Thread 76611230

Events (in order):
>3RM trap bar deadlift
150lbs minimum (60 points), 350lbs maximum (100 points)
>max hand release pushups in 2 minutes
15 minimum (60 points), 58 maximum (100 points)
>sprint-drag-carry
A medley consisting of 50m sprint, 50m 90lbs sled drag (pic related), 50m side straddle, 50m farmer's carry with 2x 50lbs kettlebells, 50m sprint. 2:28 minimum (60 points), 1:29 maximum (100 points)
>plank
1:30 minimum (60 points), 3:40 maximum (100 points)
>10 minute rest, then a 2 mile run
19:57 minimum (60 points), 13:22 maximum (100 points)
>must score at least 60 in each event and at least 350 overall

>>76611230 (OP)
Full scoring table here:
https://www.army.mil/e2/downloads/rv7/aft/AFT_Scoring_Scales_250601.pdf

>>76611230 (OP)
500

I could do all of them except the two mile run

Id be bad at dying for Israel (self esteem crushed.)

>>76611230 (OP)
I will fail them all.

What do you get if you get the max score on everything

>>76611597
The goyim of the week award and the fantastic opportunity to be the first to step on a landmine in a country you hadn't heard of two weeks ago

>>76611230 (OP)
This looks like it was put together by some crossfit retard. The test never should have changed from
>push-ups
>sit-ups
>pull-ups
>run

>>76611729
>this
I hate the new PT Test and refuse to acknowledge its existence. I use the old standards as a measure of my fitness.

>>76611249
>>76611604
gm saar

>>76611729
The old test caused the services to view skinnyfat twigs as the paragon of fitness though. With the new one people are forced to actually lift if they want to score well.

>>76611729
that test never existed

>>76612147
>old test caused the services to view skinnyfat twigs as the paragon of fitness

Nope. It placed an emphasis on cardio, because the people that actually fight rely on cardio to hump a ruck over long distances, run across a drop zone to assemble, and bound from cover to cover in assault kit. Meanwhile all the pathetic non-combat pieces of shit sit on their asses, get fat, and can't run like the combat men.

Regardless, the new standards are a fucking joke, and are 100% designed by D.E.I. policy to allow females into combat units where they'll continue to slow down the men and make our military worse as a result.

>>76611230 (OP)
>50m farmer's carry with 2x 50lbs kettlebells
what a ridiculously short distance; I could do it with like 100lb kettlebells but I do more like 15-25lbs groceries for 1-2 miles routinely instead, lmao.

>>76611729
>pull ups
way to out yourself as a sub 2pl8 bodyweight sissy twink!

>>76612589
Its very easy to do Pull-ups at 200lbs, if you can't at 225, youre a fat sack

>>76612609
Ya mahbe if you're some 5'6 nothing manlet with short arms
meanwhile im out here 6'1 325lbs like bruh not everyone's a stocky little fuck like you come on boy even eddie hall cant do pullups and hes roiding come on bruh

>>76612618
>meanwhile im out here 6'1 325lbs
I'm same height like 110lbs lighter and have no problem busting out like 18 pullups str8; my heaviest I was at 265 and could still do like 6 of 'em, you're just skill issues and need a cut lmao.

>>76612558
Yeah, no. I don't care what you think about the new test. It objectively does a better job of measuring shit that's relevant to combat operations, like lifting heavy shit or moving quickly with heavy shit or having the endurance to do a long movement after moving heavy shit. You're looking at pictures of dudes in BDUs and jerking off over the SOVL they had but not seeing the effects the culture of physical training at the time had on the average soldier's fitness, even in combat arms. In the days of the APFT, you could score 300 all day long but not be physically capable of basic shit like pulling a wounded comrade out of a vehicle or moving a heavy machine gun, which is totally fucking backwards.
You'll also notice in the scoring tables that the male standards are also the standards for combat arms, meaning a female has to pass at a higher standard to be in any combat MOS.

>>76611230 (OP)
500 and Im 45. Holy fucking shit, what are the SF tests?

>>76612798
irrelevant

>>76612911
Im comparing myself to the the tests for 17-21 year olds. Utter dog shit levels.

>>76612147
But they are

>>76611751
Not dying for Israel is brown coded? Enlighten me.

This new test they came up with is a D.E.I. clusterfuck, a logistical nightmare for unit's, and created by some fat faggot or some gym puke that doesn't have to hump a ruck on the reg.

