/fraud/-Drug addicted body dysmorphic edition
Yes, you are a drug addict.
Alcoholics, smokers, weed heads, even heroin users are better respected than you. Never EVER admit to using steroids.


read leddit r/steroids wiki before you tell us about your 250mg test and sarm cycle and how you are a hyper-responder, but you are better off asking ChatGPT for general steroid advice than both plebbit and this board.

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>>76348182 (OP)
LOOK YOU BIG EARED FREERF

>>76348182 (OP)
Has anyone added HGH to trt and gotten good results? I have a trusted source that will give me a good deal, but I don't want to blast anything more than a trt dose atm.

>>76348182 (OP)
I can buy Cardarine, or Clenbuterol, or both.

Or... i could do more test? i'm only on 200mg a week. any ideas? 400mg a week cycle perhaps? i've never gone over high TRT dosages...

>>76348215
200mg is above trt level. 400mg is a cycle, dude.

>>76348224
Nobody cares reddit nigger

>>76348224
I am sadly a low responder. 200mg a week barely gets me to 900. on 125mg a week my doctor asked if i was taking it correctly.

right now i can only get 200mg/ml testC, Sust 250mg/mg, or a blend of 200mg testE and 200mg Deca.

>>76348255
Well, that's fine then.

>>76348239
Suck my dick, you actual nigger.

So can someone pls help me here?

90kg, 5'10", was working out regularly until recently because i had a tooth infection that almost killed me from bad dental work i got years ago.

Just got back to the gym, intending on doing the cycle in a month or so. I have been on TRT for the last 5 years to treat a medical condition that caused muscle wasting and chronic fatigue.

So my options are do the clen and cardarine to get into a leaner shape, or just do more test.

>>76348224
200-250 is trt if youre not a good goy

>>76348311
why take TRT to be mid range, instead of being basically a high test natty?

Do you guys think that statement is true:

Training natural is way harder than to train on gear?

>>76348321
mid natty range is around ~1500.
You've been poisoned by estrogens, chemicals and microplastics in food and water as well as years of propaganda to think natty range is between 300-900.

>>76348341
I would say it works out about the same. The only thing that's harder to do naturally is be as strong and look as good as someone who takes gear.
In terms of training there's no difference other than you can train harder for longer with gear. If anything you're training harder than someone natural.

>>76348365
>this cope again
Ive seen roidcels barely bench 100kgs and they look twice as big as any natural. How is this training harder?

>>76348365
>In terms of training there's no difference
there are many differences moron

>>76348389
Ask them.

>>76348397
List them.

>>76348341
Depends what you mean. It's definitely way easier to get results yeah. Intermediate natty will gain at absolute best 1lbs/month of muscle and likely less averaged over the year. Intermediate natty that hops on could gain almost 1lbs/wk of muscle (likely a smidge less) their first couple cycles assuming proper dosages and training/nutrition.

As for actual in the gym training? Not really. Steroids don't really boost recovery that much as many claim and you're generally lifting heavier weight and doing more volume on gear so I'd say it's probably a little harder in that regard. Definitely more enjoyable and rewarding though.

In a blood test from a few months ago, my testosterone levels (for a test taken at 9AM) were ~8 nmol/L, but after finally getting an endocrinology appointment, I have found that the NHS will only give support to people with test levels of 6.1 nmol/L, which is ridiculously low for peak test levels for a man in his 20s. What can I do (other than not sleeping before the ~9 AM blood test) to crash my testosterone levels for the next blood test to drive my levels below 6.1 nmol/L so that I can actually get my low test treated?

I should also mention that the blood test will measure the following things:

>Vitamin B12
>Coeliac screen
>Full bloud count
>FSH
>IGF1
>LH
>SHBG
>Thyroid Function - All
>U&E
>Bone Profile
>Cortisol
>Folate
>HbA1c
>Liver function tests
>Prolactin
>Testosterone
>Transferrin (iron, T saturation)
>Vitamin D

So obviously I want to lower my test whilst not making it obvious that I'm just short of sleep (based on the levels of the other things mentioned), so I will actually then be diagnosed with low T and treated for it, rather than just being told "you aren't sleeping enough". Any tips on what I can do?

>>76348471
Vial of test is like ~$20
The fucking hoops you're jumping through just to save like ~$10 a month is insane.

>roiders will roid for this

>>76348629
but imagine the clit

>>76348658
the entire pucci will squeeze your dick and cut the blood flow.

>>76348401
intensity, volume and frequency need to be different
exercise selection should also be considered

>>76348667
Worth it

>>76348629
was already on sarms on the first picture

Due to following advice, i will be doing a cut over the Australian winter,
200mg testC a week,
two 7 week cardarine cycles with 4 weeks in between,
and 5 two week clen cycles. with two weeks in between

When should i start the clen and cardarine? maybe start with just the clen, because it's harsher i will notice if the side effects are bad first?

I can stop at any time if i feel rubbish, i'll look into a proper bulk cycle with proper muscle building ancillaries after this

>>76348210
Yeah, it's pretty mild and you need to do it for 6+ months for any appreciable results
1-2iu hgh is a good all year dose to go with trt for youthful effects, skin etc (and women)
2-4iu for fat loss and fine for men to run long term
It's what anti-aging clinics would prescribe before off label hgh uses got cracked down on
I blast on 6iu and cruise/trt on 2iu
r/steroids wiki has a lot of info on it if you want more of a deep dive and a ramping schedule to avoid possible water retention and temporary carpal tunnel

>>76349197
Hmm okay.

>>76348619
I live in the UK, private healthcare is astronomically expensive here, and I don't want to be pinning cheap test with no bloodwork and no medical professional oversight. I don't want supraphysiological levels of testosterone, I want to be higher in the normal range.

>>76349255
retard

>decide to try and do things the right way and go to clinic
>130 for bloodwork
>they assure me I can get the test vials and take them home for 60, and upsize the test shots
>purposely crash my testosterone day before bloodwork, drink beer, don't sleep, masturbate like 7 times that day
>have to wait 2 weeks
>351 testosterone, I'm normally between 800 to 1200 natty
>they give me a qt nurse, want to explain to her I'm not a low t basedboy but crashed on purpose to roid legally
>she says it'll be 350 for a 10 week cycle of test C, more if I inject there
>wtf I already paid 130 for bloodwork and now I have to pay that much for something I can get online for under 40 dollars ten times the price
>that's for 200mg, I could get 250mg of test e for like 37 dollars in bulk
>say I'll consider it and sneak out with the paperwork

Can I take these results somewhere else like a doctor and get prescribed this shit or should I just go back to buying shit on illegally with bitcoin? Is there any reason whatsoever test c should be 35 dollars a shot for 200 fucking mg

Why do women get bigger clits from doing test but men dont get bigger dicks?

>>76349438
Your dick didn't get bigger?

>>76349438
size of dick is limited
so is the size of the clit

but men have T that grows the dick and women don't have the T that grows the clit

>>76349415
Holy in so glad im not ameriturd
>bloodwork free
>10ml vial of test-c $20

>>76349404
Explain what I've said that is unreasonable.

>>76349778
you dont fucking need medical oversight for 100mg of test.

>>76349934
He's retarded though

>>76350435
True

Considering Cialis for pump support, supposed benefits to gains, and obviously the other effects
Is there any reason to not just get the stuff from gear sources? I don’t want to go through the hoops of trying to get a real rx, since my doc thinks I’m youngish and in good shape and don’t need it.
Idk if I trust Indian pharma companies, anywhere EU or US based have it?
Not asking for a source, just if there even is one

>>76350461
>since my doc thinks I’m youngish and in good shape and don’t need it.
Can't you just tell him you can't get hard? What he gonna do jerk you off to test it?

>>76350472
I’ll probably try that when I go back, but I actually like the guy, don’t want to lie to him lol
He basically just said that if I’m having issues, it’s likely anxiety, keep working on that, stay active and we’ll see in a few months.

