>only popular exercise that can potentially kill you
What’s the point in doing bench press when machines give the exact same benefit?

>>76380015 (OP)
Degrees of freedom. Idk about you but my body feels better when it's not being forced into a specific path.

Just use safety bars.

>>76380015 (OP)
>What’s the point in doing bench press when machines give the exact same benefit?
false dichotomy bot - neither is any good

if you are pressing with retracted shoulders most of pectoralis muscle is wrapped around rib-cage and u wind up with droopy bitch bench tits with void in the middle cause only costal head has any chance to work
u get fucked weak shoulders as a bonus though, everything overhead becomes torture

if u're gonna bench do it like jay cutler:
>>76379907

>>76380035
>Degrees of freedom. Idk about you but my body feels better when it's not being forced into a specific path.
my feels way better when i'm not benching :D
>Just use safety bars.
it's and pushup:
>>76380036
position
don't need sodomite equipment for that lol

>>76380042

>>76380015 (OP)
>Only popular exercise that can kill you
Seen squats kill more people than bench; and most of /fit/ fell for the SS meme, so you can't say they aren't popular.

>>76380015 (OP)
>squats and ohp can't kill you
Huh?

>>76380015 (OP)
The first thing i learned before even stacking my first pl8 is to do the roll of shame, you should try it

>>76380036
Been benching for 5 years. 100kg bench for reps, 60kg OHP for reps. No torture. No droopy bitch tits. My body looks better than yours. Go fuck yourself, retard.

>>76380015 (OP)

>>76380015 (OP)
>>only popular exercise that can potentially kill you
>implying
Squats and OHP can kill you just fine too. You can drown in a spoonful of water. Just don't be retarded, and if you are, do us a favor and die.

>>76380138

ego lift but not as egotistical as the useless deadlift. better off doing db bench press - at least you wont tear your pec off.

>>76380138

it took you 5 years to rep 100kg?

>>76380036
It's true that you can isolate your chest with what looks like a halfassed bench set to the ignorant, but there's also guys who bench strict and get a huge chest. Because all of that, focus on the chest, is still in the strict bench set, you're just not focused on it. So it's just gonna take longer but you'll get more than a developed chest out of it.

>>76380192
I don't think deadlift is useless - but I only do RDLs which I think are better. I do both BB bench and DB bench (incline) - I don't see how BB bench is an ego lift, unless you make it one. I've never even tried a 1 rep max on it. Any hard lift is building muscle.

No it took me maybe 2.5 years to bench 100kg. I'm inconsistent, what can I say. Might have been 3 years. Now I can bench 100kg for 5x5 I don't even bother to try and add more weight. I just do more reps occasionally. I have a decently defined chest now and I got that almost entirely with BB bench and dips. I only started doing incline like a year ago and chest fly like 2 months ago.

I just don't see how anyone can say BB bench is useless when it demonstrably grew my chest.

>>76380106
>>76380115
>>76380182
Show me a video of someone getting rekt from squat or ohp

>>76380211
https://i.4cdn.org/fit/1752534641457078.webm

>>76380138
I do push ups in incline and decline and have the same chest, I don’t even go to failure either I just stop when I feel like it

>>76380015 (OP)
Don't die, pussy

>>76380218
Ntg, is that a smith machine? No wonder this happened then. smith machine and squat is dumb

>>76380138
>no droopy bitch tits
>posts droopy bitch tits
lol

>>76380015 (OP)
Weighted Push Ups are also great and have less chance of killing you, with bench press just don't go to failure when training without safeties and a spotter. Remember these were invented by short guys and prior they would just do floor presses and bent presses instead prior invention of the bench.

>>76380358
post body

>>76380366
>and prior they would just do floor presses and bent presses instead prior invention of the bench.
And yet these exercises with a shorter range of motion ARE WORSE for tall or lanky people

>>76380392
holy shit are those droopy bitch tits actually yours? that’s even funnier.
I honestly thought you were posting what fate you were supposedly avoiding.

>>76380330
>smith machine and squat is dumb
just put your feet a little forward, lean into the bar and turn it into a hacksquad bro

>I don’t bench press because it’s scary and it can kill me
Coward

Secret gym rekt thread. Do not engage.

>>76380434
terrible trolling, I pointed out it was me in the first post so no need to pretend you're surprised for effect
post body. I wanna see your zero chest muscle because you don't fucking lift lmao

>>76380521
Bro, I lift to impress girls, I don't really care what strangers on internet think about me

>>76380015 (OP)
>only popular exercise that can potentially kill you
Someone post the webm of the brown guy who died squatting with a spotter

>>76380036
post body, faggot

>>76380015 (OP)
If you are setting yourself up for potentially dying and you have no safeties put in place, whose fault is it really?

