/fit/ what the fuck do I do. I started off as a fat bastard when I was young cause my parents were poorfag retards that ate the cheapest carb-laden goyslop imaginable. I was fat throughout highschool until i decided to learn why and how to change it. Was smart so I learned everything i could about how different compounds we use for energy interact with our cells and produce fat stores (like hfcs for example being a poison we put into everything, especially if you are buying cheap goymeal like my family was).

Ate VERY clean to a neurotic level, lost a fuckton of weight, learned about SS and lifted. Was at around 180lbs doing 1/2/3/4, then plateaued cause I was still on a lean caloric deficit and realized if i wanted to see my muscle i had to cut off ALL the fat i could beforehand. Did some nuts cardio, at one point was biking 3hr/swim 2hr/run 3mile/mild calisthenics in a day off 700-800kcal when i had time.

Im at fucking 165 (ate and lifted a bit cause i was DYING) and still look like this. I was previously at 157, and still looked like this. Lost lots of muscle, but maintained enough of it for the crazy amount i was cutting. (5'10" height)

How fucking much do I need to cut to stop looking like a fucking melted radioactive piece of human waste? I hate myself and curse my family and me for being fucking stupid every day of my life. I just want to eat again and get swole, but im at body dysmorphia levels of starvation and im losing my fucking mind here.

Should i just run a mild cycle at this point considering im at a dead end and diet like mad/lift to stop fat partitioning this way, or am I cooked like a christmas ham without surgery?

WAGMI? I doubt I will at this rate but i hope so. Any advice for a fucking moron like myself?

didnt read. shouldve not get fat in the first place

>>76359993 (OP)
this is what you get for getting fat, no refunds
but if you want actual good advice yes you will need 2 surgeries for gyno/loose skin and also you will need a shit ton of muscle to not look like a goblin which is only achievable by roiding, you are in a point of no return and you have no time to spend, you either get freakishly big and lean with steroids or you wont make it

>>76359999
damn quads of truth

>>76359993 (OP)
>I learned everything I could
>Should I do roids to fix loose skin

On the off-chance you aren't baiting, but simply retarded: surgery is the only option.

own that sarcophagus mr. sexy don't ever think about having that surgically incised

>>76359998
man i didnt fucking know, I was like 11-13 and was a fucking hamplanet cause I ate whatever my parents gave me. They hardly even raised me, just plopped me in front of a television and bought the cheapest carbs imaginable to feed a child with. I fucking resent the fact that I was that big, but I had no fucking idea. I really fucking didnt, and took matters into my own hands right after high school IMMEDIATELY after learning why. Too little, too late i guess.

>>76360005
Im talking a small cycle to fill in some muscle without having nutrient partitioning to extra fat. At least i might look like less of a fucking scrotum/

>>76360010
How is he holding them without opposing thumbs

>>76360018
You will never look aesthetic as a natty at that point of loose skin and gyno, also youd need another 10 years to even fill ur frame as a natty, this is why id just roid.

Fat people are literally playing the game being 5-10yrs behind any average skinny person, drastic measures are needed and we have the medicine for it today.

>>76360028
fucking hell, it really does feel like im playing a rigged game at this point. Ive tried everything, and i fucking hate the fact im even considering being not natty, i just wanted to lift and look like a regular fucking person. take my shirt off at the beach and what not, dont even care about the girls at this point, i just wanted to feel like a human being. FML

>>76360019
iron biscuits trainer

>>76360038
ye this world is gay as shit, anon, and i dont blame you because i had bad parents, mom and dad divorced and i was raised by grandma/grandpa aswell but my genetic wasnt so bad to the point where i got obese but i was a neet of 10yrs eating instant ramen, french fries and every slop you could imagine, for people like us to make it we must do everything it takes unfortunately we werent born as a rich chad with smart parents

>>76359993 (OP)
what was your starting weight?

>>76360054
230-240, somewhere round there. problem was, I was also just a fatty from like age 10-11 to 18-19 so it was a while that my skin and fat was like that before a DRASTIC change and cut.

>>76359993 (OP)
fuck this shit is so demotivating man this is my future too OP, I look exactly like you but even worse kinda cuz I still have a lot more belly and chest fat and a lot less muscle and I'm already at 161, I started at 236, I will never be able to go shirtless and I will never have a girl find me attractive lol, rope time soon

>>76360061
it looks ur were 400 lbs but 240 lbs youre cooked

>>76360062
dont rope just get on roids

>>76360018
What do you expect to fill, the abs? Or the gyno?

>>76360062
how is that possible youre not 400 pounds

>>76360018
roidin will fuck u up even more

>>76360082
Neither, just fill out some muscle and control my e2 with aromasin to prevent gyno (although im not sure what i have is gyno, i dont have any lumps or anything, it just seems like fat and skin) (ai img for reference)

>>76360101
how tf u look like that op? you were only 240

>>76360079
>>76360093
so what do i do here

>>76360106
Thats the same fucking question i ask myself all the time. I know I never went above 260, and last time I weighed myself as a fatty was around those numbers, so I have no fucking clue why this fat wont just fuck off. I think its just because i managed to cut so damn quickly, I was a literal animal with the cardio, just up for hours upon hours on an insane caloric deficit until my body couldnt handle it anymore and then id drink water, collapse into sleep for 10 hours and attempt it all again. At my height i lost about 5lbs approx of non water weight in a week. I ate the equivalent of a banana, a single chicken breast, and a cup of rice and beans while doing this.

>>76360079
that shits expensive, i wonder if i was better off just being fat atleast i would've appealed to some women, now i've probably removed them from the dating pool as well

>>76360124
how quickly did you lose the weight? idk how much it actually plays a role because i've lost 80lbs over 3 years now and i still look worse than you like i mentioned before

>>76360131
Very, think like a year. By the end though I was just a madman because i had time in the gym and my hormones were balanced because of proper diet/exercise so i just went crazy at the lower weight like something flipped a switch in me.

>>76360142
have you gotten laid since losing the weight? how do women react to your body?

>>76360146
yeah actually i have, but only cause my face is actually not bad at all. Nothing serious though, just ONS's as i havent really been focused on having a relationship at all recently. I just fuck with my shirt on lol, somehow hasnt come to the point where ive been forced to take it off as a skinnyfag. Havent gotten mad pussy or anything though, and my body is definitely is a huge reason i don't pursue it as much at all anymore.

>>76359993 (OP)
you can't fix your loose skin without surgery. your only option is to pack on muscle to fill it out, so ironically you're going to have to gain some weight. you might end up looking fatter again for a while in the short term but that's the price you'll have to pay.

>>76359993 (OP)
Don’t panic and wait a few months for your skin to catch up to your reduced body volume

>>76360710
i asked gpt and it said the same shit, is it really true the skin is just gonna end up getting reduced somewhat on its own? i know surgery is best but this does give me some copium if true