>>76350517
>He basically just said that if I’m having issues, it’s likely anxiety, keep working on that,
nice try doc but try explaining that to a girl, you can't get hard you're not meeting with the girl ever again

>>76348308
Jesus Christ what’s with you dysgenic niggers with health conditions wanting to /fraud/ maybe if you almost died from a wittle toof infection you should refrain from blasting drugs into your bloodstream

>>76350524
Bold to assume anybody on here meets people
But this is a super good point haha

>>76350461
just every single research chemical website that pops up on google. gonna be hard to find! lol

>>76350524
They would probably prescribe you viagra

>>76350767
100% aware it’s easy to find, wanted to know if the rx grade is better to where it’s worth not just buying the research version

is deca safer than tren

Optimal cruise/trt dose if I'm more concerned with avoiding sides (specifically high E2) than getting jacked?

What Anavar dose do yall recommend? I just finished a 40mg/day cycle. Is TUDCA alone enough for liver support or should I take something else?

>>76350939
250 test
150 primo
dont need any AI

>>76350992
How to find legit Primo?

>>76350939
It's different for everyone. Inject subq 2x/week @100mg/week and titrate up.
>>76350950
Lol
>>76351216
Lol again

Will tren, Eq, and Mast be enough to ward off the test bloat?

And how do we think of M1T vs Superdrol
>>76348215
Cardarine and Clen are both drugs used in fat loss stacks sure, but thats where their similarities end. Clen is a true fat burner which will raise your TDEE, Heart rate, and induce lipolysis.
Cardarine just encourages and facilitates the use of fat for energy over carbs in the body. Its effect most seen in boosting endurance, or activities which are dominated by fat burn, regardless.

In other words, clens a real fat burner, Cardarine will help you burn more calories in a cut or in activity, but you still have to do the work.

Alright boys give me your opinion on getting TRT and just saving it up for test only cycles vs ordering chinese bathtub gear on the internet.

>>76350461
when i was in college i ordered viagra from the sketchiest fucking pajeet website I have ever seen and they acutally didnt scam me or anything.

>>76348239
So much motherfucking this

>>76351451
>Will tren, Eq, and Mast be enough to ward off the test bloat?
Diet in check and dosage dependant but this stack absolutely kicks ass. Throw in some Cialis
Dry, shredded, veins popping, some insanity to top it off

>>76348182 (OP)
hello /fraud/,
Please find attached a sultry photo of Dasha. Please DO NOT look at her feet in the photo, that is against the rules.
Thank you for your attention in this matter.

>>76348210
TRT + HGH is the recipe for success my man. Like the other anon said, it takes time and dont go nuts. I stick to around 3 iu a day.

>>76349934
Kek. Obviously dude didn't learn from Covid that medical professionals are all fucking idiots.

>>76351255
Subq is gay and for peptides and GH only. You're gonna be pushing more oil into your body eventually so just pin a muscle. Nobody wants those dumb lumps.

>>76350847
ah that i am unaware. if they got good reviews, it's likely all the same, just you'll get a liquid version so there's some dosage guesswork as opposed to a nice little pill. then there's always the what if monster lurking, whereas pharm you know is pure'ish. bunch of non answers sorry

>>76351658
bathtuuuuub! if you're worried, buy some sterilized vials, 0.22um filters, and refilter what you get. floaters is a common complaint, as is coring the rubber stopper (which you can avoid since you're buying your own vials). just make sure the bathtub salesman has recent test reports, 'cause there's fake shit popping up from ne'er-do-wells

>>76348255
Same here. 150 only gets me to about 6-700. I want to bump it up but I actually aromatize at this dosage which is retarded.

>>76348182 (OP)
Does superdrol actually give you maintainable long term gains? I know it bloats you up with glycogen and makes you heavy as fuck while you're taking it, but most people seem to say it only gives you a tiny fraction of that as actual gains.
What if I'm doing a longer cycle on 10mg to maximize longevity? Shits toxic but I've got a lot of it and need to burn through it over time.

>>76352467
Are you seriously asking a dolphin hair braiding newsgroup for permission to use some roids you already own
Are you also debating if you should go on trt or perchance do a sarms only cycle?
haha
you mfs make me doubt my e2 is properly controlled sometimes, fr fr no cap

>>76350461
I have consistently heard that India pharma has better pill pressing standards than most of the Chinese gear sources. No issues with the tadalafil that I have been using from India pharma for years.
>>76351216
atm no primo should be considered legit unless you are willing to test it yourself.
>>76351658
Just order it from the Chinaman and filter it yourself like the other anon said. I "bake" the gear for an hour at 230F for even more sterility before filtering it but that probably isn't needed. If you stick to the "big" and well known China suppliers you will be fine. If you have issues with EO then avoid them because they all use it no matter what they are brewing.

i just did my first shot yesterday (250mg test cyp) and my glute is still a bit sore from it, is that normal?

I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE WHERE I CAN GET BPC I NEED IT NOW

>>76353714
Just ask the most jacked guy in your gym for dat dere celltech
He'll hook you up

>>76353412
isnt like 170F the highest you want to heat things before they start to degrade? like when people brew,and complain the color is off. i don't think it necessarily kills the active, but oxidizes or somethin?

How different is 500test/wk to say 800? I know everyone is different yada yada but there's got to be a little anecdotal consensus. I'd imagine there's ton more sides and little gain, or that it's hardly different at all.

is keeping peptides in an ice bath just as good as keeping them in the fridge/freezer?

>>76354126
Dont your retarded ass own fridge

>>76354037
My body completely shits itself at 800
Overwhelming apathy and depression, can't even lift, barely could get out of bed
500 is good though, feel athletic, lots of boners and PRs
I'd say 17% better performance at 800 if I had to assign a number

>>76348471
Just buy your own its cheap fuck the nhs lmao

Is there any real difference between test C and test E?
I am injecting 100mg twice a week of test E, will i notice if i change to test C?

estrogen retard guy here from a few threads ago
would buserelin nasal spray be helpful at all for restarting natural T production, in a similar position as hCG

>>76349255
if youre just looking to pin a trt dose to be in the upper end of normal, you can use 27-31 gauge insulin syringes which are virtually painless, it would be a subcutaneous injection, youll reach the same serum test levels as intramuscular, the only difference is absorption will take a little longer, look into it

>>76349255
Just down the road from I have a place called "any lab test now" and they will do any lab test now. I plan to just use grok as my physician and get monthly bloodwork done until I am comfortable with what I am doing.

>>76354418
dont change shit if you have test that you are not having any allergic reactions to or have problems with

>>76354479
I was on phama TestE 250mg in peanut oil it was great, I moved and am now on UGL vegetable oil 400mg TestE that SUCKS and I hate it, too concentrated. So i am switching to something milder

He has a current shortage of some stuff, I wanted to try the grape seed oil 250mg, but he's sold old. The only pure testosterone he has, not blends, are TestP100mg, TestC200mg, and Test Sust 250mg.

I'm not just randomly changing things for shits and giggles.

>>76352255
>>76353412

Genuinely why wouldn't jump through the very small hoops to get TRT and then I have legal test that is medical grade and I can then do test only cycles and also have my hgc and ai and shit medical grade as well. Seems like its way better and more convenient and safer and everything.

>>76354510
Nhs hormone therapy is total dogshit lmao. Just buy all your own stuff. You can buy pharma a.is easy same as test but theres no point buyiny pharma test as theres so many good labs that are cheap as fuck just run them.

>>76354430

How often are you supposed to switch which side you pin in?

>>76354620
anything wrong with this case report?
https://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(09)01228-X/fulltext

Thoughts on veterinary-use EQ? I can get some easily, and it goes through actual quality control (unlike UGL stuff). I'm on the fence about getting some since it's only 50 mg/mL though, that's a lot of oil to pin.

>>76354806
EQ is just as week as test and you want to run 50mg/ml because you're a scared little bitch when it comes to UGLs. Lol.

>>76354806
Too much oil to pin for sure
300mg/ml is a decent concentration for EQ, 1ml in the delt doesnt even give me pip
50mg/ml would not be fun

>>76355011
400mg is fine, beyond that you need EO to stabilize it. I'm not sure why a bunch of faggots are okay with chinamen and UGLs using EO, shit's terrible for you.

>>76354806
EQ is fairly cheap, doesn't get faked like primo, no good reason to really

If I crash my e2 on purpose will I lose water weight and look better at the beach

>>76355003
I run a bunch of other stuff UGL, but this one's both safer and cheaper than the UGL alternative.
>>76355020
>>76355011
Yeah, probably not worth the hassle, was thinking of splitting it into 4 days, but that's still 4 mL of oil without counting the test. Quite a shame since 100 mL is half the price of an UGL vial.

