I am trying to figure out how to train upper chest doing calisthenics. I hate being upside down, so I don't want to do pike push ups.

For me it feels like pushing the arm away from the center of my chest gives me the best upper chest activation. See pic related for an example of the movement pattern. By fully straightening my legs, elevating the working arm on a stack of books and using the other arm for stabilisation, I get an even deeper stretch and even better activation.

I have never seen anyone do this before, and no one seems to talk about it. Tomorrow I will do a full chest work out and include elevated side pushups in my program to feel if its any good. But I am wondering if I am being retarded here, and that an exercise like I described would be useless. Anyone tried this? Is it a retarded waste of time? Are there any equivalents using equipment like cables?

>>76346018 (OP)
bumping this dead board

>>76346018 (OP)
This looks stupid but let me know how it goes

I do twisting good mornings, spinning deadlifts, cable side raises, incline weighted russian twists for this area

>>76346168
I am trying to target the upper chest, not the side core, as stated in the first sentence of my post.

>>76346018 (OP)
>doing every possible thing in their power to avoid touching a single barbell or dumbbell
Calisthenics is the dumbest shit and makes no gains

>>76346168
>at the doctor's office
>shit is all snapped
>he looks me over
>"so, what kind of exercise were you doing when you injured yourself?"
>spinning deadlifts

>>76346168
>spinning deadlifts
>twisting good mornings
>incline weighted russian twists
Either you have the strongest core in the world or you are trying to kill yourself in a very painful way

>>76346262
Sorry I didn't read your LoTR length post, I just looked at the red bits on big lenny

>>76346018 (OP)
Just do decline push ups retard.

>>76346267
>implying the principles of progressive overload doesn't apply unless you touch a barbell or dumbbell

Are you retarded? Heard of weighted calisthenics? Heard of isolation exercises? In this case the above mentioned elevated side ways push ups would be an isolation exercise and no dumber than a dumbbell fly. I can give you a long list of seemingly dumb barbell and dumbbell exercises that people do.

>>76346018 (OP)
You posted late for the Polish schizophrenic bot-anon , he's an expert on retarded new lifts he invents. If it works then more power to you.

>>76346331
I am not that anon but here is the deal
>Upper chest or targeted anything with calisthenics
Just contort like a ballerina while you hang upside down in a triangle also lets ignore that the targeted part is probably not the limiting factor in the lift thus making it useless
>Upper chest with DB/barbell
Set your bench to 15-30 degrees

He is clearly justified in calling you a retard. Weighted pull-ups are my best lift btw

>>76346331
>Heard of weighted calisthenics?
If you’re gonna use weight then just do incline presses and flies and make significantly more gains

>>76346018 (OP)
recerse grip pushups
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/hBH2awKHle0

>>76346018 (OP)
You never heard of decline push ups?

>>76346018 (OP)
upside down is not scary
start with wall walks (women can do it) into wall assisted handstand pushups
dont need much balance for that really

I had success with this:
On a steady bulk so im upping my bodyweight slowly. Plpxplp. (Push pull legs)

Really explode upward from your chest.

I started off with testing my max pushups each workout. Try to really squeeze out that last pushup to 1up yourself each time. Then do as many sets of 20 as you can. And i mean dont stop till youve been doing pushups on your knees and you cannot physically lift up anymore.

Then do dips similarly.

There are a lot of pushup variations but this is what i like. Sometimes i use a weight vest and i feel that more in my arms.
Burpees are fun and punishing.

I dont often do pushups like this anymore but last i checked i could do 66 pushups in a row.

>>76346566
Btw i feel a pump in my whole chest better from pushups than frim any one lift. I dint particulsrly hit upper, but i do feel like i hit my whole chest that way.

Wide grip push ups
3x 15 (autistic me does 1x18 2x16 for 50 clean)
Slowly increase decline


Before I got a gym membership this was my main exercise and my chest got significantly wider. I am a manlet however

>>76346018 (OP)
>so I don't want to do pike push ups.
well you're not gonna train it otherwise

>>76346267
>can't do a single pullup
Useless muscle

>>76346018 (OP)
Just go to the gym you big faggot

>>76346454
I am not afraid of being upside down, I just hate it because my eyes become bloodshot and weird veins in my face starts popping out and stay like that for a day or so looking like a methed out psycho

OP here reporting back after doing my home gym calithenics chest day.

completed:
4 sets of 10 +20kg weighted dips at 80 kg bodyweight (perfect form deep stretch below 90 degrees)
3 sets of 16 steep decline pushups
3 sets of 8 side ways push ups as decribed above.

The side ways push ups where quite intense, providing a deep stretch at the bottom for the working arm/chest, and a massive squeeze/activation for the upper chest at the top of the movement. I am actually able to feel a pump in my upper chest, seems like I actually targeted it for the first time, even as I am typing this I feel my upper chest.

The movement did not feel awkward at all, and set up was easy with a stack of books elevating the working arm.

>>76346369
looks goated frfr, essentially a RTO pushup on rings where you keep the rings turned out throughout the whole rep, will try it tomorrow thanks fren
>>76346018 (OP)
unironically HSPU
>I hate being upside down
filtered
I will try your shit however

>>76350362
>I will try your shit however

pls report back, I need more datapoints.

What I do is I elevate my pushing hand on a stack of books, lean my body sorta sideways close to that arm, and then keep my non-working arm far away from my body so it only works as support. The side ways lean seem to help if I keep one leg crossed over the other. I also keep the legs straight out like in a regular push up, hips doesn't touch the ground like in the pic.