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Any other /fit/izens playing around with any unusual supplements? I’ve narrowed my core tried and true supplements that I run year round down to a very simple regimen for general health purposes
>10,000iu vitamin D/200mcg k2
>50mg zinc/2mg copper (not pictured
>1200mg NAC
>3600mg fish oil
>600mg CoQ10
After a ton of research, last week I added a ton of shit to try to maximize my cognitive abilities in preparation for starting calculus and organic chemistry this fall. I never graduated high-school, so I knew literally nothing about math and had to take a semester of remedial retard math before moving on to pre-calculus algebra and then trig (aced them all). Getting a good grasp on calculus is a necessity, as I need to take calc 1/2 plus differential equations AND calc based physics 1/2. The other issues I have that psychiatrists haven’t been able to help with are insomnia and a crippling general anxiety disorder, so I’ve decided to try to fix my brain on my own.
>1mg 2x/week CJC-1295 with DAC
>333mcg 2x/day ipamorelin
>333mcg DSIP at bedtime
>5mg Epitalon at bedtime (for ten days)
>3mg selank/day
>1mg semax/day
>500mg NMN 2x/day
>500mg alpha GPC 2x/day
>1000mg citicoline 2x/day
>1000mg aniracetam in AM
>250mg DMAE
So far there has been noticeable improvements in verbal fluency and longterm memory recall as well as massively increased short term memory. I work as a server at a high end restaurant so I have to talk with guests for hours on end and I need to remember a million little things for wine and multitasking, and my sleep has gone from taking hours to fall asleep and then waking 4-5x during the night to passing out in 15-20 minutes and sleeping 6-8 hours without waking (dreams are also absolutely wild). So far so good bros, would recommend.
>>76410921 (OP)I like tadalafil
>>76410921 (OP)>50mg zincWait bro don't do this you'll fuck yourself up. I don't even know why they're allowed to sell this dosage prepacked and over the counter.
>>76410921 (OP)I just eat normal food
>>76410921 (OP)>taking zinc toxicity levels of zinc daily>for your healthI got the zinc shakes from zinc fumes once, tried a zinc supp a year later and got the same thing, no idea why anyone would do this shit
>>76410921 (OP)Don't take zinc, don't take the other retarded *citam or *line nonsense, especially don't bother with GH secretagogues
>>76410923>>76410932hypothetically if you wasted money buying 50mg zinc supplement but cut it in quarters for 12.5mg zinc tablets could you take those safely so your money wasn't wasted?
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>>76410923>>76410932You do realize that it isn’t pure zinc, right? The molecule is massive, and the other atoms in the compound account for most of its mass..
>>76410935Nah
>>76410926this nigga is JERFing off, y'all
>>76410938typically the amount of zinc listed on the label is approximately the amount of zinc. 50mg is far too little to be anything else. if you see something like "1,000mg zinc" then yeah that's poor labeling and includes the molecule the zinc is bound to. 50mg zinc daily is probably too much.
>>76410991>>76410996Is 12.5mg okay? Actually, is 25mg okay? Cutting into 1/4th is a pain but I'll do it if I have to.
>>76410964the zinc is the effective dose of zinc, not total mass of the molecule. This is trivial to prove with a selective solvent and some time. 50mg is the upper threshold for toxicity symptoms, most people see those below that level.
>>7641099925 is fine if your diet is dogshit,
12.5 is good if you eat whole foods
50 is fine if you're boozing yourself to death eating box dinner 3 meals a day
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>>76411000Thanks bro, I’ll adjust the zinc
>>76410921 (OP)>unusual supplementsCan we at least get something rarer than 7,8-DH, DIM, or HMB? These threads always be like...
>"durr creatine r so advance i r genus!"Here some real next-level shit:
>Anti-aging Effects of Ethylhexanamide Serinol Through the Enhancement of Autophagy>https://koreascience.kr/article/JAKO202519961204572.page>>76410991I've eaten more zinc with good copper skills.
>>76411022taking more copper does nothing for zinc toxicity. if you're taking them together you could be preventing the absorption of one or the other
>>76411026Bigly zinc toxicity sure, but mild zinc overload you're basically just looking at copper deficiency from increased copper excretion in terms of problems.
>>76411030Are you also taking multi? 50mg zinc could actually be 60mg or 65mg with multi.
>>76411032Not that guy, but anybody who is even minimally informed about supplements immediately ditches the multivitamin for proper doses of things that are actually useful
>>76411038i disagree a multi is one of the easiest safest things you can take
>>76411038Are they that bad?
>>76411060>>76411062Most multivitamins have so many compounds they try to fit into a reasonably sized serving that most are pathetically under dosed, and most of it is redundant if you eat a decent diet.
It makes more sense to supplement the things that are difficult to get enough of or simply don’t exist in food.
I gave a shot at some unusual supplements recently.
Mucuna: no effect.
NAC: no effect.
Honestly the unusual stuff does not work really well.
The supplement that changed my life the most was B-12 injections. Literally life changing just a few hours after you take it.
>>76411082>b12 injections>finasteride>tadalafil>vitamin D>maybe a multivitamin if I have been eating like shitThis is my daily stack and I'm quite healthy
It is amazing the amount of men that would be happier if they were taking fin + tad every day. Stop sweating about your hairline and/or about your cock, just take these harmless pills and you'll always be diamond hard and with a full head of hair, it's that simple
>>76411085>harmless pillsinb4 dick quits from fin.
>he isn't doing three dozen topical research chemicals and plant extracts instead
>>76411104>dick quits from finThis is what the tadalafil is for. My baseline was 80%, fin took it down to 50%, tadalafil made it 100% and it's been at that for 5 years now. Tadalafil never stops working.
>>76411076the dose is usually around 100% dv so worst case scenario u wont become deficient in anything
if you are religious about diet and bloodwork then yeah, dont take a multi
>>76411108>multi reduces biological aginghttps://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/cir.151.suppl_1.008
>multi reduces cancer riskhttps://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/1380451
these were fairly massive trials with positive outcomes.
>>76410922>>76411105I started taking tadalafil. I can get harder when getting hard happens, but I still can't get hard when I want to.
>>76411129How much are you taking, how often, how long before sex? I take 10mg once per week and 5mg 6 days per week at morning, it never failed me. You have to take it way before you actually need it and maintain it in your body.