>Deadlift
Good concept. Evaluate the ability to hump a litter, right? WRONG! With a 150 lb minimum standard, they may as well not even have a standard. No man worth a fuck can't deadlift over 200 lbs, and the only reason the standard is so low is to accommodate females.
>Hand release pushup
Really? What's wrong with the regular pushup? Why is the minimum standard 15? FIFTEEN? That's an insult, and yet more female accommodation.
>sprint, drag, carry
Great concept, but leave it to the army to fuck it all up. Dragging 90 lbs? Carrying only 80 pounds? Should be a 200 lb carry, and a 200 lb buddy carry and be done with it. More D.E.I. slop.
>plank
Yea, fuck off.
>2 mile run
A 13:22 is the fastest ANYBODY in the army has to run 2 miles to max it, which is ALMOST as pathetic as the min run time of 19:57. That's pathetic, and yet more female pandering because they're so fucking slow.

They should have kept the old test, raised the standard across the board by 10%, added a 200 lb buddy carry, a 200 lb casualty drag, and a 12 mile road march with a 50 lb ruck in under 3 hours.

But the army is ran by faggots and idiots, so of course they came up with that trash.

I could pass it. Not gonna lie I would be gassed after the 2 mile run though.

>>76612771
Nah, the old test was fine. Dudes that ran 13's and under you knew had a good cardio base to build on, and if they could knock out at least 60 push ups, you knew they had decent upper body strength. This new test is great if you're working as a mechanic in a motor pool, but it sucks if you need guys to carry 80 lbs of shit all day while searching for Kaiser Soze in some unknown valley, or be able to keep up while clearing an 8000 ft runway and taxiways, or running off the birds and doing the 600 meter dash to the assault position. Cardio was always the biggest weakness of the guys, not strength.

>>76613797
>I could pass it. Not gonna lie I would be gassed after the 2 mile run though.
Really? With like 20 g'damn minutes? You can't run 2 miles in just under 20 minutes?

>>76613805
I said I could do it but I would be gassed. I am not a runner I just lift and walk and occasionally ride my bike.

>>76613791
The point of any fitness test is to assess soldiers' fitness across a range of domains so you can plan physical training accordingly and get them fit enough to perform tasks in the unit's METL. The test doesn't need to have super high standards to do that.
Most commanders and PT program designers suck at programming PT, but if done properly, the fitness test is used to gauge initial performance levels, while a more specific evaluation event is designed and performed during or after a training cycle. This can be much more intense and tied to specific performance demands, such as being able to displace a heavy machine gun position under a certain time limit. Having a standardized test across the Army that tests a variety of fitness domains makes it easy for commanders to get a snapshot of their soldiers' fitness before making more specific programs tied to the actual duties and tasks of the unit... or at least, it should, except that 90% of units just train for the test and call that good enough.

>>76613802
I partially agree. My biggest problem with the ACFT/AFT is the vastly lower standards for the 2-mile and the corresponding lower overall cardio fitness standards it encourages. The minimum passing time (~16:30 iirc) for the youngest age bracket on the APFT now gets you 84 points on the AFT, for example. As a result some of the chonkier dudes have found ways to minmax their tests to where they can destroy the deadlift/SDC/pushups and suffer through the plank and 2-mile with passing scores while remaining fat as fuck.
That said, the opposite end of the spectrum was what we had before, where dudes might be excellent at cardio but not have the power to do shit like bring mortar rounds to a gunline quickly during a battle or pull someone who gets wounded while wearing full gear out of a fighting position. I was one of those people myself back in the day.

>>76611230 (OP)
everything but the plank, fuck planks

>>76611249
cant believe how ugly he is in live action, all his pictures were heavily photoshopped, i still cant believe it

>>76615216
Im a retard and I dont know who that guy is. Who is this guy?>>76611249

the difficult part of being in the army is the constant fatigue and injury rate due to incompetent boomers who don't believe in proper rest

>>76611597
>What do you get if you get the max score on everything
you get bullied by your peers and your superiors will make you work twice as much for the same salary

>>76613791
> and the only reason the standard is so low is to accommodate females.
wtf? they have the same bar for men and women?

