Anybody using any peptides? I’m looking to nuke my anxiety and make some brain/sleep gains. I got sober and am trying to unfuck my brain, and I’ve always dealt with severe anxiety and depression issues and I don’t want to take MORE pharmaceuticals when I could figure out a protocol to handle my issues on my own.

What do you guys think?

>>76372904 (OP)
The CJC-1295 is with DAC btw so it has a very long half life

>>76372904 (OP)
>I got sober
>trying to use drugs to fix anxiety
No you didn't, you just found an addiction you're okay with.

>>76372911
If you can’t distinguish between recreational, addictive drugs and these substances then idk how to relate to somebody so profoundly stupid. The reason I did drugs in the first place was self medication, and if I don’t figure this out I am doomed to slide back into substance abuse.

Does using heart medication make you a drug addict because you need it to function?

>>76372904 (OP)
I can't offer any advice, sorry.
So what's the deal with peptides versus anabolic steroids? I'm only aware of collagen peptides you can buy at the local grocer. I would ask /fraud/ but iirc they don't do discussion on peptides and TRT.

Is there a good resource or wiki out there for learning?

>>76373056
he's right you know anon

the problem is psychological - feeling like you need external molecules and wanting to "optimize" your life. the boomer taking heart medications pops his prescription in the morning and doesn't think about it for the rest of the day, he doesn't strive for the light like young faust himself

>>76373076
Peptides are amino acids that cause certain physiological responses. The collagen peptides are totally different than these, and they are not the same thing as anabolic steroids in any way.

Peptides are the future of medicine, it’s just that there isn’t a ton of research into them because they aren’t able to be patented and if they’re curative and restorative there’s almost zero financial incentive to get people to use them

>>76373056
You don't need peptides to function though. You think you need them because you're an addict looking for a fix.
Get over yourself, anxiety is not real. Depression is not real.

>>76373090
No, he’s not right. I’m tired of psychiatric medication and pharmaceuticals. I’m looking to solve the root of my issues, and I’m not looking to be in meds for the rest of my life.

In case you didn’t know, psychological problems are the manifestation of measurable physical and chemical issues in the brain.

>>76373099
>anxiety is not real
>CNS in constant overdrive, feeling like something is literally gnawing at the base of my skull
>fight or flight mode engaged upon waking and remaining engaged all day
Just because YOU don’t personally experience something doesn’t mean nobody does

>>76373103
>I’m looking to solve the root of my issues, and I’m not looking to be in meds for the rest of my life
Then why are you trying to take peptides for the rest of your life to treat the symptoms of an issue which are the result of your environment?

>>76373110
>my le made up bullshit to justify not just talking on the phone
you talk like a woman

>>76373111
You don’t take them for life, dummy. That’s the entire point. The cause of my problems are not environmental, I’ve already fixed those issues. My life is GOOD; I have a job I don’t hate, I have straight A’s in college, a stable relationship with a woman, a /fit/ body, and direction in life. By all metrics I should be thriving but I’m not.

>>76373093
That is an extremely 'jak-able image

>>76373115
Who said anything about talking on the phone? Im white knuckling it and have been for months, it isn’t sustainable.

>>76373127
Anxiety is not a real condition, it's a made up cope by women and weak willed men for why they are inadequate. No research ever finds a physical cause for it, because it does not exist. Any of your woman problems like failure to call people, getting scared of answering the doorbell, and ordering food for dropoff instead of talking to people are fully 100% your own fault to get over.

>>76373132
LOL. I can absolutely guarantee I am higher functioning than you, and I don’t have social anxiety you fuckin loser.

It’s a constant physical state of fight or flight. My psychiatrist ordered blood work to check thyroid issues (overactive thyroid can lead to anxiety and insomnia). I’ve never ever in my life “slept”, even as a little kid. The times in which I have slept through the night are able to be counted on one hand. I thought getting sober would fix these issues, but now that I’m at a good baseline I am able to determine that, unequivocally, there is something wrong and I am struggling.

