i despise my parents for refusing to get me into sports as an early teen despite me literally begging for it
i dont know how disowning your family works but if there's a letter included in the paperwork, i'm absolutely noting that down

>>76342047 (OP)
When you grow up you'll realize taking responsibility for yourself is so much more productive than blaming your parents

>>76342081
i'm sure my 12yo self would greatly benefit from this advice and take respon.... wait nvm i had helicopter parents who denied me going out and playing with other kids no matter the circumstances unless they're watching over me from 6 feet away

>>76342090
I see you decided to double down. Good luck.

>>76342096
it's okay you'll someday get over your shitty parents too anon

>>76342100
Uhuh

>>76342090
doesn't matter lil bro, hunker down, it's going to get worse probably. I'm 25 and by this age I thought I'd be anywhere except still dealing with my parents on a daily basis. I've learned to just emotionally cut them out. treat them like roommates until I can get a job and find a place to rent. they speak to me but I don't hear their words. if they insult me I do not care. I'm zen. I don't like them, never have, never will.

>>76342090
I have a relative who sounds exactly like you. They're now in their 30s and still in the same position they were in when they were a teenager. They even retell the same old sob stories instead of doing anything productive. The truth is even if you're right about being wronged it doesn't change a fucking thing. Literally nothing is going to get better if YOU don't do something about it.

>>76343008
>you're complaining so you wont do anything
i can tell the "relative" is (you), anon. you're only projecting because you hate to see an unhappy person do anything about things you deem yourself helpless towards
if you're wondering : you can't change your past retard which is what OP is talking about you absolute jeet

>>76343015
>you're only projecting
Woman brain. It's over for you.

>>76343020
>effeminate response of accusing someone of being the woman to shame them
Won't work on me. i can see the pattern and i can see through your copium
You have no answer or anything to add beisdes projecting your helplessness on others. being aware of a problem is the first step towards taking action, you never take action out of autopiloting your life. that is a completely unrelated subject tho since we're talking about ruined childhood not plain inaction

>>76342081
I blame my parents for not gifting me a paid off house in the 2000's like my friends parents were doing

Fast forward 20 years, all those people lived massively stress free lives without needing to worry about mortgages or rent, and since they're all super rich because they focused on investments in the stock market and crypto because they didnt have to worry about paying rent or mortgage

>>76343026
sure anon

>>76343008
>I have a relative who sounds exactly like you. They're now in their 30s and still in the same position they were in when they were a teenager. They even retell the same old sob stories instead of doing anything productive
Wow, do I have a relative who posts on here?

>>76343032
We all have that one relative, anon.

>>76342081
How dare he point out the fact his parents negligence at something that would have greatly improved his life.
Surely pointing it out also means that he won't do anything about it, you can't possibly do something while also knowing it would have been much easier with better parenting.

Fucking retard, i know you will thankfully never have children but you are the same kind of failure parent that raises more failed children because it's easier to put the blame on your kids and say they don't want to take responsibility than realize most of their flaws ate because of your parenting.

>>76343045
Obvious samefagging all over the thread. Grim.

>>76343008
>even if you're right about being wronged it doesn't change a fucking thing
True, but just because you can't change it doesn't mean you should forgive...or forget

>mom had breast reduction surgery during her early preventing her from being able to breastfeed me as a baby giving me autism
>She was overprotective when i was a child and didn't let me go to friends houses for sleepovers, parties or do anything by myself making me unable to form social skills at a early age
>I was a terrible student, struggled paying attention and dreaded when she helped me with my homework because she had no patient which would make me scared and unable to focus, make more mistakes and she would hit me as a result
>Was diagnosed with autistism as a child but my parents didn't do anything about it because they thought autistim pills would make me kms (almost did anyways)
>Dad provided but was extremely absent from anything i did
>Mom over the years during childhood tried to sign me up to multiple sports but i always said i didn't like it so she never forced me to do anything
>When i got to college age i wanted to start working part time and start developing social skills but and i can't stress enough how much i am not shitting you, my parents talked me out of it to help my mom with whatever she needed at home
>Eventually drop out of college, now i have no friends, no job, no skills, no prospect because of endless shitty parenting decision that dictated my life and now as an adult I have to relearn all the things i wasn't allowed to learn naturally as a child growing up or even in my late teens when I genuinely tried taking responsibility for my life but again wasn't allowed to because i wouldn't have time to drive my mother for groceries
>Parents still shit on me regularly for not doing anything with my life
>But all of this is my fault because it's my life and i have to take responsibility for it
>Every single person always says this exact line

You know what, yes it is my responsibility to change, I just wish i wasn't demonized for not having skills i was dependant on others to learn as a child and have to learn on my own as an adult.

