Thread 76499152

Shouldn't your body go into
>I CANT BREED AAAH
overdrive? Like let's say you are an incel and stopped jerking off, no porn also then why wouldn't your body do everything it can to push you towards getting out there and finding a nice girl to fuck? Why wouldn't NoFap drive your test up?

Day 60 and i don't even think about it anymore, just fucking do it and see for yourself

>>76499152 (OP)
How tf did that pencil arms get a goth gf like that? I have 3x his arm size with abs and I have never touched a girl's hands.

>>76499152 (OP)
i think it does up to a point
beyond that point it gives up and goes "being horny with no release is torture, imma stop producing horny hormones"

>>76499161
>hairmaxxed
>socialmaxxed
>touchgrassmaxxed

>>76499161
All about face and social skills.
Just be skinny and have good social skills and you will be able to fuck any chick you want.

>>76499152 (OP)
It does at about 1 week

>>76499152 (OP)
it does boost test for a week. yes it does go back to baseline levels after a week but everyone neglects to mention that after that it is easier to increase test than if you were still a coom addict

>>76499161
couples are a psyop, real people never get into relationships, all the pictures on the internet are made by the gubbermint to get you to make more taxcattle with another illusioned retard

Stop overthinking stuff and just try it man its not that hard and if you keep failing its cuz ur a bitch, maybe your life will get better maybe it will get worse who knows only you will so go try hard things and build character

That being said its such a psyop to reduce everything in male life to "hurr does xyz increase test" I promise you there are men with high test who are complete faggots and pussies, do you wanna be like them? There are probably low test guys who are happier or more successful than you ever thought of being. My point is to quit being a dumbass and use your brain a bit, if porn and jacking off make you feel bad do you really need any other reason to stop?

>>76499161
not pictured: them breaking up 2 weeks after this because he stood next to a guy who was slightly bigger than him

>>76499247
>>76499262
is this true chat

>>76499275
just snoped the posts, facts check out and are peer reviewed and approved

>>76499280
>snopes
@grok what is unc yapping about?

>>76499152 (OP)
How much socializing do you need to get a girlfriend? Like is going to a run club 1x a week enough?

>>76499161
>goth gf
What about her is goth?
Zoomers are so fucking retarded it's insane

>>76499295
>socializing to get a gf
doesn't exist, do you know anything with a gf? obvs not, that's because no one does it

>>76499152 (OP)
>Shouldn't your body go into
>I CANT BREED AAAH
>overdrive?
Well, it kinda does. Lower testosterone makes you more agreeable and weaker, which makes it less likely for chad to see you as a rival, which in turn makes it more likely for you to get close o his women and go for sloppy seconds.
On the other hand, doing all the things linked to high testosterone - plenty of sex, physical exhaustion, and adrenaline - makes your body believe that you're the chad, and need to be able to maintain your position.
In fact, it's kinda similar to muscle training, with using up the available testosterone making your body create more, just like exhausting your muscles will grow them stronger.

However, that's only the shifts in equilibrium. In the short term (8-72h, depending on study), not using testosterone, in other words, not training, fighting, or ejaculating, does in fact increase testosterone levels. That's the part of the studies the nofappers normally quote.

No porn, on the other hand, is allaround a good thing. It lowers your standards to where you'll be happy with an obese butterface, and stops you from getting weird ideas like women being aroused by pleasing men.

>>76499295
No idea man. I just do job > gym > grocery store > home, and haven't had romantic opportunities in 2.5yrs. Sex havers seem like alien creatures to me now.

New idea- Couples should be banned from public venues past 8pm, it should exclusively be for single people to meet each other and hook up. Bouncers should legally be allowed execute couples from bars/pubs if they didn't explicitly meet each other as strangers there

>>76499152 (OP)
Testosterone is probably 20% designed for reproduction. It does way more socially with confidence, calmness, independent thinking.

