Is ketchup unhealthy for gains?

>>76371833 (OP)
it usually has sugar in it.

>>76371833 (OP)
It looks like blood to raise appetite. Beyond-burger is to burgers what ketchup is to blood.

>>76371837
And?

>>76371855
sugar is bad retard

>>76371833 (OP)
I don't get it. What am I meant to eat on my eggs, french fries, or mac and cheese?

>>76371857
Sugar was created by God.

>>76371833 (OP)
Can't stop me I'll enjoy 'chup when I want it.
And you can feel as smug and superior as want in your childless home with your cold sores and female alopecia.

>>76371833 (OP)
>toon avatar
>influencer
>25
nothing more childish than trying to be grown up. anyway i prefer mustard, make your own, its only mustard seeds, salt, water, vinegar and stick blend together

>>76371880
heroin was also created by god
he meant for you to reject certain pleasures, as a test of will

>>76371857
Oh man, a whole teaspoon. I guess I'm gonna just get diabetes now.

>>76371855
The sugar is in quantites too high for healthy macros.
Also ketchup just covers the flavor of everything. That's why autistic faggots in /ck/ love it so goddamned much.

>>76373442
>>76373394

>>76371880
God created niggers and jews too faggot. Maybe God is a fat retarded piece of shit that made a bunch of awful things and mixed them together to make even worse shit.

>>76373394
Look at all that protein holy fuck.

>>76371833 (OP)
>losers who sit around watching cartoons and star wars all day wont use ketchup because "its for children"
lmao this fucking place

>>76373442
>The sugar is in quantites too high for healthy macros.
why do only skinnyfat dyels worry about shit like this?

Why dip or sauce anything? Little bit of ketchup or marinara sauce is gonna be better than fucking Alfredo sauce or ranch by miles.

>>76373394
This. Who cares what kind of ratios it has when you're consuming a fucking spoonful of it. It's a condiment. Unless you're literally a precontest bodybuilder there is no reason to worry about condiments.

Not to mention anything you're putting it on is going to be vastly more impactful than the ketchup itself. If you're eating french fries anyway no reason to abstain from the ketchup because shaving off 1% of the total calories in that meal isn't going to make a difference

>little sweet
>little acidic
Ketchup is fine when used sparingly the issue is that retards smother their overcooked garbage in it
like any sauce the calories it contributes in a meal should be practically negligible otherwise you're using too much

>>76373526
Based regionalist

>>76371833 (OP)
It's only good with breakfast stuff.

>>76371833 (OP)
ketchup is like 10x less calorie dense than any sauce you can find and has very few ingredients

of course skinnyfat normgroid cattle hate it

>>76371833 (OP)
Ketchup is a horrible sauce but I don't really think there's such a thing as a "grown up" sauce especially no such thing as a grown up "dip". Yuck.

>>76371880
alot of bad stuff that will fuck you up was created by god(allegedly)

>>76373394
nobody only uses 1 teaspoon of ketchup.

>>76373797
Good thing I didn't say that

>>76373797
7 teaspoons of ketchup gives you less calories than 1 teaspoon of olive oil

>>76371837
Sugar is good for you

>>76371833 (OP)
if you make posts that end in cloutchaser ctas like ", agree?" you are excommunicated from manhood

>>76373394
>teaspoon
Tbsp is a tablespoon

>>76371833 (OP)
I bet the author is a fatass and I would dip her face in my grown up sauce.

>>76373394
Labeling based on serving size needs to be banned.

>>76375057
Four grams is a teaspoon.

>>76371833 (OP)
What is a grown up sauce?

>>76371837
Weird that no sugar added ketchup is more expensive.
I see Heinz 14oz and 38oz is $3.49 and $4.99 while 29.5oz and 31oz Heinz no sugar added is $7.49 and $7.99.

>>76375201
booty juice

>>76375123
It has to be based on some size. What do you propose? The whole container? It would be almost impossible to gauge how much of the container you used.

>>76375201
Horseradish, stone ground mustard, oyster sauce, locally made hot sauce, Greek yogurt with seasoning or herbs, aioli.

>>76375215
Per 100 grams.
Serving sizes just obfuscate the macro concentration.

