I started needing porn to get a boner, and I was almost always horny because working out just makes you so. One day I just felt disgusted with myself and quit porn entirely. I still jerk off otherwise my balks will ache, it takes some work getting a hard on but I come pretty quick when I get one.

>>76330759 (OP)
date a girl

>>76330759 (OP)
sex your wife

>>76330785
Yeah I knew I was far gone when I had
to open up a tab on my iPhone for my subscribed OnlyFans page of Sophie Rain that I pay $40 a month for and laid it on top of my girlfriend’s cheeks while hitting her doggy style just to get hard

>>76330797
Why is your gf obese?

>>76330759 (OP)
Why would i stop jerking off?

>>76330792
Im dating and sometimes i jerk off though she is into free use

>>76330807
She’s not fat just big boned

>>76330814
no, that's just your penis

>>76330813
get a hotter gf you guys date mid women and are surprised you can’t stop gooning to porn of better looking women. dumbass

>>76330818
I find that the hotter a woman is, the less power i have in the relationship. The girl im dating is pretty but chubby. She gets more excited than skinnier girls i dated making her less tight which is the problem.

>>76330759 (OP)
train harder and then you won't have energy to jerk off.

>>76330759 (OP)
when i took drugs and jerked off for 10 hours or more watching filthiest pornography known to man... i did this 10 times in span of 6 months and then i was like woah dude this has to stop

>>76330861
i think after my 365th time of fapping to sissy hypnosis porn did this realization come

>>76330835
>I find that the hotter a woman is, the less power i have in the relationship.
I've also noticed that.
I think they've been spoiled by society because they're hot so they're used to getting their way.

dryness, irritation and pain

>>76330759 (OP)
i can do it later

>>76330870
no you’re just a weak faggot afraid she’d leave you if you don’t simp 24/7

>>76330759 (OP)
lop off your jorking hand with a butcher knife or hatchet
sinple

>>76330876
This, realize how pointless it is. Cum now, cum later, you'll never be satisfied unless you renounce desire. A good way to break free is to watch videos of animals, particularly apes, swinging from trees and being chimps and shit, and you'll look at a woman and be more likely to see her for the animal she is and your instincts for the mindless reproductive drive that dogs also have when they hump a human leg. Read Schopenhauer too. The best way to start is by stopping porn entirely

Sadly, fictional characters.
I ask "would my aspirational character be jerking off like this?" and the answer is always no.
It worked for easily getting out of the fapping loop, and works most of the time for other weaknesses (e.g., junk food cravings, too tired for the gym).

>>76330921
how do i get off it when i found the best site for rape porn?

>>76330870
I find that reguardless of sex, whoever 8s the least happy and or has the most options holds the most power. Never witnessed or been in an actual 50/50 relationship. It's human nature.

>>76330759 (OP)
Why would you want to stop?

I have sex with my gf like 3 times a week and still coom twice a day.

>>76330931
You just need to get through the first few weeks of no porn, then you will no longer need it. Good ways to stay off are by autisitically setting blockers on every browser and giving passwords to your friends, making bets with real money with your friends, and keeping busy. Also maybe you should think about why you like rape porn. I imagine there may be some frustration with women there, that you got get over, but if not, just follow the usual protocol, I admit rap

>>76330942
Pic related

>>76330946
sports gambling and drinking everyday and talking to a new girl has helped. thanks man

>>76330835
you know pretty women want to be abused and degraded right? this is because one they are more womanly so by default they are more submissive and two every man thinks they are so pretty so they worship them.

>>76331032
>you know pretty women want to be abused and degraded right?
Yes, though not a psychologically sound one.

>>76330965
Glad to hear that, but drinking maybe could be switched for something better

>>76331032
i came here with my dick in my hand. don’t make me leave here with my foot in your ass be cool

>>76331032
And what is your point? She will still move on to fuck other dudes if she's that hot unless you sre committing actual abuse and hokding her hostage.