>>76411082Both Mucuna and NAC have strong effects for me
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>>76410921 (OP)>hello fellow nootropic/peptide enjoyer. I haven’t tried Selank yet, how does it differ from semax? It’s more for anxiety right?
>>76411189Maybe you just need to load by taking more than 5mg at least once. I'd try 20mg at once (don't take this every day or more often than once every 3 days) and see if it works any better.
>>76411198Thanks. I notice I'm harder than natural when jerking off to anime but when I'm around real women I still can't get hard with willpower. It's a real problem. They'll think I'm weird.
>>76410921 (OP)My stack is
>10,000iu vitamin D/200mcg k2>1 serving of grass fed beef liver pillsHonestly don't know if the vit D is doing anything but the beef liver has my nails and hair growing fast as hell. Also helped reduced my eye strain on computer as its full of retinol vitamin A
>>76411263Also beef liver pills are basically a natural multivitamin that's high in everything compared to a normal multivitamin
>>76411269no beef liver is too high in some things and well below daily value in others. great nutrition but not a true replacement
>>76410921 (OP)https://youtu.be/9wT_rtIldmE?si=ruxm8OZDmWjLZ-gS
Been taking zinc occasionally. Certain days 25mg, other days i cut the pill in half and take 12.5mg, but i don't take it every day. more like 2-3x weekly. I don't have to supplement copper, right?
>>76411527>I don't have to supplement copper, right?If you get at least a milligram or two a day on average from diet/water, no. Otherwise, yeah unless you want to start greying like Bryan Johnson.
>>76411533I do take foods that probably have copper in them, but i doubt i get enough every day. I eat whole grain bread every day, but liver, fish, nuts are more a once every couple of weeks thing. Do i reduce risk of deficiency the less frequent i take zinc? i only started using zinc because i thought it would be beneficial for gym, not because of a perceived deficiency.
>>76411555If you're not getting much dietary copper, adding in a few 2mg copper pills erry week ain't a bad idea. No need to go much higher unless you're on a lot more zinc, like 60mg+.
Ok, say I just want white pearly coom. What supps should I take?
i take 200 mg magnesium citrate at evening and 375 mg magnesium oxide at morning for my shitting problems
Current stack: D3+K2, Omega-3
I always take them right after my 4-egg breakfast. Does this negatively interfere with any micros?
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>>76410921 (OP)>whatsurstackbrahfaggots the lot of ye
>>76411179Absolutely based stack here
>>76411060Easy and safe is not the safe and useful or effective
>>76411108The problem is the form of the vitamins that are included in multivitamins have virtually no bioavailability.
>>76411929My multivitamin lists the actual forms used and everything is tip top
Added new stuff.
copper 2mg - for my skin and grey hair, seems to be graying faster after like 2 months of 50mg zinc daily. Zinc/copper balance even if I do eat red meat and (rarely) chicken liver.
cdp-choline - some say its good for your brain, though I felt more energetic and less sleepy midday on it.
melatonin 5mg - seems helping when taken earlier (9pm) , took them at 12am before and made me groggy in the morning.
>>76411694>that first sip of the day
>>76410921 (OP)What about MK677 ? Anyone got experience of using this growth hormone stimulant?
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>>76412085Also known as Ibutamoren
>>76412085>>76412088I didn’t like it. It didn’t work as advertised for me, but then again this was a while ago and I didn’t make sure the place I got it had 3rd party testing posted on their site. Both of the vendors I used in the OP have their results from independent mass spectrometry analyses posted on their sites also it’s all legit.
>>76411179Yeah, selank allegedly has shown to be effective as an anxiolytic. I didn’t feel like dihexa did anything, but it looks like we have the same idea here.
>>76410921 (OP)Taking anything other than omega 3s from algae, creatine, vit D, and b12 is retarded. sorry.
>>76410921 (OP)I had to stop taking NAC I think it was making me more depressed than usual, I started it and didnt want to work out for like a week
>>76412124>It didn’t work as advertised for meThanks for answering.
Did you have crazy hunger pain (are you sure it was real) also did you work out while taking it?
I have found suppliers on ChatGPT and am just getting info before I press buy.
>>76411977>My multivitamin lists the actual forms usedThis is the case for literally all vitamins.
>everything is tip topWeird how you didn't post it then.
>>76410921 (OP)Protein
Creatine
Multivitamin
Ashwaghanda ksm 66
Tongak ali
cordycep sinese cs4
>>76410921 (OP)>taking zinc AND copper>taking CoQ10>all the other gay shit in the second part of the textLOL
LOL
>>76412223I'll help you out. NAC chelates both zinc and copper, and you need to supplement both of them if you're taking it.
>>76412230So you're taking a bunch of supplements that outcompete each other for absorption and you top it off with another supplement to further reduce boths absorption?
Sar, have you thought about just not taking any of them?
>>76412235I'm not that guy. I'm just telling you that some supplements require co-factors.
>>76412235I'm not that guy. I'm just telling you that some supplements require co-factors.
>you're taking a bunch of supplements that outcompete each other for absorption and you top it off with another supplement to further reduce boths absorption?That's not what I said at all.
>>76412243Sorry lil bro but chomping down on heavy metal contaminated expensive piss enhancers is hilarious. If you don't do 7 hours of cardio a week and eat 100 g + of fibre a day, you are not even CLOSE to maximising yourself.
>>76412271I already said, I'm not that guy, I'm just giving you information. But whatever ends this cringe conversation.
>>76410921 (OP)>algebraare you a nigger or something? why do you need supplements to pass easy math, just grind exercises until you do them easly
Anybody here take magnesium glycinate? What brands would you recommend?
>>76412339Yeah I take it. 400mg a day. Highly recommend either Carlyle if you want capsules or NOW if you want tablets. Both are great and work well.
Here are the two exact supplements I have used.
I accidentally got niacin instead of niacinamide when I ordered a batch of refills.
Mainly used it for my skin.
Tried it and I think I need to take much more to get a flush. Even 1000mg didn't do anything.
Got 1500mg pilla of l-arginine though and that I felt, restless for hours, great for the gym.
>>76412378Hell yeah, thanks anon
Thoughts on TMG+Creatine supplementation during fat loss (28%bf fatass, light activity, no lifting)?
Thoughts on Collagen/Hyaluronic acid/CoQ10 supplementation for trying to prevent loose skin after (significant) weight loss?
>>76412406God bless good luck anon hope it helps.