>>76611230 (OP)
I'd pass all of this very well, which figures because I have a lot of stamina and a moderate amount of power, and army guys are either 110% into it, and would roughly match me, or they're skinnyfat goldbrickers, who drag the average down.

>>76612147
How many videos of bodybuilders being unable to fight do you need to see before realising that most people are not training for anything practical, and that lifting is only part of the equation.

Fast mental arithmetic alone won't make you a great engineer, and benching won't make you a soldier.
CrossFit is fucking gay and stupid, too.

>>76613812
Fair enough.

>>76613827
>90% of units just train for the test and call that good enough.

Which is exactly why I shit all over their low, bitch made "standards".

>>76615301
>they have the same bar for men and women?
Yes, for women in "combat units", which is why the standards are so fucking low. They set them that low exactly to give females a chance to be in a "combat unit", where they just slow the men down and fuck up the unit cohesion. If they had real standards then 90+% of the bitches willing to volunteer for the military would never make it in because they're too fucking slow, too fat, and too fucking weak.

>>76611597
You used to get a badge you could sew on to your PT uniform, pic related. These days you basically just get a firm handshake from your CO.

>>76616142
>they're too fucking slow, too fat, and too fucking weak
just like the men

>>76612558
nope. it placed an emphasis on sodomy because the army is for homo's.

>>76616142
fuck off dude. you think a sausage fest is better, of course you do homo. guess what. if you were deployed in ukraine. you'd die in 6 hours.
you don't need to be strong or even training to just go die in 6 hours.

>>76616739
not exactly

>>76611230 (OP)
I would MOG this silly little "test"

>>76616747
>pussywhipped faggot whiteknighting for bitches
Just kys already.

>>76616749
Queers are human cancer and have no place in society and should be culled.

>>76617297
that's the point

The test should be
-lift 1/2/3/4
-do 12 good chinups
-sprint 100m in 15 sec
-survive for at least 60 sec without losing in a martial art of your choice against an expert (boxing, BJJ, wrestling, etc) or something along those lines

>>76616747
>I've never served in a coed unit
Women in armed forces were a fucking mistake. They completely ruin unit cohesion and cause everyone else to work more because they simply can't do half the stuff required because everything is still designed with men in mind. All that to please women and politicians in the name of equality.

>>76612558
>hump
>ruck
>kit
We don’t speak Golem here.
Mutt soldiers suck and got filtered by Afghanistan’s hills, a terrain feature the Hypaspists with heavy shields and armor were able to overcome while simultaneously assaulting fortified positions of the Afghans.

>>76612798
I know a navy seal and their fitness standards are low relative to what you see them become after they join a seal team.
The training is hard because they deprive you of sleep.
But the fitness is easy.
Once you get accepted by a team your fitness is your own concern and you have nothing better to do but workout all day.

>>76615276
>just walk it off, xir, my daddy lost both legs in Vietnam and today he runs marathons on his fingers

>>76611230 (OP)
I'd probably fail the pushups. had to do this exact same test back in school a few times, and every single time, I messed up the pushups by falling backto the rhythm I do when training (4s down, 4s hold, 4s up, 4s hold). You can do the math.

>>76611230 (OP)
wouldn't it be best to go for middle points? If you score low the sergeant will be on your ass, if you score high your bunk mates will probably beat you up with soap in socks since you made them look bad.

>>76618507
anon it's not 1970 anymore, if you score well your peers will just congratulate you and maybe ask for tips on scoring better

>>76611230 (OP)
This is for men?

>>76619794
!!!!!!!!!

>>76619794
Yes, women's standards are lower. Women seeking to be in combat arms roles have to maintain male standards (though tbqh the difference isn't very much).

>>76611230 (OP)
Talk about zionism and dying for Israel with my fellow goyim draftees

>>76611597
The leader of Israel lets you suck his dick

>deadlifts
easy max
>hand release pushups
I don't know what this means, but I can do 30-50 pushups in good form depending on the day
>sprint drag carry
fine, I practiced it a shit ton when I was trying to get into the navy (I got declined because multiple of my family members that I hadn't seen in more than 10 years were apparently criminals awaiting trial, and they said it disqualified me from holding any form of security clearance)
>plank
my cryptonite
>10 minute rest
might fail this
>2 mile run
doable

>>76611230 (OP)
>3RM trap bar deadlift
I'll take the minimum who cares +60
>max hand release pushups in 2 minutes
do 20 and be done with it +60
>sprint-drag-carry
this is my world +100
>plank
3:40 easy +100
>10 minute rest, then a 2 mile run
my 2mi PR is 11 mins easy +100

>must score at least 60 in each event and at least 350 overall
420 I passed but I'm not joining the army because I'm not cսck

>>76620001
hand release pushups are where when you go down your chest hits the ground and you spread your arms out like you're T-posing before doing the next rep
they're designed to kinda punish both people who go too fast (burns out your front delt) and people who go too slow when putting their arms out (burns out your rear delt)

>>76611751
Jeets are your side, Schlomo.