>>76331041
>psychologically sound
That's rare

>>76331041
>not a psychologically sound one
kek good one fren

>>76331032
i believed this to be true until i caught a sexual assault charge. went from being a successful lawyer to disbarred

>>76331046
Women are different than men in that quantity of partners will never be a problem for them. It's about quality. A hot woman obviously knows that she can get a line of dick in 5 minutes but the moment she is hooked on a man that ticks off her psychological desires (which usually means treating her like shit) is going to be the only one she desires

>>76331064
yes that is the very fine line and why women are not worth it, but the law is not the truth and the fact remains

>>76331052
Yeah most people seem to display some range of trauma and or neurosis imo

>>76331075
It's honestly so weird how the girls (only a couple) that have been obsessed with me are usually the ones I don't pay attention to or activley dislike. I was literally ignoring one of them who texted me and she only liked me more. And I was ignoring because she was retarded and gross. Strange how me treating her like she was annoying made her like me more

>>76331092
brother, wait til you find out ignoring women irl makes you actually attract them more

>>76331092
We all want what we dont have

>>76330949
Jealous

>>76330792
>>76330796

These come with the trade off of losing your money and your gains, so be careful. The only thing that helps with the motivation to stop jerking off is to jerk off. Im not being cute here, Im just being honest. You might as well be asking how do you get the motivation to stop eating, or sleeping, or taking a piss. They're the all the most basic of basic needs

Idle hands are the dclecils playground, thus if you are busy you wont goon

>>76330931
Swauce?

>>76330759 (OP)
I think at some point, it just lost it's appeal, like food you initially really enjoyed but you're now sick of it.

It's always there, I can search whatever I want within 5 seconds, but it's all meh? I don't know.

Sex and head is always preferred now.

>>76330931
by giving me the link for safe keeping anon, ill help you

>>76330921
>Read Schopenhauer too.
where do i start

>>76330759 (OP)
When I don't jack off for a day or two I sleep better and wake up with a way harder dick than if I've beat off recently, and that makes me feel macho as hell. I know if I stumble on random pussy any time soon, I'll have an easier time getting hard, especially if it's a woman who isn't exactly my type

>>76330923
unfortunately my aspirational character is the dude from postal

>>76330759 (OP)
if you don't have the willpower to just say no to yourself for 3-5 days before caving in, then you should probably work on it

you learn this by learning how to tell yourself no, but it's a bit difficult to have that level of control until you can manage to withhold your seed for at least that long. work your way up from 2 days at a time, nut once, then go to sleep

just jerk off then you wont want to jerk off for the resy of the day thats how virginity works u wake up a virgin every day u know

I went a couple years without cranking it to porn. But recently started looking at it again. Unsure why. But it's bothering me.
I wanna get back on the wagon again as I felt better and it made me hate wheres less.

>>76330759 (OP)
Do things with your life. You goon when you're bored and lonely.

>>76332007
The main work of his The World as Will and Representation, but passages from that can be a bit confusing if you are not familiar with him. His essay on the metaphysics of love is a good place to start: https://pryazhnikov.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/mataphysics_of_love_eng.pdf

I will also attach some passages from the World as Will that give you a good overview of what he thinks

>>76330759 (OP)
it's easy. the glowponies are always watching you. not just 'watching what you're watching' but actually watching you masturbate. now try to stay hard knowing that. this country is so fucked up now i can't even believe it. it didn't used to be like this.

you can blame george bush 1.

>>76332007
>>76332007 #
The main work of his The World as Will and Representation, but passages from that can be a bit confusing if you are not familiar with him. His essay on the metaphysics of love is a good place to start: https://pryazhnikov.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/mataphysics_of_love_eng.pdf

I will also attach some passages from the World as Will that give you a good overview of what he thinks

>>76332007

>>76332007
2

>>76332007
3

>>76332113
So choose a better aspiration.