>>76343096Y
You should've kicked your mom in the womb enough to make her reconsider the breast reduction anon. Defeatist slob.

>>76343026
it's not getting any fairer every passing day so just try to make life easier going forward bru and enjoy the publicly available and cheap mass market things you can

>>76343096
It's not your fault that it happened, but it doesn't bode well that you're still looking for someone to kiss your boo-boos. No one has the genuine desire to do that for anyone other than children and hot women. Just look at all that drivel you wrote; seriously, what do you think people are thinking when they read that (if they even bothered to)? "Oh my goodness that poor BABY!! How could they possibly do that to him this is outrageous! Quickly now, someone bring the wheelbarrow full of money and pussy for compensation!" You're an adult dude, nobody cares, and the best of us only pretend to. The only way you're going to get anything resembling love absent God is by becoming useful to others. I wish this weren't the case, but it's not so it doesn't matter.

>>76343182
>by becoming useful to others.
slave morality

>>76343184
>I live without a sense of duty
Retarded hedonist morality.

>>76343008

You can grieve the past while working hard in the present. Depending on your emotional makeup, it can even be motivating.

>>76343184
everyone serves something

>>76343008
man your relative is exactly me. in my 30s, same position as a teenager, sob stories instead of doing anything productive. its bad but all i do is think about how ive wasted my entire life and how far behind i am.

>>76343201

Really just proves that emotional neglect during childhood is rarely fixable.

>>76343204
i dunno

>>76343045
lol

>>76343182
See the problem is that whenever this sort of topic comes up is that nothing anyone says really matters, i only wrote that to vent a little but ultimately it doesn't matter, i didn't ask for sympathy or advice or anything like that but people like you act like people like me haven't heard your babble a million times already and regardless if you are right or not it doesn't matter because it's not as easy as just getting a job or talking to people, my problem is a fundamental issue at the core of my being, i have to relearn everything i have and while people like you might have some points the fact remains that your advice is as useless as my complains about the past.
Both of us and everyone here is wasting time and energy in things that don't really matter but to me the problem is that fixing that is not easy and whenever someone sees others sharing their problems while they may be well intentioned to a degree their advice amounts to nothing.
It is useless for people to try to talk about their issues because nobody is interested in sympathizing, everyone always looks to act like savior giving the most useless advice ever or one up others by saying something about their lives sucking more resulting in frustration from both side, for me your post are frustrating because you can't sympathize with me (and I don't blame you but i heard your thinking millions of times) and it is frustrating to you because it is incomprehensible to see someone lacking basic skills.

This is why these sort of threads ultimately amount to nothing

>>76343242
>I live for free with my parents and don't work

>>76343242
holy fucking crybaby god damn

>>76342047 (OP)
Nigger was gym class not a thing where you come from? Or recess? If you were actually interested you would have found a way.
I hate failed normies and their constant crying about their teenage loserdom so much it's unreal
>>76342090
Please cannonball into the nearest wood chipper

Whoa your parents were retards! Wow that's almost like... everybody else! I feel so sorry for you grown men still blaming your dumb boomer parents for you not being able to get laid as adults.

>>76343242
>"your advice is useless"
>the advice is "take responsibility for your own future"
incredible

>>76343288
he believes it's useless because he can't make any progress towards that end. He's "frozen" in place by his past and the weight of all that wasted time. In reality he's not, and nothing about his situation is unique or incomprehensible.

>>76343295
This. Anon if you're reading this start improving your life by doing literally the smallest possible thing you can think of and build from there. If that's throw away a single piece of trash then do that. Also nearly every dumb self improvement book you can think of has a kernel of helpfulness in it, you just have to actually commit to whatever it may be.

