Thread 76376451

Stand against the majority and share an opinion that will make us hate you.

I'll start: strength training (as in, 5 reps or less) is a mistake that goes against our biology and inevitably leads to injury.

Beards are /fit/. Clean shaven is Reddit

Some people's controversial opinions are a means of self identification

>>76376451 (OP)
Most people on here don't actually want to change in any way, they're far more comfortable shitposting and they will stay that way. The people that actually wanted to change left a long time ago and the ones that are still here are old trolls.
The first step in actual change, whether it be physical, social, or mental, is leaving 4chan forever.

>>76376464
Damn straight. Also if you're balding you should just shave it off.

>>76376472
Based. This is the only board i come to and a rarely come here any more.

>>76376486
No. Hair is life

>>76376472
>The first step in actual change is leaving 4chan forever
not controversial

haha I said something stupid in the second reply now a bunch off people are gonna reply to me and I can screencap it for r/4chan haha!

>>76376464
Beard is lazy, clean shaven is efficient

>>76376523
Okay, bro.

>>76376523
>>76377187

You don't need more than 40g of protein per day
It's just going to be wasted

>>76376523
>>76376523

>>76376451 (OP)
A good number of people (not the majority) that /fit/ thinks are on steroids are actually natty. Genetics are extremely important and almost nobody has elite bodybuilding genetics.

>>76376451 (OP)
>strength training (as in, 5 reps or less) is a mistake that goes against our biology and inevitably leads to injury.
I will post a contrary unpopular opinion: if you only do slow controlled lifts but don't do plyometrics or something else that maximally stresses your connective tissue, you are going to tear your connective tissue doing something relatively innocuous

>>76376472
This is an extremely popular opinion. It gets posted weekly every time a "/fit/ sucks now" thread goes up and people line up to agree.

Actual unpopular opinion:
/fit/ is good specifically because of all the shitposting. Health and fitness are just simple enough - and good-enough resources for them accessible enough - that there just isn't all that much productive stuff to say about them.

There's no more than 100 posts worth of information that's worth knowing, tops. People who've read them all once think they need to leave /fit/ because there's nothing else here for them. People who've read them all ten times keep coming back to shitpost because it's funny.

>>76377244
>/fit/ is good specifically because of all the shitposting.
I agree. This has always been a shitposting board. I have a feeling it's /plg/ autists or something who get mad at that fact.

>>76377187
Why is he shaving with a piece of broken glass instead of a razor?

>>76377187
>>76377196
>>76377205
>>76377211
>fat fuck has skin problems
sad

Lat pull downs are peak cope for people who can't do pull ups.

If I see you doing lat pull downs I automatically assume you're a pussy

>>76377355
I liked lat pulldowns because they are more fun to cheat with. If you cheat on pullups either kip like a faggot or swing all around like a full-blown retard.

>>76376451 (OP)
>Controversial /fit/ opinions.
The weights are sentient and don't like being picked up

>>76376464
Ok, jawlet

>>76376516
>>76377244
and yet here you are.

>>76377280
Here's a skinny boy

>>76376451 (OP)
Not controversial but this place is so anti-blackpill that they cope against simple basic truths.
Genetics (includes but not limited to : parenting, environment, nutrients intake as a kid, being pushed into sports) are everything.
You cant correct bad genetics, only mask and disguise them. You can work them a certain way that would be the most optimal for your shitty hand, but beyond that someone with good genetics will always btfo you efortlessly

>>76377453
the main thing that seems to affect my dermatitis is dairy

>>76377435
>and yet here you are.
Yeah the whole post was about how fitness is simple and shitposting is fun, retard. See you tomorrow.

>>76377461
>genetics (including mostly things completely unrelated to genetics) are everything

>>76377562
Being born to the adequate people is genetic and determinism at worse

>>76376451 (OP)
>90% of lifters regardless of goals can get by just fine on 100-120g of protein a day.
>Never bulk over 16%.
>Bench should be basically always substituted with low incline bench.
>Calves and hams are way more important for leg appearances than quads.
>Legs should be trained at a 1:5-7 ratio to upper body.
>Chinups are better than pullups.
>Weighted chin ups and dips should be foundational movements in your programming.
>God is real and Christ is King.
>Stop sounding like you're apologizing when you ask women out.
>Call your dad, he misses you but doesn't want to be a nag or a bother.

>>76377244
>/fit/ is good specifically because of all the shitposting
thing is, the current shitposts aren't even good, what's there to like? ketoschizo? coombaits? race wars?

