what's the 'sensus on onions, does it have feminizing effects or nah?

>>76403848 (OP)
No. Just a case of internet schizos seeing a word they recognize and thinking they're onto a conspiracy.

>>76403848 (OP)
Estrogen is good for you

>>76403848 (OP)
There have been literally 0 feminizing effects seen on humans, from eating a fucking plant, come the fuck on

>>76403848 (OP)
It's a staple in vegan diets because it's very nutritious so its consumption will naturally correlate with effeminate men who went vegan for effeminate reasons. Monkey sees the effeminate man, monkey sees the effeminate man consumes onions, monkey makes the typical monkey error of ocnfusing correlation with causation, mokney concludes onions made the man effeminate.

In another news, I have never seen a person in a wheelchair that wasn't a cripple, so i made the logical conlusion that wheelchairs must be causing legs to stop working and decided i will take them away from people to help them. I did this to 5 grannies just this week, I hope they regain their ability to walk soon. I've heard them screaming at me and i can only assume these were words of gratitude and encouragement.

>>76403928
Wait until this retard finds out how estrogen is created in laboratories. (Hint: they literally use söy).
There’s a surprising number of plants that fuck with human hormones.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15735098/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10798211/

Theres a lot of samefagging going on here. Just as you can expect from söy guzzlers

Nah. That part is overblown.

But the quality of the protein isn't great (so you need to eat a lot), and the carbs-to-protein ratio also isn't amazing.

>>76403848 (OP)
The phytoestrogens in onions block estrogen receptors without activating them, this stops other estrogens from activating the receptor, effectively making phytoestrogens in onions anti-estrogenic.
>>76403941
They use the same plant derived sterols to synthesize testosterone you retard

>>76403979
>without activating them,
not entirely
>>76403848 (OP)
case studies show that excessive sőy and especially sőy isolate/milk/fluor WILL cause gyno, however these amounts far exceed what the average /fit/izen eats or drinks in one day. A bottle of sőylent per day for like a year however is sufficient to cause gyno

>>76403979
>They use the same plant derived sterols to synthesize testosterone you retard
No shit. Thanks for telling us something that we already knew.

>>76403962
As always, 99% posts agreeing is moxyte schizo samefagging. Just ignore him, he's completely deranged

>>76404000
So you KNOW that you're a dipshit who said something completely retarded and now you're trying to gaslight me in to feeling like the stupid one

Personally I avoid it but about a billion Asians who don’t have gyno prove it’s not that significant. Body fat is more powerfully estrogenizing than this plant.

I do eat a lot of pinto beans and I don’t worry about it at all.

>>76403848 (OP)
The isoflavones in onions bind to androgen receptors and estrogen receptors and prevents testosterone from binding to it so yes avoid it like the plauge

>>76403942
TLDR:
>studies found that testosterone decreased when onions protein was consumed vs non-onions

Thank you very much, case closed. Onions “bois” in shambles forever

>>76404087
LOL wtf, 4chan censors the word “soi”??

>>76403848 (OP)
jews say it's good for you so I don't eat it

>>76403941
>red phosphorus is a precursor to methamphetamine therefore you can high snorting crushed matchheads
Been skipping "basic fucking hs chemistry" days lately?

>>76404135
There’s been multiple studies proving that söy has effect on human hormonal levels. I know this might be uncomfortable for you to hear.

>>76403871
i mean from what i've seen from troons they get better hair better skin lower body fat , etc from transitioning , estrogen might be based, is test the enemy?

>>76404148
Nta but estrogen is respobsible for test production in males. Something so easy to look up and this thread is always up. What a useless place. No wonder it's mostly dyels. You dont even lift.

>>76404160
>In summary, while estrogen and testosterone are both important hormones in the body, they have distinct roles, and estrogen does not directly cause testosterone production. They are both involved in reproductive health and development, but they are produced by different mechanisms and have different primary functions.

chatgpt cooked u bro

>>76404167
Yes, estrogen does influence testosterone levels in men, primarily through negative feedback on the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal (HPG) axis.

Here’s how it works:


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The HPG Axis (Hormonal Control System)

1. Hypothalamus releases GnRH (gonadotropin-releasing hormone)


2. GnRH stimulates the pituitary gland to release:

LH (luteinizing hormone) stimulates testosterone production in the testes

FSH (follicle-stimulating hormone) supports sperm production
3. Testosterone (and some of it converted into estradiol, a form of estrogen) then:

Feeds back to the hypothalamus and pituitary

Inhibits further release of GnRH, LH, and FSH
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Estrogen's Role

In men, estrogen is mostly made from testosterone via the enzyme aromatase

Once produced, estrogen acts as a brake on the HPG axis, just like testosterone

This reduces LH and FSH, which in turn lowers testosterone production
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Clinical Example: Too Much Estrogen

High estrogen levels (from obesity, liver issues, or aromatase overactivity) can:

Suppress LH and FSH

Decrease natural testosterone production

Cause symptoms like low libido, fatigue, gynecomastia (man boobs), infertility
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Bottom Line:

> Yes, estrogen influences testosterone in men — mainly by suppressing testosterone production through hormonal feedback mechanisms.
Let me know if you want to explore what affects aromatase activity or how estrogen blockers work in TRT or bodybuilding.

