STOP TRAINING YOUR PECS. #NEVERBENCH

>>76388409 (OP)
No. I love benching and I mog you.

Oh no... Tom has gone senile

>>76388421
no you don't

and you will look like shit

the ugly truth /fit/tards dont want to acknowledge: pecs are a vanity muscle, and are not needed in any meaningful way for normal activities, even if they involve strenuous hard work

>>76388431
Wrong. A good built chest is the foundation of a good looking body. You must be Indian...

>>76388409 (OP)
This is one thing I had noticed, every guy that had developed pecs in their youth, looks like shit once they age. I guess it's because the surface area of your pecs is large so it stretches more skin than other muscle groups.

>>76388623
nah, youre probably the indian here

actually post body and lets see those bitch tits

How far will 200 push ups a day get me as a beginner (28 yo, 6ft 200 lbs)

>>76388650
nowhere

do pull ups instead

>>76388409 (OP)
1 bench primarily targets the triceps
2 are you seriously using Tom Cruise, a 60+ yo actor,to make a point about what lifters in their 20s-40s should be doing

>>76388673
sure if you want to have big juicy gay pecs go ahead

dont shoot the messenger

>>76388683
>Muscles are gay
Says the twink. No I will not skip my meals to waste away into your victim weight daddy. Go back to /lgbt/ stupid faggot.

>>76388659
No pull up bar

>>76388692
i said big pecs are gay. dont put words in my mouth indian

>>76388650
>>76388693
if you're willing to buy a kettlebell you could probably achieve this physique with kettlebell exercises and push-ups alone

>>76388628
Burden of proof is on the claimant, nigger. Post your chest. Let's see your completely flat underdeveloped chest if you insist it looks better. It's common convention to train pecs for aesthetics, you say you shouldn't, so lead by example and post your body. You won't.

>>76388627
That's because they AGED you complete retard. It's not exactly surprising Arnold has saggy tits, he's almost fucking 80.

>>76388701
The only gay thing here is you and your pathetic twink body. I could bench you so hard you'd split in two.

>>76388409 (OP)
>stop looking good in your youth so you can look average when you're 60!
?

>>76388409 (OP)
That's just hgh.

>>76388683
>if you want to have big juicy gay pecs
this is a bodybuilding forum, this is literally what everyone here wants, if you dont, get the fuck out

tom cruise has never been buff you dense fuck

>>76388409 (OP)
I want pecs thatre half my torso

>>76388409 (OP)
Cruise looks like he doesn't do overhead pressing. Those pecs look like lots of decline and/or "functional" (LOL) exercise like pushups.

His age is not an excuse here, as he is reasonably lean and still has decent muscle mass, its just that he never built the shoulders, upper traps and upper chest (not just pecs, but the whole upper chest/front delt complex is lacking).

Dude needs massive amounts of incline bench, overhead press and something tells me he skipped chinup day, too.

Also, stop doing situps and crunches. Look at hat that stupidly hypertrophied waist.

>>76388673
His age is no excuse, as he is still lean and decently muscled. Its precisely what he failed to do as a 20-40yo that causes the dogshit look we see here now.

>>76388527
>pecs are a vanity muscle, and are not needed in any meaningful way for normal activities,
Pecs are used for hugging. bigger pecs means bigger hugs, means bigger love.

>>76388963
So aging causes your skin to stretch and sag only selectively in your pectorial area? Retard.
Aging simply causes muscle wasting, which makes the skin sag, so if you had big disgusting cowtits, there will be more sag, compared to your arms or other muscles downsizing.

>>76388409 (OP)
This always happens to roidtroons lmao, why do they keep falling for it?

>>76389130
>Pecs are used for hugging. bigger pecs means bigger hugs, means bigger love.
if so then why are we benching for pecs and not hugging for pecs?

>>76388527
I was about to comment this. Maybe not so much on the vanity aspect. You will absolutely look like shit if you have big shoulders and no pecs. There could be a line separating vanity from aesthetics.

>>76389272

>>76388527
except, you know, literally anything that involves pushing

>>76388963
He's saying big pecs as a youth look like shit when you get older vs guys that have flat chests.

>>76389307
that isn't hugging bot, hugging is when u pull sth into your torso and u want to reach as far as possible around hugged thing i.e. protract yer shoulder

this is akin to slapping somebody, peck deck has zero to do with hugging, and almost zero to do with pecs :D

i am being dead serious here bot:
>>76389272
>>Pecs are used for hugging. bigger pecs means bigger hugs, means bigger love.
>if so then why are we benching for pecs and not hugging for pecs?

hugging basketball to chest unilaterally (with forearm not palm but that's beside the point) in full forearm supination grows pictured
>that's van dam
that's properly developed long head of biceps, and yes i did notice pecs being sore sometimes day after
cause u are damn right in your faux ridicule here bot:
>>76389130
>Pecs are used for hugging. bigger pecs means bigger hugs, means bigger love.
hugging means shoulder protraction, and shoulder protraction is necessary to unglue pecs from rib-cage and allow all of pec muscle fibers to work all the way to sternum

>>76379907

>>76389544
meds?

>>76389544
oh this retard again

>>76388527
t. retard who never did any kind of manual labour

>>76389174
>>76389426
All old men have saggy chests, retards. Besides, who cares what you're chest will look like when you're 70?

