OHP, behind the neck OHP, sure great. Yet everyone complains about how they don't hit side delts (false but still). Meanwhile with side raises you're lifting almost nothing unless you're advanced. Then you have the UPRIGHT ROW. A heavy compound that can be trained as a main lift and anatomically hits the side delts as well as the yoke. Seems like the perfect middle ground. However you almost never see it, and when you do people use meme pencilneck weights. How about you get terrifyingly STRONG at upright rows, heave some heavy loads and get BULBOUS.

>>76422967 (OP)
>bro what if I did a deadlift all the way up to my neck
Good luck, let us know how that works out for you.

>>76422967 (OP)
Upright rows along with front raises were loved my a shit ton of Mr Olympia's but people cope saying "they were raised they can do more volume"

What did they know that we don't?

>>76422991
>front raises
Another lift people turn their noses up at. "Le bench hits it enough". No it doesn't dude, do your heil hitlers and get ENGORGED.

>>76422984
>let us know how that works out for you.
Works great
It’s why everyone who does it has amazing shoulders

>>76422967 (OP)
>How about you get terrifyingly STRONG at upright rows, heave some heavy loads and get BULBOUS.
ok i will get terrifically strong at upright rows, but i won't do this shit cause it's retarded injurious nonsense - is that ok bot?
i will work muh traps and delts separately with isometric holds of miniscule weight, shrug with 2 light dumbbells and double chin neck positioning and delts with otator cuff supposed movement
>wha?
like i stand as if i was doing dumbbells ohp
>and?
and drop muh scaps down and spread them out with muh serratus - look up scapular circles to understand what i'm talking about
>and?
and tilt dumbbells (forearms) a tad forward
>and?
and hold :D there was never point in repping anything, i want muscle to work continuously, only isometric tension allows that

pictured is what i do for traps and they responded beautifully, there's not a single t-shirt that fits me anymore lol, they all feel strange as if hovering way too high, that is if it fits at all, some are beyond saving too small :D