>>76376451 (OP)
Seems like the whole board is against sluts but I genuinely believe sluts boost testosterone and make you compete more and have more sex for longer.

I'm old now (35). I thought I had low test / some sort of dick disorder cause my former wife (divorced now) didn't get it up for me everytime. Then I went to a concert with a friend of mine and I stood behind a girl who danced seductively the whole night. The whole night I could feel my (what I thought was impotent) dong stir in my trousers. I ended up talking to that woman (who wasn't even super attractive just younger than my wife and dressed more slutty) and she ended up making out with me in my car after the show. I convinced her to go to a Hilton with me afterwards. I was able to have sex 5 times that night which I thought was something only teenage me could do. I realized that being exposed to attractive women increases libido and must increase testosterone production.

Being a retarded autist, I had married a girl 5 years older than me who lost her sex drive a year into the marriage. All of the rejected advances, moralfagging, being a white night who believed in only giving my gaze and heart to my wife, and not understanding what type of sex I wanted essentially castrated me. After that night where I got my mojo back. I ended up deciding I wanted to have GFs and talked to my wife about a divorce. Now I have a lot less stuff (my fault) but I have a younger GF (26) who's really doing it for me. I go to concerts and oggle the women, I go to gyms and oggle the women, and I go to the beach and oggle women and I think that's why I have the ability to have sex multiple times a night and the drive to chase after prettier women.

>>76377420
Hot

>>76377618
>Chinups are better than pullups
I'll give you a hotter take: neutral grip is better than both and at the top of the pyramid there are ring pullups because you can tailor your grip more accurately (shoulders status? SAVED)

>>76377697
my libido and drive for life is dead and i know i would be much happier single but my gf is truly a very, very good person who is absent of almost every conventional flaw or red flag a girl could have and genuinely just wants to marry me and have kids and i'm so full of guilt and shame for not caring about this things and still wanting to chase younger, hotter girls that it's driving me insane.

there has not been a single man, young or old, family or friend, even therapists who have known her and not been like "damn dude you have a really great girl, why aren't you married yet?"

>>76377697
Promiscuity does not glorify Christ.

>>76377779
It's that same kind of thinking that broke my dick.

>>76376451 (OP)
Deadlifts are the safest lift. Squats are the most dangerous.

>>76377644
>thing is, the current shitposts aren't even goo-

>>76377644
JUST A DICKEN GIRL
LIVING IN A BOOTY WOOORLD

You can get a great physique with a minimalist approach:
little variety of exercises
Couple sets to failure with very long rest
finishing with higher reps less weight for volume, but still to no rep in reserve
Fullbodies you train a few days apart

Imo the eternal newfags of the gym never make progress because they do the exact opposite: splitted split with a forearm day, or abs workout
no drop of sweat in sight
4x12 1m30s on all exercises
so never goes to failure
obsessed with protein consumption
but it all goes in the shitter

>>76377411
>either kip like a faggot or swing all around like a full-blown retard.

tf, just do partials

>>76377235
Slow controlled lifts are the single best way to strengthen connective tissues though

>>76376523
You are retarded. Maintaining a beard that doesn't make you look homeless is far more work.

>>76377697
So you were a retard and didn't act like a horny retard when you were young like you should have, so it got bottled up and now you are old, horny and retarded and trying to make up for lost time and it will never be as good as it would have been, but thankfully for you you have no reference point.
>>76377779
Based.

>>76376451 (OP)
If you're exercising to attract female attention you will never make it. You will always be seeking the validation of another person and never achieve anything of value.

>>76376451 (OP)
Strength>>>>aesthetics.

>>76378150
Better now than never. Also, watch out for the religious trad stuff because I think that is a form of castration for men.

>>76378311
Men who skipped out seem to have a dangerous potential for going overboard though. Those mediocre mistakes you make as a teen or 20 years old get treated differently when you are middle age. And in curre t age all mistakes seem to be more dangerous, especially as a White male.
And if you start to get into drugs and heavy drinking, which is an integral part of slut hunting, you have much more to lose and less natural ability for your health to bounce back.
Not saying don't enjoy some freedom and sow you wild oats, but be sure to keep and employ the extra wisdom and restraint that those extra years should have gifted you.
And this should go without saying. Carry insist and use condoms. Bitches be dirty deez days, dawg.

>>76378339
I'm sober, aside from a bottle of wine every once and a while. I still think sluts are a great tool that exist to keep you potent. They have their place like everything else.