>>76611230 (OP)
I’d smoke the strength ones (100s)
For the 2 mile run… I don’t know. Probably around 14 minutes if I push it, 16-18 minutes if I jog it

>>76620471
damn, sounds like having massive melons would be a massive advantage here
might have to troon out before I enlist

>>76620495
>hates Jews
>thinks they own him
I never got this mentality. They’re your superiors but you don’t respect them? That’s illogical. If there was a clearly superior race out there I would happily serve them.

>>76611230 (OP)
Two mile run would be the most difficult part.

>>76611230 (OP)
Isn't jogging every day for with 90lbs or whatever their exercise?

>>76620772
idk, you tell me, foreigner

>>76620772
ZOGbot here. In my experience, 90% of physical training at any random unit consists of the following workouts repeated 1-2x a week:
>2-5 mile run
>calisthenic circuit of pushups/situps/pullups
>literally just the PT test but as a shitty crossfit circuit instead (1 min sled drags, 1 min T pushups, 1 min plank, etc, repeat until its time to leave)
>random gym workout (performed with a group of 4-12 people so you get to awkwardly wait around for the bench or a cable machine to open)
>"PT on your own" aka fuck off to the gym or go home without getting caught

>>76611230 (OP)
i'll take it seriously when they put pullups back in

>>76611230 (OP)
Me at 18-21 could've gotten all of those. Then I started working and all my lifts went to shit and my back exploded. Fuck waging. The only thing men should be waging is war (against you know whos)

>>76611230 (OP)
I was in, in the old days, and the old APFT mostly resulted in a shitload of VA claims later in life. It was really hard on the body.
Arguably, the new test won't result in as much VA claims thus save a shitload of money and human pain in the long run.
The odds of getting hurt doing something drop as you train to do it. So making everyone do at least a little of every kind of training, should result in a hell of a lot less injuries.
This is somewhat orthogonal to the problem of PT where the army found an official way to make soldiers sweat without making any athletic performance gains, which is impressive in a certain negative way. Like our countries greatest enemies couldn't make an athletic program worse for us than official army PT. If you want to get athletic in the Army you have to / had to cheese at official PT to save your energy to work out on your own time to make actual gains.

>>76621106
>men should be waging is war (against you know whos)
Rhymes with whos and biggers by chance?

>>76622854
>old APFT mostly resulted in a shitload of VA claims later in life.
Those claims aren't from the APFT, they were from shitbag "soldiers" trying to get gubmint gibs for doing nothing. Those same shitbags will be making the same claims with this new crossfit-tier cancer test.

>>76611230 (OP)
I was looking at a state guard and their tests.
>PUSH-UPS: (in 2 minutes):
>Male: 15
>Female: 8
>SIT-UPS: (in 2 minutes):
>Male: 25
>Female: 18
>2 MILE RUN:
>Male: 24:00
>Female: 30:00

Arudous PFT requirements
>PUSH-UPS: (in 1 minute):
>Male <30: 44
>Male 30-39: 37
>Male 40-49: 29
>SIT-UPS: (in 1 minute):
>Male <30: 46
>Male 30-39: 42
>Male 40-49: 37
>1.5 MILE RUN:
>Male 18-39: Less than 13.14
>Male 40-49: Less than 14.25

>Arduous duty Maritime
>Maritime Boat Crews require passing a Water Survival test consists of a deep water jump, 200-yard swim in UNIFORM demonstrating 50 yards each of the crawl stroke, breaststroke, sidestroke, and elementary backstroke. Immediately after the completion of the swim, without leaving the water, students will prone float (face down) for 5 minutes then transition to a back float for 10 minutes, then transition to create a makeshift flotation device out of his or her inflated clothing to stay afloat for 20 mins before exiting the water.