>>76380138
My body looks better than yours after 5 months of training without doing bench press.
>>76372267

>>76380015 (OP)
No a single bench in my gym has safeties...

>>76380138
>this is what a natty looks like lifting for 5 yrs
Grim af

>>76380015 (OP)
I saw a smith machine squat kill a man in person.

>>76381092
Machinebros we keep winning...

>>76380036
Niggerfaggot

>>76381092
Haha, no it doesn't. The only real difference is you have slices of pepperoni where you should have nipples.

>>76381192
Bro you trained for 5 years and you don't even look like you lift, you look like a guy who maybe swam for about 3 months.

>>76381204
>you don't even look like you lift
NTA but unironic dyel tranny spotted. Try working out for at least a couple of months little man and not just watch YT lmaoo

>>76381204
>>76381164
Nah this is what I looked like after lifting for maybe 2 years. I've just stayed the same, mostly because I don't go consistently. I'm very happy with how I look now and I've had a lot of compliments from men and women.

Back pic attached from last year.

Most of you are just deluded and/or schizo. My physique is great and I'd take looking like this any day over being a roider or fat-gut powerlifter.

Maybe I'll just train more this year so I can mog you even harder than I already do.

>>76381192
That wasn't me.

>>76380138
>>76381236
It is really impressive that you are able to bench 100kg, and please don't take it the wrong way, but your muscles don't look particularly impressive for the amount of effort you presumably put in.
I believe that we all started lifting because we want to look good, to have an edge in todays competitive dating scene. But some of us got distracted, some youtube influencers or strangers on the internet. We started to think that it matters how much we can bench on squat.
But in the real world, nobody cares about it. Only thing that matters is how you look. That's it. Impressing strangers on the internet isn't worth it.

>>76380211
This guy died (RIPped the neck) after failing a squat, though it is primarily on him for choosing to squat with a spotter instead of safeties, even if the spotter preventing him from safely bailing.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VEF3aJ4YoA0

>>76381092
>My body looks better than yours after 5 months of training without doing bench press.

Arms like that don't occur in 5 months. You're lying.

>>76381326
Why do some of you act as if no one likes lifting?

We need a name for people like you. Stop trying to live in the same spaces as people who actually like fitness.

>>76380015 (OP)
>>only popular exercise that can potentially kill you
>What’s the point in doing bench press when machines give the exact same benefit?
>What's the point
It can kill me, anon. That's the point. I enjoy the thrill

>>76381326
>Only thing that matters is how you look
A sad take. Men truly are becoming women

>>76381386
I don't know, to be it sounds like those people managed to improve one aspect of their life, but they don't have enough focus or drive to tackle other blind spots in their lifestyle, so they stay in their comfort zone and pour all their energy into lifting, despite diminishing returns.

>>76381398
What else matters? The opinion of strangers on the internet?

>>76381403
>so they stay in their comfort zone and pour all their energy into lifting, despite diminishing returns.

I see what you mean, that makes sense.

Some people need this because there's nothing for them in the rest of the world. It's like the modern equivalent of a monastery.

>>76381410
The feeling of being strong at lifting something that will have almost no practical use in your life

>>76381410
Your own opinion and your own enjoyment. Are you saying that if I don't blow you a kiss and slap you on the ass for lifting or for being lean you won't do those things?

>>76381419
>I see what you mean, that makes sense.
>
>Some people need this because there's nothing for them in the rest of the world. It's like the modern equivalent of a monastery.
Is this really so bad, though? Regardless, that doesn't make this inherently a bad activity.

It's akin to saying working is bad because workaholics neglect their families

>>76380106
>you can't say they aren't popular
because they are objectively popular

>>76381326
> but your muscles don't look particularly impressive for the amount of effort you presumably put in.
Yeah that's key here. The first time in my life I went to the gym was about 5 years ago, when I was 28. I am now turning 33 in a few weeks. The first year of gym I pissed around, doing lifts with too light of a weight, and not trying very hard. I'd go for 4 weeks straight, then not go for 3 weeks, then go for a week, then not go for 2 weeks, then go for 2 days, then not go for 2 months, then I'd go for 5 months. Extreme inconsistency.
The second year I was much more consistent, but I did not put in a solid year's worth of training. 2024 was by far my most productive year, where I went every day from Feb to about October.
I think my progress is exactly what you'd expect honestly knowing how hard I've tried. There was a period last year where I was substantially bigger at about 87kg (I'm 80kg in the pic.)
If I had gone 100% for 5 years, then yeah it would be pretty bad. But all I wanted was to stop being a skeleton, and for girls to actually like my body. I accomplished that goal. But maybe I should just go all out for a few years to see what my body is capable of before I hit my late 30s.