>>76412408If you're not doing heavy activity or lifting, there's no reason for creatine or TMG.
As for the collagen, hyaluronic acid and coq10, that sounds like a good idea. I would start it during your weight loss phase.
>>76410923Just take one every other day.
I used to try every possible supplement to fix my health or give myself an edge. I spent years obsessing over this shit, accumulating a small pharmacy worth of supplements. Despite trying so many, virtually none had any measurable benefits. I recently spent some time clearing out my supplements and putting them into bags because I was running out of good storage space. Of all the supplements I packed away, these were the ones I left out:
every day:
a good all in one multivitamin
calcium + magnesium + d3 + k2 in a single supplement (some of these need to be in correct ratios with respect to each other)
potassium citrate (i use it to supplement my diet)
melatonin 6 hour timed release (helps me sleep)
fish oil enteric coated
iron (i dont get enough from my diet)
then here's my "as-needed" list:
NAC (if you're feeling over-stimulated or cant sleep it can help)
ashwaghanda (if you're feeling anxious or stressed)
ginger extract (treats nausea as well as prescription drugs)
creatine (if you sleep terribly it minimizes the effects)
rhodiola extract (can give you more energy and vigor)
A lot of supplements are dietary abstractions, but can't possibly have the same benefits as targeting health through dietary means. The amount of money I spent on supplements would have been better served on improving my nutrition. But I always thought my health problems were somehow more complex than that.
Never been a psycho biohacker type but over the last year or two my daily supplement stack has grown.
>Creatine
>Multivitamin
>Glucosamine for joints
>Fish oil
>Fiber
>Calcium/Zinc for alleged t boost
Everything just Kirkland brand besides the creatine. Also haven't had my blood work done in years because no health insurance. Want to know about PEDs now tho
>>76411980keep taking the melatonin early, but you can take 0.3mg or so. Less really is more with that shit.
>>76412417Not true, creatine is being shown to have cognitive benefits
>>76412518Read the context of his post.
>>76412444the best way to improve your healt is to stop weighing 300lbs
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>>76412336If you read the post again, my ESL friend, you’d realize that I was giving some context to why I’m doing this experiment with the peptides.
I’m starting calculus, you bloody benchod. I need to really learn and become proficient at calculus or else the rest of my college plans are fucked.
My gay anxiety mental process that’s running 24/7 eats up a ton of my CPU’s usage while awake so I need to figure that out to make life easier. It’s a background process that is co aiming 30-60% of my CPU output at any given moment.
I just also started getting into supplements.
Mostly focusing on muscle recovery without doing anything crazy.
Psyllium Husk + ground chia seeds in protein shake for fiber, prebiotics, and micronutrients
A multivitamin
Creatine
Magnesium Glycate
Glycine
MCT oil at lunch
Tart Cherry Extract at lunch
Minor effects, minor costs, no issues. Just like I like it.
What do you guys recommend for nitric oxide? I've heard that both L-arginine/citrulline and beetroot powders are good for NO production but apparently they use different pathways and one may be more effective than the other? I've also heard that beetroot powders may contain heavy metals, so I'm not sure what to take.
Basically I'm looking for a vasodilator and these seem to be the most common options.
Shilajit
Moringa
Magnesium
Selenium
olive tree leaf extract
Boswellia
Green and black tea, sweet wormwood, nettles and dandelion.
>>76412854What do the first two do?
>>76411085>claims to eat healthy>Has dick issues and hairlossIDK that feel bro, my dick works great and I have great hair
I take a kirkland multi
Ashwaganda
Creatine
Magnesium Spray
Protein
>>76412936Where did I claim to eat healthy, you illiterate retard?
>>76412960>>maybe a multivitamin if I have been eating like shitIt it called an implied inference you bald limp dick idiot
>>76413016>I got into a car accident. Therefore, this implies that I'm a great driver.
>>76410991I'm prettybsure it says of elemental zinc on the label. All elements are always shown as elemental, ignorin a total mass
>>76411026Not really. Our body uses the same enzime to get rid of both of them if any is in excess. Thus when you reach toxic levels of zinc, your nody get's rid of copper as well.
>>76412230>NAC chelates both zinc and copper>>76412271>Sorry lil bro but chomping down on heavy metal contaminated expensive piss enhancers is hilariousNAC actually chelates all kinds of shit even including chromium and boron. Anyone taking high-ish doses kinda long-term needs to be replacing all their essential heavy metals/metalloids.
>>76413180Not sure why you quoted me, but okay.
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>>76413180Good to know. How’s this?
NAC is literally the only thing that is helpful for cocaine use disorder. I don’t want to smoke crack anymore and I want to make sure that I don’t; so far it’s been effective.
>>76410921 (OP)hey retard
if you have focus issues try making lifestyle changes first instead of supplements that have barely been researched
such as
>eliminating distractions>studying at night>optimizing sleep>getting exercisealso, retard
you try one thing at a time to see how its affecting you
not throw a shit ton of random chemicals in your body just to see what happens
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>>76413405Hey retard.. you should learn how to read before posting. I don’t have focus issues. I have anxiety and sleep issues. I have had these issues for my entire life, even as a child. I thought I was a lazy faggot which was super demoralizing, but it turns out that’s just an anxiety issue.
>have thing to do>thing makes me anxious>put off thing for temporary relief>procrastination makes thing worse, putting off a small issue until it’s a problem>repeat ad infinitumI’ve been on every prescription sleep medication. Your normie tier sleep advice is fucking useless; it takes me 3-4 hours to fall asleep without a sleep aid and then I wake 3-6 times throughout the night.
I lift weights 5 days a week and do HIIT on the stationary bike for 20-30 minutes 3x a week.
You’re a faggot and a moron. I’m tired of psychiatrists and doctors and people like you who are completely useless so I’m trying to solve this issue on my own.
>>76413421How the fuck do you know what's actually working though
>>76413446The peptides I’ve chosen have synergistic effects. The sum of the parts is greater than the individual parts; I’ve used these individually aside from DSIP prior to this which is why I decided to go with a blitzkrieg style attack
>>76413421lmao nigga got genes so bad that modern science can't fix his sleep issues
it's the easiest thing you can do nigga and you failed
>>76413523I’m handsome, jacked, and I have a high IQ and good work ethic. God had to level the playing field a little bit :)
>>76413421have you considered that you have ADHD and shit sleep
just take stims and melatonin
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>>76413552Yes, I am diagnosed with ADHD. It’s that, major depressive disorder, and general anxiety disorder. The suicide and depression has been managed.
