Why are most gym dudes anti-intellectual dumbfucks who never read?

>>76351118 (OP)
I’m not.
But your question works in reverse as well.

>>76351118 (OP)
Why is your b8 so terrible?

Falce dichotomy. Lifting gives your brain such performance boost and is so vital for brain health, that anyone who doesn't lift, is an idiot.
In reality the left would also have a big head while the right one would have a small one.

>>76351118 (OP)
Reading is gay and takes too long :)>>76351396

>>76352118
It's too bad you don't actually use the performance boost to educate yourself though. You become consumed with "fitness" and spend all leisure time chasing "gains" and other nonsense notions.
It's a fitting stereotype because most meatheads are not very intelligent. There are the exceptions like Dolph Lundgren of course, but rare.

>>76351118 (OP)
Idk the stereotype made more sense back when people labored for a living. Nowadays fitness is a vanity luxury for most, just like reading, and the vast swathes of the majority just eat Cheetos and watch Netflix between shifts. Now “if buff then dumb” is more of a cope from layabouts that see clean eating and an hour of movement a day as an identity death and a tragedy, and while they pull the “every muscle is a language not learned” card, they’re still just watching Netflix.

>>76351118 (OP)
How much can your book bench? Dumbass

>>76351118 (OP)
It's not that, it's that after you achieve a certain level of physical strength, you realize that almost 70% of ideas from philosophy and literature aren't born out of wisdom but out of the inferiority and weakness complex of the people who make them and that most people who brag about pursuing academics aren't passionate about science or progress and they are miserable people who do all this act to simply "become rich" and prove something to someone

All of this would be fixed if the intellectuals got strong too, not even talking about weightlifting just them doing the just necessary to be healthy and feel confident and hanging all philosophers

>>76351118 (OP)
I have books read to me while I lift (audiobooks)

>>76352160
>netflix

It bothers me that people use that brand word instead of 'TV' now.
Do you actually subscribe to that service or do you just assume others do?

>>76352175
What's a TV?

>>76352128
Projection
I thought you were smarter than that

>>76351118 (OP)

>>76352173
>You now remember /fitlit/
For one shining day this website almost wasn't dogshit

>>76352189

>>76351118 (OP)
There's already a thread about this, faggot.
I have big muscles. You dont.
Every single one of you egghead geek nerds would trade your useless book knowledge for big muscles in an instant.
Not a single person with big muscles would trade it for useless book knowledge.
If I wanted to read a useless book by some gay foreigner I could.
You will never have big muscles.
Jannies can archive the thread now.

>>76352227
you sound insecure

>>76352244
lol checkout this dyel nerd I triggered.

>>76352251
this reply makes you sound even more insecure

>>76352259
this reply makes you sound even more triggered

ngl I'm pretty disillusioned about self-proclaimed "intellectuals" nowadays, they often range from smug fags who deride anybody who hasn't memorized a bunch of data about their specific niche (you don't know who Ilie Bolojan is? Do you live under a rock or something?) to academic cultists who just pander pop soience factoids (haven't you seen? Scientists say that all animal products give you AIDS, check out this one in vitro experiment they did).
Of course there's a lot of really smart people out there who are revered experts in their fields and who know exactly where they stand and what they can talk about with authority, but the best that the average Joe should aspire to is just being curious about the world and having decent general knowledge (already not as easy as it might seem), and at their leisure going into more detail in whatever they are passionate about.
But the age of the polyhedric intellectual is over, any given subject matter is so complex and so chock-full of information that even the brightest individuals will barely be able to become true experts in more than one, let alone in many of them like it used to be possible in the past.
If you aren't an actual genius you should never get too arrogant about what you presume to know, because as soon as someone will take you out of your bubble you'll be certainly found lacking.

it's a personality trait called 'need for cognition'.

people with a high need for cognition are unsuited to exercise because it's boring as fuck. these are your "intellectual" types who would rather read a book.

people with a low need for cognition are not inherently less intelligent, but they just don't enjoy thinking. if they have a choice between expending intellectual effort or not doing so, they'd choose not to do so.

simple as.

>>76351118 (OP)
trick question
it has nothing to do with gym, that’s most of the population

>>76351118 (OP)
Because it's popular. Anything involving a large number of people invariably entails the majority of them being tards imitating each other.