Lifting weights probably won't fix your depression.
It might be a good place to start trying though.

>>76376451 (OP)

/Fit/ is the best it's ever been. Depopulated, comfy, nice. Ready for whatever you wanna make of it.

>>76376451 (OP)

Fitness is inherently a left wing activity, not a right wing activity.

Right wing is inherently hedonistic, which is the opposite of lifting and its achievements.

Right wingers whinge and complain about anything changing, and what things to stay the same so they can be lazy and not have to deal with change

If you disagree, I have already depicted you as a right wing onions boy in my head, so you have lost.

oats are terrible for you

Kettlebells, clubs, and pullups are enough for GPP. Everything else is extra.

>>76378167
How do I free myself from this? I started lifting 2 years 7 months ago in the hopes of getting a gf and even tho I mog my past self and get a few mires from girls I still feel like I've made 0 progress on actually talking to girls.

>>76376464
Clean shaven with a good jawline > good beard > clean shaven with a bad jawline > bad beard

>>76376451 (OP)
Powerbuilding programs are pretty nice for early intermediates

>>76376472
Yeah
The only reason I still come here is because I can be my actual unfiltered self. And, you guys are funny sometimes.

I think we should force people with COPD and other similar shit to workout and take care of themselves. Loss of freedom in needed.

Tired of this shit ruining families and shit.

All the "influencers" are some midwits who can't even figure out the right levels of minerals in their diets or search up basic shit like...
>Scientific Reports volume 15, Article number: 24802 (2025)
>Small molecule compound ZYZ-384 targets SMYD3 to alleviate aging
>https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-10345-y

This is a great program for beginners.

>>76379697
>beginners
>weighted chin up

>>76379491
>bad jaw and bad beard genetics

its never been so over bros. My jaw seemed to get worse too, it wasnt this bad when I was younger

>>76379698
Yes, as opposed to progressing by doing different variations or rep schemes you will progress by increasing weight, possibly starting in the negatives (assisted).

>>76376451 (OP)
>keto doesn't just work, it's fucking easy
>you can lose fat and gain muscle at the same time
>flat bench is a good chest exercise
>black coffee is the best preworkout
>about 50% of what Mike Israetel says is actually reasonable advice, he's just never once taken his own advice in his life

>>76376451 (OP)
Unless you compete, there is literally no reason to ever squat or deadlift.

>>76377866
what's with /fit's obsession with this random zoom-zoom? Keep seeing this kid's face in the catalog

Spot reduction works.
CICO doesn't work.

mustaches are /fit/ - clean shaven is nu/fit/ - beard is reddit

>>76376451 (OP)
I've seen many times how bricklayers compete against bodybuilders, and to top it all off, the bodybuilders lose in many ways. So it seems to me that sometimes people focus on having a body that looks good, but that isn't very functional for basic survival.

>>76377697
words of pain and wisdom. Simping got us into this mess

>>76376451 (OP)
Pushups and pullups (plus variations) are literally the only two exercises you need to get a muscular and strong upper body.

One-legged squat variations are enough to get a muscular and strong lower body.

Being able to squat 400+ lbs yet not being able to perform a single pistol squat is laughable.

>>76377697
In no small part it's our own fault for shaming women for being sluts. Sluts were based all along.

>>76376472
This. I used to browse the boards often in 2017-2020. I left when I actually got a life. Got a job, girlfriend, hobbies.

Recently I lost my job, my gf left, and I can’t afford my hobbies anymore. So here I am back on 4chin. Missed you losers.

>>76378444
Nice trips.

So annoying when reddit tards spew this exact line. “Lifting weights won’t fix my depression”.

No shit. Lifting something really heavy over and over sucks. It will not make you happy while you do it. (Unless you have been doing it for a long time - then you can associate it with happiness although it still objectively sucks and is a difficult task.) Lifting will not make you feel better if you tell yourself it won’t.

Lifting WILL cure your depression if you let it. If you embrace the pain. If you see results. If you actually put in the effort needed to get endorphins pumping.

The issue with reddit retards is that effort and pain automatically = misery and suffering no matter what. Their idea of a depression cure is a magic pill, an anime porn cafe, a zelda plushie, or a new season of Smiling friends.

>>76381572
> endorphins for 5 minutes
> 24h in a day

>>76377618
>>90% of lifters regardless of goals can get by just fine on 100-120g of protein a day.
>>Bench should be basically always substituted with low incline bench.
>>Calves and hams are way more important for leg appearances than quads.
>>Weighted chin ups and dips should be foundational movements in your programming.
I strongly agree with all of these.

