Is overtraining real? Is it possible if you're on gear? Does sleep fix/worsen it? I have friends who insist it's a real thing, and I have others who insist it isnt. What the fuck is overtraining?

Yeah but if you havnt been doing 6 day a week ppl for several months straight dont worry about it

>>76330193 (OP)
No such thing as overtraining in weightlifting in a single session since muscle failure will always lead your body to sit the fuck down to recueprate energy
Training 8 times a week with high volume doing two activities (ex martial arts + weightlifting in the same day 6 days a week) without roids is overtraining, going on a 4km run every morning then doing calisthenics in the evening isnt
The average gym goer will never overtrain in their life because they're fucking lazy

>>76330222
>>76330211
so 6d/w ppl is okay? what about 5d/w full body?

>>76330301
I havnt gotten into full body much yet but i think anons say 3 day is goated.
I do a push legs pull routine i created, but to be honest i usually feel stronger on 4 or 5 day weeks back to back. I will just skip legs or move a day around.

>>76330301
Why would you ever do full body as a non-olympic lifter who has specific needs or bodybuilder doing maintenance 2 weeks before competition ? Are you that short on time ?
Just do PPL 5 times a week and focus on compounds

>>76330301
But i would say that as a beginner, you could do ppl 6 days a week for several months before burn out if eating and sleeping properly. It's supposed to be optimal.

Overtraining isn't a thing in the sense that you'll do something and your whole body will be 'overtrained'. If you pull your hamstring because you tried sprinting too fast or too hard when already in a fatigued state, that's a sign that you overtrained your hamstring and now it's injured. If you feel like your back is sore and your whole body is achy and you're not really able to snap to an exercise correctly, that could be sign of overtraining your nervous system and the motor units associated with the dominant muscle group.

All overtraining is the over stimulation of an under adapted organism or an otherwise over fatigued organism. If you don't want to 'overtrain'. Don't train something that isn't ready yet with something that you want to do. You can still train and train with intent, just vary your exercise selection for the day.

>>76330346
>Are you that short on time ?
I thought the new meme was that volume = more better

>>76330193 (OP)
If the body has a limit, it means that you can overwork it by definition