Is this achievable natty? How many years will it take?

>>76371340 (OP)
Lol no, you can't get that vascularity while being natty, that plus roid skin,chest hair and mild gyno.

>>76371340 (OP)
Yes you can be fat while natty
Bro just found the perfect angle and lighting

>>76371382
Dude looks like a fuckin superhero. I wanna look like this. Do you think his muscles are too big and pumped to be natty?

>>76371340 (OP)
Probably like 2-3 years consistent training. Looks like a pump and the angle helps.

It’d be sad if it wasn’t a natty body because it’s definitely attainable natty

>>76371388
Honestly that arm vascularity at that bf% is kinda sus

>>76371403
With a pump? Absolutely not

>>76371403
Idc so much about the vascularity but I want to have those shoulders, bis, forearms, pecs and adonis belt. Also can my hands get big like that from lifting or will I always be a handlet?

>>76371437
Yeah that absolutely is. But your hands can't get bigger cause there's no muscles in there

>>76371440
My hands are trump small fml

>>76371340 (OP)
aiming for that body
>tfw at least 3-4 years away
feels bad man

>>76371382
Fake natty delusional. Only Roiders have the bicep and forearm veins. Roid trannies will disagree.

>>76371471
Jesus Christ this has to be troll. I’ve never seen the standards here so fucked up. Literal skinny DYEL’s can have vascular arms with a pump

This guys clearly taken the pic with a pump and a fraud angle

>how long will it take
Who fucking cares? You're gonna be here for years anyway. Do you want it or not?

>>76371440
>no muscles in the hand
Why do the ignorant always speak?

>>76371514
>no bro literally nothing can be done. My friend Dean said he read an article once that said there’s no muscles in it. You also can’t weight over 180lbs without roids bro. Dean said so and I’ve been lifting for a few months

>>76371514
>>76371521
Have you ever heard of anyone training their fucking thumb muscles nigga

>>76371533
Literally yes you paki brained cunt. Look at arm wrestlers and climbers

>>76371533
well stretching and exercising your thumb muscle is easily the best way to prevent carpal tunnel soooo yeah i've heard of a lot of people who strength train and stretch it.

>>76371490
The standards here are just everydamnwhere. I've been called everything. The whole range. From brown manlet to chad. Underweight twink to fatass. Both dyel and roided.

>>76371539
>>76371544
Still that's clearly not what bro meant when he said he wants bigger hands, the majority of it doesn't have muscles

>>76371340 (OP)
Yes

Anyone who says otherwise is a weak fag

>>76371533
Have you never pulled a barbell or your bodyweight?

>>76371550
>thumb muscle is part of hand
>thumb muscle can be made higher
>hand in turn can be made bigger
>???????

Lmao what a dumb faggot

>>76371553
That mainly uses the forearms
>>76371558
>let me aggressively misunderstand your point and pretend like you're the stupid one

>>76371367
You have bad genetics

>>76371561
I’ll just let you keep talking like a DYEL. You’re doing enough to damage your own points

>>76371550
Stop playing dumb. Only the fingers aren't surrounded by muscle and those get thicker anyway because your body stores more fat in them the more you abuse them (the yellow part in the image).

>>76371565
>>76371566

>>76371454
I feel like you just need to lose some body fat. Nice lats though

>>76371566
>No bro that’s impossible to train. Lifting things with your hands actually uses your shoulders more

There’s no getting through to retards like this mate

>>76371570
lul
>>76371575
I don't mind. I'm not doing it for him. I'm doing it for lurkers like me when I was younger with small hands and big dreams.

>>76371340 (OP)
Like 6 years.

>>76371367
The vascularity in the pic is 100% natty
I look like that as straight up fatty

I'm sorry guise I didn't want my thread to turn into this. I just don't want to be a fat ugly weak bastard anymore so OP image inspired me to start lifting, losing weight and building muscle.

>>76371340 (OP)
Dunno but I like his forearms