>>76330759 (OP)
its simple just have regular sex , thats it no bullshit

>>76330867
Then you watch reverse sissy hypno and halfway through it the video calls you a loser and says you’ll always be a sissy

>>76333464
Why is there no hypno porn of other genres? I want to be brainwashed by gurls.

>>76330861
i just did 12 continuous hours of stim fapping last week. i couldnt even believe one could non stop fap so long. i had maxxed the AC on cold and still was sweating like a pig. fucking filthy

>>76330759 (OP)
I jerk off, but I don't watch porn. And after a while, I just started jerking off less naturally. When you watch no porn, you feel less of a need to jerk off. Just drop the porn, don't be retarded.

Think about it, masturbating to other people having sex is literally pajeet life.

>>76330759 (OP)
Usually by cumming

>be me
>23 year old virgin
>have been jerking off ever since I was 15 or 16

What I'm really worried about is, if someone how I manage to get laid, my death grip will completely ruin the experience for both of us.

If there was a chance I was actually going to get laid in the future, should I just quit porn cold turkey in the weeks leading up to it?

>>76330792
>>76330796
Im incel how do I do that
>>76330818
Is pic supposed to be a “hotter” girl?
She’s like a 6 at best and she’s brown which makes her lose a point

>>76330759 (OP)
i laugh every time some geek tells me about how they are describing a cuck fantasy when talkin about porn. as if that is the only fantasy they can put themselves in. might as well fantasize yourself losing in every situation possible lmao

>>76330879
This, so pathetic they lack any self respect

>>76330921
>renounce desire
No thanks I'm okay with not psychologically sterilizing myself. You can simply just say "no" without associating the basic reproductive instinct with lower life forms.
Or maybe this kind of advice is actually useful in a way, lowering the probability of subhumans from reproducing

Jerking off is not what is stopping you from getting laid.

>>76334104
I think we largely agree anon. You say 'no' to porn because you do recognize that the instinct that leads you to it is worthless, if you followed it you would just be an animal.

>>76333813
yes man, stop looking at porn or any nudity right now. i am your age, been jacking it since like 10, and both times i had sex it was a bad experience (one time couldnt finish, second time couldnt stay hard). it is difficult but should be easier for you since you started a bit later, you dont need porn or to masturbate at all, after 90 days is apparently where your brain rewires so make that your goal

I confessed to a priest and now if I jerk off I have to confess again and I don't want to look like some weak willed gooner in front of a priest. Many months without masturbation now.

>>76334120
It's what stopped me.

>see hot chicks
>get aroused
>jerk off

vs
>see hot chicks
>get aroused
>damn I must make myself more presentable

>>76333813
I started when I was 10/11 and didn't meet my GF until I was 26/27. You are absolutely not too far gone, but I think you should stop regardless of if you think you might get laid in the near future or not. You clearly know it's an issue.

>>76330759 (OP)
>how do you guys get the motivation to stop jerking off

I developed extreme jealousy of people in porn, and porn reminded me of my lack of IRL dating success.
These emotions reached an extreme, and so I stopped. I also saw a bunch of unattractive prostitutes, because I'm a cheapskate, and that furthered my disgust with myself.

>>76330949
Dios mio

>>76333824

Porn has destroyed your brain.

>>76330759 (OP)
My relentless disgust of sodomites and whores.

>>76330759 (OP)
It's a pure waste of time and it doesn't even give you a gauge of how horny you actually are, or any information about what you want or fantasize about. Could be you just see images on a screen and then mechanically you are led to orgasm. Like a trained monkey. And those images on the screen darken the intellect, they make you dumber, they reduce your ability to fantasize or imagine anything at all. They probably slow your reaction time and reduce your ability to socialize without being a creep.