>>76377697
They hate sluts because they can't attain them. All anti-slut discourse is pure sour grapes.
The only thing I agree with is you shouldn't marry someone with a very different sexual history than your own. If you're a manwhore you should marry a slut, if you have little sexual success you should marry a women who's had few-to-no other partners.

>>76381051
Nice try, Bryan.

2022 was the silver age of the board

>>76376451 (OP)
Controversial opinions in fitness mostly exist at the ground floor.

Neider press is an essential exercise for fighting sports

>>76383943
Yeah I was peak

>>76376451 (OP)
cock size and facial structure matter more than your gains ever will

>>76377866
>>76381051
Oldfag here, the joke is that anon actually posted that guy's son's picture instead.

You can absolutely get shredded and look great without really getting strong, and I think it's better than being actually strong.

I have looked the same for 3 years now, and I've only made strength gains in that time. I'm okay with this. Being aesthetically pleasing first off was the most important part.

Drinking water when you aren't thirsty because you want to stay hecking "hydrated" is npc behavior

>>76381572
You might have bad endorphins genetics. I got a rush the first time I worked out. I also get runners high easily.

>>76385184
This is true. Powershitters obsess about "functional strength", but like, why? The heaviest things you'll need to lift irl is just furniture or whatever, which doesn't take much strength. When has anyone ever needed to squat something more than 300 pounds outside of the gym

>>76385287
A lot of people autistically assume they can fight just because they are big and strong.

>>76377756
sounds to me you're mostly being influenced by peer pressure. maybe she's lacking that something, some deep dark aspect that relates to your deep dark self? if the greatness is only surface level, surely you'd get bored eventually.

>>76379462
oh the irony. you might look good now after two years, wide upper body and strong arms, that's something women like. but you gotta start making reps on approaching women and talking to them. read book of pook or mark manson's pua book and join the /sig/. if you can find a place online where you can chat with women with not too bad simp ratio, that also helps.

>>76385200
I don't notice being thirsty enough so I need to constantly remind myself to drink if I don't want headaches.

I mog majority of roid troons on this shit board

>>76386245
I think I've read book of pook a few years ago and I think the things you learn there are just stuff I already know and it seems kinda outdated for today's game when 90% of girls for unrealistic ego when it comes to men due to social media exposure.

I have no issue talking to older women because they are more open and don't give a shit but talking with younger girls that are my age 20-27 feels fucking impossible, they are either too shy to the point they won't give you any opening/signals, always using headphones everywhere.

>>76377618
>>Call your dad, he misses you but doesn't want to be a nag or a bother.
why would you enable this low test beta male behaviour? he should grow up

>>76376451 (OP)
>strength training (as in, 5 reps or less) is a mistake that goes against our biology and inevitably leads to injury.
Can confirm. I ended up with a shoulder injury for bench pressing like this. Now I'm going back to high rep sets.

Most workouts will get you to the natty limit if done consistently. There is no objective reason to do barbell routines if you only want gains. Just do what you like to do and you will get to the same place.

>>76383113
>They hate sluts because they can't attain them. All anti-slut discourse is pure sour grapes.
puhleaze. women are important for more than looking good and casual sex. if you are fine with sluts you are fine with women who are only good for that. if they were a tiny percent, no big deal. but today it's your average woman.

>>76377453
unironically a skill issue, you need a sharper razor, better pre-shave lubrication and a good aftershave, you also should be doing basic skincare, at the very least have a warm/hot shower before shaving so your follicles open up and your hairs soften, the small cysts and pimples are caused by either small cuts that get infected or hairs being pulled in the wrong direction and becoming ingrown

>>76377618
true for all except for 4th and 8th

Nice bump retard

aesthetics are overrated, its much better to lift for fun and to make gym friends, then if you wanna impress normies for some reason just diet down until abs show

>>76377618
Gayest fucking post I've seen in a while. Accompanied with an even gayer image.

