There's literally zero reason to ever do flat bench press instead of incline.
You will never have an overdeveloped upper chest.

>>76385730 (OP)
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>>76385730 (OP)
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How well does it hit the lower chest?

It’s one chest

>>76385730 (OP)
>say that to my face and not online and see what happened

>>76385730 (OP)
Where I’m gonna get a good benchod bro

I don't own an inclining bench

>>76385938
They’re like 50 bucks>>76385791

>>76386265
I live on an island so they're like 300 bux
double if I want one that will let me lift a reasonable amount of weight
I am so sick of buying equipment and finding out it's flimsy chink shit

>>76385730 (OP)
I have one good reason to do normal flat bench. I like it more.

>>76385730 (OP)
Maybe learn to hit upper chest better? I mean i might be lying or wrong here but 60+% of all my pressing is flat bench because it takes less effort to brace and i just do flatback a lot and am good at actually nailing hypertrophy, you want form tips or something?

>>76386302
>in that my upper chest seems developed proportionally enough just mmcing flat bench instead of having to switch with incline ill do it after or the next day

>>76385938
reverse grip bench = upper chest no incline needed

>>76385779
The human chest

>>76386289
learn to weld and make one
then sell them

>>76386289
Buy once, cry once. Stop thinking like a poor nigger. You don't need the premium model, but buy something in the mid class with good rating/reviews

>barbell flat bench
>db incline bench
Solved

>>76385730 (OP)
>do flat bench press and machine incline chest press

Tell me I'm wrong for doing this for chest

>>76385730 (OP)
been stuck at lmao1plate for almost half a year.
I add 10s plates and I cant do more than 3 reps.
But im about to reach 225 flat bench. literally wtf

>>76387364
add 5s instead of 10s retard

>>76387364
your delts weak

>>76387115
>mid class with good ratings/reviews
do not exist here
it's either commercial equipment that's been specially shipped, so it's 5x as expensive as it should be and you don't even get the commercial customer service
or it's box welded chink shit that doesn't sit flat, and isn't rated for more than 130kg, and still costs a retarded amount of cash
I wish I were an american, so I could take a life at random every time a bad thing happened to me
>>76387101
without being an economy of scale or a logistics company, getting the steel here will cost me more than the bench
for me, it is time to make the wooden incline bench

>>76385730 (OP)
do both you fucking moron
also flat bench is probably the most fun exercise, no way im gonna lose out on enjoyment for your gay exercise "science" or whatever the fuck

>>76385730 (OP)
you so called "upper chest" is actually miniscule compared to the whole chest, so do whatever angle you are still hitting the whole pec

>>76387238
Machines might not give you a good pump, none of them are made for the same person or allow you to alter rom at all besides panatta shit that seems cool.

But youre missing upper chest doms from properly engaging knuckles and pushing in with them like a fly. Now how to translate a movement that a least indomt like to do heavy into heavy form idk why youd do it, but yeah rom and shit.

>>76385730 (OP)
Im changing my program to shit i dropped when form was shit causing injuries

>3-5x1-4 bench, chest hyperteophy style but wide grip
>pullups just all day and rows 2-3 sets after bench before arms/delts etc
>db skullcrushers and tri grip bar, i went into the gym and could do 1 rep of 110 one day after no cable training
>strict hyperteophy incline and delts, i seem to only grow with freq work and going 100% just takes me out of the gym

>>76386999
Checked and kek'd

>>76385730 (OP)
>I started watching fitness youtube last month

>>76385730 (OP)
I have an overdeveloped lower chest and I can't figure out how to get my upper chest more balanced out with the lower part. Did way too many dips since I was a teenager.

>>76388399
Just do overhead press and incline bench.

>>76385730 (OP)
literally false. i have seen so many guys with comical upper chest and then completely nothing, nada zip zero in the middle / lower half of the chest. it looks like absolute fucking shit and gives that sloppy droopy gyno look.

imo almost everyone should do just decline. or just normal bench is the golden mean but you really cant go wrong with switching incline to decline.

>>76385730 (OP)
IMPORTANT THREAD QUESTION:
There's two different techniques for incline bench, lowering the bar straight down vertically (hitting the clavicle), or lowering it like normal bench (hitting on the chest). Proponents of both swear their method targets the upper chest more, but which do you use/which is better? I've looked at training videos from various Mr Olympia level bodybuilders and both seem equally common.

>>76388715
Try both and see which one hits your upper chest more?

>>76387364
I have the opposite problem
My Incline is 75kg(166lbs)for 5 reps and my flat is 81kg(178lbs) for 5 reps. My OHP is 61kg(135lbs) x 5.

>>76385730 (OP)
you're right, but dont take this to mean you shouldn't hit flat bench. you still need to hit your lower chest

>>76387238
that's perfectly fine.

In the somewhat likely case you feel like you get weird shoulder clicking or elbow pain, it could be useful to drop weight on flat bench and/or do barbell/dumbbell incline (or even dumbbell flath bench) to target stabilizer muscles

Also, for most ppl benching below 2 plates you should incorporate facepulls/some other rear delt exercise on your pull days--super important for properly retracting your scapula during bench

>>76388776
This

>>76388399
do at least 5 sets of some incline press on your chest days

>>76388715
ehhh it depends on how wide your grip is, and also you might be misinterpreting what's going on. when you ever do any type of pressing motion you should have the bar traveling in a straight path. when your grip is wider, you will naturally bias your upper chest more and less of your triceps. trade off is that it's uncomfortable and you probably have undeveloped stabilizer muscles that could you to start frauding your reps as the weight gets shifted away from your upper chest.

>>76389059
>motion you should have the bar traveling in a straight path

you should NEVER have

holy fuck im such a retard

>>76388715
To clavicle is upper to mid pec and almost no lower and to nipples just above the sternum is less upper, more mid and just the tip of lower pec(but not full lower pec).
>HURR DURR YOU CAN'T HIT DIFFERENT STRAINS OF YOUR PEC MUSCLE
YES! YES you can do incline until you have DOMS and try to do pull-ups or chin-ups the next day, you will feel your upper pec giving out but you still can do push-ups(which are more lower pec) same with glutes, just because it's grouped together doesn't mean you can't activate it differently.

>>76385938
Imagine not standing at a 30 degree incline when benching. I would hate to be that weak.

>>76385730 (OP)
I've been switching between incline and decline bench.

>>76390712
Big mistake, big mistake.

>>76385730 (OP)
Im so weak at it i have to do it like a recovery exercise till my delts arent too small for my chest. I hink thats why people have fucked up shoulders benching and incline inused to literally strain my rotstor cuff dbs or bb every time.

I like incline bench too because leg driving is a lot easier

I hate the form you need on the flat bench

>>76386999
kek

>>76386999
Maybe for you

>>76385730 (OP)

>What is bicep tendonitis