Thread 76493466

Is it truly the superior back movement.

yeah but you posted the most garbage variant you could ever do
only fucking retards do bent over rows when there are dozens of vastly superior variants

Rows are just an accessory for weighted chinups.

>>76493480
No.

>>76493466 (OP)
Are the gorilla ones good?

>>76493466 (OP)
>>76493536
Since my upper body day is usually the Monday after my full-body day which I do Weighted Pull-Ups and Deadlifts I've been struggling with getting Rows done on upper body day heck I've been struggling to pick the bar up from the Smith and even if I do I can only get ego reps in any tips on alleviating this

>>76493536
I don't do any vertical pull anymore. I'm not a monkey or a rock climber.

>>76493480
you do barbell rows not bent over? pretty low resistance

>>76493651
Have you tried following an actual program rather than making up your own retarded bullshit?

>>76493662
Forearms status?

>>76493684
Used chatgpt actually

>>76493684
>>76493842
For context I wanted a program that I could finish quickly and so in 2/3 days since I work alot

>>76493684
good goy

>>76493480
>vastly superior variants
like?

Only Pendlay Rows. Nothing burns my back like those.

>>76493480
Nah, close grip makes my lats get sore like crazy prob cuz their small tho
>>76493962
These flair up my sciatica in my left leg

>>76493842
so retarded

The Australian pull up targets the same muscles, without putting strain on the lower back.
Rows are for Low IQ individuals.

>>76494175
Only the beer-addled brain of some criminal lowlife's great-grandson could think up an exercise like that

>>76494212
enjoy your back pain for no reason.
S/O based ausies

>>76494175
This is retarded mate

>>76493962
notice how this image doesn't highlight in red the very lower back lmao
everyone i know that did lots of bent over rows has to basically hang upside down to fix his lower back pains

>>76494175
Biggest guy in my gym does these.
However he also messed up finishing up a set once and had the weight land on his nail and literally rip the entire things out of his finger too
I shan't be doing them.

>>76494175
>>76494293
But someone with an ounce of self respect wouldn't do these in a public gym

>>76493466 (OP)
This is the worst shit you can do for your lower back

>>76494175
I hate how much the bent over row stress the lower back too, but this is retarded. Just do barbell pendlay and dumbbell kroc rows off of the back of an inclined bench. Or seated cable rows. Chest supported rows are one of the few machines I like, although not every version I've tried was good.

>>76494979
>>76495072
Just wear a fucking belt

>>76493466 (OP)
back responds best to the explosive variant barbell row SS teaches but I notice nobody wants to do them in gyms because they do not want to look like a douchebag weight hitting floor or subscribed to body builder time under tension bro mindset.

>>76494948
stop caring about what other people think of you
only losers who obsess over the theoretical opinions of randoms they dont know actually think about other people and then project that caring onto the rest of us, that don't give a fuck what others are doing in the gym

>>76493466 (OP)
Did the standard grip version of these the other day for the first time (normally use machine).

Such a good exercise. was feeling it for days after.

>>76494175
can i just lay below a table and pull myself up?

>>76494175
How do you place that plate on your stomach?

>>76495260
feet on the ground, one arm on bar, one arm to place, grab bar with both arms and put your feet up
its convoluted once bodyweight doesn't work

>>76493962
>knee up leg over
I just do supplementary back work I don't wanna be rowing 495 like I bench 315

>>76493466 (OP)
One of the few times I prefer machines. Seated chest supported rows are just better.

>>76493466 (OP)
Every faggot ITT that doesn't like these is gay as fuck and dumb. Do these in the smith machine just like the picture shows. Set the stops so it bottoms out while you are still standing like in the OPs Pic. Lower back is fine if you just brace. Athleen X has a video on how to do them. You can go insanely heavy and there are zero lower back concerns.

>>76495370
>everyone but me is gay
>smith machine
>athlean x
Three strikes and you're out.

>>76495370
I bet you wear gloves to the gym

Do you have to actually touch the bar to your stomach when doing rows?
Lately i've been meeting resistance at the top of my row, the final inch or so.

Everyone who does BB rows seems to fall into two categories:
>Weight is too low, the bar moves at a 30 degree angle to gravity and the guy's grip/biceps/lowback/whatever give out first
>Weight is too high, guy's torso moves up and down, more than the bar, needs 5+ mins between sets bc the low back is dead.
If you stubborn retards ABSOLUTELY have to do this dogshit variation, push your ass against the wall or a squat rack to add more stability.

Or just literally do any chest supported variation.

>>76495817
Yes because getting your elbows behind your back is the goal. Lower weight if not.

>>76493466 (OP)
I suck at these because forearm injury nuked my grip strength

>>76495318
this machine is retarded. I load it up with 5 plates on each side and it feels easy. Whereas a strict 2pl8 barbell row is much harder.

>>76496532
Chest supported row machines aren't all created equal. That one looks retarded, and most inclined machines are just bad. They can be amazing.

>chest supported
If you can't do leg supported rows you're extremely unathletic. It's excusable up until a certain point. For example you obviously you don't have to do olympic lifts. And it's okay to do simpler variants of the squat. But chest supported rows? Come the fuck on.

>>76494282
You’re responding to the wrong image. Pendlay rows are easier for on your lower back than bent over because you rest the bar on the ground.
Snapping your shit doing rows is a skill issue.

>>76495190
Not really, some exercises are entirely unpractical and you should be rightfully ridiculed for doing retarded shit. Pretending to ignore that doesn’t suddenly make you not retarded.

>>76493480
>slightly bent over
>supinated grip
>close grip
Literally the cream of the crop of the row world buddy, an exercise fit for kings and intellectuals

>>76496654
>>supinated grip
wait will switching my grip help me pendlay row more?

>>76493466 (OP)
>Has literally never ever touched a barbell in his life
>Backmogs you to hell and back
This is why Mentzer saw the light and got his clients to start doing chins of chin pulldowns

>>76493850
If you only want to go to the gym 2 or 3 times per week, why don't you just do full body every day? also how much time is there in between weighted chins/DLs and when you do rows?

>>76497804
This guy in particular? Because gymnasts do lift weights

>>76494175
That looks pretty fun I'll be trying this on my next session

>>76497853
Twas only a day

>>76497107
I don't know, I like my pendlays normal, I tried gripping them like a yates row a couple of times but they just feel very wrong on my biceps