>>76352659
Reading books is more popular than going to the gym

>>76352696
people like to ignore how much mindless slop bookstores sell, they act like reading is some exclusive enlightened activity when any retard can publish his worthless drivel and sell like hotcakes nowadays

>>76352632
Everyone ITT besides this guy is a retard.

>>76351118 (OP)
I don't want to get a big head

>>76352759
aww don't call yourself a retard, you are trying your best!

>>76351118 (OP)
Average person is a retard. So average gym goer is also retard. Just look at /fit/. Barely anyone here has any reading comprehension and its full of powersharters who are proud of their 3 plate deadlift while being 300 pounds of body weight.

>>76351118 (OP)
Maybe in the 90s, but in 2025 with all the neurotic zoomers coming through who obsessively research every aspect of their diet and workout, often to the detriment of just getting shit done; id say gymgoers probably lean very slightly more intellectual than the average joe on the street. They just don't touch paperbacks, but Id say physical books are something of a needless indulgence in the age of kindles and smartphones.

>>76352175
I hold it in the same regard as McDonald’s or Walmart, it’s a brand that gets an idea across of what kind of consumption a person’s doing.

>>76352708
being in prison showed me how many complete junk books are out there
so much that im working on my own book

How do i fitlit?

>>76353426
read big books then lift them for reps
for motivation it’s about health and stimulating both the mind and body, i’m more jacked and well read than most people, though of course i don’t magically know how much people read

I listen to political podcasts when I walk in the morning and debates when I lift.

>>76351396
>But your question works in reverse as well.
/thread

>>76351118 (OP)
Why not listen to an audiobook?

>>76351118 (OP)
Reading is great, I just finished a few Goosebumps books and I'm starting the novelization of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie.

>>76353616
>admits to being stupid

>>76352128
Spending 6 hours per week in a gym is so time consuming. Tell us how you spend those 6 hours. What great things did you manage to acomplish? Do you ever rest, cuz gym an excellent low dopamine form of rest for your mind.
Looking at meatheads is idiotic. No intelligent person would start roiding to begin with. On top of that, compounds like tren are proven to cause a brain damage.

>>76352614
You can't study/read all the time. Most brightest minds had a habbit to walk for hours every day. Walking mindlessly in a park or forest same paths every day is more fun than hitting a gym? People need rest and gym is an excellent choice for their brain to recover from reading.

>>76351118 (OP)
Because fitness is a dichotomy. You either choose to improve your outer shell or your inner self. People who choose their outer self do so out of lack of intelligence, which starts an endless cycle, Because the people they surround themselves with - the other people with that mindset in that community are also into other kinds of stupid nonsense, which creates a feedback loop. It's why you don't see intelligent people injecting themselves with metylene blue and doing stupid diets like carnivore. Because once you get on the wagon that only your outer self matters, you can get sucked into all kinds of stupid stuff.

>>76351118 (OP)
Reading bores me :[

Not bragging. It's a disability. I read lots of articles online tho

L
>>76354184
What kind of articles do you read?

>>76354184
put your phone in another room and physically remove distractions and find a classic book you know you would have interest in based off what you liked in high school

>>76351118 (OP)
After reading the whole(ish) careers of (off the top of my head) Camus, Houellebeq, Nietzche, Stirner, Freud, Jung, Adler, Rank, Rogers, Huxley, Dennett, Campbell, Mcluhan, Chomsky, Dawkins, Asimov, Sagan, Clarke, Dick, Liu, Dostoevsky, Milton, Blake, Shakespeare, Melville, Steinbeck, Kesey, McCarthy, and Wallace,

..I grew bored and became comfortable in the knowledge that none of you faggots would ever catch up.

>>76354234
but it’s not a competition against others

>>76354242
Civilization is war, and cultivating consciousness is in fact, just like everything else, a scramble for advantageous position in the endless arms race that is life.

Reading is in fact a competition and you're all losing. Get your dick out of your hand and catch up, or don't.

>>76354254
let me guess, no wife or kids?

>>76351118 (OP)
>Why are most gym dudes anti-intellectual dumbfucks who never read?

But they're not - the ones any good at anyway.

What's worse is being a manlet and dumb - no offence meant.

>>76354234
*flexes a cep, mogs you, steals your girl, calls you a nerd bitch, she agrees*

>>76351118 (OP)
roids and low IQ's

t. /fit/izen that reads

>>76354295
Lol it's fun to pretend huh.