>>76343242
>my problem is a fundamental issue at the core of my being,
It's really not bro I promise. You'll quickly realize this.

>>76343096
Yeah people keep telling you that you have to take responsibility because just ruminating on it forever is how you end up stuck forever. Literally, and this is the best advice anyone will ever give you because it's the only things that works: get over it. Quit caring about the past, you can't change it. If you want things to change then just start. Also if your parents are really that vampiric then make your first goal getting away from them.

>>76343204
and whenever somebody tells you to "just harden up bro!" they always had a good childhood. it's like a guy with no legs at a cripple support group gets told by an athlete "just get up and run bro, it's not that hard bro, you're just not trying hard enough bro!".

Gen-Z are whiney pussies.

>>76342047 (OP)
blaming your parents for everything in life is a bitchmade mentality, get over it

Baby faggot thread

>>76343438
Millennials had it easy and you still managed to fuck it up

>>76343438

Just leave them to rot. Biggest blackpill of my life was realizing that most people just want to complain and not actually fix anything.

My mom smoked while pregnant and I got athma, who cares

>>76343426
So true anon. No one has ever had it worse than you, figured it out, and then tried to help others. Everyone simply doesn't understand just how tough you have it, and because of that you can dismiss their advice and continue to keep crying like a dumb faggot.

>>76342090
are you still 12? youre an adult now so act like one and move on with your life

>>76342081
Fippity bippity

The past is gone, anons. All we have is the present.

>>76343544
>most people just want to complain and not actually fix anything
why is this? I see it all the time

>>76342090
Yeah you're free now so you can go as hard as you want into whatever sport you want. I play like 5 sports now, all of them learned as an adult after my parents stopped forcing tennis (a non-sport) on me.

it's never too late to start a sport. My parents were super protective over me when I was a kid. Parents wouldn't let me go anywhere outside and if I did get a chance to go out and hang with friends my mom would call me every 10 to 15 minutes asking where I was.
Thank God I was growing up during the time the internet was still the wild west so I could explore online since the real world was gone to me. Now I'm 31 and I live on the other side of the country.

>>76343450
Damn hank marx was based

Why is this board so full of /r9k/troons? You can be a pathetic faggot there but homestly jannies should permaban you from this board for being a negative faggot when good advice is given like here
>>76343426
>>76343242

>>76343426
You are not a cripple, you are a faggot crying online because mommy and daddy didn't make you a chad. This problem only exists inside of your severely gay mind.

Why do childhood stories make you faggots seethe ?
Are you more traumatised than the people complaining and have severe PTSD reactions to it or are you so coddled that it's impossible for you to fathom someone being objected to debilitating conditions by their parents. I'll assume you're just angry failed normies who watch too much david goggins

>>76345249
your weakness is revolting on an instinctual level tbqh
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AQd3dkBMkMU

>>76342047 (OP)
You probably would've sucked and quit. If you're not muscular and athletic now, you definitely wouldn't have been athletic back then. Maybe instead you should thank your parents for saving you from some embarrassment in your youth

>>76345249
>Why does dwelling on my childhood as an adult make you chads seethe ?
>Are you more gay than the people complaining and have severe homosexual reactions to it or are you so based that it's impossible for you to fathom someone dwelling on things they can't change. I'll assume you're just sick cunts who watch too much zyzz
ftfy

The main thing I blame my parents for with my childhood was not sending me to a therapist or a psychologist when my personality fell off a cliff when I was freshman in high school age, and basically showed no concern about it. What should be some great years, I was socially isolated, never made friends or did things with people my age, never dated, never showed interest in stuff like driving, was just bitter depressed and angry and miserable all the time, never showed any ambition for life at all, and my parents just didn’t really give a shit. Well my father did do things like yell at me to go outside, ridicule me for not having friends or a girlfriend, and shit like that. My mother just never showed any care at all whatsoever about how terrible my life was. Maybe if they cared and I had gone to therapy I could have been fixed, maybe go on SSRIs and it could have significantly helped my development. Instead I just rotted and it laid the foundation for the rest of my awful life, never having a relationship or sex, never having friends, never getting a career, never having any sort of life development whatsoever