>>76354510
doc for scrip i guess? otherwise i'm stingy, and would rather put in some elbow grease and spend $3k for years worth of blasts, than $1k+/yr for trt with some var

>>76355368
The only good thing about a trt clinic is a getting a note for having needles/gear on planes and or in your car. Just get the doctors note and bail IMO.

>>76353202
Are you retarded? Did you even read the fucking question you stupid faggot?
I'm just asking if Sdrol provides long term gains or if its for short term cosmetic benefits only.
I've been blasting and cruising for years and I've heard mixed things. The people here tend to be very honest and upfront about these things.

>>76355718
No it's completely temporary
Worst oral of no gains

>>76352158
Ok boomer

>>76355184
A 100 ml vial is $10?

Is dianabol still a thing people actually use or is it completely overshadowed by more modern protocols? My guy has it on discount and I was looking at doing a bulking cycle in about 6 months

Back from vacation and beginning a new blast of Tren And Test, wanted to use mast as well, but its too expensive nowadays for what it is, and the tren will be the main muscle builder anways. Once proper lean will use winstrol for the cosmetic effect.
Still deciding whether to use Eq or Asin for estrogen management.


Alsp gobbled 20mg superdrol as a Kickstart

>>76356186
Dbol is still effective, one of the more potent orals compared to tbol, or proviron for example. But its heavy estrogenicity just make it not worth it to just throw in. Superdrol, Anadrol, anavar, m1t. These are all equally potent if not much more potent and dont add e2 issues.

If you use it, just expect to increase your estrogen management compounds.

>6 month bulk
Any kind of oral probably isn't good for that long bro. Especially methylated ones like dbol, the liver toxicity is real with orals, besides maybe var and provirone. IMO orals are for 2-4week phases for cutting or peaking
They're not a long term bulk thing...

>>76356356
you misunderstood, in 6 months I will begin a bulking cycle. Right now I am in recovery after an illness.

1 month recovery, 200mg a week TRT (i am not a strong responder)
4 month cutting/recomp cycle (staying on 200mg a week but with clen and Cardarine)
1 month rest on TRT
not sure what bulk cycle i will do

>>76355720
Thank you.
What would you recommend in its stead? I liked it in concept because its 'generally' considered hair safe, and doesn't aromatize.
I know var and tbol arent techinically hair safe, but i cant imagine they would cause unrecoverable damage in 8 weeks of usage right?

>>76356356
if eq has an ai like effect on you, why not use it? seems more pros than asin

>>76357019
i would recommend learning why androgenic steroids are not safe for your hair. no one can tell you what will happen to your hair or how much non-water lean mass you'll accrete. it sounds like you're doing some shit oral-only cycle anyways so just do it. dumbass. when you come back with no gains and 2 weeks after the last pill your hair is falling out and you've pissed away the last of your glycogen water, don't come in here crying.

>>76357453
How many times do I need to tell you I blast and cruise test? I'm not an oral only cycle fag.I understand exactly why hair loss happens you fucking retard, Sdrol has an incredibly low ratio of androgenicity to anabolism, making its as hair safe as an AAS can be. At least on paper anyways.
When I'm asking a bunch of faggot roidtrannies online for advice, I'm not looking for some cut and dry study or some shit I already know, I want anecdotes and personal experience.
This place used to be fun you know. Can't even ask questions about steroids in the steroid thread anymore.

>>76357019
>>76357019
I can't think of an oral that gives "permanent" gains, they're all more or less in the same boat of temporary gains, just different profiles. what are you looking for exactly? you said you have a stash of sdrol, there's nothing wrong with just going through it. although not permanent, you get really strong and look really good while on it, it's def a top tier oral if you can handle the liver toxicity. I personally can't run it for more than about 4 weeks before my liver starts showing signs of crapping out.

I like var because I can run it for 8+ weeks at a time without liver damage (though it fucking destroys my lipids). tbol is the worst oral I've ever used, it doesn't fucking do anything.

>>76357809
I was going to say that var is the only one that I feel I’ve gotten actual gains from because you can actually run it for long enough for it to do so. Adrol is fun because of how fucking strong you get but after two weeks I wish I was dead, even at 50 mg a day.

>>76348182 (OP)
I opted for test pellets since I have a rare eye condition that could basically start making blood vessels rupture and cause blindness similar to macular degeneration. Eye specialist told me that I'd greatly increase my risk of this if I went on a high dose, so now, I just have the test levels of an 18 year old, and that's good enough for me.
I'm not seeing FAST change, but at 51, being able to eat more and not gain fat + seeing a few lbs. of added lean mass to where the middle-aged woman at the gas station keeps complimenting me means that something is working correctly.

>>76357019
Well superdrol is just really toxic
yeah it has huge cosmetic benefits
you can get good gains on it but it can't be the only thing you run
The appetite suppression is probably the deal killer
But if you have some its best as a peak week oral or a couple weeks of a longer cycle
As far as something else, dbol, var, tbol and anadrol are all decent choices for building muscle
Var and tbol being relatively weak but more manageable
Pair one or more of them with test+deca+eq(no surprises here) and thats a good cycle for long term gains
Brandon Lilly's strength cycle that he posted is a good example

>>76357782
right? whole vibe is different after the hack. all the old fags stopped posting or something

>>76357834
hell yeah dude! fuck biology. run your own damn show. get them gas station floozies!

>>76357834
oh and yeah, expect six months for all the benefits to kick in. shit's a shock to your body, and it takes time for things to adjust to the new normal

>>76357782
if you bnc why the fuck are you worried about your hair? the test long term is gonna bald you way more than 8 weeks of ANY oral lmao. just take the fucking steroids if you need that tiny extra bit of mass or look or whatever the reason is you wanna add orals

I'm going for my second testosterone blood work soon to confirm low T. My first result was 302 ng/mL. What can I do to make sure my test stays low so I can get prescribed TRT?

>>76359344
take estrogen jej

>>76359359
thats fucking retarded

>>76359363
real answer you can just take basically any roid

>>76359344
eat like shit, most importantly sleep like shit but don't show that you do

>>76355989
Lost the link for the 100 mL one but I just found a 250 mL bottle at the equivalent of $20 USD, so yes.

I’m 6 weeks into TRT at 200 mg/week plus 500 IU HCG weekly.

For the first time, I felt what I think were high E2 symptoms. Lab test showed my E2 at 50.

I took 0.25 mg of anastrozole, waited a day, then took another 0.25 mg. Three days later, I took another 0.25 mg on my injection day.

Now I have zero libido. When I started TRT, I wanted sex with my wife 3 times a day; now I feel nothing. I just feel flat, though I’m also more sentimental and emotional.

I’m not sure what to do. Should I be taking 0.25 mg of anastrozole every injection day? Did I crash my E2? I was extremely confident and horny, and now it’s gone.

>>76359490
Damn, that really is a great deal. I would get it just for kicks but you’ll need to pin like at least a ml a day to get a decent dosage

>>76359652
>Did I crash my E2? I was extremely confident and horny, and now it’s gone.
yes, stupid

>>76359652
Yeah you crashed it but adex will start to wear off in 3-5 days so just ride it out. I’m sensitive to AI and even 0.25 adex twice a week crashed my e2 on 600 mg test. I switched to aromasin and I tolerate it much better. Start with 6.25 mg on pin days and increase from there. I’d recommend increasing frequency instead of the dosage you take at one time first.

>>76359652
be glad you didn't take aromasin all willy nilly like that

>>76348629
>>76348658
>>76348667
and the calloused deathgrip handies

>>76349048
clen sucks ass and is horrible for you i recommend t3 (thyroid hormone) instead. naturally increases metabolism and nutrient paritioning rather than superficially

Nattys are in this thread right now seething about how someone is injecting the illegal death juice into themselves to get bigger muscles
Hey nattys, hope you are ok

In my gear knowledge journey, ive come to the conclusion Anavar, the broadly proclaimed and lauded, is ultimately useless and outmatched in every category by other orals.