If anything isn't oestrogen half the horny drive given the reason you get that morning rush to fuck after a night of drinking is because your E spikes.

>>76499161
Youre not beeing yourself enough.

>>76499213
they are both brown who fucking cares

>>76499152 (OP)
The problem is that you're looking for a reward mechanism for not acting like a degenerate. There is none. Just stop acting like a degenerate and go back to being a baseline normal person instead of gooning and watching porn. You shouldn't need a prize in order to be a functional member of society.

it literally does retard. Test tends to increase every day you no fap up to 7 days and then it stops. So you should be doing weekly faps and harnessing your sexual energy with a magical ritual

>>76499161
It's almost like you have to be a likeable person and have e the balls to try and try again

>>76499152 (OP)
It actually normalizes dopamine

>>76499152 (OP)
>Why doesn't NoFap increase testosterone?
It definitely does. I've gone months on nofap and never in my life did I have as much motivation to be productive as during that time.

Also multiple girls in my dorm (who were in 7-9/10 territorry) constantly talked to me and added me on IG.

>>76499365
You work in the trades? I think its been years since I even met a woman

Your body has a certain genetic wiring for your baseline testosterone levels.

>>76499161
Try liking yourself and see what happens. Attraction's a strange animal in any event.

>>76501006
I do like myself to the point I'm taking selfies in the mirror to mire my own physique, I just don't seem to be able to reciprocate that to girls, I'm really social at my gym and talk to a lot of people there

>>76499152 (OP)
It is more so a mindset thing. Test does increase that first week, but then returns to baseline. At the very least, limit yourself to once a week, maybe a Friday to cool off or some shit.

Also, if you jerk off and have the mindset that it is gross/loser gooner shit, then you will feel like a loser gooner. I have tried changing mindset around it but fail because deep down I think we know it's loser gooner shit.

>>76501073
Then you are on the right track, start small like talking to cashier or fat women to hone your skills. Then work your way up. Also how tall are you

>>76502546
Yeah fapping is for losers, it wasn’t even about the streak/days

>>76502546
Yeah same. There’s no way to fap without shame. None.

Like you be super rich and can do cocaine in a mansion with beautiful girls in your hot tub but in the back of your mind you know some homeless guy is also doing it under a brigde and some Mexican kid got his head cut off to smuggle that drug. You might not even think about it at all, but simply having that knowledge means you’ll never stop seeing it as degenerate.

Because so many of the “top” fappers are basement dwelling freaks, furry, loli, hentai, perverted addicts. You are in the camp even if you fap once a month. You are doing the same thing they do. Sure they do it 5x a day and you once a month. But like I said, having that knowledge ruins it.

>>76499161
>goth
??????????????????

>>76499152 (OP)
After doing nofap for a long time and recently relapsing to daily cooming, I've only noticed two changes:
1. Feel a little less "oomph" during lifting. Maybe related to zinc depletion?
2. Noticeable scalp DHT itch increase. I was already thinning but I've noticed it getting worse lately.

>>76499160
>i don't even think about it anymore
Porn? jacking off? girls?
Elaborate.

>>76499152 (OP)
homeostasis bro you're body is good at it

/thread

>>76499152 (OP)
Of course it does. Just stick to it for a while and it will work. For results roid at the same time.

>>76502722
I did NoFap and ended up with the confidence to fuck 5 different women in a month

>>76502870
Wait DHT scalp itch? Elaborate. My scalp is itchy all the time. What does it mean?

>>76502722
>Like you be super rich and can do cocaine in a mansion with beautiful girls in your hot tub but in the back of your mind you know some homeless guy is also doing it under a brigde and some Mexican kid got his head cut off to smuggle that drug. You might not even think about it at all, but simply having that knowledge means you’ll never stop seeing it as degenerate.