>>76345387
>Brings up homoerotic tangents out of nowhere
In your case it's the former. You were molested by your dad like all fags and get mad when others speak up about having shitty parents

>>76345434
a shrink would have just gotten you addicted to useless meds and fucked you up even more. what you need to do is go outside, make some friends, and a get a gf. read the book 'how to win friends and influence people' and the PUA manual 'the game,' there i just saved you ten years of expensive counseling and a lifetime of addiction to pharmaceuticals.

>>76345450
>muh internet argument armchair psychology
I see why you have no friends lol

>>76345477
It’s literally not possible for my life to be worse than it is outside of being disabled. A lot of normal people nowadays seem to be on some pharmaceuticals for anxiety and depression and those medications they say help them function better in society. I would take being medicated but being able to maintain a functional life socially, romantically, career-wise, and having goals and ambition, rather than a drug-less existence that’s left me about as miserable as a human being can possibly be

>>76345502
Here's a pro-tip: go to liquor store, buy a bottle of white rum. Got to grocery store, buy orange juice. Blend half and half together with ice. Drink in public in opaque container. Anxiety solved

>>76342047 (OP)
>>76342090
We're not so different, you and I. Becoming an adult and realising just how active other people's childhoods were made me feel lesser, and almost angry at my parents. But they did what they thought was best for me, and they sure as hell busted their asses raising their only son.

That didn't stop me from choosing the life I wanted. At 20 I stared lifting, at 23 I climbed the highest mountain in my country, and just last week I rode a horse that galloped at full speed through a forested canyon, all things that had my aging mother scared half to death.

Yeah, maybe I could have been taller, more muscular, or more popular in high school, sure I could have had more fond experiences to look back on. But what matters is now, now and tomorrow, not the past. You can still live the life you want, you can still build those memories that will last you a lifetime. I know it can be daunting at first, but trying and failing is a lot less painful than regret. And once you grow old and have a son of your own, then you can share all those moments with him. Your parents did what they thought was best for you. Now it's time YOU do what's best for you.

>>76345249
You're pathetic, acting like you were abused and have PTSD (actively wanting attention for it on 4chan) because mom didn't sign you up for sports? I signed myself up for sports. You're born to lose buddy, parents or not.

>>76345570
Fuck you, you dont understand. I am broken at my core, due to my parents not signing me up for volleyball camp

>>76345434
Jesus. So what are you doing now?

>>76345619
>>76345632
>>76345558
>Not sending your kids to do sports and being helicopter parents is okay
I'm glad none of you will breed lol

>>76344388
>>76342081
These niggas know it.

>>76342047 (OP)

Making peace with the fact that your parents are people with flaws are part of growing up. Start this by getting into sports now. Sure you could say you have lost your chance of getting teen pussy by being a muscular chad or something, but letting go of what ifs is also part of growing up. Start working on a future now the older version of yourself can be thankful for five years from now.

>>76345650
Yeah except that's not really what we're saying though, is it?

>>76345645
Wasting and rotting, regretting and lamenting my entire life, hoping I get the courage to kill myself

>>76345667
It's literally what you're freaking out about since OP presented it that way
I dont recall anyone ITT asking for advice or sympathy or saying that they wont put in any work. You made up a whole situation in your mind just to reinforce your just world worldview and rub your own shoulder over being such a good boy who forgave his parents and now hits the gym 3 times a week
Only people with stockholm syndrome from abusive parents would get mad at a statement like that
>Man my parents were abusive they made eat like shit and stopped me from going to sports or socializing as a kid, it wouldve made my life easier
>DOOD HAVE YOU TRIED CHOOSING DIFFERENT PARENTS AND BUILDING A TIME MACHINE NGMI ITS NOT LIKE IT'S THEIR FAULT THAT THEY SHOULDVE BEEN GENETIC DEAD ENDS
As an unironic reply

>>76345502
You ladies take yourselves so seriously holy shit

>>76345667
Obviously not, but it's just like anon said >>76343544 most people just want to whine and get high off of sympathy kicks from spineless enablers than actually do anything.