>>76373145
>there is something wrong and I am struggling.
Yes, it's that you're a pussy who can't get the fuck over himself. Only the most pathetic men blame their issues on woman problems. You might want to consider transitioning.

>>76373164
You should post body so we can see whether you should be taken seriously or not :)

I mog you. Get out of my thread, loser

>>76373099
low iq ragebaiter

>>76373171
>saving pictures of men to your hard drive
>LARPing as fit on /fit/
>using a roiders picture
top fucking kek

>>76373178
ragebait implies I'm not being serious. I mean what I said.

>>76373184
That’s my photo, sweetie :)

Oh, no body? That’s fuckin weird

>>76373187
>I'm sober
>Is on roids
>why are emotions bad?!?! I'm only fucking with my hormones known for regulating emotion and worsening sleep!!!!
there's your problem roidtranny top fucking kek
No wonder you're so easily triggered, such a failure of a man you had to troon out

>>76373187
he won't post body cuz he's a low iq ragebaiter. try long duration cardio if you haven't already, helps a lot with mental health and anxiety in particular

>>76373195
I’m 36; the entire reason I started taking test was because the SNRI that I’m on nuked my sex drive. My ex thought I was cheating on her, but it’s better than blowing my brains out like I had intended to do.

ALL OF THESE ISSUES EXIST IN MY LIFE REGARDLESS OF TRT DOSES OF TESTOSTERONE
>easily triggered
Bro you’re harassing me and coming into a thread to deliberately stir up some shit because you have no life

>>76372904 (OP)
Although there are some good pepetides out there, I think small molecules overall win in terms of value for most stuff; you can usually find small molecules doing whatever a pepetide does, only cheaper.

>>76373205
My back is fucked up from manual labor (two lumbar herniations); can you recommend an alternative to running? Would getting a punching bag be sufficient?

>>76373206
You're simply triggered because I'm right. You're not sober, you're a drooling addict (and worse, a roidtroon.) Your "emotional problems" (woman problems) are 100% your problem and you simply need to get over them. You're just seething that you got told drugs aren't the solution to your drug induced troon symptoms.

>>76372904 (OP)
Mushrooms
/thread

>>76373093
How do you mean they can't be patented? I don't know much of anything about peptides except I think ozempic is a peptide, right?

>>76373220
>problems exist long before taking testosterone
>take testosterone and antidepressant, feel great ASIDE from anxiety
>able to get sober because of the aforementioned things
>still have a lingering issue that I’m trying to be proactive about solving
Idk man. It seems like I’m on the right track here. You should post body, sweetie :)

It’s unfathomable to be that people like you exist. How miserable and lonely must one be to behave as you do?

>>76373214
your best bet is on a machine. I don't have injuries preventing me from running but I still choose to do cardio on machines as they're superior imo. I like the airdyne bike and the rower, but they're all good and the elliptical and stairmaster have been popular with bodybuilders for awhile. If you look on facebook marketplace you can find cheap/free cardio machines easily. Granted idk your living situation but I got a used airdyne bike and rower for my homegym for free from facebook marketplace and use them all the time

>>76373230
A lot of them are naturally occurring in the body. I misspoke, they can be patented if they’re novel and not naturally occurring

>>76373231
I've got nothing to prove to a mentally ill roidtroon pretending to have woman problems to cope with his failure to integrate into society, if you want more pictures of men to jerk off to there's a /cbt/ up though :)
Have fun with your woman problems though I guess, picking up a second addiction (you're addicted to roids still btw) will not help. Growing a pair would've, but you ruined those already. Might want to consider trooning the other way if you want to keep having woman problems and be taken seriously.
Cope and seethe.

>>76373164
Shut up faggot. You talk like a sub 80 iq muttmerican
>>76373145
Get your cortisol level tested. You probably have it up to the roof. I used to be anxious af mostly for my ex job. L-theanine might help you

>>76373103
>looking to solve the root of issues
look into an iboga ceremony in Gabon

>>76373242
Thanks bro, cardio is something I admittedly neglect because I hate it.
>>76373247
You are pathetically ignorant about addiction and mental health issues. Why are you so triggered, why do you feel the need to behave in this way? Why are you berating somebody who is admittedly having a hard time and who is trying to figure out how to be a productive and useful member of society?