>>76351118 (OP)
cuz i dont like reading

>>76354093
ofc walking around is more enjotable than gymceling or reading

Try doing physics or pure maths at uni.
Your gains will be drained faster than the worst gains goblin you've ever met x1000 from the stress.

There is a magical place where inbetween where you can do all the physics and math and also hit the gym and get gains, but it is usually just maintenance you need to have gotten swole before starting on the brain drain.

>>76355602
For me it was kind of the opposite.

I got a pure math degree from a top 20 university, complete with—I shit you not—a perfect 4.0 GPA. I even took harder courses than I needed to by the end (graduate-level stuff that looked interesting). Got into a top professional school and continued to bust ass, ultimately lucking out and getting a really good career path locked in. Suddenly, I had way more free time and resources than when I was a student, so I started taking weightlifting seriously. Lo and behold, lifting and getting swole makes me happier than anything intellectual I ever did. Period. I appreciate the material comforts that working out my brain brought, but it brings me almost zero inherent joy.

For me, intelligence is a good way to make a living, but it’s not something I really want to use in my free time. I’m happiest as a himbo.

>>76351118 (OP)
I'm reading Dracula and The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde right now.
It's kind of surprising how a handful of writers have written some of the most well known books and stories in some genres or had an impact on pop culture.
Faulkner, Stevenson, Verne, and Matheson to name a few. Bradbury might be the origin of the butterfly effect, even though it's been referenced in other terms.

>>76355810
another super genius on fit

>>76351118 (OP)
Reading books only makes you intellectual, but not intelligent.
It's like putting on a muscle suit.
Gives you the look, but you aren't really strong.
Learn a skill, get a hobby, change careers.

Ancient humans brains were 10% larger than modern humans yet they never read a single sentence.
Explain that.

>>76351118 (OP)
>anti-intellectual dumbfucks who never read
You're wrong. They read plenty, they're just still anti-intellectuals because it's human to recieve information with bias. Reading is not enough, it requires practice to accept information as true despite anecdotal evidence.
It's only fair, most of history's understanding is brought on by personal observations. I encourage most of the people here to pursue a STEM field, I think lab experience would help many people tremendously.

>>76351118 (OP)
>reading about other peoples lives instead of living yours
>reading about life instead of living it

>>76351118 (OP)
My boy Socrates says you can suck on deez, faggot

>>76352272
>no u
project somewhere else dumbass
cope and seethe

>>76351118 (OP)
What does this post say

>>76356131
>no u
>you're projecting
You're literally projecting.
The fact that you spend so much time raging at an off hand comment on an anime pedo image board proves it hit a nerve

>>76355889
No one here is anti-intellectual.
They're anti-faggots-like-you who thinks he's an intellectual because he read books written by other people.
That's not really an accomplishment.

>>76356232
>It's only fair, most of history's understanding is brought on by personal observations. I encourage most of the people here to pursue a STEM field, I think lab experience would help many people tremendously.

>>76352614
>people with a high need for cognition are unsuited to exercise because it's boring as fuck

This is my problem.

>>76356258
Its the modern era just blast an intellectually stimulating podcast and do pushups until it hurts

>>76356283
You realize you can't actually retain information when you're focus is on exercising right?

So anyway invariably I just conclude people are delusional and give up. I'd rather sit here calmly on 4chin than be breaking my balls just to join the delusional class

>>76356289
Then just focus on exercising holy shit

>>76356297
You dont seem to get the problem here.

better to be dumb but fit as fuark than being dumb and DYEL like OP lmao

>>76356306
The problem is that you are unwilling to do something boring, right? Or unable?

>>76356314
Let me give you an example: if i lived in a log cabin and by necessity had to spend 1 hr every day chopping wood for my stove I would gladly spend that hour chopping wood and get pretty fit in the process. I live in a city however and do not need to chop wood. Can you suggest a similarly purposeful task that will improve my fitness?

>>76356332
chop up niggers with an axe

>>76356332
>I live in a city
NGMI

>>76356332
Improving your fitness IS the task. Just treat it like an engineering problem. A biological project. Once you apply that problem solving brain to it, it becomes addictive. Once someone notices you getting stronger, there's no going back.