I’m not taking stims because I had a coke problem and I am impulsive. Melatonin doesn’t do anything, but if I take stims I’ll just jerk off and keep re-dosing. It’s not an option.
For me, my substance abuse was a direct result of my various neuroses. The mess in my head is slowly being untangled, so solving these issues is crucial to my longterm sobriety and ability to fulfill my desire to become a good father and respectable member of society.
>>76412894Nature's multivitamin.
>>76413580just microdose modafinil or nicotine dude this is like a solved problem
if you really really think you'll still be addicted then take NAC with it
>>76413580nonstimulant medication such as bupropion has similar outcomes to stimulant meds
also there's provigil
in truth your neuroses likely play some role but you're also hyper-responsive to addictive behaviors because your nucleus accumbens has too much power relative to your frontal lobes and ironically stims are one of the best ways to help with this. generally therapeutic doses are not habit forming and don't require redosing unlike cocaine
>>76413549high conscientious with adhd is a wild flex. good shit my nigga
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>>76413600Interesting. Honestly, the ADHD is the least of my problems. With talk therapy and cognitive behavioral therapy, I’ve been able to learn how to harness the ADHD and utilize it to my benefit. I worked for over a decade in high end restaurants and held various titled chef positions around the country. The fact that I was able to get really good at that kind of work was in part thanks to the ADHD because I am naturally able to do 6-10 things at once and keep track of them all; I’m very good at “sticking and moving” because my mind can quickly move from thing to thing.
In hindsight, the 12-14 hour days for years on end were just a form of escapism to avoid dealing with my problems and outside of work I was a total disaster and eventually burning the candle at both ends catches up to you.
Can you elaborate about the brain anatomy/functions please?
>>76411929most of the studies done on vitamins and minerals are on the cheapest least bioavailable form so that doesn't really matter overall
>>76412854>>76413587>>76413625Shilajit is full of the nasty heavy metals like cadmium and mercury, Saars. Better into the autism pills for the chelations.
>>76411923yeah you're wrong. the massive trials done are using cheap/safe/easy like centrum. maxing efficacy often has a paradoxical effect.
>>76413697I'm actually not wrong. Easy and safe are literally not the same things as useful or effective.
>>76413704yes you are wrong the "easy and safe" part is both "useful and effective" as confirmed by huge clinical trials which i already posted.
>>76412651>ground chia seedsWhy ground?
>>76413711Google what the word literally means.
>>76413711Please show me where you posted the clinical trials.
>>76413657psychotherapy has as big of an effect size as medication so that's really good. generally true task switching is difficult for people with adhd but there is individual variation. i actually reckon that you had natural aptitude and thus intrinsic drive for kitchen work and so you hit a flow state wherein the various inputs are all part of the same task, so to speak.
work is good if you enjoy it but yeah it's also good to take care of yourself and take stock of where you are
essentially the nucleus accumbens is really responsive to dopaminergic behaviors and substances whereas the frontal lobes can inhibit immediate gratification in pursuit of long-term goals. your nucleus accumbens tells you, e.g., "fuck yes, i want that burger and let me get the fries and a shake too," whereas the frontal lobes say, "this is not particularly healthy and you need to keep an eye on your fitness."
in adhd your limbic system (emotional system) has an outsized influence on task persistence and completion. this is why it's so much easier to put in effort on things that you are intrinsically interested in. it's also why fear of consequences such as letting people down or going broke or failing out of school or any number of other things are such powerful motivators: they tap into the limbic system. this is why the typical pattern in adhd is waiting until the last minute; it's when your ability to execute kicks in due to circumstance. however, it also leads to a much greater degree of everyday stress.
one interesting thing is that the system for forming habits, the endocannabinoid system, is fully intact and working in individuals with adhd. the problem is that entrenching the habit is very difficult for people with adhd, and the habits that tend to get entrenched are the ones that are highly dopaminergic. this is why, e.g., video game addiction and compulsive sexuality are pretty common in conjunction with adhd.
you can leverage all of that in varying ways.
>>76413421Anxiety an sleep issues are completely lifestyle related.
Obviously you faggot workouts arent properly tiring you out enough. Try getting a fucking a job and maybe doing some stretching and mobility to relax your body instead of being a retard gymcel and spiking your heart rate constantly.
OR do some motha fucking YOGA my nigga. Yoga is AMAZING for anxiety. And actually commit to it don't just do one class and say oh well fuck it thats it. Use DEEP inhalations into your ABDOMEN to trigger your parasympathetic nervous system to calm you down.
Trust me, I used to be an anxietyfag and yoga helped a lot. So did dancing. You need mindful movement to signal your brain that youre safe and can let go.
You didnt even do no deep breathing today bitch ass nigga.
Your "solution" is doing random chemicals on the internet for the rest of your life? Good luck with that.
Maybe try water fasting so you can fall asleep from literally not having enough energy to stay awake
Turn off the fucking computer and bright lights and night. Use flux and hue bulbs.
Do fucking mindfulness breathing meditations. Actually fucking commit to doing it not just try it for 5 minutes one time and bitch out.
Set up your life so the thing that makes you anxious make it easier to break down into managable task.
>imagine yourself doing the thing ahead of time>set a time limit on doing the thing>do the thing for 5-10 minutes>step back and break the thing down into parts so you can allocate how much time to spend on it per daydont wait for inspiration, the inspiration will come as you do the thing and feel good about getting it done
stop doing other shit that disctracts you, thats why i literally said
>eliminate distractionsAlso your psychiatrist and doctor aren't going to fix your lifestyle issues, all they do is prescribe you jewish poison.
>>76413718google what the word autism means
>>76413721read the thread the cosmos trial and physicians trial which i already posted links to in this thread confirms substantial reductions in cancer and improvements in biological age markers
>>76411129>>76411132what do I do about anxiety related ED? I have absolutely no libido or physiological erection issues but even with 2 top strength blue chews I have had a limp dick with a new girl / tinder hookup. I mean I'm engaged now so its not a big deal but my girl has been hinting at wanting to involve another woman and I think if that happened in that situation id literally commit sodoku
>>76413737exposure therapy
>>76413742>get more women to look at my dickI like the way you think can you pretend to be a doctor and tell my wife that
>>76413737Tadalafil. You won't feel anxious because you know the pill will guarantee your erection.
