So anon, since you spend so much time working out, you must be fit enough to do some light sparring, right? 12 rounds should be no problem for you since you're always in the gym...

i’d last 12 rounds with him in the bedroom

>>76355095 (OP)
This is imaginary scenario is why I train conditioning

>kick him in a kneecap
Nothing personal, since he should have worked on his knee strength.

>>76355098

that's gay and I dont think Canelo is gay

>>76355110

You're smarter than the 90% of dudes that just train weights.

>>76355172

He'd hit you with a left hook and break your face.

>>76355722
Pros like him get killed in the street fights. He is trained for specific restrictions set by rules. In a real fight someone would kick him in his temple, break his trachea or would just kick him in the balls. Or they would just come close to him and would stab him 10 times before he realizes what's happening.

>>76355110
I actually do conditioning as well but I actually play sports. It's kinda interesting that almost no one in the gym actually DOES any conditioning work like at all. Maybe you'll get the random guy or girl on that sprint treadmill thing for a minute or two but that's it.

>>76356287
indeed, it is actually an added benefit in a street fight to have zero combat training or experience
you're more of a wild card, the joker, if you will
without any training or knowledge of martial arts your body is free to give in to the forces of chaos and defy the laws that man has set
you're an absolute weapon, a dynamo, an unstoppable force
if you trained though, it would all disappear
you'd be cemented into the rigid confines of a man-made structure, losing your deadly unpredictability forever
same goes with lifting
if you've never lifted a weight you are actually stronger than a professional powerlifter, just think about those women who flip entire cars to save their trapped infants
facts

>>76355095 (OP)
>since you're always in the gym
what kind of person would assume that someone has good cardio just because they go to the gym?

>>76355095 (OP)
my workouts last about 30 minutes and I keep my heart rate up the entire time

>>76356353
Idiotic analogy. The better example: a powrlifter training his whole life to do deadlifts. Now outside of a gym he has to compete with a regular dude with zero gym training on a trail run. Who do you think will run faster?
Just look up how many pro fighters get killed in street fights against regular guys. Their skills are pretty much useless if they fail at knocking out the opponent with the first hit. If the opponent has any sharp object, a high chance they will be dead.

i'll try to knock him out with wild and reckless punches before i gas out

>>76355172
>>76356287
>>76356650

While I get where youre coming from you can easily be a pro at something and still be the guy that fights dirty or better yet just shoots a motherfucker instead of fighting at all

There's value in being able to handle yourself without resorting to under handed methods but more in knowing anything goes in the real world

>>76355095 (OP)
i unironically did this when I was like 25 and had plenty of conditioning, i just kept getting rocked by guys a few years younger than me that boxed since they were in diapers.

I mean like seeing starts for a few seconds after an uppercut through my guard. fuckers didn't know what light sparring was and didn't care it was my literal 2nd/3rd time sparring ever and neither did the coach so I quit going.

>>76356353
Kek

>>76356650

Knife is better than no knife but if they were both fighting for real the trained dude wins

That's like saying a skilled guy with a knife loses to a guy with a gun.

>>76356650
I could only find one example of a pro fighter who died in a street fight. Maybe you can find more?
Also are you saying that it is of negative benefit to be a trained fighter in a street fight? That's what it sounds like.

>>76355095 (OP)
12 is a lot. Depends on the pace. But I can crank out 4x4 minutes in judo no problem, and roll BJJ for an hour of 6 minute rounds.

I would like to think that Canelo would be gracious enough not to kill me and just do light work. His head movement is so good i probably couldn’t even touch him in 12 rounds if I wanted to

>>76356881

You went to a shit gym. Also that's why you go to gyms that focus on holding pads.

>>76358652

36 minutes is really tough. You can be in good enough shape to run a marathon and still be too tired to box for 36 minutes.

>>76355095 (OP)
>you go to the gym anon, surely you can run a 16min 5k, right anon?
>you do a lot of pushups man, 315 for reps on bench should be light work, right homie?
>you ran an ultramarathon anon, somebody with legs like yours should have no problem squatting 4 plates...
>oh you go to ju jitsu 3x a week? Go fight that 300lb dude at the bar then.
>you read to go to bed? Quote 100 books right now retard
Cancer and faggotry

>>76359979

You sound fat.