>Aesthetics
Doesn't come close to the Dry, Vascular Look Winstrol gives, or the death star delt pumps from Superdrol

>Strength
Halo and Anadrol, no contest

>Pump
Again superdrol and probably even dbol

>Muscle
Superdrol, M1t, methyltren, etc

>safe long term
Dumbest reason to use var. If you want a potent boost for your anabolism months on end, you up your injectable load. Even tren is safer than var long term Bloods wise).

Maybe has some use for pussies wanting an oral only cycle, as low dose var (e.g. 10-20mg a day) WILL NOT CAUSE FULL SUPRESSION as seen in clinical studies.

What do I take to strip fat? Visceral fat to be more specific

Hey any of you taken test while on SSRIs? I cannot get interested in sex to save my life.

>>76352463
How do you know you're aromatising?

>>76361087
yeah i don't think test is gonna help you, bud. sorry about the ssri bs. can try test + tren or mast + proviron + maybe halotestin but you shouldn't take that for long

>>76360918
Pretty much also its one of the only steroids metabolized by the kidneys so it does actually stress them vs the others stressing the liver which can take a beating. Agree its a shit drug vs the ones you mentioned.

>>76360918
orals are meme. Superdrol is superior on paper, but side effects aren't worth the pain. High blood pressure, water bloat, bad for cardio and reps.

Var is just good for pre workout, but most niggers here take female dosages instead of taking 50mg

tldr orals are for fags, stick to injectables

>>76361976
>waterbloat
>superdrol
You got anadrol.

>>76348182 (OP)
TL:DR The doctor said I have low T and prescribed me T. I assumed I would go to the pharmacy and they would just give me an injection and I go home. Instead I went to the Wal-Mart pharmacy and they gave me 6 bottles of test and a pile of needles.

>mfw

I've never injected anything before and thought where could I find a group of people who inject themselves with test reguarly... Anyone got advice or a tutorial video? Yes I'm retarded and this was not a planned endeavor for gainz.

>>76362914
there's no way you were
1) given 6 vials at once
2) not taught how to inject intramuscularly

what fucking weird ass third world country do you live in?

read this https://old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/thecycle/injecting

>>76354622
i swap delts every injection (twice / wk) and have no problems after like a year+ of pinning. Also im not sure but I dont think the oil is even fully absorbed/distributed into the blood after 3 days. I have literally no evidence to back that up tho

>>76355144
why not just use diaretics and a big sauna sesh right before instead of obliterating your hormone balance

>>76348182 (OP)
>you cant get big on 250mg test
how does /fraud/tards explain this anon making gains on it

>>76357809
mainly looking for lean gains, strength. dont really care about fat loss or "hardness"
sucks about tbol for you, i've always known it to be very mild but not doing anything at all is fucked up.
i will probably use the superdrol, i'm just worried about anything that will boost me that much without it lasting. i feel like ill spend the rest of my time using trying to chase that level of strength or aesthetics.
like sure ive experienced that on a much smaller level with test and var, never look 'quite' as good as i do peak cycle, but it seems sdrol is a different beast when it comes to short term transformation and strength.

I should branch out with injectables though. literally just test with orals and hcg so far.

>>76357931
i've seen it on every board im active on too. i'll post the most genuine and nondescript comment and get shit from some random fag for literally no reason. wonder if the news cycle about the hack brought in a bunch of larper zoomer newfags who act like dicks 24/7 because they think thats the "4chan thing to do"

>>76357832
i've also heard this about other orals if people are able to push them for 8+. that usually just leaves the lighter ones like var, tbol but for some people ultra tolerant or ultra retarded that can run anadrol and sdrol for longer periods, they get more solid gains too.
dbol was obviously a golden age staple but im still convinced its just a hypertensive pepperoni tit water pill. hate that shit.

>>76361090
gyno flares up and has even grown over time. ill need to get surgery at some point probably. it sucks but i tried to come off TRT once and ill gladly take some gyno and a procedure over that absolute fucking hell.

to be fair, it may just be that i have giga sensitive estrogen receptors in the nips, cause i really dont have other high e2 sides. i can run up to 300 without having anything other than titties.

>>76363200
you certainly can get decently big, especially if your natty genetics were above average. its like TRT extra plus. A mini blast.
The real reason people say that its pussy shit. Compared to the type of shit proper gearheads use, its literally nothing.
500 will always be my minimum personally, and i will shit on anyone using less for a blast as a joke, but i really dont care. if it works for you it works.
i definitely dont care anymore cause im on test for the rest of my life, but if i wasnt then i wouldnt want to shut myself down and go through pct for only 250.

>>76363200
Yawn. I can make a Photoshop picture like that in my sleep.

>>76361087
tren test + boner pills and youd fuck anything with a moderately wet hole

>>76362914
plenty of vids on youtube just search intramuscular delt injection. if watching the needle psychs you out look up a glute injection video. make sure you use seperate needle tips to draw the oil and inject it. dont recap it or fuck around after taking the cap off, you want it to be as sharp as possible to minimize pain and scar tissue.

I dont personally do this anymore but knowing the unhygienic denizens of this board i would also suggest wiping the injection site and your vial with isopropyl alcohol each time.

Any way to prevent shutdown? Like perma taking clomid, HCG, pregnenolone or other shit instead of reserving it for pct?

>>76363116
Colorado, the pharmacist thought I was joking with him when I told him I didn't know I was supposed to inject myself. Maybe the doctor who ordered my prescription thought I was roiding or something, idk, I'm not 'big' like that. Upon reading the prescription, I also get 4 refills per bottle. They were 1ml 200mg test bottles good for one injection if that means anything.

>>76363483
I alcohol'd everything a dozen times while trying to psych myself up, the needles are fixed retractable so I couldn't use 2 separate ones. desu it wasn't bad but I'm paranoid about glute injections since I read a story about a guy injecting in his glutes and hitting a nerve and fucking up his leg.

>>76363241
>photoshop
Lmao. You do realize people get bigger than me naturally, right? I’d never recommend using less than 500mg for a first blast for a multitude of reasons, but I use 250 because i believe in using the least amount of drugs possible for what my goals are. My goals are to effortlessly maintain a moderately lean body while being relatively strong and able to lift hard 5x a week at 36 years old.

>>76363520
hcg or hmg both work pretty well. guys on trt use them to get balls back. you still need to do a pct after cycle to ensure but if you do either of them the whole time it should be easy.

>>76363537
are you retarded? what do you mean he thought you were joking? you couldn’t just say “no i’m serious i actually don’t know”?
are people this socially inept?

>>76363557
It was an old guy probably in his 70s and I did tell him directly but he was giving me the 'you're on your own' answer once he realized I wasn't joking.

>>76363574
weird. youtube is where to go there’s plenty of vids.
if the needles they gave you are larger in gauge and a full inch long, you can keep the ones for drawing and buy 27-31 g half inch needles. like for insulin. make injecting easier.
it’s okay is the needle doesn’t get deep into the muscle or only gets into subq territory. subq is fine anyways if you wanted to deliberately inject into your belly fat or something.
obvious but do not draw and inject with same needle and do not reuse needles. additionally regardless what any retard in here or the health services in any country says, you need to aspirate (pull back on plunger a bit to see if blood enters the syringe) before injecting. if blood is seen in syringe you swap needles and restart injection.

that’s all for practical advice. actual injection tutorials are on youtube. good luck and enjoy the low t relief.

>>76363220
I want to try this adrol protocol where you run it for two weeks on, two weeks off for your whole cycle. Supposedly it mitigates the worst sides and keeps liver values from getting too high.

>>76363596
Thanks

Didn't know about drawing and inject requiring different needles, I got 6 25ga 1.5in needles with 6 bottles, figured it was a 1-1 ratio.

>>76362914
Ignore anyone who advises quad injections. Only maybe useful for grotesquely obese creatures who don't have the mobility to pin anywhere else. Everyone else can and should pin On VG, delt, lat, and pec if your brave enough( personally one of my faves, incredibly underrated) .

There's a spotinjections.com which has helped me a lot. Chatgpt is also a good coach, no joke.

Vg takes come contortion, but delt and pec and dead easy. Its really just stabbing yourself in the meat of the target muscle.

