Why are Arnold presses so fucking difficult

>>76418597 (OP)
This is the quintessential DYEL exercise.

>>76418597 (OP)
They're a gay movement but my DYEL friend swears by them and he also thinks deadlifts will split your spine even at low weights

>>76418622
What dumbbell movement would you suggest?

>>76418639
Just do normal presses or OHP

>>76418639
Just stick to the basics and stop overcomplicating shit. Dumbbell bench press, shoulder press, rows, bulgarian split squats, lat raises, etc are all classics for a reason. They work and aren't a meme.

>>76418597 (OP)
They're not. You're just weak.

>>76418622
Thats deadlifts

>>76418597 (OP)
Lower the weight then, retard

>>76418597 (OP)
Im pretty sure arnold said he made these up as a joke. Don't do them.

>>76418597 (OP)
Why in the world would you do arnold presses??

>>76418639
If you're bench/incline pressing, you almost certainly don't need to be overhead pressing, but if you do either
Strict barbell OHP, because this is the ultimate MOG, and has some sport use (strongman, some niche powerlifting comps)
Or barbell behind the neck press, for lighter weight, this helps with shoulder health a lot if you don't go crazy.
Also lateral raises.

>>76418597 (OP)
I don't see the point in twisting like that mid rep. I do my dumbbell pressing with neutral hammer grip the whole rep, both shoulder and chest presses. It just feels so much better and more stable to me than trying to balance them horizontally away from my body.
It also means I don't care how long the dumbbell is, which is nice for the dumbbell handles I plan on using in my home gym soon.

>>76418597 (OP)
More delt dependent, upper torso muscles can't assist as much unless you cheat
>>76419647
>If you're bench/incline pressing, you almost certainly don't need to be overhead pressing
Kys

The most Indian of all the lifts

>>76418622
>This is the quintessential DYEL exercise.
Just academically I think they're better for upper pec than other kinds of OHP.

>>76420131
>Academically
You prove my point.

>>76420223
>You prove my point.
Retard, I just said that because I don't do them. Do them one handed and feel your upper pec with other hand, then do dumbbell ohp to the side.

They are kind of dangerous because the twisting momentum can fuck your joints up.

>>76420131
If you're doing OHP for upper pec, you're DYEL

>>76421545
I guess Arnold was DYEL then because what else is AP better for?

>>76418639
Scott press

>>76418597 (OP)
Is there a modified version of this for people without four arms?

>>76421618
>He thinks that Arnold's advice wasn't deliberately bad so that he could sabotage his competition.

dont get baited, that some shit arnold did in front of the camera so other lifters could copy it and get injured removing them from mister olympia race

>>76422411
>gets injured doing fake exercises for the camera
He gave prank advice. I don't see him doing fake lifts. Aside from that you can feel the goddamn difference between dumbbell ohp and arnold press.