>>76375289
>Horseradish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY3drFkr3w8

>>76375159
Oh you meant the sugar content i thought you were talking about the serving size as a whole

>>76375321
I literally said the sugar content

>>76375295
It has to be something people can eyeball.

>>76375321
I mean the context of the conversation was the sugar content so...

>>76375295
Per 100 grams is almost useless information--almost as useless as per container. Nobody knows how much 100 grams of ketchup is.

>>76371876
>nothing
>mayonnaise
>nothing again
I don't dislike ketchup on fries or in burgers but putting it on eggs and mac & cheese is just plain weird

>>76375341
I've used this exact line of argument before, and their claim is, since the serving size is universal, they can judge how healthy something is by comparing it to something else. Which is a stupid thing to say, because nobody does that. They're basically saying that 100 grams serving sizes are useful because they can judge for themselves whether or not Doritos are a good snack to have because they can see that per 100 grams they have X amount of calories while something else like Lay's potato chips or a meat stick has Y amount of calories.

>>76371851
Youre not even lying

>>76375341
it says right there that a tbsp is 17 grams, also if you take a tablespoon worth of ketchup you might be wildly off the expected amount anyway. Going by servings has all the problems of going by 100g, with the added issue that every brand and food using different units makes everything more confusing.
>>76375349
>nobody does that
you've never compared two things from different brands to see which one has more protein/sugar/whatever? Everybody does that

>>76375369
>you've never compared two things from different brands to see which one has more protein/sugar/whatever? Everybody does that
Nobody does that in common parlance. What you're suggesting is that every single time somebody eats it's a mathmatical comparison between multiple foodstuffs, that's not based in reality. It's more accurate to say that people would calculate whether something fits into their diet or calculate how much of something they can eat rather than Some complex interplay of comparisons between 12 different kinds of chips when they go to the snack machine.

Sociologically, people tend to eat the same things over and over and rotate out a few different meals, And fitness-minded people generally have common staples.

>>76375376
>Nobody does that in common parlance. What you're suggesting is that every single time somebody eats it's a mathmatical comparison between multiple foodstuffs, that's not based in reality.
nigger are you high? You do the comparison sometimes when you're deciding what to buy at the store (oh this cut of meat is leaner than that one, oh this bottle of juice has one third of the sugar than this other one), certainly not every time you eat and not when you get something from the goddamn vending machine.
If you are not weighing your food an estimation based on serving size is gonna be as imprecise as one based on 100g, so providing data based on serving sizes rather than a standard amount provides some maluses but zero benefits

>>76375401
I think we're talking past each other and I'm not getting my point across coherently or something. People eat what they like, not what mathematically has the lowest calorie count. It's not useful for a label to say this bread has X amount of calories per 100 grams. It's very useful to say per one slice of this bread. There are Y amount of calories. Nobody goes to the store for bread and buys the low calorie keto bread because it's 35 calories a slice versus the whole wheat bread, which is 110 calories per slice, when they specifically went to the store for whole wheat bread. There's always an option with lower calorie or more protein or less fat or whatever, And that option doesn't always taste good or fit into someone's preferences. Anyway, I don't want to go back and forth in this argument anymore because probably no matter how much I try to explain what I'm trying to say, it's difficult to do over the Internet, So I guess I agree to disagree with you.

>>76371833 (OP)
Nigger how is ketchup bad? It's literally minced tomatoes. It will never cease to amaze me how retarded people can be.

>>76375201
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICZww0DtQKk

>>76371833 (OP)
Ketchup is terrible for you.

>high in added sugars
>most brands use high-fructose corn syrup or plain sugar
>you’re basically adding liquid sugar to your food, especially if you’re pouring a lot
>very easy to overuse
>a couple tablespoons might not sound like much, but if you're someone who drowns food in ketchup, you're easily adding 50–100+ kcal of sugary sauce to meals
>it adds calories but no satiety, which is why it’s sometimes called a “calorie leak.”

You're better off using mustard instead which is 0cals.