>>76363629
injecting with a 25g is doable, i used to do it. You can definitely draw with that too but it may be low flow.
i use 18g for drawing and 27-31g for injection depending on what ive got.
1.5 inches is wayyy too long. used to call those things harpoons. theres a chance you could hit bone depending on injection site, so if you use those only go .5-1 inch in.
>>76363635
All of those are good injection sites but i'll argue against quad hate. i inject almost exclusively with quads and ran into issues with all other areas. pip, hitting blood vessels, generally uncomfortable injection experience. quads is easy, accessible, and i rarely get pip. when i do its my fault due to poor technique or contaminated oil.
i think most training videos will be on the quads. its up to you of course, but id try it at least once before saying fuck it.
surpisingly enough subq belly fat hurts the most consistently for me despite it being an option for people AVOIDING pain. i get pip like crazy. cant wear a seatbelt or pants belts or lay on my stomach.

>>76363635
I do delt, lat, pec, tris, vg and quad. I never get pip. Never had a problem with quads either but my delts always bleed and leak oil for some reason. Agree that pecs are based though, my fav after lats.

>>76363537
Nice. How often and how much you supposed to inject. You supposed to do 1 vial a week?

>>76363906
1 vial every 14 days is what's on the label.

My T was bouncing off the bottom of the range considered statistically normal for being 30 and I thought that might be why I've had lower energy and lower libido so I asked my doctor about TRT. I thought I was getting one injection from a pharmacist and told to check back in 4-6 weeks. Instead I ended up with a prescription for 24 vials of 200mg of test.

I had my first injection yesterday. The injection itself didn't hurt at all, but now i'm getting the pip.

>>76363993
How low was your testosterone?
I had my total testosterone tested and the result was 4.4 ng/ml, but the doctor said that's enough and refused to prescribe trt. I asked for a second blood test for testing my free testosterone, but they said no.

So i ordered it on my own. I'm injecting 125 mg per week with a 26g 1" needle on my quad.

>>76364149
No idea, didn't ask. The plan wasn't go get TRT but the conversation just went there and next thing I knew I got a ton of Test

The place I usually buy from only has sustanon in stock for pure T, is it as useful as a single ester or should I just wait until test c is back in stock

>>76364084
I had that first time, but I think it was mainly psychosomatic. It's happened since too though. Doesn't help I keep injecting into the same glute probably.

>>76363200
the bhasin dose response study confirms this is pretty much in the sweet spot for gains. adding much more test increases sides for little gain in muscle and actually in young men (read: men who are not senior citizens) reduces strength.

>>76348215

>>76364683
Why is his hair like that? Is it for a bet?

>>76364691
Thats his normal hair. He just cuts it before the fight

>pay for roids 2 weeks ago
>they're still "talking with the manufacturer" and haven't sent me tracking code

>>76364742
They are putting extra poison in it since you didn't tip
Enjoy your absess and loss of limbs
Maybe next time you'll tip, chud

>>76348182 (OP)
looking to start my first cycle.

current lifts:
225 OHP
315 BENCH
405 SQUAT
500 DEADLIFT

just looking to get huge and strong not interested in my looks. advice appreciated

What's the likelihood of permanent t shutdown or reduction post cycle, assuming you've done pct, etc.

Chatgpt throws out a number like something from 5-10%, which still seems egregious, but I guess I'd believe it. Anecdotally speaking, how common is it for people who juice to end up on trt for the rest of their lives?

>>76364918
The male contraception studies were 0% failed to restart natural production
The older you were the longer it took though
I think that 5% from chatgpt is people not really wanting to be natural anyway, easier to get prescribed trt than an intelligent and potentially multi month even year of pct from a doctor these days 2bh
The longest ones to restart were 50+ yrs old and on enough test for birth control and shutdown for at least 12 months and they still came back

tldr: permanent shutdown is a meme

>>76364918
>>76365180
What I think is really is happening is people do a few cycles and decide to blast and cruise(because it's great) for the rest of their lives so they go to the doc for a permanent trt script and say they had previously used steroids and can't get their balls back online or something similar
Mark Bell did this in the Bigger Stronger Faster documentary now that I think of it
Good way to explain needles and always looking juiced

>>76364880
r/steroids/wiki
Do the newbie 500mg test only first cycle for 16-24 weeks that the wiki describes
Figuring out your e2 management is probably the biggest positive that you can get outside of the gains so focus on that, write it down if need be
Then after that cycle, you can decide if you like frauding enough to continue

What could be the cause if I have no issues getting hard I wake up with a boner everyday I dream about fucking my girl coworker but I have literally 0 libido a few months ago if I saw booba I would howl like a 90s cartoon but now it's nothing. I dont even masturbate no more.

Also lifting performance is fine.

>>76364918
probably extremely low especially if your e2 is in control

>>76365246
e2 balance vs test, dopamine particularly from 19nors, fatigue from lifting + roids, diet specifically not eating enough or enough fats, dht/shbg/free test out of whack
Whatever you are taking could have finally saturated fully and thats why it seems like nothing changed
Libido is a lot of different things combined so could be one thing or multiple

>>76348182 (OP)
Ive been sick for 2 years and have taken 2,700 mg of prednisone and 3,747 mg of budesonide during that time. Because of this, my bones, tendons, and muscles have become weak, some worse than others. I now have a severe tendon injury from basic activity, and I want to reverse some of these side effects.

Ostarine, along with enclomiphene, seems like my only good option to treat all of this. If I can gain a little bit of muscle too, that’s cool. Ostarine is the only compound I know of that’s been shown to somewhat improve bone mass, tendon health, and muscle mass. I’ll be using it with my current physical therapy and light workouts with just the bar for a while.

Plan:
Ostarine – 12.5 mg/day for 8 weeks
Enclomiphene – 12.5 mg/day for 4 weeks (post-cycle)

based or cringe?

>>76365592

>>76365592
>(post-cycle)
what cycle?

Is low shbg the fibromyalgia of gear use?

>>76349415
I'm doing the exact same thing! Just ordered my test with Ethereum from... A place online.

>>76354126
a lot of peptides are fine at room temp for a month or two, even more.

>>76365592
hgh, nigga. complicated ass nothing happenin shit cycle plannin honkey

>>76363664
i get SO sore when i pin my quad. plus I hit a pretty big nerve there and its psyched me out from quads since. felt it in my lower spine

>>76364918
dont mess with gear if the thought of being on trt for life is like scary to you. I for one will happily take test for the rest of my life. I think I was very low T to begin with though, my whole generation probably is

>>76363604
im not going to lie that sounds retarded. orals have a very low half life and you lose the benefits they give you pretty quickly. id rather try to push it for as long as possible to "solidify" the gains (IE run it long enough to get real gains and not glyocen bloat) than on and off.

i feel anything you'd get after only 2 weeks would melt off in about 2 weeks if you stopped there. maybe a more potent oral like sdrol this would work. adrol is obviously extremely potent but its still a different world.

>>76363993
if they arent keeping track of how often you are pinning i'd adjust the dose and frequency.

you need to be pinning more often than every 14 days. every week is doable. every 5 is better, and every 3.5 is optimal imo.
you can pin as often as every day, and some people say it helps them a lot, but they use a different ester (test prop) and honestly i dont care about what extra benefit i can squeeze out, i dont want to pin every day.

being 200mg/1ml vials i assume you mean ampoules, which aren't really reusable. when you crack em, you need to use the entire thing or toss the leftovers.

ideally, with a proper TRT doc, you'd start at a dose like 100 or even less weekly, and titrate up while doing blood work to see where you feel the best. 200mg a week is overkill for most people TRT wise.

Not sure what advice to give you. You can try 100-150 every 5 days and toss the rest. any more frequent and you'll be tossing a lot of vials lol. maybe find a proper TRT doc. I personally knew my shit was low and just self medicate with chinese bathtub chemicals like >>76364149 is.

>>76364691
its a hat called a papahka native to dagestan. lots of them wear it leading into fights to show pride.

>>76364822
am.... am i supposed to be tipping??

>>76365592
what did you have? lupus?
also nobody here has any knowledge or experience dealing with a complicated situation like that with very specific goals. i've personally known Deca to be incredibly helpful for my joints and tendons. HGH/MK677 helps greatly for bone health/bone mass. You'd want to run test either way.

>>76366104
isn't low SHBG a good thing?

