How to fix them?
Or more importantly why do i have them?
I suspect its because of staring at the screens too much. Im a programmer so i stare at the screen for work. I also stare at my phone for hours every day.
Or is it because i go to sleep too late? I fall asleep usually around midnight or 1 am.

Hyraulic Acid and lots of sleep
Cut out all screens 1 hour before bed
Sleep 8+ hours

>>76321707
I sleep for like 9-10 hours every day so thats not the issue. I think the issue is i fall asleep too late(12am- 1am)
No screen before bed is a good idea

>>76321704 (OP)
Are you talking about pigmentation or puffiness?

>>76321722
It's not about how long you sleep, it's about how well you sleep
Only proper REM sleep matters
Cut out the screens, seriously

I’ve had them my whole life. Nothing I’ve tried works. I’ve used ice, hydrowhateverthefuck acid, and skim milk. Ice seems to work best but only for like 20 minutes then they’re back

>>76321704 (OP)
Man inwish I had an Xbox summer would definitely be lit then
I miss you, old friend

Try vitamin C, E, coq10, hyaluronic acid, face cream, maybe creatine, vitamin a (carrots). It will boost hydration and collagen. more important cut anything bad like staying up late, bad diet. Jog or sprint occasionally to get blood flowing. There may be some herbal extracts or teas at the store that rejuvenate elastin or help skin.

>>76321704 (OP)
>How to fix them?
Shades , designer shades if you really insist but by your post just shades will do...
>Or more importantly why do i have them?
Poor sleep imo... Im not a programming or something like that but I do stare at screen for hours for other reasons ....my guess is good sleep , less screen time , no alcohol drugs... but basically sleep or rest , just stare at your ceiling and do nothing...

>>76321707
>>76322058
at this point I would really appreciate femanons advice with their creams and shit for their wine eyes lmao

>>76322084
I use Avene hyaluron activ b3 triple action eye cream in the morning and Neutrogena retinol boost eye cream in the evening. It's alright, I guess, feels good, no irritation. Don't expect to see the results in a matter of days, it can take the whole container before you see any difference. You might want to ask around on /fa/.

>>76321704 (OP)
less stress and more rest over a long period of time, also, don't use bright screens in the dark

>>76321704 (OP)
>yooo this summer's gonna be lit
Go outside it is that easy breath the fresh air, fight some bugs, nut check your bros, squeeze a girl's titty, get drunk in the park, fight some homeless, all good fun. All you need to do is go outside into the forest where no one is around. Nothing bad ever happens in the woods. Those scary stories of the deep forest are to keep out faggots leaving only the best boys to enjoy the wonders of the deep forest. Come.

>>76321704 (OP)
Go keto.

>>76321722
>I sleep for like 9-10 hours every day
You have allergies, UARS or sleep apnea(mild)

If they’re not allergies, sleep deprivation, or sleep apnea, they’re probably a sign of disease, facial deformity, or genetics.

>>76321704 (OP)
Sleep, hydration, less carbs, sunlight.

>>76322235
t. sentient tick / and or murder hobo

A good tan makes them less noticeable for me

>>76322499
>allergies
no proof these exist btw

>>76321704 (OP)
Splash your face with cold water twice a day.

>>76323643
I've tried tanning several times, but my face doesn't tan anywhere near as much as my body.

>>76321704 (OP)
I love how /fit/ stayed the same over the past 15 years. Back then, the stuff posted here was semi-revolutionary, compared to the rest of the internet. Nowadays, the world has moved on and fast, while /fit/, its just a handful of same old, cope-related posts about useless supps and mild banter. OP, the problem you have is related to aging. Genes play a role in this, but to try and actually fix the problem, you need to do fat grafts. You need to fill out the space there thats been growing because of you getting older. Additionally, you need to plant there some tissue that is yours, that will provide some additional bloodstream to your skin, that is getting saggy and thin. As a cheaper alternative you could go for hydroxyapatite or hyaluronic acid fillers, and start doing retinols with dermarolling. For the love of god, dont waste $ on tens of useless supps, that are most likely filled with sawdust. People ITT are fucking retards (so is the rest of /fit/, apart from fraud and other generals)

>>76324795
Im not that old, im 30 and ive been to a hangout with my buddy whos same age as me and has a stressful job and hes got zero bags under eyes. Im pretty sure its for the reasons ive listed in the op

>>76325445
doesnt matter. I see hundreds of programmers everyday, and they have a regular variance like the rest of the population. What's important, is that your skin for whatever reason got thinner, and your bones and tissues of your face got thinner as well. People differ enough so that at 30 some may or may not exhibit visible signs of aging. But we all age, and some beauty salons deal with the heavy lifting jobs of augmenting your face structure and soft tissue. If you want to get it fixed, you have to find such a salon, that is not overly expensive, yet safe enough. Otherwise you will just keep having this look. No supplement or lifestyle change will fix it.

>>76321740
this is what lots of people dont get. If its pigmentation, just use sunscreen

>>76325473
No, i wont go to the beauty salon for something like that. I wont go to the beauty salon for any reason, really.
Ill try the no screen before bed approach and earlier going to sleep and if that doesnt work idc

>>76325554
thats a solution as well. It all comes down to personal resolution. Personally I got interested with the topic, and since then Ive realized that some things cant be solved with "just lift", especially once you hit 30. Im 34 for reference

>>76325554
not trying to doompill you brother, but i've fixed my sleep, fixed my diet, and the bags under my eyes (just pigmentation) never go away. i'm 35. i suspect it's salt intake and meat intake, but i'm not going to experiment with veganism to make it go away. either that or i have undiagnosed sleep apnea, but this is unlikely since my phone doesn't detect any sounds when i sleep (it does detect coughing if i'm sick, or if i am drunk and sleeping - so i know it works)

>>76325554
>No, i wont go to the beauty salon for something like that. I wont go to the beauty salon for any reason, really.
what are your hank hill?

>>76325645
Brother i dunno if i have sleep apnea, i might since im overweight but i very rarely wake up in the middle of the night. Im losing weight though, i lost 20lbs already and im at 28% bf so its not that bad but i still need to lose 40lbs to be around normal weight and to not be fat

>>76325645
please read my post, I do some effortposting from time to time and I dont want it go to waste

how do you know if you have poor sleep quality?

I have no one to watch me when I sleep

>>76321722
No micros no red meat?

>>76325868
how am i supposed to know which one is yours?

>>76321704 (OP)
Some people have genetically thinner skin under their eyes. If you had them since little it's probably this.

>>76326094
the one about fat grafts

>>76321704 (OP)
If you have bags under your eyes you have semi-serious chemical depression. The only way to get rid of them is to suffer through the withdrawals or find an appropriately exciting thing to do to replace what you'd get from doom-scrolling and shitposting (impossible)

>>76327545
so having a gf would fix my eye bags?

>>76327558
>having a girlfriend will cure my depression
LOL, you kids on here

>>76321704 (OP)
For me it's lacking under eye area support. I tried everything

>>76322499
Nta but how do I treat this?

10+ hours in bed still feel fucking awful in the morning. Wake up A TON of times every night. It's getting so fucking hard anons...

>>76321704 (OP)
>Or more importantly why do i have them?
I'll tell you what my doctor told me: LOL genetics, deal with it.