You do train your second heart, right?

>>76449548 (OP)
Calf raises
Running

>>76449553
Running doesn't train your calves, only your lunges. Otherwise all runnings would have big calves and they don't. They are skeletons.

>>76449556
Ah yes the retard who thinks they need hypertrophy training for it to be training at all and doesnt understand endurance.

>>76449557
There is only low reps and high reps. You are the retard.

>>76449556
My calves blew up doing hill sprints 2-3 times per week. No other exercises have come close and I spam lunges, Bulgarian split squats, and calf raises.

>>76449566
Nope. But thanks for being wrong.

>>76449571
>My calves blew up doing hill sprints 2-3 times per week. No other exercises have come close and I spam lunges, Bulgarian split squats, and calf raises.
man that hill must be quite far away from your home
>why?
cause "hill sprints" do fuckall for calves and if any of it grew it's because it took u a while to get there, WALKING
>>76449307
https://www.heartspecialistsgroup.com/the-circulatory-system-and-the-second-heart/
>second heart is a system of muscles, veins, and valves in the calf and foot that work together to push deoxygenated blood back up to the heart and lungs. Vein valves act as trapdoors that open and close with each muscle contraction to prevent the backflow of blood.
and ur gut is ur second brain and that's why your back hurts - u're stressed out too damn much

>second heart is a system of muscles, veins, and valves in the calf and foot that work together to push deoxygenated blood back up to the heart and lungs. Vein valves act as trapdoors that open and close with each muscle contraction to prevent the backflow of blood.

i fucking feel this in foot like u wouldn't believe:
>>76449307
>great legs, real legs, anti-chicken-legs:
>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NfwtDIscQm8
>do as isometric hold over table height, unilaterally, extend other leg below table for MOAR load
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NfwtDIscQm8

>>76449556
by that logic benchpress doesn't train chest because 95% of the population doing bench press in any commercial gym have shit chest development. admit you're a retard now

>>76449548 (OP)
If this is true nobody who regularly uses barefoot shoes and the likes should die because of cardiovascular issues.

>>76449556
>running doesn't train calves
how to tell everyone you are a calflet without saying it.
let me guess you thought a few measly reps in a gym with your lmao 3pl8 calf raise would make your calves bigger?

>>76449556
>>76449548 (OP)
Reminder that unless you’re running barefoot or wearing "barefoot shoes" then your calves are not getting worked out. The number one piece of advice for people who start running barefoot is not about the skin on the soles of your feet, it's "dont run more than half a km for your first time otherwise you will get DOMS in your calves beyond your comprehension".

I ran a half marathon with barefoot shoes this year and have received calf mires from girl recently lol

>>76449548 (OP)
If it needs movement it isn't a fucking heart

>>76449600
Why do you think your theories of muscle hypertrophy are valuable if they do not model reality?
Take your meds.

>>76449705
>"dont run more than half a km for your first time otherwise you will get DOMS in your calves beyond your comprehension"

Literally no-one has said this

>>76449548 (OP)
I have a univentricular setup. My artrial blood is pumped out into the body by my left ventricle, but where it would normally be driven back by a propulsive thrust from the right heart, there's only passive drainage against gravity...

The pressure gradient in my pulmonary artery and my skeletal muscle pump - i.e. my legs - is all I got to drive venous return. Blood pools south of the heart.

I desaturate extensively under load which causes a more rapid switch from Type I to to Type IIb fibres. Can't figure out if compression socks are good or bad during training. They help venous return but could reduce local tissue oxygenation and nuke my gains.

If you train like a madman to absolute failure calves grow quite well. I started with stick legs and now my calves are 17 inches, aiming for at least 20 inches on the future

>>76449600
Jesus christ, you're the same retard from /sp/ who posts this heel hook shit. Just stop, heel hooks work hamstrings and glutes, virtually no calf recruitment going on.

>>76449712
>>76449932
>Why do you think your theories of muscle hypertrophy are valuable if they do not model reality?
gastrocnemius:
function is plantar flexing the foot (pointing toes) at the ankle joint and flexing the leg at the knee joint.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastrocnemius_muscle
that's theory bot, not much of a theory is it? it's just fact, simple fact of life bot
but i came around it via practice: i literally got to "muscular failure" 100 times over both with straight knee and bent knee doing unilateral calf raises with little to no effect on calves
and then i discovered this:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NfwtDIscQm8
and never looked back :D

>i don't comprehende
don't play retarded botino cretino, gastrocnemius is wrapping around bones of knee joint with extended knee, even if it could do calf raises that bone poking it would prevent u form getting any useful for hypertrophy contraction and soleus is conjoined with gastrocnemius at ahilles tendon so u aren't even getting thatwith calf raises D:
it is all perfectly logical and corroborated by my own experimentations

>>76449548 (OP)
I train my second but not my third THATS RIGHT I ONLY HOP ON ONE FOOT FAGGOT AND YOU CAN'T STOP—AAAAACKKK!!

>>76449762
>univentricular setup
Evolutionary advantage?
What build uses this?