>>76366731
same thing happened to me with glutes. never has the quad issue. everyone's different. thats why i say try them all and see what works best for you.

>>76366867
There’s a whole group of low-SHBG sufferers (mostly on reddit from my understanding) who claim that it causes low libido and energy levels, ED, anxiety, etc. Basically a bunch of vague, non-specific symptoms which is why I asked if it is comparable to fibromyalgia; everyone knows it’s fake except the people who claim to have it.
My shbg has been like 5 for the past several years and I feel fucking great btw.

>>76366979
In that case, yeah. That's like "Post finasteride syndrome" completely made up bullshit that could be attributed to anything.
Fibromyalgia is like functional neurological disorder too. It basically means "we dont know what the fuck is wrong with you and its probably psychosomatic or fake"

>>76363542
Cool story bro. Literally nobody asked though.
>>76365592
Retard lol

what I can expect from 500 test 500 mast 300 npp

redpill me on mk-677 brothers

My goal is to be lean and ripped, somewhere between otter mode and athletic. Will anavar and trt dose of test help me? Any other compounds I should look into?

>>76367429
4got pic

>>76367429
>>76367430
Vyvanse unironically

>>76367188
gains? go try it out and tell us dumbass. you didn't include your goal for the cycle or your current body comp. you'll get bigger and leaner if you dont eat like a pig. big surprise.

>>76367426
its a growth hormone secretagogue. you take it and you generate more growth hormone. it also makes you hungry as fuck in the window after you take it, like insatiably hungry if you take a decent amount. great for bulking.
it also improves sleep quality and gives you vivid dreams. take it right before you sleep for this benefit. only issue is you might wake up later so fucking hungry you devour half your pantry.
its a cool pill, i like it. its nowhere near the level of effectiveness of HGH especially when paired with insulin, but not everyone can afford or wants to pin HGH every day.
keep track of your fasted blood sugar on it. it does elevate this over time and can theoretically make you diabetic if you are retarded.

>>76367431
elaborate. didn't think a stim for focus had any benefits for body comp changes.

i recently reduced my trt dose and started feeling worse especially in my workouts. i just pushed it back up when i pinned yesterday, but my workout today was still shitty. will it take longer for me to feel the increased dose again? or is the issue maybe not related to test?

>>76367458
It suppresses your appetite

>>76367474
im not gonna get a script for vyvanse when i could just have the will to not stuff food in my mouth.

if its that big of a deal just smoke cigarettes.

>>76367429
trt, hgh, retatrutide

>>76367449
Was just wondering if the ratios are ok desu.
Goals are to "recomp" lose some fat and get a little stronger at the same time.
Tired of cutting while cruising and still too fat to bulk. Should have bought some tirz and hgh I'm only cutting with 200 test and its not going too well...

>>76367530
ratios are fine. if you the mast doesn't keep the e2 in check you can increase it or use AI. maybe npp at 400 as i havent notice an increase in incidence of sides from 300 to 400 and get more gains.

if you need tirz to cut while using gear you are probably a pussy ngl. whats wrong with your current cut? losing too much muscle? not feeling strong?
recomp can be dodgy. its kinda relying on the gear to just magically do the shit you want it to. if you have a goal, like cutting fat, id just use it as a cut cycle and get there fast rather than crossing your fingers and hoping you can eat at maintenance and recomp to your ideal body.
i dont know your experience with gear but that stack could certainly still get you muscle in a cut if you aren't pushing your genetic limit too far already.

>>76367456
>not everyone can afford or wants to pin HGH every day

We need a modern FRAUD guide, something reddit free

Main testosterone types

Testosterone Propionate
Every other day (EOD) Fast-acting, often used in short cycles or cutting

Testosterone Enanthate
1–2x per week Most popular long-ester, used in bulking or TRT

Testosterone Cypionate
1–2x per week Similar to Enanthate, common in the US. slightly longer half life

Testosterone Sustanon 250
2x per week Blend of 4 esters, designed for stable levels. not generally recommended due to the unreliability of the mixes

Testosterone Undecanoate ~20+ days (injected)
Every 10–14 weeks (TRT) Very long ester, used medically in TRT injections. nobody uses it except for TRT. One injection every few months can be tempting for normies

>>76366860
The bottles I got are >>76363537 so I think they are reusable. I pinned one full vial in my glute about 2 days ago as per instructions and I feel a bit more irritable and a bit more mentally sharp, also have more drive to go pick up heavy things and put them down. Libido is still not really there.

What exactly am I supposed to be looking for for optimal dose effects?

>>76367693
I did not know about undecanoate. Slowly falling test levels over the course of multiple months sounds fucking HORRIBLE. I feel kinda lousy just the day before my 2x/wk test E injection

>>76368041
better doctors do monthly injections, and get far better results

>>76367994
Got prescribed trt the same way you did, had no idea what I was doing and was in the same boat as you. The vials are reusable and 200mg/2wks is gonna make you feel like dog shit.

>buy 1ml syringes on Amazon
>buy draw needles (I use 18g 1”) so your injection needle doesn’t get dulled by the rubber cap
>buy injection needles (I use 25g 1.5”)
>all of this shit should say “Lauer Lock”, which means the needles can be twisted off and onto the syringe
>buy alcohol prep pads
>split dose up to 50mg (0.25ml on the syringe) per injection, totaling 100mg per week
>inject twice a week
>prep pad the top of the vial before putting the needle in if you wanna be autistic
>prep pad yourself before putting the needle in always
>select appropriate area, in my line of work we use delts and ventrogluteal, these are the best imo, just don’t sink an entire 1.5” needle into your shoulder like a retard
>look up the Z-Track method for IM injection and use that
>pushing a little air into your muscle won’t kill you but try to get all the air out of the syringe before pinning yourself
>aspirate (pull plunger out) before pushing liquid to ensure you’re not in a blood vessel
>if you are, new needle, start over
>push liquid slow, when you’re done leave it in place for a few (10-20) seconds to stop the oil from leaking out when you withdraw
>rotate injection sites frequently to minimize soreness in 1 location
>research which labs you need and push for them, doctors are retarded when it comes to this shit and at some point you will probably switch to UGL to avoid dealing with them anymore

This is the best advice I can give you. Good luck and cover yourself if you’re sleeping in public bc you will wake up harder than ninja gaiden.

>>76368090
>Lauer Lock
are the syringes different or just the needles?

>>76368105
Luer* sorry I just woke up.
It’s for syringes and needles, it just means you can screw the needle on and off so they’re not fixed like the ones the pharmacy gave you. If you search luer lock syringe on Amazon the BH 1ml ones are the first to pop up I think, it’s like 20 bucks for 100 and they’re fine. I have the careach needles. You can buy whatever brands you want, the luer system is supposed to be compatable across every brand.

>>76368121
so the site i use in my shit country. the needles say

"Compatible with Luer Slip & Luer-Lok Syringes"

in that case i should but the Luer lock and they will be the twist on ones? I havn't used twist on ones for years, my old doctor sold me one piece needles but he retired

>>76368121
>>76368159
more information

1ml Luer Slip syringes are $25 for 100, luer-lok 1ml is $94 for 100... but the 2ml luer lock sytinges are $18.71 for 100... waht...

>>76368170
I believe luer lock needles are comparable with luer slip, they just slide on the end of the syringe rather than screw. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong. 2ml syringes should work fine as long as they have the same hash marks for measurement.

i need to get abs by december 17 should i run a test/tren/masc cutting cycle? i'm probably like 200 5'10 but i wanna keep my gains

I only have ~1.5ml of test left and my brother says I should take .5ml of his tren to make it up. Is this a bad idea? Should I do that or just do the 1.5ml until next week?
I haven't taken tren before.

>>76368529
taking tren once wont do shit. dont bother

>>76367601
Current cut is working just very slowly probably need to eat less. I was way too fat when I started I guess I still look like shit after losing 8-9 kilos.
And for my mental sake I need to make some strength progress in the winter I can't just cut for a year straight non stop making PRs and getting stronger is my main goal.

>>76368170
Slip tips won’t work. The needle will fly off as soon as you put too much pressure

Reading half these posts makes my head hurt
wtf is happening to fraud

>>76361713
never heard of anyone having any kidney issues on anavar, especially at lower doses, or liver issues for that matter

>>76369071
fraud is pointless.