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>>76413722Interesting. Thanks bro. That makes a ton of sense, like getting through my general education classes was like pulling teeth even though they were stupid easy. With math and chemistry, I’m fully engaged and it’s easy to spend a couple hours a day working on those things. Once you understand what is going on, it becomes much easier to either mitigate the inherent issues I have through various techniques OR have fun utilizing them to accomplish a task.
For me, order and organization is paramount for the completion of any task. If my house or work space or whatever is in disarray, it’s impossible for me to get anything done. I work as a server now and got roped into getting this stupid hotdog cart that my boss opened up on the restaurant premises for this big neighborhood event and first thing I did was bring order to the chaos.
>>76413723>anxiety and sleep issues are lifestyle relatedYeah, for some people. I’ve tried all these things bro. The anxiety is a PHYSICAL thing that I am able to feel; it’s near constant fight or flight mode with physical manifestations of various symptoms of the anxiety. My danger music is always playing even though my life is, by all metrics, quite good right now.
>>76413782>My danger music is always playing Nigga literally read the rest of my post. It sounds like trauma and you have an overactive fight or flight response. Yoga, real meditation, dance, mindfulness, therapy, Dialectical Behavior Therapy, etc are gonna help you a lot.
>>76412609watch some video about calculus, do shitton of exercices until all are easy, also focus on one thing first and do it instead of doing several at once
>>76413806NTA but I have done all those things, trauma still exists and anything done is just a cope that never actually gets it to go away. At best you can learn to sense when the trauma is "being triggered" and try to make a conscientious decision to change but that still is not guaranteed.
>Thread still full of all normie shit
>PAI-1 is a common driver of aging and diverse diseases
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2319417025000666
>Baicalin ameliorates cigarette smoke-induced airway inflammation in rats by modulating HDAC2/NF-κB/PAI-1 signalling
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34314854/
>>76413782>. My danger music is always playing even though my life is, by all metrics, quite good right now.Unironically take up prayer and start reading some Orthodox saints. I was kinda like you in my late 20's and now i take things way less seriously. I also reduced my lifting sessions to x3 per week and doing way less volume. Also did you try magnesium citrate?
Btw what's with your fridge? Your main source of protons is sausages?
>>76414046>Falling for the grift of a guy who's so unhealthy because of his diet and extreme lifestyle that his body no longer makes testosterone or estrogen so he has to inject both, and has to get subcutaneous face injections of fat because His body fat is so low that he looks so bad naturally that it affects his grifting ability to sell $12 jars of nut butter with four servings, Olive oil that doesn't contain the harvest date which he claims is one of the utmost indicators of the purity and healthfulness, and a curcumin supplement, which isn't the most absorbable form.
Been taking:
Ivermectin (everyday about 3ml on an empty stomach)
Fenbendazole (once a week with some fat likes eggs 222mg)
Multi vitamin
Maggy L-Threonate
And some protein powder in a shake
I heard nattokinase is good for circulation but I haven't tried it yet
Anyone been taking L-Theanine?
>>76413782yeah, the habit of organizational aids is an incredibly powerful tool for people with adhd so you're already winning in many respects.
but the big thing people don't realize about adhd is that it's a disorder of regulating attention, not actually a complete deficit of attention. there is of course a deficit of attention in some regards but the opposite is also a condition of the disorder. this is what hyperfocus is: a fixation, perseveration toward a task, perhaps even to the detriment of other tasks or your own health. it's not exactly a superpower as some people say it is.
also regarding the anxiety, that's fucking exhausting. healthygamergg on youtube has some wonderful videos about this kind of thing that you can put on and listen to while you do other shit
>>76414151It kills cancer cells and it's virtually retard proof especially if you take the liquid form
>>76414163So you have cancer
>>76414163>it kills cancer cellsIt also damages healthy cells, including the immune related cells needed to fight cancer.
Ivermectin destroys cellular membranes, that's how it works against parasites.
You could be destroying completely healthy immune cells by abusing that shit dumbass.
>>76414170I've felt changes after taking it
I can't say 100% that it was cancer but my prostate is a lot healthier and I could feel it get healthier if that makes sense
>>76414183Well that is more likely because you had a chronic prostate infection.
When the prostate swells in reduces the ability for the body to recognize bacterial/fungal/viral infections so the infection never clears before the body eventually stops producing the antibodies to fight the infection.
Same reason why people get chronic warts on their fingers/toes when having reduced blood flow to the extremities.
You should have just taken low dosage cialis, stretched, and done more cardio bro.
>>76414182I'm sorry but you're wrong that's not how it works
Ivermectin attacks the signalling pathways inside the cancer cells it doesn't destroy any cell walls at all
I should have AIDs I've been taking Ivermectin daily for nearly 2 years now
>>76414210>I'm sorry but you're wrong that's not how it works>bro ivermectin doesn't change permeability of membranes>bro ivermectin doesn't influence certain membranes to have chloride ions more>bro ivermectin doesn't directly damage the mitochondrial membrane>bro source my asslmaoing at your life dumbass.
All neurological toxicity, all antibiotic-three layer attack benefits, all things about ivermectin stem from the fact that it damages or alters cellular membranes.
Including those of healthy cells.
>b-but my signaling pathwaysYes and those pathways do what newfag?
They influence chloride ions via the cellular membrane which causes toxicity.
Glad you agree with me dumbass.
>>76414195>CialisWhy do I even bother talking you people
This whole site is just on big dumping ground for you shit heels between /fit/ and /fa/ skincare&haircare respectively
Go fuck yourself in the ear you pharma gremlin
>>76414240Cialis, ginger, green tea and only a few other things are the only known PDE5 inhibitors on the planet retard.
The prostate once prone to inflammation, basically has no way to get rid of the inflammation which is why it chronically swells.
PDE5 inhibitors bypass and force positive anti-inflammatory influence on the prostate.
That's why doctors prescribe cialis for prostate problems, holy shit you fucking jeet fuck.
This is day one knowledge, i'm trying to help you, but you bring your stupid fucking jeet ass on here saying you take shit like ivermectin and when someone gives you actual good advice it's all
>NO SAAR YOU ARE WRONG WHY I COME HERE SAARgo fuck yourself, you deserve everything bad that happens to you.
