an example of how people with convenient, typical, unexamined lives, have nothing to offer people in pain. You'd rather be cruel or offer cruelty masked in inane advice.

>>76320572 (OP)
The use of incel as an insult is an indication that you are a worthless gynocentric faggot. Your entire worldview values men based on how well they can please women. Men don't exist to please women. The strong don't exist to serve the weak. You say we endanger this society? Good. This society is a disgusting perversion of the laws of nature where the strong are subjugated by a tyranny of the weak. All you will do in response is name call and try to imply that I'm a heckin weirdo, but that's all irrelevant impotent flailing.
The irony of this all is that your views make you come across as incredibly desperate and needy, which is very unattractive to women, all because you've tied your self-worth to how women perceive you. This will ultimately lead to a self destructive spiral, where you notice that women are repulsed by you and in turn become even more desperate to please, and even more unattractive to women. Abandon your gynocentric worldview which was instilled into you from birth by the feminist harpies that run the public education system, break out from your chains that only seek to ruin you and become a free man.

>>76321363
>youre probably high bf
im not at all

My situation is at 14:10 of this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHjJT9BXEUw

>>76321384
Explain why you should get anything you haven't earned or deserve.

>>76321549
>an insult
See that's the thing, you think of it merely as an insult, but that's not what it is. And even as an insult the virgin aspect is only a small part of it.