>>76381410
Reaching and maintaining an acceptable level of strength and athleticism which in turn will boost your confidence, staying healthy throughout your whole life instead of having your posture deteriorate while your muscles&bones wither away due to never being used. Looking good is just one aspect of working out, feeling good and being healthy will become higher priorities in your life as you grow older.

>>76380138
Honest question, were you lifting for five years aboard the ISS or something?

>>76382052
holy shit kek

>>76381236
>5 years to bench 100kg

There are 13 year olds that do this in less than a year

>>76380210
>doing dips
>bench built my chest
What is this fuckery?

>>76381164
He looks very good
>>76380138
You look very good, anon

>>76382812
Nta but I also like dippers and bencheronnis

>>76380138
that's it, i'm hopping on gear

>>76380015 (OP)
Just push that shit off of ya

>>76380015 (OP)
God I wish it would...

>>76381347
Man that video was brutal. Glad I only do all my excuses in my power cage with safeties. I would never trust any human spotter in my life. Not like their apology will mean nothing when I'm done, I will have to pay for the mistake with my own life.

>>76380036
>if you are pressing with retracted shoulders most of pectoralis muscle is wrapped around rib-cage and u wind up with droopy bitch bench tits with void in the middle
thats not how fucking anatomy works

>>76381236
its not that you didnt put the work in, its because you reach ur natty limit by year 2 or 3 and after that you are lucky to put even 2lbs of muscle a year, this is why people roid

>>76380015 (OP)
it's an ego lift
the number one ego lift people brag about, in fact. They even resort to frauding such as arching their back so they don't have to move the weight as much, and they count that as a rep when all they acheived was a free ticket to snap city

I am currently benching 70kg for reps and I'm worried about falling it on my neck. What is a good bench press alternative? Pressing machines hurt my shoulders

>>76383309
I thought you were supposed to arch your back? Are you not?

>>76383363
You want to be in a power cage / rack with a safety bar. You can go all out then without fear.

>>76383425
you are, flat back puts all the weight on your shoulders that are not made for that
you shouldn't have some huge powershitter arch but a moderate one is necessary to actually work the chest, let alone prevent injury

>>76380036
>dichotomy
Shut up, shut the fuck up. You say one more word about dichotomy and I'll let Yoda use you as a mop again

>>76383363
Just use the safeties, they're there for a reason. If your gym's bench does not have safeties then just do the roll of shame (lower it down onto your stomach and roll it down your body) or as a last resort tip the barbell to the sides so the plates fall off (you obviously don't use clips while benching solo for this reason.) While benching there shouldn't be any risk of dropping the weight down on your neck - you should never be handling weights that are so unwieldy or unmanageable for you that there's a risk of you randomly dropping the bar in an undesirable direction, even if you fail a PR attempt you should still have enough control over the bar to bail safely.

>>76383363
get a spotter, or use safeties. The bar only falls out of your hands if you use a thumbless grip, or as youre benching back up you hit the j-hooks.
>bench press alternative
no really much, but dips (you need a belt belt), incline bench, floor pressing (the bar will never hit your head or neck unless you have a giant head)
Just get used to it, dont max out, go for reps and youll be fine as long as you have a spotter.

>>76383363
The #1 way to drop the bar on your neck is to attempt to rerack the bar BEFORE you complete the rep
This happens in every video when somebody drops the bar onto their neck
What happens is
>pressing up
>rep is reeeaaallly hard
>start to panic
>monkey brain takes over
>try to press the bar directly towards the safeties over/above your head
>bar leaves the strength groove
>you can't hold it up anymore, it's out of your control
>comes straight down onto your neck
The solution is to NOT PANIC and instead, if you can't complete a rep, to LOWER THR BAR DIRECTLY DOWNWARDS UNDER CONTROL onto your lower chest. If you have set safeties properly, you will lower the bar onto them then you can crawl out and you're fine. If you don't have safeties, you will lower the bar slowly and calmly onto your ribcage and can then roll it down your body, then sit up and place it on the floor.
New lifters should PRACTICE the roll of shame and PRACTICE how to fail a rep safely, but they don't. It's literally the easiest thing ever, you just need to be calm and mindful in the moment so you don't panic and attempt to rerack a half rep.
And of course, do not use suicide grip

>>76383168
But I'm telling you I feel like I didn't train very hard

>>76380015 (OP)
squat is also popular and can kill you

>>76383363
Use dumbbells. It's a better exercise for hypertrophy anyway

>>76380015 (OP)
Honestly id prefer a neutral grip for shoulder health most of the time.

>>76380015 (OP)
doing anything in life can kill you, especially if you're retarded. stop being a pussy

>>76380015 (OP)
Squat is far more dangerous