What a dumb retarded argument this can literally apply to all products consumed and created under Crapitalism

>ughh better bad about muh shoes being produced by chunks
>ughh can't enjoy this burger because the cows were murdered brutally
>ughh can't enjoy these vehicles made with metal by subpar pay slave labor

>>76504983
Nta but I didn't want to risk someone not telling you. If your scalp is regularly cared for and did t used to itch and now it itches, particularly in the areas men lose hair, it's a likely sign you're about to start thinning there.
If you still have hair anon, consider low dose topical fin. Topical, anon.
God bless you brother.

>>76499152 (OP)
I have a date this Sunday.
Girl is 5ft10in tall.
Haven't had a GF since 2016.
Wish me luck lads.

>>76505221
tell her her necklace looks nice

>>76505221
tell her about the bear and the eagle

>>76499152 (OP)
Because you just nut in your sleep retard. Busting a nut regularly either from jerking or fucking is healthy and keeps your pipes and sperm production working properly. You're body has several functions to compel you to do things to keep yourself healthy and nocturnal emissions is one of them.

>>76499223
>>76499234
>>76499796
>doesn't know about the 3 week study
>will now start saying you need to jerk off every 3 weeks while not recognizing the pattern

>>76499152 (OP)
It does. No fap for a week and I want to go out on the weekend. Fap Saturday morning and im happy just to sit on the couch for rest of day and play vidya.

>fap
>women hate me
>no fap
>women hate me
>get in shape
>women hate me
>get into an "attractive" hobby
>women hate me
>get a better job
>women hate me

>>76505409
Then you're still unattractive. In that case you have to choose a certain style niche to appeal to the women that are into those types of guys

I can't believe people still seriously talk about nofapping and shit like that in 2025. On /fit/ of all places, this board is /r9k/ tier in terms of IQ.

>>76505506
i threw out my pocket pussy to focus on my gf’s pussy

>>76499160
When you do eventually have a wank or sex your dick will be unabke to shoot the cum out.
T.18 month no fap now once a month to stop dick mucle atrophy

>>76505494
im not even ugly, I have a good face and Ive had countless women be initially interested in me. but the second I start giving them attention and actually being myself they get the ick and back out. I will always fucking hate myself so no woman could possibly love me.

>>76505733
better than me. i’ve had countless women offer sex and i backed out

>>76499152 (OP)
>Why doesn't NoFap increase testosterone?
>stopped jerking off, no porn also then why wouldn't your body do everything it can to push you towards getting out there and finding a nice girl to fuck?
that is exactly what happens though!?
you get sensitized
you get more sociable
and you'd put more effort into dating

only
only that this doesn't help
when you're an anti social schizo and never leave their basement

and testosterone has little to do with it
test only (significantly) influences libido when it's very low

>>76505754
thats not better than me lmao. you could actually get laid if you wanted to. I cant unless i pay some 3/10 prostitute hundreds of dollars.

>>76505762
NoFap just made me cum quicker. All the guys that were having sex early became fathers young I don’t envy them

>>76505763
i don’t even enjoy having sex with my gf so i don’t think i missed out

>>76505775
having sex is fun for like the first month or so and then it just becomes meh unless you go without for a while or cheat on yo gurl. that being said I havent had a gf for 12 years so it would probably be great at this point. haha man life is so sick.

>>76505409
>do anything BUT improve my social skills and being more interesting conversationalist / to be around
>why do women (/everyone) hate me?
hmm

if you want actual advice
get into a social hobby where you are force to be around people and talk with them, improve your social skills
maybe pick up creative writing to get better at talking about our experience aka storytelling
"attractive" hobbies are not real anyway, just don't reveal your power level

getting in shape, having a good job and interesting hobbies are kinda like bonus points
it helps (a lot) but alone isn't enough

>>76505787
my social skills are good. I have an incredibly easy time making women laugh. The problem is that I hate myself and women can sniff it out of me even when I try to hide it. theres no solution except 12 gauge retirement.