>>76389544
you are the biggest faggot in the world. shut the fuck up.

>>76388527
I use my pecs several times thoughout the day to swirl water samples

>>76388527
Pecs are used for defense, not offense. They are like armor protecting you from hits on the upper body.

>>76388527
>>76388409 (OP)
BASED! Big pecs are a faggot trend.
>>76389130
you hug with your back, retard.
>>76389308
you don't push with pecs.
>>76389610
pecs are utterly useless for manual labor.
>>76389666
>defense is getting hit in the chest
whatever you say lala homoman.

>>76388683
>>76388692
no he is right, big pecs is a faggot only thing that is very, veeery recent, it's a complete made up thing that 99.99% of history was not a thing until some faggots invented gay exercises to get big man tits.

>>76389117
>Cruise looks like he doesn't do overhead pressing.
now overhead press is functional, unlike gaybench.

>>76389635
I use my pecs to hug this nigga while he swirls water samples

>>76389939
Anyone who uses gloves for training must die

>>76390248
>noo what will other people think?!
pussy

>>76389939
everything you said is completely 100% correct.

>>76388693

If you are a human being and you are not willing to find a place where you can put your cum stained hands on and pull your 58kg body up a couple of times you are not worthy of the gains the beautiful exercise provides.

>>76389617
>Besides, who cares what you're chest will look like when you're 70?
my 40yo wife

>>76392260
Why? Are you gonna play bingo shirtless?

>>76389939
Just look at any greek or roman statue of zeus, atlas, hercules etc;

>>76392314
>look at statues
sure, lets look at fertility statues made by fat women and say this is how all women should look like

>>76388527
It feels good when you touch them though.

>>76390527
Do you realize what thread you're in?

>>76388527
i used to clean carpets and you'd have to push this big ass machine around and it would use my pecs a heap

>>76392433
I never noticed it for pecs, but loading up a trash bin with 30 or more gallons of water and pulling it around is great arm workout.

>>76389939
Pic would look significantly better if he had a more defined and pronounced chest
He just has a flat flab of nothing

>>76394096
>Pic would look significantly better if he had a more defined and pronounced chest
why do you think the opinion of faggots matters?

>>76388409 (OP)
All my life I did only dumbell incline press for chest. Can not stand flat bench let alone barbell. Only fatsos do that shit.

>>76388527
*pushes you over*

>>76389557
>no bot
yeah, i fucking hate this asshole.

>>76388527
Just train arms heavy and your chest and shoulders grow just enough to keep up

>>76394310
if it doesnt why did you bother typing that? faggot

>>76388409 (OP)
Hmm... I don't think I will.
T. 4plate bench at 205 lbs. Girls, trannies, and faggots all love my juicy pecs.

>>76388409 (OP)
Older guys like Tom and Arnold need to get it through their thick heads that they look like bloated gasbags when they bulk up at their age. If you still want to look sexy and healthy, it's time for you to slim down.

>>76395880
He also has that thick unaesthetic bloated core.

>>76389308
front delts and triceps are the primary muscles in that

>>76395832
trannies and faggots maybe

>>76395880
Tom looks great.
And Arnold being bulky is his brand.

>>76388409 (OP)
Good job my pecs are shit then. Used to train them as much as everything else, then have tried doubling up on the freq/vol, scrutinized my form incase I was leaving it all up to front delt etc, still shit. Must be a genetic insertion issue or whatever.

>>76395880
their organs and linings have permanently enlarged via growth hormones and they literally cannot slim down

>>76396987
its your body trying to keep you from looking like shit

>>76388428
lol
Can you imagine being Tom Cruise? What a swell guy. SUPER HIGHLY BIGLY successful. Very good looking, lets be honest here. Not all political and shit.
Jeez.
>>You could call him Top Gun

Sorry for working chest, anon. I'll stop once the mentally ill enbies and other bpd-adjacent hoes stop gushing when I pec bounce.

If you train pecs for anything other than strength youre a fag

>>76389000
Bad shoulder to waist ratio

>>76388527
I just recently re wrote my program to prioritise shoulders over pecs, I’ve cared too much about chest for too long and I look very mid with a narrow frame

>>76388527
>He believed when they said bench press is the goat for chest, did it and got no results, now tells everybody chest development is gay

If you knew how chest doms felt, you'd soon understand which movements incorporate chest.

>>76388409 (OP)
>>76388527
>not wanting a bigger home for your heart
YWNMI

>>76388725
He has a point, but dont the groups he mention have other goals? He is talking about gymbros wanting to quickly muscle up and so dairy protein is more bioavailable and better for the body to use in this instance since they can get as much as possible quickly with little effort.
Vegans arent naturally into body building. Yes they can eat beans and broccoli for their protein intake, but their goal was never to truly build muscle but instead stay lean and survive with the essential nutrients needed. This dude then takes of his shirt to show me what exactly? He obviously doesnt do any strenuous work or wants to... he is just a man living and the body shows it. He is not competing visually (body building) or physically (strong man competition) or exisiting in a physical environment requiring muscles (construction, manual labour, rock climbing, hiking, any other sport) so what is his point?

>>76389130
>love
That’s for homos.