>>76414240this nigga rejecting pharma out of hand instead of recognizing where the holes are
dumb ass nigga
>>76414250>>76414238My mistake saar please continue to sell your overpriced goods that dont work saar
Ivermectin is bad yes that's why the entire livestock industry uses it routinely because they want to give their animals aids yes saar I leave now byrbye
>>76414250icariin found in horney goat weed is the strongest natural pde5 inhibitor
>>76414152have u tried saffron
>>76414283>bro ivermectin isn't pharma saar>bro ivermectin isn't expensive saarcialis unironically cheaper than ivermectin jeet.
you can get like 100 pills for like 20 bucks.
>>76414297Black ginger has almost 3 times the amount of PDE5 Inhib as horney goat weed.
Also Cialis is exponentially powerful compared to natural sources.
There is a reason you would need 10+ servings a day of horney goat weed to get the benefits of 1mg of cialis.
While it would take three-four servings of ginger tea.
>>76414311i believe pure icariin is more potent than pure dmf ill look into it later
>>76414319At that point you have to compare pure black ginger extract to pure icariin.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6754136/
It's low-mid, it's enough to not be called placebo so yes it does work, but once again it's nowhere even close to black ginger which taken three times a daily in concentrated form has moderate results.
No natural source comes close to cialis.
1mg cialis has tangible results 2 hours after taking it.
You would have to take multiple standardized dosages of any natural source multiple times a day, realistically for a couple of days to show results.
Or idk you'd just have to be taking them in really absurd amounts regularly throughout the day.
Which doesn't seem worthwhile price wise.
Since all natural sources are more costly.
>>76414344Can I take 5mg cialis even if I don’t fuck?
>>76414125>ivermectinmy cousin ended up in the icu dont do it
>fenbendazolewhy would you take this??
>>76414352I wouldn't recommend 5mg.
I buy 10mg and split them.
Since cialis is felt exponentially, the benefits of cialis daily are felt at the lowest dosages.
Example
>2.5mg of cialis puts on the same 5lbs of lean body mass as 5mg, 10mg, or 20mgThere is a reason older men who have major health problems take 20mg.
If you need to take larger dosages of cialis to show positive influence on the body, you would literally gain more benefit from any major health change like
>better diet>better exercise>losing weight, sleeping better, etcI take 2.5mg, have taken it three times a week for 10 years.
monday/wed/friday like clockwork.
Final note, if you have GERD or back problems (lower back problems) don't take cialis.
Cialis prevents inflammation via PDE5 inhibitor.
Certain muscles in your body physically require inflammation to function properly via engorging and/or counterbalancing.
People who take cialis have acid reflux and back problems as largest side effects and it's very common to have them.
>>76414344you could combine icariin, dmf and berberine quite easily and get something closer to the level of viagra. berberine downregulates pde5 and has endless benefits on top. viagra has many side effects the natural substances do not have.
>>76410921 (OP)If you're drinking or jerking off all that money will be wasted (most of it is wasted anyway).
>>76413713Chia seeds are extremely nutritious, but your body really can't break down the seeds. If you don't grind them up, it's just a bunch of soluble fiber and not a whole lotta nutrients or calories. And you also don't get the minor amount of protein.
If you grind it, you make all the stuff digestible. The soluble fiber aspect goes down a bit, but it becomes much more insoluble fiber instead.
If you aren't grinding your chia seeds, you may as well just use flax seeds instead.
>>76414086>curcumin supplement, which isn't the most absorbable form.A known liver toxin.
>>76414710there are only a few isolated reports of curcumin induced liver injury and aside from taking way too much curcumin there's zero useful information in the reports. patented curcumin extracts are common and have a well vetted safety profile. the toxicity of curcumin likely comes from low quality scams spraying the crop with lead to make it look fresher.
>>76412124> didn’t feel like dihexa did with natural flow:Yeah, I was hoping it would be as noticeable as SEMAX, but I think I’m still getting some value from it as a long-term auxiliary. It’s supposed to support habit formation and neuroplasticity, so I only take it on productive days to help reinforce those patterns.
I have a feeling the more neurodivergent you are, the more likely you are to benefit from these nootropics.
Have you tried to Cerebrolysin yet? I haven’t found a source yet.
>>76410921 (OP)Alright guys rate the stack.
>Gooning supsZinc Piconate (22mg)
Copper (2mg) (So I can take zinc everyday)
>I broke my arm and am healing supsBoron (3mg)
D3+K2 pill (5000 IU/ 100mcg)
Tips? Tricks? Suggestions?
>>76415065A $60 AUD cycle of BPC157 will do more for your recovery than any nutritional supplement.
Stack it with TB500 and you’ll feel like Wolverine. It won’t heal the broken bones, but all of the supporting soft tissue will be 100% healed.
>MUH FDA APPROVAL Who dares, wins.
How many mg of Boron to take for the body to make more test. Yes, I know its not much compared to actual gear but Im still curious.
How'd I do, just got these today. I learned the sups I had where trash and not bioavailable so I tried to research some decent stuff.
I'm thinking zinc maybe every other day.
Creatine as well obviously, and I'll be getting some sunflower lecithin soon for more gains
>>76414427bruh why do you keep shilling that shit.
just make black garlic tea.
it's literally the most abundant natural source of pde5 inhibitor on the planet.
you keep shilling icariin, but it's less polymethoxyflavone than black ginger.
flavonoids are what cause the pde5 inhibition.
horny goat weed is not anywhere close to black ginger. it's not even remotely close at a necessary three+ dosages to equal one dosage of black ginger.
>>76415187it is much easier to find high potency icariin than dmf and dmf has some issues like increasing absorption of other things which can become a problem depending on your stack. also why not both? did you just learn about black ginger? i use both and berberine.
>>76415195Because it's the cheapest and most absorbed option without giving any money to supplement industry.
Add it to green tea (another pde5 inhibitor though much smaller in concentration) and boom why the fuck not.
i'm not buying overpriced supplements that have no actual evidence of doing shit.
it's barely registered above placebo.
once again it takes daily supplementation of 2.5mg of cialis which is exponentially more powerful than black ginger, the strongest natural pde5 inhibitor to even show any benefits from pde5 inhibition.
so horny goat weed is a fucking meme. objectively.