>>76505785
i thought that’s what i wanted to bro after being in a drought but i deeply regret it and i’m stuck

>>76505812
>I have an incredibly easy time making women laugh
laugh WITH or ABOUT you??
or is an awkward "please don't parkland / columbine me" laugh?

>The problem is that I hate myself and women can sniff it out of me even when I try to hide it
doesn't sound like you try

how about just don't hating yourself anymore?
indifference is better than hate

>>76505221
How tall are you?

>>76505836
>just stop being mentally ill

you should be a therapist

>>76499234
>yes it does go back to baseline levels after a week
so you're saying we need to goon cycle? one week gooning then the next week no-gooning to constantly stimulate test.

>>76505956
test naturally cycles, test itself produces feedback that slows the production of test

you cant have your cake and eat it too

>>76499152 (OP)
Nothing increases testosterone short of taking supplements.
But there are things _inhibiting_ your bodies normal testosterone production and avoiding them can get them out of the way and maximise what your body produces:
lose weight if you're overweight - fat produces an enzyme which inhibits testosterone production
avoid stress - cortisol inhibits testosterone production (and your immune system too)
get plenty of sleep - your body produces testosterone, and also recovers from working out, when you sleep (and lack of sufficient sleep leads to stress which results in cortisol)

>>76505877
why is self hate automatically mental illness?

and even if
indifference is a valid coping strategy

>>76500833
go and cum in them

>>76505715
When I did nofap for a year I started getting mor ing wood again and every couple months would nut in my sleep.

>>76499152 (OP)
It does go into that and the lack of prolactin spikes does increase it in the first week only

>>76499161
Because muscles don't matter as much as you think they are

>>76499152 (OP)
>why doesnt nofap change my homeostasis?
u might as well ask why you cant replace lifting weights with nofap

>>76499152 (OP)
There are a ton of reasons it probably wouldn't be worth. One is you might be alone so spiking your test until you cum might be an infinite amount because you physically aren't near any women to breed this time of year.

Another is that maybe if you aren't getting laid, it's better for the species for you to continue not getting laid and to focus on powering up Chadgrog

>>76499409
You probably get a morning rush for the same reason we all get morning wood, test spikes while sleeping

>>76499152 (OP)
I never masturbated in high school. not once. Didn't get me any benefits or advantages in that regard though, not in any significant way.
But I was laser focused on my studies constantly.

>>76505787
that's just it.
You have all these cartoon-watching shut-in incels who cant even hold a conversation with their own mother thinking that if they just had some small fleeting increase in testosterone they be all jacked and charismatic and confident n shit.
"High test" doesnt "feel" like anything and doesnt change your personality.
I'm blasting 2000mg/week testosterone (yes 2 grams that's not a typo) and some primo right now and the only thing it does is cause insane muscle growth and high blood pressure and a bit of a libido increase.

>>76505812
If making women laugh gets you laid, danny devito and carrot top would be getting all the pussy.
You are just a clown and a goof off with no sexual desirability

>>76507599
yeah Im well aware the humor meme is a lie perpetuated by women and Im a genetic dead end, thanks anon.

>>76505362
yeah that happens less as you age and im still in a normal t range. i was 37 at the time too

>>76507719
more likely you have average normal genetics but lack social skills/have a personality disorder

>>76499152 (OP)
It... does?

It's incredibly difficult to argue nofap "science", because every discussion is so incredibly spotty and seems to be buried behind 3 layers of cognitive dissonance.

My experience as someone with testicles is that one day without masturbation causes me to start getting hornier and one week into it causes me to base my behavior around trying to get laid.

Testosterone levels are intrinsically interlinked with your reproductive health (obviously) and your testicles don't explode if you don't have sex, but cause the excess nutrients to used for building proteins.

This is my ground level contribution to this.
I'm not going to say it's impossible to argue with, but it's kind of impossible to ignore.
Someone tell me if there's something about this that doesn't make sense to you.