>>76345737
>NOOO YOUR LIFE CANT BE HARDER THAN MINE THAT TAKES OUT OF MY WORK BECAUSE IM INSECURE ABOUT BEING A NEPO BABY

>>76345687
>pretending you're not OP
Lol

>>76345755
Cool rebuttal

>>76345749
>cries about his childhood on the internet for paragraphs on end
>noooo actually you're the insecure ones!

>>76345761
There's no debate here, just a petulant child that everyone is laughing at.

This thread proves that /fit/ is full of incels with no empathy and only hollow husks of overworked subhumans who only relate to people stomping on them from above.
I wouldn't be surprised if everyone ITT is brown considering brownoids think child abuse is absolutely necessary and something to be proud of

>>76346421
The bait's becoming too transparent now. Take a breather.

>>76342047 (OP)
lmao I got the opposite problem my parents tried their best to get me into sports but I was too autistic and hated it
now that I'm actually into lifting and judo I desperately wish I could go back and start when I was 12
could have been a contender...

>>76342047 (OP)
No reason to disown them as an adult. Just get away from them and don't contact. I get what you mean though. I got fucked over by my family too, never was given any direction or guidance for anything in life. Didn't learn a single fucking lesson or skill from them. Had to piece it all together myself.

God, how I wish they would have properly socialized me and got me into sports. I'd have wanted to wrestle and become a fucking monster. Transition into MMA or something after that.

>tfw struggle to beat a 14 year old at wrestling at 25
He's at national level for his age and he's taller than me, but still. I wish I started early like him.

>>76342047 (OP)
My dad begged me to get into sports but I refused every step of the way until he gave up

>>76342047 (OP)
In 8th grade I would walk the 6 miles back from school everyday so i could go to wrestling practice.

Eventually all the wrestling moms who were friends with my mom began shunning her at church. I had a teamate who was my rival and hated my guts (I was pretty tough for having never wrestled and almost beat him in wrestle offs) and he gave me an old but good pair of wrestling shoes when my cheap ass ones tore.

I ended up tearing my ACL and swtiching schools so i lost 2 years. 8th grade is too late to start to be elite in wrestling anyways. I am in my mid 20s now and train mma and will have my first fight in the spring. I was suprised, but even a mediocre midwestern wrestler bodies bjj and kickboxers.


My trauma with my parents is that for 7 years out of highschool my parents refused to file my FASFA and I lost my ride to college and any funding for trade school so I never studied medicine. In collge in my mid/late 20s now. OH well, I tried my best but it was out of my control, but now it is in my control and I am doing it now.

I played soccer from around 8 until 14. Then I got into refereeing sports. Obviously the skills, camaraderie and strength that sports provides is no comparison to whatever it is that refereeing provides

>>76345434
We have almost the exact same life. Get on benzos if you can, it’s the only thing that keeps me from ending it

>>76347227
Your life was the opposite of mine. Like OP I begged my parents to take me to sports and they never did.
I guess I think you're a retard.

If only I had been a laxbro

>>76343045
true

>>76342047 (OP)
Yeah it's cool seeing the glory of pro athletes

What you don't hear is all the ones who end up paralysed or walking with a limp because of getting dumped on their neck or some idiot fucking their knee up

Just stay fit and healthy, go and have an amateur fight if you really want. Stop chasing fame and being bitter

>>76343281
you don't understand the problem and it's clear from how you wrote your post

>>76345477
>read the book 'how to win friends and influence people' and the PUA manual 'the game,
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>76345570
>But what matters is now, now and tomorrow, not the past
wrong

the past matters because some morons who had control over my life made it worse, forced to play catch up with my peers and forever lowered my potential

doesn't mean I don't try
because I do and while doing so I also hate them for doing that to me

>>76345249
Same nigger mentality as crying about how your great-great grandparents were slaves or in Auschwitz