ESPECIALLY with "gooning," or "edging," it's what you naturally do in order to recompensate yourself for your ability to fantasize being taken away. You try and "choose" between all of the videos funneled to you through an aggregate. Eventually you're just going to be a chronic porn consumer without even the need to touch your dick in the first place. The porn you watch is going to make less and less sense as it gets further divorced away from reality, yet at the same time you believe that it's your "taste," even though you know that it's impossible.

Once this "porn taste" metastasizes into a "sexual identity," you're fucked, no pun intended. You are spiritually a tranny. A furry. Whatever, you're a deviantart user who is obsessed with inflating cartoon characters. You've allowed yourself to be led and turned into something that doesn't even exist, and thus you stay trapped in your own imagination forever. The more nonsensical it is, the less likely you will have a normal and affluent life.

This instinct, to find something that catches your eye, has been spent and spent so much to the point that your eye is simply trained to only find it in porn. SPECIFIC porn if you're a gooner. When it matters, when a certain girl has beautiful legs, or smiles and shows a dimple, or laughs, hums, or you simply like the way her eyes catch light --- you'll be asleep at the wheel. You've habituated to looking for nipples, dickheads, gyrations, assholes, gore, et cetera.

>>76330759 (OP)
depression, falling deep in love with someone I can't be with, not wanting superficial lust be my defining thing. I've somehow found myself not even jerking off for upwards to a month then realizing I need to cause I see it as a health thing now so my prostate doesn't get fucked up when I'm old

>>76338506
I got EPI'd at 6 and this line of reasoning has undone all of the cope and delusion since then. Ty. Wtf

>>76330921
I can't wait to see these 40-50 year old zoomer "never gooners" who wasted their life focused on not jerking off and complaining about it on 4chan

>>76339266
Yeah they'll probably be married with children

>waah I fapped once and it ruined my life!
>can't possibly be any other reason why I'm such a spastic loser
>I need to create imagined struggles like a bitch to cope and circle jerk with other losers on the internet
>WAAAHHH
Fucking kill yourselves already, pathetic cunts.

>>76330759 (OP)
i cant im a poor khhv

>>76330759 (OP)
I goonmaxxed to the point that I literally get an anxiety attack every time I look at porn.

>>76339329
The hyperbole of reducing the cause to "just fapped one single time" in order to exaggerate the sense of proportion in the reaction means that you probably do admit something is off in the life of a habitual porn user. The sense of proportion wouldn't be ridiculous if you said it how it actually is, and there would be no incongruity to mock

>>76339385
Are you trying to convince us that masturbating too much is what made you this pedantic???

>>76330759 (OP)
My gf is my motivation. There's a noticable difference in my peenus weenus size when I abstain for a while. And seeing the look on her face when she feels it makes it all worth it brother.

>>76339385
>hyperbole
Why shouldn't I use it? That's all you retarded cultists have been doing for years.

>>76330931
>yo I found the treasure horde
>”can we seee it?”
>no
Fuck you i guess

>>76339403
Just pointing out that you inherently agree with the position that habitual porn use is harmful, otherwise you would not have phrased the hyperbolic part of the joke the way you did.

By the way, who's a cultist? Who's the one defending ritualism here?

That trash is jewish degeneracy and I will not partake.

I only jerk off in the shower, and don't jerk off when looking at porn. Been this way since day one and there's literally nothing wrong with it

>>76334120
When I don't jerk off and I see a girl dressed like a slut I turn into an animal and I try to talk to them

If I jerk off 2x a day and watch porn I see a girls nipples thru her shirt and her bare ass floating thru the wind and think "yeah so what I just saw better on pornhub 4 hours ago"

>>76330759 (OP)
if you have time to jerk off you are simply not busy enough, use that energy on your goals instead

>>76340055
Yeah porn industry redpilled me on the jews, also look how degenerate Hollywood is, also run by jews.

>>76340100
So you fry your natural instinct to pursuit women, good job coomer. Enjoy that prolactin spike bro.

>>76330759 (OP)
Like I get the motivation to do or not do anything else, just do or not do it. It's retardedly simple.