>>76450315
>>76450297
>univentricular setup
it's just rando heart condition u invoked bot after i
>>76450230
posted how to get sculpturesque calves here:
>>76449600

>>76450336
Hi botposter
I have a fringe theory that jumping rope is especially good for cardio compared to other forms and part of the reason is that the calf stimulation increases flow back to the heart
This is one of the reasons I feel boxers and other fighters swear by it
I would love your schizo opinions on this

>>76449548 (OP)
Uh huh. What's the name of this "second heart?"

>>76450406
cardio secundus

>>76450430
cor secundum if anything
or deuteri cardia
you utter pleb

>>76450315
Single ventricle palliation. The vena cavae are surgically attached to the pulmonary artery to facilitate venous with the right ventricle being missing from birth.

>>76450430
>>76450463
kek

>>76450486
This sound both like a crude mad medieval alchemist hackjob, and an amazing feat of modern medicine.

>>76449600
>source: medical school of new delhi

>>76449705
You know that you can be toe or midfoot striking with regular shoes? It doesn't matter if it's barefott, as long as it's zero drop ar less than 5mm heel.

I use a backpack. Unfortunately, mine can't hold more than 8x5kg plates, so the reps are getting a bit ridiculous. It seems to hit the calves much better than a machine, likely because it requires some balancing as well.

>>76449556
>Otherwise all runnings would have big calves and they don't
Runners are small because being light improves performance, so they don't eat much. Hiking and trail running most certainly does work the calves. But of course there are exercises better suited to it, like various kinds of line hops.

>>76449600
Fucking hate hearing from this jeet schizo, could you start tripfagging already so I can filter you?

>>76450430
That's where Emperor Corrino's troops trained!

>>76449600
Shut

>>76449556
>>76449705
so my calves getting bigger from running/jogging 4~5 times a week are fake? these huge balls growing at the back of my leg are just an illusion?
do you even run?

Overly large calves look like ballsacks

>>76449548 (OP)
What do you think?

>>76449548 (OP)
LMFAO

>>76449556
imagine being so confidently wrong

>>76450510
>medieval alchemist hackjob, and an amazing feat
We call this medicine

>>76449548 (OP)
nope

>>76449571
Running up sand dunes is probably the ultimate calf exercise. I'm convinced it's also something to do with the way people walk, some subtle difference that favors the muscle over the tendon.

>>76452239
most people don't walk that much so prob not

>>76449829

You're literally pushing the baby muscle you have to the side. You have chicken legs with tiny calves.

>>76452239
>I'm convinced it's also something to do with the way people walk, some subtle difference that favors the muscle over the tendon.
me too, i am actually certain of it as my first baby noob gains on calves i got during winter with my 40 minutes paced walk with perfectest posture possible - i did like 7 of these
it's gotta be slight anterior pelvic tilt and internal hip rotation that allows for longer stride and bend in knee and ankle at the same time propelling yourself forward with your calf
>>76450822
>so my calves getting bigger from running/jogging 4~5 times a week are fake? these huge balls growing at the back of my leg are just an illusion?
>do you even run?
no, i have seen it first hand: dude in hs picked up rooning and leaned out all over his body BUT calves, his calves stayed fat :D it looked hillarious cause it was like dead weight on him :D no bot, rooning does not utilise calf muscle but achilles tendon elasticity, that's why nignogs are decent rooners - a lot of tendon to store potential energy in during roon
walking (on flat and without added weight induced bend forward) is using muscle actively, provided u know what u're looking for and apply these changes to gait

>but i thought u can grow any muscle with weight training and hypertrophy stimuli ?
yes of course:
>>76450336
>>76450230
>>76449600
and then u walk and USE your second (and 3rd as u quipped somewhere in this thread bot) heart :D
>great legs, real legs, anti-chicken-legs:
>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NfwtDIscQm8
>do as isometric hold over table height, unilaterally, extend other leg below table for MOAR load
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NfwtDIscQm8

>>76449829
Now try taking a picture standing up, faggot. You still have stick legs.

>>76449829
What is that a 15m ankle? You are also putting pressure on the calf so it looks bigger. Stand up with nothing but air touch your calf and take the picture again
You are right about calves growing well under proper conditions though

>>76449829
lol this is equal to fat chick stuffing herself in ass promoting leggings

are you mentally challenged?

>>76449705
Retard. You can change your gait to be striking with the ball of your foot while running in normal shoes, not everything needs to be about CONSOOMING new PRODUCT.

>>76453676
>schizo who never went outside telling people who actually workout regularly that they are wrong
You are literally the guy from this picture lmao

>>76454566
>You can change your gait to be striking with the ball of your foot while running in normal shoes
In normal shoes, you can. In overpriced piece of shit "running shoes", it's damn near impossible, though. When I switched from muhbrand shoes to 15€ martial arts shoes after the former broke, I couldn't believe how easy running was all of a sudden.

Weighted carries and weighted jumps have helped my calves. I do plyo jumps with a weighted vest or a Bulgarian bag on my shoulders. I do farmer's carries with the vest and weights in each hand. And I finish with weighted jump rope since calves love volume.