>>76404251
>estrogen is respobsible for test production

thats what u said dumbfuck

>You can safely eat 1-3 servings per day
That is not a lot, at all. This is "It's okay, but consume in moderation" at best. Certainly nothing like the superfood-staple status that vegans give the stuff.

>>76403928
SO true, sis!
>hits blunt
There is LITERALLY,
>drinks a liter of fermented grain
literally zero evidence
>eats a cup of granulated sugar
that something that comes from a plant
>rubs poison ivy on skin
could have a chemical effect on you!

>>76404260
Great question — this is one of the most common concerns tied to onions products, especially among men.


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Does onions milk lower testosterone?

No, not in any meaningful or clinically significant way — unless consumed in extremely excessive amounts over a long period of time.

Why the concern?

Onions contains isoflavones (like genistein and daidzein), which are phytoestrogens — plant compounds that can bind weakly to estrogen receptors. This has led to fears they might lower testosterone or “feminize” men.


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What does the evidence say?

Human studies (not animals):

Meta-analysis (2010, Fertility & Sterility) looked at over 30 studies:

> “Neither onions foods nor isoflavone supplements affect testosterone levels in men.”
Another 2021 review reconfirmed this: no consistent evidence that normal onions intake affects male hormones.
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But what about extreme cases?

There are a few isolated case reports of men consuming very large amounts of onions milk (like 3–12 quarts per day) and experiencing:

Gynecomastia (breast development)

Low libido

Fatigue


Example:

> A 60-year-old man drank 3 liters of onions milk per day (~9–12 servings) for months and had low testosterone symptoms. When he stopped, his hormones returned to normal.
(Source: Siepmann et al., 2011)
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So… how much is too much?

Onions Milk Amount Effect on Testosterone

1–2 cups/day (~250–500 mL) Safe, no effect
3–6 cups/day (750–1500 mL) Still likely fine, but high for daily intake
2+ liters/day (over 2 quarts) Possible hormonal effects if sustained long-term
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Bottom Line:

> Moderate onions milk intake (1–2 cups a day) is totally safe and won’t impact testosterone levels.
You'd likely need to drink liters per day for weeks or months to even begin seeing negative effects — and even then, those effects are reversible.

>>76404148
Ywnbaw

>>76403848 (OP)
I don't think subsidizing a few crops (mainly onions and corn) and making them the bulk of our diet is positive in the long term. However, I also think in 3-4 generations the long term, irreversible effects of plastic being in literally every single organism will make these debates look even more retarded than they are, while humans gradually decline and degrade until we can't even procreate.

pretty sure fermented is perfectly fine

>>76403848 (OP)
No
>>76403979
Post proof that phytoestrogens actually cause competitive inhibition
>>76404148
What the fuck are you talking about? They gain fat and lose muscle
>>76404160
>>76404167
>>76404251
Aromatase moment

>>76403848 (OP)
>does it have feminizing effects or nah
It is somehow used in supplements for menopausal women but doesnt have any feminizing effects, hm

>>76403848 (OP)
No. Eat as much onions as you want :3

>>76403979
Post your source

>>76403848 (OP)
It's fine, but there are better sources of protein

Sengoku-era samurai ate loads of tofu and no one calls them effeminate

>>76403848 (OP)
Nah it’s alright. The biggest issue was when Reddit and other “I hekin love science!” shitholes tried so hard to push it as some amazing vegan whole meal replacer. Shit like Onions is an awful meal replacer and includes fuck all protein. Basedbeans in general are pretty low on the nutrients scale.

>>76403848 (OP)
It depends on how refined it is. Soibean, tofu, soi sauce... that's actually gonna almost do what this guy says. >>76403979 It doesn't not activate though, it's just weak.
But an impossible burger every day will turn you into a faggot. It has something like a million times more estrogen in it. Not so weak anymore.

>they can't juꜱt ꜱay ꜱoy
Anyway no ꜱoy is a SERM when taken in high enough doses. You'll never reach those doses on ꜱoybean or ꜱoy processed food alone because it would take 45000 calories of ꜱoybean alone to get a SERM effect.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11603644/
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/07315724.2001.10719168
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11784794/
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/298848707_Soy_isoflavones_-_Benefits_and_risks_from_nature%27s_selective_estrogen_receptor_modulators_SERMs
It's just a bean man.