>removes all joint pain
I kneel...

like literally it doesn't hurt to bend my knees anymore

>>76360461 (OP)
How old or fat are you that you have arthritis?

>>76360462
only 26 but I'm a judofag and exploded one of my knees last year

You take collagen powder OP? Or some other way

>>76360509
yeah a scoop of the stuff Costco sells (20g) once a day
I mix it with some electrolyte powder to mask the taste

>>76360461 (OP)
Useless snake oil peddled by ketolards

Dont forget vit c, they work together.

I still have occasional joint pain for other reasons, but glycine supps made most of my pain go away. I used to have wrist tendinitis. It just completely disappeared.

We need to harass everyone until they start taking these supplements.

>>76360541
>snake oil
no retard
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10058045/
>Hydrolyzed collagen has been shown to contain biologically active peptides that are able to reach joint tissues and exert chondroprotective effects. There are preclinical and clinical studies showing the safety and efficacy of ingredients containing native type II collagen or hydrolyzed collagen.
also why are you bringing up keto it has nothing to do with this topic

>>76360461 (OP)
My friend has been telling me to buy collagen to fix my (partially) torn shoulder labrum and I have been forgetting to for five years.

>>76360524
Collagen powder shouldn’t have a taste. I worry about you Americans.

>>76360574
maybe taste is the wrong word
mouthfeel? I can't really describe it, but taking it straight with water like I take creatine is very unpleasant
it could just be my autism

>>76360461 (OP)
I've been taking collagen capsules and they didn't do jack shit for my tendinitis

>>76360577
how many total grams per day? you probably aren't taking enough

>>76360574
>Collagen powder shouldn’t have a taste.
It has a subtle taste, its not particularly strong and easily covered up with just about anything else, but when you add it straight to water you can taste it. Every brand I've tried has the same taste. I doubt I'm some sort of superhuman here that I can taste it and no one else can.

>>76360560
It's telling how all you posted was an extremely, extremely long-winded mechanism of action rant and not the actual clinical studies that it says exist.

>>76360590
It's 400 mg per capsule (1 per day)

>>76360849
Jej.You need to take them in grams, minimum 5g.

*casually btfos your globohomo supplement*

>>76360904
If it's not fish collagen it ain't shit. Eat fish skins instead.

>>76360916
Fuck off, Mohammed

>>76360923
>has a problem with eating fish
Fuck off, deep water jew

>>76360593
I think it tastes a bit like vanilla.

>>76360712
it's telling how you think two sentences is long winded and are apparently incapable of clicking a link, and looking a few paragraphs above the quote I posted to find the clinical studies referenced
I'm going to be extra charitable and post them for you:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1185/030079908X291967
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9232232/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4015808/
https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/13/2/523
eve
I got a bonus for you too! There's at least one study linked in the very first article I posted that did not find a link between collagen supplementation and reduction in joint pain. Can you find it? I know you're mentally retarded but I believe in you buddy!

>>76361117
The sample size of the first link that you posted was 96 people and operated on self-report, So I didn't even bother looking at the rest of the studies. If you have any actual evidence rather than tiny sample sizes and shoddily conducted, self-reported nonsense, feel free to post them otherwise this conversation is over.

>>76361128
wow look at you! you managed to read six whole sentences of sciencetific literature! I'm so proud of you anon! It's okay that you got the sample size wrong, number are hard and you were only off by one! I understand that you don't want to read anymore, this must be very mentally taxing this is for you :)

>>76360574
>>76360576
>>76360593
If we're talking about gelatin (which is partially hydrolyzed collagen), the brand I take has no taste at all (I add it to plain water). I've tried three brands and the other two tasted like poison. I assume this is due to quality.

>>76361166
We're not talking about gelatin. If we were talking about gelatin, we'd be talking about gelatin. But we're not talking about gelatin. We're talking about collagen.

>>76361263
>We're talking about collagen.
Gelatin IS collagen, like I said. It's just less bioavailable.

>>76361270
Yeah, so like I said, that's not what we're talking about.

>>76361271
He, okay fine, but I doubt complete hydrolyzation changes the taste significantly.

>>76361291
How scientific

You should take collagen or glycine before exercise if your goal is to improve collagen synthesis in connective tissue. That kind of tissue does not have a high metabolism, so the best way to get nutrients delivered to it is to increase its blood flow.

I'm taking 40 grams of liquid collagen a day but my knee still hurts when I squat. Guess it couldn't fix it. Gonna have to stop squatting.

>>76361413
does it hurt with bodyweight squats? Or just weighted
if not, continue doing bodyweight/light weight squats occasionally to keep blood flowing to the area. If you just stop them entirely you will heal much slower, this anon
>>76361372
is correct

>>76360461 (OP)
yep and shitposters will say otherwise, ac tear 2 years zero pain now since starting collagen.

>>76361421
Only with weighted squats.

>>76360574
The orgain brand has a slight like taste like wet dog smells to me. My wife wouldn't even try it a second time. The one Costco sells in the paper tube has less of a taste but it's still there.

is there any actual proof that collagen is properly absorbed when ingested orally and the body can actually use it

>>76361927
there are already several studies posted in this very thread showing oral collagen supplementation at 5-10g daily reduces joint pain compared to placebo in both older populations with arthritis and young people with exercise related knee pain
just fucking READ

I have been eating zero sugar jello 3-4x a week with a boatload of red fruit. Especially with the warm weather it is a great 300 kcal snack.

>>76362099
>jello was actually good for you the whole time
RETVRN

>>76360461 (OP)
I regret buying collagen. Waste of money.

>>76362099
>>76362113
>Jello
Just don't think it contributes anything more than slightly to glycine/collagen intake. You would have to eat a brick of jello for it to be a significant source.

>>76362099
An entire pack of this stuff has about 2 grams of gelatin. It's useless. Also, how are you eating 300 calories of fruit at once that's nuts?

Placebo, like nofap

I use bone broth powder and pic related.
It's more preventative though, but together they are definitely making me better. Or rather, restored me.

>>76360461 (OP)
The magic combo is type 2 collagen, lysine and vitamin C. They work together to synthesize collagen better than collagen on its own. My shoulders used to be fucked now they’re bullet proof

>>76360576
It doesn't taste but I know what you mean even hydrolyzed collagen doesn't really mix well so it feels sorta chalky