>>76375410
no I think I understand your point now, but still there might be two types of whole wheat bread and maybe one has way more added sugar than the other, wouldn't you like to know then? I admit that something well defined like a slice is a context in which it makes sense to provide the macros for that rather than for an arbitrary amount, but then in the EU that's often given too (so you'd have both the nutrition "per 100g" and "per slice (20g)" for example).
But with something like ketchup it makes little sense because no one is measuring how many spoonfuls of it they are using and even if they did they might be mismeasuring by significant amounts without even realising

>>76375431
>there might be two types of whole wheat bread and maybe one has way more added sugar than the other, wouldn't you like to know then
Those are actually much more accurately defined in slice serving size rather than in 100 gram servings. Nobody knows how much a piece of bread weighs. Who cares if it's got six grams of added sugar per 100 grams? They want to know how much added sugar is in a slice that they're going to eat. If 100 grams is three slices or something like that, it doesn't matter because you're not, you're only going to eat three slices of bread at once, The serving size is totally amorphous and unuseful. Likewise, if somebody is going to use some amount of ketchup in a dollop that they put on their plate to dip their french fries in, it's much more useful to be able to look at it and say "that looks like about a quarter cup" Even if their estimate is off, because nobody is looking at the little puddle of ketchup and saying, well, that looks like 124 grams., Likewise, people are buying the brand that tastes good, not buying the brand with the lower amount of calories or sugar. In both of your examples, a serving size based on something that people can eyeball, even moderately, inaccurately, is much more effective and useful than a gram serving size.

>>76375452
but maybe one bread has slices that are 50% bigger than the other, I care about the absolute amounts of stuff I'm eating not about what someone decided to be a serving size (eating two big slices of bread is different than eating two small ones, then again I don't buy sliced bread so I can't relate to this scenario too much)
>if somebody is going to use some amount of ketchup in a dollop that they put on their plate to dip their french fries in, it's much more useful to be able to look at it and say "that looks like about a quarter cup"
that's entirely dependent on what you are used to because It would be much easier for me to estimate it in grams than to a cup, which I never used as a unit to measure anything (and cup sizes can vary greatly).
This reminds me of the Celsius vs Fahrenheit arguments where a bunch of people try to argue why one of the two equally valid systems is "objectively better" (it always just boils down to the fact that they've used one all their lives so they can relate to it better). I guess that's what we are doing lol, but I'm glad we shared our perspectives so now I understand the proper reasoning behind providing data according to serving sizes. I still wouldn't switch to it, but I see that it can make sense.

>>76375213
>Weird that no sugar added ketchup is more expensive
it's less common and caters to people who are more willing to spend money on food

>>76375515
Okay, I see now. We just have a difference of opinion and values, not in usefulness. Agree to disagree I guess. It was good having this back and forth in exchange of ideas with you though. Thanks for not being tribalistic and slinging insults as is so often the case on 4chan.

>>76375452
>Who cares if it's got six grams of added sugar per 100 grams?
I do, because it tells me the percentage of sugar in it, especially in relation to the other macronutrients.

>Nobody knows how much a piece of bread weighs.
Correct, I'm Nobody and I know how much a piece of bread weighs because I'm not too dumb to use a kitchen scale, or search the internet for typical bread slice weights when I'm on the go. Nutrition labels should cater to people like me who care about nutrition, not to people who won't read them anyway.

>>76375545
Okay

>>76375523
>Thanks for not being tribalistic and slinging insults as is so often the case on 4chan
same to you, it's rare but it's somehow easier to have civil conversations on here sometimes than on any other social media

>>76375558
Good stuff, Anon, You have a great day.

>>76375545
>1 tic tac is 0 kcal
>100 tic tacs is 0 kcal
>*adds a trivial amount of calories
So it's not 0 and I don't know how much it actually is because it's 2025 and retarded corpos still can't be bothered to make proper labels

God I hate women so much it's unreal.

>>76373391
Based & constraintpilled

>>76371833 (OP)
I agree with her. Sweets are for women and children. Something about a man with a sweettooth is just off.

Ketchup is a fantastic sauce when used properly.
I hate people who infantilize it saying 'its not a grown ups sauce duh!'
Fucking retard, its a staple on many recipes but you only know how to use it by completely slathering things with it.
Absolute dunning-kruger when it comes to cooking.

>>76371876
Mustard is way better than ketchup when it comes to fries

>>76377164
Taste is subjective.

>>76375213
>weird that they charge a premium for the non-poisoned food

>>76375201
Water