>you only need 5 to 6 hours of sleep a nigh-
ACK

>>76364937 (OP)
>sleep "research" meme yet again
When will people realize that sleep is personal to your own body and its requirements. Some people can survive on 6 hours a night whilst others need 10, there is no one-size-fits-all for it.
Not to mention external factors such as diet and physical exertion throughout the day plays into it too.

>>76364937 (OP)
You must not be a super-sleeper:
https://www.livescience.com/health/sleep/rare-genetic-mutation-lets-some-people-thrive-on-just-4-hours-of-shut-eye

Sucks to be you.

I am tired all the time

>>76364957
No, its not.
If you remove sleep in time, you are looking at 7 to 7,5

Less is long term dangerous
More means you are sleeping too poorly to finish in 7 hours, unless its related to muscle strain
The final pill of Copium is always going to be to not claim to have UARS or Apnea, when it always is

>>76364937 (OP)
I look like this and I sleep 8 hours

>>76364957
>When will people realize that sleep is personal to your own body and its requirements. Some people can survive on 6 hours a night whilst others need 10, there is no one-size-fits-all for it.
>Not to mention external factors such as diet and physical exertion throughout the day plays into it too.
The points are following
1) People are pushing sleep to be something unnecessary, even a sign of weakness. Especially by (wannabe) successful entrepreneur and the like who either sacrifice their health or more likely have a genetic marker that is associated with radical less sleep duration requirements.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Familial_natural_short_sleep
2) People simply ignore their body's (and hence their own) sleep demands and think it is cool to pull allnighters, to scroll on their smartphones in bed untill 1 am while the alarm rings at 6 am and so on.
Having good sleep hygiene (no screens in bedroom, bed only for sleep, sex and sickness, stuff llike that) is considered stupid, unnecessary and "someting for old people"
3) Time frames for "optimal" or "normal" sleep are getting thrown around all the time and people believe, that each individual can be pressed into a very narrow banded norm (for example the 8h sleep myth is more like 4 - 9 hours with ONE sigma!).

Sleep research is kinda recent compared to other medical and psychological fields and does get kind of the same treatment as nutrition:
Everyone knows their diet is SHIT, but no one - not even the government that makes drugs illegal. because of "people's health" - does something to actively support a healthy lifestyle.

>>76368340
I don't get the point of your post. Points 1 and 2 are irrelevant because they are talking about the kind of person who either doesn't post on /fit/, who has 0 idea about their own health and body and how it works, or has no idea about the impact of sleep.
I'm not stating sleep is useless, just the "required amount" of 8 hours is something that too many people try and abide by like its one of the 10 commandments when sleep can be boiled down to, like diets, something that your body will tell you when it needs, and when its satiated with (naturally waking up with no alarms).

Me saying people can survive on 6 hours a night, isn't me saying "yeah bro sleep less so you can hustle more and make that dolla dolla". I just mean that 6 hours total is when some people will naturally wake up, and this is with following an actual bed-time routine, no screens, lowering your heart rate before bed, and adequate temperatures and noise+light levels. Purely the hours slept is just the changing variable which is what OP opened his thread with

>>76368440
You are a deluded shithead buying into the grift.

Sleep issues are very simple:
1. Are you abusing caffeine or any other stimulants?
2. Is your sleeping environment separated out from noise?
3. Do you go to sleep at MORE than 3h deviation? Bed time != sleeping time
4. Do you have allergies? Mites? Pollen? Animal Dander? Exposed to fungi?

If the answer to all of these are No, and you are not waking rested each morning, you have UARS or Sleep Apnea. No ifs or buts.
It is really that simple.

>I just mean that 6 hours total is when some people will naturally wake
No. Just doing 5k steps is enough to increase the sleep debt far far beyond that.
6h rested requires you to spend the day inside your apartment, don't get exercise, eat very lightly, and don't get proper mental stimulation.

>>76364937 (OP)
Hey, thats my mom!

>>76368519
You see, I would have read the rest of your post but flaming me for no reason means I don't care too and I'm right. Impossible to get any discussion online without people getting emotionally charged and having to be 100% right!

My sleep hygiene sucks and I always have a screen on
I try to make it a tv screen playing a quiet video of a streamer I like, Instead of doomscrolling on my phone right in front of my face. Because i thought being farther away from my eyes and being a lower brightness and providing some minor noise might be better than scrolling my phone.
Idk if they're actually really any different though