>>76377644
I was laughing for a solid 20 seconds at these posts earlier
>>76381712
>>76382570
>>76382978

>>76377461
>Genetics (includes but not limited to : parenting, environment, nutrients intake as a kid, being pushed into sports)
I don't think you know what the word genetics means rajesh

>>76376451 (OP)
Veganism is a sickness of the mind that goes against everything we stand for on an evolutionary basis

being hungry feels really good desu

>>76379697
not really
>AMRAP
not great for beginners high chances of hurting yourself, if you want autoregulatation do it on based on RIR and make them do few simple exercises to RIR0 to teach them how does it feel
>Barbell Row on low reps
way too easy to cheat (using hips or just dropping the weight on lowering down)
>DL once a week
its not enough to learn the movement and progress the wight as the beginner should start from "low" weights
>AMRAP on DL
xdd
its an okay routine for a late stage beginner maybe

>>76376464
this. imagine intentionally making yourself look like less of a man

The Indian hate : anti jeet spam is forced and not funny anymore, it just feels inorganic and it’s /pol: schiz shit
Yes part of India is shit? Yes Indians can be annoying and dirty but I don’t know why we need fucking 6 threads a day about jeets. We get it, they smell. They’re pests blip lol it’s just repetitive shit
And what’s weirder is majority of people aren’t even from the main immigration country jeets are coming too (aus, UK, CAN) so it’s obvious dyels just dunking to feel part of the cool kids
And I know by saying this I’ll get
>>hurrr you’re mad pajeet
I’m a white Euro, I just don’t get psyoped into hating a whole race because of memes.
It’s nowhere as original or funny as people think it is

>>76388171
Sure thing bro. Did you wash your hands before using your keyboard?

>>76377697
Genuinely sad and pathetic post.

>>76376451 (OP)
>strength training (as in, 5 reps or less) is a mistake that goes against our biology
Fucking retard who believes the "our ancestors outran gazelles and mammoths" meme. When in reality they depended on a hyperfocused cns and short bursts of strength and athleticism to wound the animal, after which they would trail it until the animal collapsed from blood loss.

>>76378389
>sluts are a great tool that exist to keep you potent
Moronic take, wasting your time/life energy on ran through whores is the exact opposite of keeping your potency high.

>>76388188
No. Why does it matter?

>>76381516
What about your core?

>>76388171
>t. jeet

>76388371
>d-do I fit in yet lol!?>76388188
> bumping from page 7
Keek

>>76388171
fax, there never from canada or us complaining either lol

>>76377618
>Christ is king
I didn't know they had gyms in Mexico

>>76388171
Polcels.. our response?

>>76388243
Yep

most people are ego lifting. you can get big without chasing extremely heavy weight. youll grow a lot more focusing on making the weight more challenging.

Majority of people who hate on Indians and join in on the meme aren’t even from Canada or Australia lol

>>76388171
trvth nvke
it was funny when it was about jeet scam centers and all the "saar do not redeem!!" memes, but now it's so fucking forced all the time. you can even see it on reddit/youtube/tiktok, and when it reaches those places you already know the meme is beyond dead, they're eating it and vomiting then eating it back over and over

>>76388388
I lifted at Mexican gyms for a bit while I was there. Talk about people the 'compound lifts' meme hasn't reached.

>>76388171
It reminds me of when everyone was racist against Asians a few years back. It was a meme of its own.

>>76377461
>this place is so anti-blackpill
Literally the opposite. /fit/ is flooded with blackpill posts every single day. To the point where they seem inorganic.

>>76377244
>/fit/ is good specifically because of all the shitposting.
/fit/ motivates me to go the gym so I can shitpost about it later.

Extra unpopular opinion:
/fit/ has the best shitposts of any board.

>>76379697
those are baby set counts.

>>76383951
Know what, valid take.

>>76376451 (OP)
It's better to use fin and min than it is to go bald

You don't need to use a lot of steroids, but even minor steroids are better than being natty.

>>76388735
>the meme
almost like it's not a meme and people are hating jeets completely sincerely and the hate grows stronger the more we are forced to interact with them

>>76385324
Yet they ironically talk down to boxing and bjj/wresting advice.

>>76385200
Drinking water for hydration is npc behavior. Milk and fruit juice are way better.

>>76376451 (OP)
The only controversial opinion that I hold is that kissing a girl after she gives you a blowjob is gay as fuck and eating her pussy is just as gay. I've had 3 gfs in my life and I did none of that shit and it all kept them in line and made them more obedient.

>>76376464
>trimmed beard that accentuates your jawline
based
>giant bushy redditor "art of manliness" beard that hides your micro-chin
cringe

people act like there's no middle ground between looking like a baby-faced infant and looking like a beta trying to LARP as a viking

>>76386251
The solution to this problem is to practice mindfulness. Train yourself to pay attention to your body's needs throughout the day. You're in the habit of ignoring your own thirst impulse for whatever reason, but you can break out of it if you want to. Trust me, drinking when thirsty is way better than just guessing.