Currently, cutting and see some progress but still no abs yet and I feel so skinny. I guess I don't have as much muscle as I thought. For reference im 5' 10 at 160lb no abs but getting leaner (from 28% bf to ~18% bf) and been training consistently for 7 years. Just wanted to rant. Kinda sucks man but whatever it is what it is

>>76448115 (OP)
thats horrible if troon

How have you trained for 7 years and you have no abs at 5'10 at 160. I have my top abs showing at 5'10 155lbs and im a skeleton dude

Idk i guess just my genetics.
I can bench 225lbs for reps and front squat 250lbs for reps. Just didn't think id have to lose so much weight for my abs to show

bro, 5'10" 160lbs at 18% is fucking small

Here's my physique right now

>>76448115 (OP)
Is pic related achievable natty? Also what his bf% here?

>>76448807
I think so. Probably like 10-12% bodyfat

>>76448806
From the picture no you don't look small and 160lbs is a normal weight for 5'10" but you need to take pictures next to other people/objects so we can properly gauge your size.

When it's just a picture of you, your body is being viewed on a vacuum, nothing to compare it too.

>>76448827
True. Here's a pic of me relative to some deodorant lmao

>>76448836
>>76448827
bro what

you look huge for 160. are your legs just dyel?

>>76449027
I guess so. I only do squats for legs and thats it so maybe

>>76448836
because you were fat (probably more like 35%) you have more fat cells and they dont go away, and they are basically permanent water balloons under your skin so if you want to look shredded you have to cut out carbs to lose the water. i had pizza today and from experience i know my abs will come back after i take a fat piss tomorrow morning

I guess I see a bunch of guys on Instagram that have only been training for a year and already twice my size and wayy leaner. Sucks man

>>76449045
Makes sense I feel like i do hold alot of water

This was me before my cut

>>76449046
Those guys are on drugs and edit their videos/pictures.
Never compare yourself to someone online.

>>76449049
>>76449064
i was close to you a couple years ago. cut carbs and drink lots of tea for caffeine and protein shakes for a few days and track your weight to see how much water you lose. you could go down 5-10lbs and you could look shredded, but you might have some pudge on the gut and some love handle action at the lowest side.
>>76449066
also this. in the bathroom mirror you will look like shit but sometimes in different lighting you will be surprised who you will think you just might mog

>>76449078
Makes sense.
Yeah idk why im saying all this anyways since it won't change anything lol. Just gotta keep training and eating right doing the best with what I got

>>76449086
sometimes you just need that positive reinforcement brother

>>76449102

>>76448115 (OP)
>>76448806

maybe you should have tried doing some running/sprinting, if it makes you feel any better majority of physiques on fit look like that, lifting without any real exercising.

You gotta keep cutting

It's okay, you are clearly natty, most of the bodies and abs you see around are from juiced dudes, you won't ever get that.
That's as nice of a body as you'll get and don't even bother cutting more, girls like a little bit of fat.

>>76449038
Mirin legs nice shape not those SS tumors you see sometimes.
>>76448836
Not too bad bro definitely got some mass but you need to lift harder and fix your diet.

>>76450421
>Mirin legs nice shape not those SS tumors you see sometimes.
Agreed. Legs should look cylindrical, like these ones. The moment they jut out from the leg and become more of a board in a sock, it's over.

>>76448806
Yeah no,you still have fat to lose and abs to develop but you're almost there, everyone underestimates how much fat they have to lose for abs

>>76448836
>>76449038
bro first off you look great. you have visible abs. you look way better post-cut than pre-cut. and your legs have great definition. I'm also natty and I would kill to look like you.

do NOT listen to the roidfags and trannies on this board who tell you that you're small and need to get bigger or cut more. You look fantastic. If I were you I'd maybe lose very slightly more to get to 15% bodyfat but you already look better than 99% of men. You have close to an ideal body type and can probably just maintain for the rest of your life.

DO NOT LISTEN TO THE ROIDFAGS WHO TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE SMALL. YOU'RE NOT.