You gotta just find the motivation somewhere. Maybe you want to prevent injuries as you get older. Maybe you want to be big and strong for primal manly reasons. Have better sex. Be able to go on long hikes without feeling weak and winded. You gotta just focus on the end result and follow through using the logical part of your brain, make a habit.

Alt answer- you might enjoy something like martial arts or climbing gym where you gotta focus more on the dynamic part of your actions. Challenging stuff that feels more meaningful than just lifting weights. Test your balance and coordination.

>>76356348
Overlook Hotelmaxxing

>>76351118 (OP)
Skill points wasted...
Most people that lift weights make their workout the only hard part of their day. All skill points spent. Then they just do random shit. Id be a lot smarter if I spent all my time that I used lifting on reading.

>>76351118 (OP)
Sounds like you're in disgusting poor people gyms.

>>76351118 (OP)
Because most books were written by retards who never lifted anything. Duh.

>>76356289
You absolutely can, unless you are retarded

>>76354093
>You can't study/read all the time
that's the point anon. some people can. not just can, want to. must. they have a NEED for cognition. if they're not actively using their brains at all times they suffer.

this doesn't mean nerding out on physics textbooks 24/7, but it means that their "hobbies" are things like autismmaxxing videogames or learning spit facts about birds. it just means that whatever they do, they are using all their brain all the time while doing it.

the problem with exercise is you just can't really do that. not only is exercise not cognitively demanding, it actively impairs your ability to cogitate. you can't read while jogging, for example. and even if you can, it gets boring after a day or a week or a year.

the point here isn't that need for cognition makes you unable to exercise. it's just to say that it's one of many factors that pushes people towards or away from exercise over a lifetime.

>>76356670
>they have a NEED for cognition. if they're not actively using their brains at all times they suffer.
sounds like a mental illness ngl

>>76356705
mental illness is defined by clinical significance (impact on normal functioning) above all other characteristics, so yeah. could be. but probably isn't.

>>76351118 (OP)
Heres a better question, you ever seen someone who wasn't a pseud or a cringe edgelord faggot use the word "intellectual" in a real sentence?

>>76356717
depends on just how strong this compulsion is I guess. What if I were to put a guy like that in a cabin in the woods with nothing to do? Would he be able to enjoy the peace and quiet at least for a bit or would he immediately start doing some autistic shit like picking up fallen leaves and arranging them by size, shape and color?
A constant need for cognition is probably what breeds super geniuses so I'm not trying to insult that type of person, but I don't think I'd like to be like that because it sounds exhausting

>>76356742
>A constant need for cognition is probably what breeds super geniuses
these geniuses then climb 10k hours in factorio or some shit building nothing of real importance

>>76356759
man I love factorio but I can't bring myself to play it after 9 hours of soul crushing office job, sometimes I envy the autists that can't turn off their brains.
As for your comment yeah most probably squander their brain power on useless shit, but I bet that the few ones that manage to focus their potential on something of actual importance can achieve great things

>>76356742
well it depends on the person, need for cognition is just one of many personality traits. it doesn't necessarily mean that they can't sit still and it doesn't mean that they /can't/ stop thinking, it just means that they prefer to think hard. the greater the need for cognition the more extreme this becomes until at the extreme end you get people who yes, are extremely incapable of just sitting and relaxing. they may not physically catalogue leaves or whatever but even if they're sitting there quietly they will be thinking extremely hard about whatever it is that they're thinking about, even if it's just ideas for factorio spaghetti or whatever. arranging leaves by size and colour would probably not satisfy need for cognition because it doesn't require a lot of thought, for example. but "why are some leaves one colour and other leaves a different colour? let's try and figure it out..." and coming up with theories and experiments to figure it out would be, if you imagine a world without internet. but that presupposes an interest in leaves or whatever, and need for cognition doesn't control what you're interested in just how you approach it.

in a gym context, high need for cognition might manifest as getting autistically deep in the research and tracking side of it.

if you think of IQ as 'speed of thought' and need for cognition as 'time spent thinking' you can see how high IQ and high need for cognition are multiplicative.

>>76356670
You can listen to an audio book while jogging. Can you find me at least a sibgle treat person who didn't rest at least for a few hours every day?

>>76356787
but how do people like this not tire themselves out? I get that the brain doesn't work like a muscle but it's still odd to me that some can make it work so hard for so long