>>76415211black ginger isn't even remotely cheap and a proper extract standardized to dmf (the pde5 inhibiting molecule in it) is even more expensive. most of the extracts only contain 5% dmf. furthermore idgaf about pde5 inhibition specifically it's just another benefit among many. also i'd think berberine pde5 downregulation will be superior to any of this shit over the long run. tldr i dont need or take boner pills bye viagra seller
>>76415235kek
>bro black ginger is expensive>but im going to buy this meme supplement that can't even do anythingdude you can buy black ginger at fucking grocery stores the fuck are you talking about it's cheap as fuck, it's barely more expensive than regular ginger. which is dirt cheap.
you're spending like 5 bucks in horny goat weed per day to get what is the 1 dollar in black ginger cost. let alone like 25 cents of cialis cost.
do you just work for a horny goat weed company?
>>76415250unless you live in thailand you're not finding black ginger in any store. icariin isn't particularly expensive. no where close to $5 more day more like pennies and it has broad spectrum benefits. your boner drugs have broad spectrum side effects. idgaf about your boner drugs at all im never buying them bye bye cupcake
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>>76414627I don’t drink. What does jerking off have to do with anything? Will fucking my girlfriend negate any gains from these supplements?
>>76412582Actually, that's bullshit. In nutritional science most over-weight people are deficient in many micro-nutrients despite eating more food than required. That's because foods high in calories and fat, goy slop, have no nutritional value. Simply 'losing weight' isn't enough to help these people. Dietitians now focus on improving over-weight patients nutrition as a priority without respect to 'losing weight.' Since if you have chronic disease from poor nutrition its unlikely that you'll be able to lose weight anyway. But I understand that you're a typical abrasive retard on an image board.
>>76414141Yes
It’s nice for work days that i know are going to be intense (construction)
I take it with caffeine so i have energy but i’m not trying to do 10 things at once
Started taking propranolol (beta blocker that keeps your heart from beating excessively so your brain doesn’t go into fight or flight mode) that i got from hims but im not too sure about it yet
>>76415322it's probably as much or more to do with the fact that being very fat reduces the efficiency of the entire body so even if they're eating healthy food they will get less value from it. additionally fat stores toxins which further degrade the absorption of nutrients as the toxic substrate stored in fat harms the entire body
>>76415211>the strongest natural pde5 inhibitor get some ku shen m8
>>76414710What do you think the point of my post was? I'm just curious.
Does anyone have any reccomemdations for general gut health that aren't:
Glutamine
Probiotic (yes seven specific strains)
Ginger/Peppermint/Fennel
NAC
Aloe
MSM
Magnesium
Just wondering if there's anything new around that I haven't tried. I have IBS so its a chronic thing and anything that can help me manage bloating/chromic gas/constipation is greatly appreciated.
>>76415725>bloating/chromic gas-Dried ginger with honey/sugar, you chew them as a snack. Chink/Asian shop should sell them.
-charcoal pill/powder
-ginger peppermint tea
-some yoga shit to push the gas for a mega brap
>general gut health-black seed oil
-raw cow/goat milk
-kefir
-bpc157
-fiber
-colostrum
>>76415725first thing i'd try is eliminate literally everything but meat and water. add stuff back in one at a time. basically follow a carnivore diet for a few weeks to see if symptoms improve. go from there
>>76415772I didn't read the rest of your post because you started off by recommending something that I literally said not to recommend.
>>76415774I did that. It's not food related. It's a chronic issue. Thank you though.
>>76415772Half the stuff you recommended, including literally the first thing you recommend it, are things that I pointed out in my list not to recommend.
>>76415777>I didn't read the rest of your postLol nah.Best of luck.
>>76415780what about coffee? have you tried digestive enzymes? maybe look into milk thistle.
>>76415794Try all three of those. I really do appreciate your effort in replying to me with options and recommendations though
>>76415799i guess the only other thing i can recommend is cistanche. it has some potent bowel tonic properties. have you been to a doctor to make sure your organs are functioning properly?
>>76415814Yes, my last physical showed a clean bill of health. I've visited a gastroenterologist in the past and sadly his advice to me was literally just to take laxatives. I'm going to look into cistanche, honestly neevr heard of it.
>>76415817cistanche got "known" for purported testo boosting benefits but honestly its best attributes are sleep and gut/bowel health. there's probably more exotic herbs that do better but im not the one to ask. good luck
>>76415841Thank you. I'm very grateful for your help.
>>76414301saffron and sumak where my flower bros at
I'm thinking about buying pic rel, should I? I think I'm eating pretty clean - muesli with either cottage cheese or skyr, eggs most of the time hard boiled. Chicken breast for meat, white rice and various mixed, frozen vegetables which usually contain potatoes, broccoli, carrot, corn, cauliflower etc. Other than that I eat cucumbers, tomatoes, red onion with cottage cheese as well, as for fruit it's usually strawberries, cranberries, prunes. Pretty much anything I can get at grocery store. The point I'm making is I think that I'm eating pretty clean and I eat a shit ton of vegetables, so technically I should be covered vitamin and mineral wise. However I'm not autistic enough to track my micros. Thoughts? Other that pic rel, any other recommendations? I'm lifting 4 days a week, running 12km (7.45 miles) every single day and on top of that I'm running HIIT on the non-lift days if that matters.
>>76415725>Probiotic (yes seven specific strains)which strains? i thought they are the same thing
>>76416246Try looking at life extension 2 per day or thorne basic 2 per day (take just 1 since youre eating decent enough) , might still wanna supplement extra magnesium from a better form (citrate if you can handle the shits, malate or glycinate ) and vitamin k2 mk4/mk7. Some might complain about the meh form and amount of b6 in the Life extension, some say p5p is better and safer than the hcl version.Well, this is all imo.
>>76410921 (OP)Lately I dropped all suplements, even caffeine and I feel good. You just need to eat healthy, a lot of veggies and fruits(of course do not munch on potatoes, rice and bananas too much) on top of meat and diary.
>>764151066 to 9, which is usually 2-3 pills.
>>76416331They aren't. Generally speaking, different strains are good for different irritable bowel symptoms. The probiotics that you purchase in the store typically have a whole slew of different strains. These are useless for people with actual bowel problems because some of the strains that they contain can irritate the problem and some of them are neutral and some of them may make it better. But overall, they compete with each other.
No supplement, and I have tried many, has fixed or helped for anything. Literally a complete waste of money and time.
For most things all you have to do is eat good foods and one of pic related a day for a few days (but not every day cuz they're radioactive).
never felt like any supplement did anything for me
>>76416393>Lately I dropped all suplements, even caffeine and I feel good.You might "feel good" but the /sci/ says there are a whole boatload you're probably better off taking than not taking.