>>76356353
Don't fear the man who has trained a thousand kicks. Fear the man who has never trained.

I used to think I was pretty fit until I started training MMA. I could never once go three mins of light sparring. I started running to build cardio. Now all I care about is having a high V02 max.

>>76355095 (OP)
I drank a can of monster, the big one with the screw on lid, and went 22 rounds in a backyard boxing match against 5 others.
fitness is a meme when you have drugs.

>>76355095 (OP)
this roided mexican would lose to a fat guy in a leotard mounting him on the ground though

>>76356881
Hose were grown ass men bullying you imagine them pulling that shit on mike you gotta like break their face man thats absolutely fucked gotta get good fast

>>76355095 (OP)
I'm not trained in fighting, I do a different kind of fitness.
>Oh anon you're good at physics right? Well can you achieve a 100% yield on this chemical reaction?

>>76355095 (OP)
Idk if his boxing really translates to mma well, of which i earned my golden gatorade bong and an ounce of shake after defeating godoy bupkis the toughest guy in town.

>>76355095 (OP)
>12 rounds
Dude, I'm trained to fight. Been doing full-contact for more than ten years by now, and I don't think there's ever been a spar lasting longer than a minute. in fact, other than long-range stuff (dual sticks and staves, mostly), most fights lasted less than 30s before they were decided.

Fighting for X rounds isn't a thing outside of entertainment sports like UFC.

>>76355095 (OP)
How did deontay wilder get mad at charlie zelenof he was retarded, i just assume boxers are beyond comprehensibly stupid to be honest and its not that hes some god on this earth just that nobody wants to make their career gladiator.

>>76359979
Mario if he real

>>76361307
Remember pros only train against other elite level people, and in the street even lightweights and shit instantly ko people youre forgetting they wear 14oz gloves, ufc hw has more kos because of that.

>>76361315
Theres the boxer who got stabbed after beating up a bunch of people at a bar, he was 150ish? This was also in south america or something and id imagine the favela crooks arent exactly healthy good at fighting or smart.

>>76358504
nta, but kinda yes. being a trained "fighter" in a street fight, or any kind of full contact sparring, is a gross disadvantage. UFC and grappling arts like BJJ are the worst. They tend to grab on instinct, and if the grab a guy with a blade, that's usually the end of the fight.
Strikers (other than boxers) are comparable to untrained thugs in fighting strength. They tend to kick the moment the distance opens up, which can work, but often ends up with them on their asses and getting pounded into the ground.
Boxers are the one type of sport fighter I really hate sparring with, and clearly superior to untrained. They're vulnerable to destructions still, so a properly trained fighter tends to win, but if you can't get proper training, boxing is absolutely worth it.

However, someone actually trained for fighting (police, mostly, or military that don't subscribe to the "less-lethal options" bullshit the US military teaches ever since they stopped LINE) will always hold a massive advantage over the untrained, and a properly trained martial artist will generally still have a slight advantage over those professionals.
At least that's my experience from ~15 years of full contact, and training a few cops from the SEK (= German swat) and a lot of German and American soldiers.

>>76359979
mario if he real

>>76361321
The most effective muscle in a street fight is, of course, a gun or a knife. Or just staying away from those conflicts altogether.

>>76361315
>pros only train against other elite level people
Exactly. Fights get shorter the better you are.
>youre forgetting they wear 14oz gloves
For sparring? I'm used to doing sparring with less weight than actual fights, to improve reflexes.
>ufc hw has more kos because of that.
UFC mostly has more knockouts because it's heavily set up to favor grapplers, most of which have no idea about how to defend against strikes.

>>76356881
And ofc learn fughting not just boxing in case they gang up on you for reciprocating, you cant get braincells back and might be retarded into late life now. Its not like you need to be kod to get parkinsons.

>>76355095 (OP)
>12 rounds
did you just guess a number, Dr. shitposter?

>>76361342
Well what if someones being a complete dick and i have to argue with him while ramping up the volume and get up in his face, this is my bar. Or like someone slaps your gfs ass you just shoot him?

>>76355095 (OP)
no I'll die

>>76356650

The issue is "on the streets" guys use guns and knives. There are plenty of fighters fucking people up in fair fights.