>>76342047 (OP)
if you regret not about being international lvl competing athlete and especially if you meant wrestling career it's not really worth it to be beat up and crushed with numerous traumas by your 20's forpennies and i am not even talking about that these guys literally serve and sacrifice their lives to this sport and 99,99% of times you wouldn't even make it, actually you wouldn't even make to college d3 team if you are from usa, you should be literally made for this sport to succeed in it even at this lvl. and if you have something to prove you can always find a wrestling club in wrestling popular places and try go there and see what's it really about, i am training in club that has newbies under 30 yo training and wrestling with european youth champions side by side and even with each other on rare occasions, and if it happens so wrestling is really made for you, you can out a real fucking effort and go compete no matter how low level competitions. less reflections more ooga booga man

>>76346556
>>76347193
if you are real hidden talent you can steel succeed in it as 1 year of hard training equals to 3-4 years of same training in early teens age because you are much stronger and process things liek techniques much much faster anyways and if you got good genes and talants and free time you could still compete. but if you struggle with it now you would struggle even worse as a kid and quite anyways, so just don't mind getting late into sport and appreciate what you got, you wouldn't gone further most likely anyways and dit's not like competing at sport is easy it's actually one of the hardest things you can do out there so calm down

>>76348770
>>76350093
>>76350139
This is unironically more defeatist than not taking action

>>76350192
what's defeatist into breaking wimp's wet delusions about real hard thing that he can try and he will be hurt from it? you people seem taking everything for granted and see yourself as some rpg character you can feed with skill points endlesly while the trvth is you just go enjoy whatever you would like to enjoy, albeit be ready to pay for it especially if it is fucking wrestling career. you won't last even a week in most cases.

I wanted to sign up for boxing, but my dad insisted that white people cut too easy. To his credit, I probably wouldn't have stuck it out. But I wanted to do it and it potentially could have led me down a better life path.

Wrestling sounded fun too but then guys were talking about having their asses fingered and I didn't want to engage with that. My dad was great and always had me in baseball. It was probably the most fun I ever had, desu.

I was going to put effort into the little league thing when the pandemic hit.. now i feel like a failure.

>>76350350
You've got to be a special kind of pussy if you think going to the gym or martial arts classes regularly is mentally taxing

>>76347601
Well the only thing keeping me from ending it is my own cowardice. When you’re in your 30s and havent accomplished anything, no sexual or romantic experience, barely any friendship or social experience, no decent career experience, just miserable all the time, with the added dagger of living in one of the most beautiful successful parts of the country where you’re surrounded by it all around you, not even meds would help me with this

>>76344804
>>76344354
You don't know the first thing about me.
Why can't you people understand that you can't build a house without a foundation? Your youth is where you build that foundation and it is the ONLY time that it can be built. If you were socially isolated during your entire youth, that opportunity is gone and it will never come back. You will forever be a socially stunted individual, pushed away by the socially healthy for being weird or a little off-putting, with little social ques that you can't understand because you're a house built without a foundation in swampy soil.
I will continue doing things and trying my hardest but all my effort will not result in the same outcome as someone who had a healthy childhood, denying that is just delusional. My brain grew during my most formative years to fear people and to expect nothing but negative reinforcement. Trying to reverse that once the brain has fully grown is, I'm having trouble putting into words how difficult that is, to try to change your nature like that.
I'm not sure why you guys get so angry at this. It's just the bitter truth, though it may be a tough pill to swallow. I'm not trying to demoralize (not op btw).

>>76342047 (OP)
Mine got me taken out of fucking Karate of all things because I was beating up kids 4 school classes above me and they made a huge deal that I can't act that way.
Turned me into a pussy that was afraid to hit back a few years later.

My mom was abusive and my dad was this guy. https://youtu.be/l4h-pd74VKw
My biggest regret is not beating the shit out of her and then calling the cops.

>>76351413
Who the fuck talks here about gym bodybuilding faggotry or half assed bag punching you dumbfuck illiterate snownigger twink. You thought this long with your chud brains and came to conclusion doing such competitive sport as freestyle or greco wrestling won't break your faggot ass in half you fucking braindead gooning clueless zoomer? I am wrestler training freestyle wrestling 5 days a week, come to Caucasus I will teach you how respect hard work.

>>76343242
quite a mouthful for what foids call mansplain