No advice, no information, aggressively misinforming people, nobody actually discusses anything here

this thread is actually worse than r/steroids, and that's an atrocious website

>>76369133
You think the brownoid plague finally hit us?
Because goddamn the avg post IQ seems to have dropped significantly
I suppose we always had the trtfags, low dose queens and uppity sarm zoomer niggers but those have degraded to even lower levels of drooling retard then just a few threads ago too
Anyway, I think I'm gonna add a dedicated arm day to this blast, bench and arms in general are lagging behind on PRs
Probably 8 more weeks to go and I'll actually be glad to cruise for a bit after 2bh

added ret to this cut (+just cruise dose of test). slowly titrating up to full dose, started at 1mg this week: didn't feel SHIT. I expected it too because I respond very well to even just .5mg sema. hopefully 2mg does something.

https://youtu.be/nzKChI14l_g
>31:25

what is the best option for cutting? long walks like 2 hour walks vs 30 minutes stationary bike
running classic test tren mast

>>76369932
a caloric deficit

It's really hard to get steroids in my country.
So, I was wondering if, till I get my hands on them, I can boost my gainz by taking PCT medication like clomdi and nolvadex?
They will help raise natural test and boost my gains even if little, right?

berberine prevents tiddies. I don't know why. there are some ~studies~ that show it acts like a serm. but I blast ment and normally chug ralox, and this shit just totally prevents the tiddy growth. it's better than ralox. every time the tiddies start getting hard, i just take a lot of berberine and then I'm good. if I keep taking it, I can totally crash my estrogen. this shit is stronger than arimidex, I don't understand how this is possible lmao

>>76370283
I will say that test doesn't seem to be nearly as affected by berberine as ment. this is some kind of ment thing. but I'm taking 200mg ment a week (plus other shit) and I take zero AI, just berberine.

>>76368041
pinning small volume once a week is unmatched for convenience

>>76369647
The therapeutic doses for those drugs are not the same
Reta goes up to 12mg in the eli lilly study if I remember correctly
You might want to read a bit more about shit you inject into your body before yoloing a random amount into yourself and hoping for the best
picrel is you

>>76370941
what do you think "slowly titrating up to full dose" mean you fucking mouthbreather

>>76370941
what do you think "slowly titrating up to full dose" means you fucking mouthbreather

>>76369647
i started at 2mg, didn't really feel it until i moved up to 4mg a week. struggling to eat enough.
>>76370941
doofus or crab post.
it's funny seeing people on glp1s hating on steroid use, and seeing people on steroids hating on glp1 use. two sides of the same coin.

What can you tell me about CJC-1295 (no DAC) + Ipamorelin???

if im only training lower body and im on pioglitazone and albuterol, is 2 sessions a week enough? or do i need to do more?

I'm reading about mk677 this morning. Most of the comments I see about it are either complaining or praising it for shooting your appetite through the roof and making you sleep really hard. Those are really my two biggest problems right now. Is mk677 as effective as they say or is this snake oil?

>>76371859
i hear as a GH med its pretty shit desu

>>76370201
Anyone?

>>76372024
i see bone pain in your future anon

>>76372025
Why so?

>>76372029
you kind of need aromatase

>>76372029
>>76372044
sorry brain crossed wires for a moment. comid works by flooding the body with muted ERa signalling estrogens. you need ERa signalling for bone health, among other important things.

>>76372047
So, I need to take something else along with clomid and nolvadex?
How to people go on pct after everry roid cycle then?

>>76372068
anon, the only thing that can counter that is bioidentical estrogen
are you wanting boobs, soft cheeks, and thick thighs to go with those muscles?

it works on PCT because its only for a short period after actual roids. if you try to do just those it might actually cost you gains.

>>76372086
So how to people in pct deal with it?
Or are you saying that its better to take roids and not caring about post cycle therapy let alone taking those pct drugs without a cycle?
>>76372090
afaik, the reason they are used during pct is to help bring natural test back up after using anabolics. So, if I use them by themselves, shouldn't they help elevate my natural test jsut a bit? Is what I was getting at.

>>76372198
yes, but you should understand that estradiol in a sense is the primary sex hormone of humans. in both sexes, parts of the body are differentially responsive to androgen signalling and theres differing levels of hormone secretion, but all parts of the body require estrogen signalling, predominantly ERa signalling. this is especially true for your bones.

PCT has its place, as PCT. it is not a roiding substitute.

>>76372198
>>76372090
>>76372230
i do have a suggestion for you though: you should take a serious look into ecydysterone and turkesterone. they dont work for everyone, and for some people one will work but not the other, but theyre basically the safest anabolic out there in terms of endocrine impact and when they work they absolutely do work. they are unique in that they work via ERb, not the AR, so they do not impact male gonadal function at all.

>>76372090
pct is for people who's been doing roids for years for a 5 months cycle youll be just fine without just kinda moody

Do I take nolvadex after the cycle or during? I'm about two thirds of the way through the cycle and started panicking about gyno. I don't know if I should take it now or wait until the cycle is finished.

>>76369354

>suppose we always had the trtfags, low dose queens
those are legitimate viewpoints at least. I've seen good arguments for not going over 200mg of test, and using other things instead like Tren

>uppity sarm zoomer niggers
that's a mental illness, trypanophobia

Why do I feel great and /fit/ on creatine HCL but bloated and weak on creatine memehydrate?

>>76372632
salts absorb better

ecdysterone works but it's somewhat weak compared to anything androgenic
i'd suggest 200mg/day if you decide to do it
don't bother with turkesterone, it barely works in studies
>>76372503
take an AI then do nolva after cycle nigga

>>76372722
Shit. Now I worry I've waited too long to start the AI. I have about 5 weeks of the cycle left.

Will run 350mg Test and tren /wk as long as I can (seems like 40 days). Hopefully bro from China didnt scam me and I'll have years worth of tren, test, and eq soon.

>>76372733
usually people take their ai on pin days -- so twice a week
>>76372770
years? did you get raws? i'll cross my fingers for you....

Anybody have any experience with any of these peptides? I’m gonna pull the trigger on this cycle. I’m also running 250mg test/200mg NPP a week

>>76371352
did you do 2-3-4 or 2-4?

i thought everyone used tren
why wouldnt you use tren if you were gunna roid?

calm my needle fears, /fraud/. anyone can pin themselves weekly, right? it's safe? if I learn how to do it right and keep my equipment clean, I won't shoot air into my veins and kill myself or something, right?

>>76373290
aren't you supposed to start slow and ramp up to the more intense stuff

>>76373390
as long as you inject at a 45 degree angle or greater you have zero chance of hitting skin or veins

>>76373390
anon, its not that hard to inject steroids
we have a whole board full of people who do that shit every 3-14 days

>>76373476
>skin

>>76373715
injection angles less than 15 degrees are intradermal

do the needles come with like a little guide or something to help you line it up right or do you just freehand that shit

what's the actual reason roids are so taboo and more regulated than tranny pills?

>>76373928
people think steroids = cheating at sports
and as we all know, sports are the last place in america where men follow the code of bushido

>>76367994
word. they are reusable then but pinning 200mg every 2 weeks is still too spaced out. I'd try to pin more often while still keeping weekly dose at 200mg.

200 is likely overkill imo. i personally require 200 but thats because im a low responder to test. i feel like you could easily be supraphysiological on 200 especially since your doc isnt doing bloods, which is crazy.

Its hard to determine the "optimal effects" for each person. Obviously being on an unhealthily high dose can "feel" very good, but isn't sustainable long term.
You should feel more more confident, level headed, motivated, maybe even less intimidated by others.
Physically you should feel stronger and more energetic, and should be able to summon more drive at the gym.
Ideally, you'd go to the lowest dose possible where you still feel these effects.
Libido will come, give it time.
Also, keep track of potential aromatization. Sensitive/puffy nips? Emotional instability? Excessive bloat and water retention? All signs you are aromatizing too much. You can either take a tiny dose of an AI to compensate or reduce test dose.