How much do you bench press?

>>76373099
>anxiety isn’t real
>depression isn’t real
you’re an imbecile

>>76373267
>n-n-n-nuh uh I'm not triggered, YOURE triggered!
ok roidtranny
>>76373256
>>76373268
>t. triggered pretroon suffering from woman problems

>>76373195
Post body bitch. You got called out now put up pussy.

>>76373279
Dude you are SEETHING. What type of mental illness are you suffering from? No body posted, therefore your opinion is irrelevant :)

>>76373279
Said the guy repressing his emotion for the fear of coming off as gay. Sorry to hear you aren't confident enough with your masculinity. I think coming out as a gay man and and have a good crying session with other men

>>76373291
Will help you*

>>76373279
>hurr durr troon
only thing you’re capable of coming up with. imbecile confirmed

>>76373243
Ok thanks for the info

>>76373267
go at an easy/moderate pace to start off. zone 2 cardio is a good spot to be in, however there's merits to doing intense stuff too. The first 10 mins suck but once you push past it and the endorphins kick in then it's tolerable, and you feel great afterwards. I recommend listening to music during. It also helps your lifting and I've found that I don't get winded while lifting anymore and can recover in between sets better since I started doing cardio

>>76373289
>I'm not seething YOURE seething
cope
>>76373291
>>76373297
You really should consider transitioning, you already sound like women

>>76372904 (OP)
I started bpc 157 and tb 500 for my joint pain and for the first time in my life i'm pain free while working out AND having an heavy work load, normal both of these things wouldnt be compatible for me.
But i also have a disablilty so i'm just leveling the playing field
Also retatrutide 1mg per week because i cant beat my sugar addiciton

>>76373321
Bro, I’m not seething. You’re obsessively replying to a thread that doesn’t concern you; you’re going out of your way to act like a histrionic faggot because you’re triggered by my posts. Seek help.

>>76373321
you should consider transitioning. women are the ones who are obsessed with people and write out paragraphs for them, faggot

>>76373335
>one sentence is a paragraph
Oh great you're young enough you might pass if you transition now too
>>76373329
>no u
cope

>>76373340
Absolutely mind broken, kek

You list external things you achieved and posess, however your problems persist. Your problems are internal, they will stay with you untill you fix them. No externals will fix you. Not money, status, goals, drugs, peptides etc. You need acceptance brother. Accept the anxiety, embrace it. Accept it as a part of you. Only then will it dissappear.
I've gone down the same path as you.

Please don't be demotivated when the things you hoped would fix your problems dont actually change anything, and just remember my words. Stop chasing externals. Embrace and accept. Good luck on your journey.

>>76373321
>muh you are gays
>you should transitioning
Holy projection. YWNBAW

>>76373353
>no u
cope
>>76373345
>roidtroon calling others mindbroken
top fucking kek

>>76373359
What do you get out of this?
>>76373350
Thanks bro. I appreciate this post

>>76373321
>everyone around me is a woman
continues to seeking drama like one. kek

>>76373370
>What do you get out of this?
A good time in between sets
>>76373397
>continues to seeking drama like one. kek
seeking attention is woman behaviour, being the cause of drama is manly behaviour. I know sheep like you might not understand, but it's okay.

anon is assblasting these soifaggots

>>76373405
>being the cause of drama is manly behavior
There retards on here never cease to amaze

>>76373405
>sheep
yeah I bet you’re a real .0001% alpha lion. pic just for you

>>76372904 (OP)
you write like a toddler

>>76373559
I’m sorry, I’ll compose a dissertation next time.

>>76373426
>There retards
>>76373432
this except I'm buff outside of the reflection too,t thanks for noticing :)