It's funny how most people understand that they'd never beat LeBron in a pickup game even if it was "street hoops" but think they could beat a fighter in a "street fight" if they're not going to use weapons or have their friends come in.

>>76359979


mario if he real

>>76361346


Usually you spar in headgear to avoid cuts and bigger gloves (16-18 oz).

Also yes some sparring sessions are ridiculously long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d95SCuEyBqQ

>>76361357

12 rounds is the number of rounds in a championship fight. You really came here to be snarky when you're actually a complete retard.

>>76361383
But street fights are always friends jumping in + weapons (chairs,rocks,etc.)+ illegal moves (head-butting, groin kicks, biting, eye-scratching, head stomping).

>>76361417


Fighters have friends as well!

But that's the argument. You're not saying you'd actually beat them in a fight, you're basically saying you'd cheat and try to win that way. Also if the fighter can also use illegal moves you're fucked.

If it's just you and the fighter, mano e mano, no help, no weapons, you're fucked.

>>76356353
this is true. The Enkidu gambit applies to all skills, remain wild and untrained. The man in the cave does not defeat you because of rigid training, he defeats you because of primordial animalistic power

>>76361346
Well vs a good boxer they can do a lot of shit you cant with the gloves to actually wear you out, but it doesnt really work on someone like prime mike and if you were wrong hed have had a harder time instantly koing everyone. Idk how no boxer doesnt prioritize strength, i know its because their coach wants to get them fighting asap and lifting takes years and you cant be going that hard on cardio for best gains.

Ive been meaning to tape some fishing weights into my 16oz gloves or something. I also like double same hand training to practice being in the pocket, thats what mike was doing a lot and nobody looks as fast as him with full power punches uppercuts etc he kod/knocked down someone with it he had an afro. Do you spar with wraps? I like blocking and shit with an open hand and elbow and i just feels weird to have gloves at all.

>>76361424
There’s no such thing as “cheating” in a real fight. Fighting is whoever can destroy the opponent with violence by any means necessary. Combat sport is just that, a sport. It’s not actual violence.

>>76361383
Ive seen someone nail like 20 3pts in a row in jail, so at least maybe he could say that besides being shorter and probably less athletic but its not like tall people who played a lot of basketball growing up are gods on this earth. Im sure he could at least beat shaq since shaqs slow but he likes to bully players and play right up next to the basket but isnt agile.

>>76355172
He probably trains all martial arts or at least is fluent in them a bit, but is also a top athlete and on steroids tren to be exact.

>>76361368
If someone slapped my gfs ass i honestly dont even think id fight them desu, it just feels stupid. Maybe id go twist his nipples i guess or even spit in their face but then they get the first punch because they are too dumb to realize thats when the fight starts. Maybe go stand around them and blow smoke in their face or juke them out to make them flinch.

Honestly a good question.

Canelo is washed up

>>76361334
>UFC and grappling arts like BJJ are the worst
>15 years of full contact
sure bud
I'll keep training my "UFC" lol

>>76361444

No it's very much violence it's just controlled violence.

>>76361457


This just shows you don't know what you're talking about. Go watch that show where a shitty pro former NBA player plays former D1 and D2 basketball players. He wipes the floor with them.

There's a huge skill gap between the pros and even the very good not to mention regular people

>>76355095 (OP)

Is cardio the best way to win a street confrontation?

>>76362705

Yes. Being strong is pointless if you aren't condition

>>76361668


Dude is full of bullshit just humor him.

>>76360091
post body.

>>76356353
There's a book that was written back in the 16th century that pretty much says this. Many such cases where a trained warrior with technical skill and strategy is bludgeoned to death by an idiot savant with brute strength.
It boils down to being too caught up in your own mind strategizing whilst the brute who is literally mindless wins by sheer overwhelming force and natural ability.

>>76355095 (OP)
cm punk could beat him in one minute

>>76361233
yeah man 5th grade was wild

>>76356287
U AINT TRAINED 4 DA STREETZ

>>76366567


Yeah shit is so dumb like you're not beating a trained fighter around your size on the streets if you don't cheat. The whole "well it's a street fight anything goes" is just code for cheating.

>>76355095 (OP)
Im pretty sure i can 1shot anyone under 200 with like a stiff front hand

>>76367683

So a jab? You think you'd beat a pro fighter with a JAB