>>76372068
either take enclomiphene (not clomid) or HCG, no AIs no SERMS ( i know enclo is technically a serm but whatever), just keep it simple, the test boost from either of those two compounds wont be anought to warrant aromatase inhinbitors or serms

>>76368170
what fucking country you live in? 94 dollars for 1ml luer lock syringes? you can get them on amazon for 16 bucks.
>>76369354
its because all the new blood is realizing that any physique you need to run serious cycles to get is incredibly unattractive. people know that the most attractive physiques don't require running anything more than 500 test and some cutting agents.

and yes, we all lift for women. stop lying. even if you dont think you do, at some level it all comes back to the preferences of women.
>>76372238
>genuinely shilling turkesterone and other overpriced retard on fraud
>>76372632
not gear related at all. why dont you ask the QTDDTOT for something like this?
>>76373390
to be fair, the sides are gonna be just as bad whether or not you've done other shit. as long as you do your research i dont care if someone wants to start with tren and anadrol or some shit as long as they know the consequences.

>>76348341
Training on gear is more motivating but phyiscally harder.

Well it is for me anyway. The lower back, shin and shoulder pumps are agonising and I now have joint pain running test and anavar for the first time.

>>76373886
no, what the fuck do you mean a guide? you plant the needle into your muscle and push the plunger.
>>76373886
people hate masculinity now. its cool to reject your masculinity and troon out. its quite literally encouraged by the media and the healthcare industry, and our jewish masters.
>what about FTMs?
everybody including israel knows that FTMs aren't real men and can never be effective male leaders or fathers.
on the other hand, if someone wants to actually embrace their masculinity and get jacked and more physically capable, thats toxic and weird. theres something wrong with that guy. oh he's insecure and needs to compensate.
also in sports yeah people consider it cheating, but the reality is 90% of all athletes performing at the elite level in any sport are on gear. Anti doping commissions are a joke, though i will say it worked in baseball for some reason.

>>76349255
I also live in bongland. I wouldn't trust the NHS to do anything in a timely manner if at all.

Just buy test online and pin it yourself. Thats what I do. You can go the legit route and pay £100pm but I just buy mine off a grey market website with crypto (About £40 for a vial that will last 2-3 months) Much cheaper and same stuff. Pay for bloodwork separately if you are worried about levels. You'll still be saving loads compared to private treatment.

Source talk isnt allowed so I would never tell you to use steroidify.

>>76349255
i'd just do it myself then. you can buy bloods at your local quest or labcorp or whatever the fuck brits have over there for labs.

they're kinda expensive but if you need bloodwork so bad then there you go. although it really is as easy as starting with like 100mg and going up slowly till you feel good.

>>76374055
idunno i thought like yknow how when you go to get your blood drawn sometimes they have the little plastic thing they line up the needle with
listen man I just don't wanna fuck it up, needles are scary. i figure if any retard kid on tiktok can figure out how to do it and blow up there bench I can, though

>>76374177
trust me its easy man.
>select and identify injection location
>sterilize and insert needle
>is it inside the muscle?
>is there blood in the syringe if i aspirate?
>no? cool. inject and pull out and you're done.

>>76373237
2 - 3 - 4.

>>76369647
what the fuck is ret?

>>76348182 (OP)
i am 27, pretty normal physique and test level. is there any chance a TRT clinic would prescribe to me?

>>76350524
Ive legitimately been incapable of getting hard (earlier this year) when I started tren back up. Gave me anorgasmia and I didnt have any cialis left, two chicks, one I met in person, another I had bumble dates with one after another. I legitimately couldn't get hard. Still fucked them with a soft cock but apologized for the poor performance. Railed both multiple times after once I fixed my shit.
if you're a nice guy and you look good, yes you will absolutely meet with them again. First chick i met at a NYE party, got her number, we met at a coffee shop and later that day she devoured my whole dick like a succubus. 2nd chick got me into her room and just started taking her clothes off. It was actually kinda uncomfortable though ngl, never thought id say that about a woman who was so eager to fuck me. Felt like a piece of meat kinda.
>blog over

>>76374222
>sterilize needle
needles are already sterile

>>76374264
retatrutide?

>>76374268
No? Are you fucking retarded by any chance? Maybe they can prescribe you something for that.
>yeah i dont have any symptoms or signs i need this treatment and l look and feel good
>will you prescribe me the treatment anyway?
Maybe you lie about your symptoms and/or botch your test level by finding a way to tank it for the blood test.
Or you could just buy the shit from a UGL like everyone else, since you clearly just want it for non-therapeutic reasons.

>>76374361
sorry i meant
>sterilize injection area and insert needle

>>76354620
... vaginal atrophy?

>>76374527
like a dead leaf

been out of the market for a while, holy shit canadian sources have gone fucking insane with their prices. they're lucky I'm too lazy to deal with customs and brew my own shit.

>>76374038
>>genuinely shilling turkesterone and other overpriced retard on fraud
i wouldnt suggest it over AAS but anon is seriously considering doing clomid for gains...

>>76348182 (OP)
19yo here. Went to a doctor. Apparently hgh + ipa + tesa will work for me (an inch-3), i dont need it but its nice, apparently have super low estradiol, estrogen and some other stuff. How do i avoid organ growth on 4-6 IU of hgh? Rather than height my clavicles are also open so id like to add like 2 inches inbetween muscle and bone to my scapula, clavicles, and shoulders. Chatgpt says to avoid high doses of hgh for organ growth, how do i prevent this though. Framemaxxer.

>>76375060
zoomers are so retarded it's not even funny

Anyone have experience with DSIP (Delta Sleep-Inducing Peptide)?

>>76375060
Doing 4-6iu HGH ed isn't going to give you organ growth or the other extreme side effects. Triple that daily dose and maybe you will, 4-6iu you're fine.

>>76375042
i'd just tell him to stop being a retarded pussy and either take gear or stay natty doing nothing more than creatine. if you want to ride the middle then take sarms. as memed as they are they do in fact work and a helluva whole lot more than turkesterone.

ive heard conflicting answers about whether you can draw both test and hCG into the same syringe and inject at the same time. What do you guys think?

>>76375060
>chatgpt says
just shut the fuck up. even if you use chatgpt as a resource you dont just fucking say it like its some authoritative source. im not going to answer btw, retarded question.
>>76375069
im a zoomer and im nowhere near this retarded. he's younger than i am though.
i feel like my year was the last boat out before things got really bad. everyone younger than me is completely fucking cooked and useless. subhuman even.

>>76375094
desu i think there are other options but i get where youre coming from. im sure you can see the appeal of non-androgenic gear to at least some extent too.

>>76375096
>can i mix peptides in water and steroids in oil with the same syringe?
just draw another one is not that hard

>>76375091
8IUs it is then.

How sure can you be of what steroids will do to your hair. I've heard it only exacerbates MPB if you're already predisposed to it, and I've got really good hair genetics on both sides of the family.

>>76376226
Balding is 100% genetics

>>76376261
All the men in my family have had full heads of hair into their sixties. That means I'm good, yeah?

>>76348346
You’re a bit tarded but that’s okay
There is an all time high test level, the “baseline” you go to after and after your 30s it’s lowers about 1% per year however if you take care of your endocrine and work out you can feel and look better than most men your age. Many men have low test, many wars in recent years wiped high test high aggression men en Masse.
Yes microplastics this and poison that but you have to take a hard look at it.
Humanity lives unhealthy as shit

>>76365180
It is
they even did surveys on bb forums about this topic and yeah it’s propaganda

>>76376280
women are the enemy not men they carry the gen without any symptoms

help me frogs - I am starting a test+var cycle for the very first time. already fairly lean and have decent gains, looking to increase gains without adding tons of fat like a traditional bulk. recomping has been working for me already for a long time, pretty consistenly making gains without fat for over 2 years now but, on this cycle, should I ADD calories or stay the same? would I turn it into a turbo bulk if I ate more and got fat or would I be wasting a cycle without some extra fuel? thank you frogs.

>>76376620
Add more calories and push yourself in gym more than usual
Caloric surplus goes to fat less when on gear for a variety of reasons
Higher bmr, better nutrient partitioning, increased muscle protein synthesis etc
How much is debatable and probably highly individual so experiment with it for best results

>>76376737
thank you!

Love the UK NHS, finally getting TRT after 38 fucking weeks (they forced me to have an MRI to rule out a pituitary tumor), life have been shit, they chose 3 month injections over gel