>t. more pillmaxxed than Bryan Johnson and also "feel good" but have discontinued them all for a bit and just feel a little less "good"
>>76417350Oh man, a whole board of stay-at-home, nobodirs living in their mom's basement posting on an anime website say I need to spend hundreds of dollars on lead-laced Chinese pills. I'm sure they absolutely certainly know exactly what they are talking about
>>76410921 (OP)I'm a bit dubious of supplements unless you have an absorption disorder for some specific vitamin or mineral. Your diet should generally get you all the micros.
One thing I think is not talked about enough is that nearly all supplements you can take have antioxidant effects. This means that they will make you feel better if you're in oxidative stress from some problem without actually treating that underlying problem.
>>76410921 (OP)My current stack:
>zepbound 5mg (infinite hunger otherwise)>high quality multivitamin>finasteride (hair is life)>creatine HCL>omega 3 high EPA nearly no DHA>collagen peptides>astaxanthin/lutein/zeaxanthin>statin+ezetimibe>glynac>psyllium husk>melatonin+magnesiumRecently stopped using tadalafil due to side effects. Turns out my dick actually works quite well without it, I was just fat before. Am keeping a strategic reserve just in case though.
>>76410921 (OP)What's like the max amout of vitamin D I can take per day? I have a multivitaming with 5 microgram + pills with 25 microgram.
>>76417583What multivitamin do you take
>>76411104I literally got more ED issues from random supplements I experimented with than from fin. I swear everyone who says that shit is just an eternally buttmad baldy.
>>76412408CoQ10 is a trash supplement and not even recommended when using statins anymore because of how worthless it is.
Everything else on your list is a good idea though.
>>76412721Tadalafil, beetroot, citrulline
>>76417589MicroVitamin from Dr Stanfield because it isn't overdosed on everything.
>>76417615Very cool thanks
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OP here. Gonna add this for the next hundred days :)
Any males that got too much oestrogen?
>>76416963Ashwagandha helped me with sleep. That's pretty much it.
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>>76417710With DSIP, I am sleeping 6-8 hours without waking every night. I’ve tried absolutely EVERYTHING, both prescription and OTC, and this is the magic fucking bullet I’ve spent the last 15 years looking for.
>>76413806>real meditationNiqqa, meditation can literally be harmful. Look it up: it can induce psychosis. If you have PTSD or eating disorder, dissociative episodes, good luck getting anything good out of it. It's pure torture. Also, every research paper loosely claiming benefits from meditation (evidence disproves bolder claims) is deep in conflict of interests.
i take two supplement pills a day
one is 2500 I.E vitamin D3 with 100 microgramm vitamin K2
the other is 14mg of iron, 180mg of vitamin c, 200 microgramm folic acid, 4,5mg vitamin b6 and 3 microgramm vitamin b12
>>76417924man you are a guinea pig with this shit. How long have you been using? Any side effects or suspected side effects?
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>>76417990No, none. I’ve put a lot of time and effort into researching these things and I have used them individually before to test for side effects (except for DSIP), so it’s not like I’m blindly injecting a pharmacy worth of random shit. This was my process:
>interest in peptides piqued by friends using BPC-157 with varying degrees of success>wonder about whether or not there are peptides for brain healing/brain health>there are>look into literally every one I can find that vendors supply, quickly weeding out about 80% of them>jot down the remaining 20%>meticulously research all I can about pertinent compounds>eliminate another ~10% based on lack of efficacy and potential side effects/danger of compounds>find reputable domestic vendors who PUBLICLY POST mass spectrometry analyses of compounds by reputable third party testers>eliminate another 5% based on not being able to find a vendor who stocks the pertinent compounds with the above qualifications>order small amounts to test on myself individually over the course of a few months>don’t have to eliminate any based on negative sides at this point>save up enough to pull the trigger on a full course of peptide therapy ranging anywhere from 10 days to 4 monthsSo yeah, I’m a lab rat in the sense that the medical literature simply doesn’t exist to support what I’m doing but this wasn’t an impulsive or reckless decision, and if it’s successful then I will recommend it to others. If it does nothing, then I will be out $1500. Risk/reward seems worth it to me.
>>76411085Fin turns you into a faggot, not worth the risk.
>>76418285nah, I can tell this nigga came out da womb zesty
no cap (fr fr)
>>76412526Context is irrelevant. Cognitive improvements benefit everyone in all circumstances.
>>76412378What are the benefits of this?
any good supplements/combos for healing slightly hearniated (no surgery) and worn discs in the spine? (BMI of 20 + im young)
im already maxing gymnastic exercises and swimming
any good supplements/combos for slighty stretched out ligaments (they are not torn, but idk how to explain, a lil stretched too much and maybe press on nerves too) and irritated nerves?
i take high doses of b12. my nerves dont tingle on that day.
thanks
>>76418383It's not, but whatever you say.
>>76418392Supplying you with a mineral that you're deficient in like any supplement.
>>76418418do i really have to make a new thread for my egotistical problems?
>>76418383>All people should have the same values and goals>all people require the same nutritional supportNope
>>76418484It's been 24 minutes. Calm down.
>>76410921 (OP)>>1mg 2x/week CJC-1295 with DAC
How much mass did you gain with peptides?
>>76418603NTA but I did a 6 month cycle of tessamorelin and i got stronger but the main benefits were just sleeping good and loss of visceral fat
>>76417976>meditation>harmfulif sitting in silence and practicing mindfullnes is harmful for you then you're too far fucking gone already you dumb psycho. go visit a doctor you mouthbreathing tard
>>76418861I am naturally gifted at meditation. I can literally stop thinking which makes me lose all sense of time. Then when i return from this small death I am traumatized
>>76417457>lead-laced Chinese pills>>76417591>more ED issues from random supplements I experimented with than from finThis is serious research/sourcing skill issues. I get supplements from China and India all the time that come back 0-1ppb lead if it ain't the cheapest Shenzen/Chennai bathtub-brewed garbage you can find. Eating an American Hershey's bar is probably more lead and cadmium than your average Chinese supplement.
>big protip: don't take systemically active anti-androgens for hair; tons of other non-androgen pathways grow hair if you're not some anti-/sci/ luddite who only trusts Bill Clinton's FDA.