Thread 76727624

I'm about to BLAST weighted dips and there's NOTHING you can do to stop me

>>76727624 (OP)
started doing ring dips recently and managed a 3x8 for the first time yesterday, feels good man. I've always done full body workouts though and ring dips impact my ability to do pull ups and vice versa (whichever i do 2nd i manage less reps on) so thinking about trying a split instead. but ive always thought ppl is so bitch made when you're only training each muscle group twice a week as opposed to 3.5x a week doing full body. any anons felt this dilemma?

>>76727643
How do dips impact your pull ups? They're completely different muscle groups. You probably just have shit cardio

>>76727692
you have never done ring dips

>>76727692
i literally went for a >1 hour run later in the day after doing the dips and pull ups, and i live near very steep hills. my cardio is more than good enough to do a couple dips and pull ups. ring dips employ many more muscles than normal dips.

>>76727643
Do pull ups first, then dips. Bodyweight alone it would be best to do:
> Pull ups, Push ups, Squats, Dips, Rest, Repeat.
For 2 minutes each, if you can't perform a pull up just do deadhangs instead and with push ups, do elbow planks the moment you can't do another rep, 3 rounds of this set will leave you fucking wasted. 24 minutes total workout, maximum effort.

>>76727726
Why would it make sense to do pushups before dips ever

>>76727730
It just makes sense, you get recovery time with squats to catch your breath.

>>76727726
is there any logic or reasoning to this at all? you have just vomitted a random routine at me. if you want me to take any of this seriously justify your reasoning. why should i always do pull ups before dips? if i said my pull ups impact my dips then surely i would want to alternate which i do first so that i dont develop an imbalance.

>>76727739
Pull ups require much more effort and work more than your dips do so you want to start with it when you are fresh.

>>76727751
ring dips are harder than pull ups tho

>>76727751
could the people who have never done ring dips please stop replying to my post where i was asking for some advice regarding ring dips

>>76727762
dude its literally just shoulder rotation lmao.

>>76727624 (OP)
>I'm about to BLAST weighted dips and there's N-ACK

>>76727786
>Indian with 20kg grip whines about wrist/grip pain whilst pretending to be white. episode#23091293214.
Yeah fuck of jeet.

>>76727643
>and ring dips impact my ability to do pull ups and vice versa (whichever i do 2nd i manage less reps on) so thinking about trying a split instead.
>>76727692
Dips actually use lats in the beginning of the movement (from down position).

I train dips and pullups together but I make long rest between them, like 5 minutes.

>>76727624 (OP)
RIP your shoulders

>>76727786
I have never ever had wrist pain from dipping and I can quite comfortable dip 40kg (80kg bw) for 12+

>>76727624 (OP)
SOMEONE STOP HIM AHHHH

>>76727624 (OP)
>looks down
>chest pain forever

I am doing weighted dips for few months, heavy weight low reps. So far zero pain or injury.

>>76728191
how heavy? it started to hurt me at around 100lbs.

>>76728084
me

>>76728210
Much less than you.
Maybe human body shouldn't do dips heavier than 100 lb, maybe it's time to go into maintenance mode?
Maybe you can switch to single arm push ups?

>>76727760
Huh?

BIG DIPS

just did 3x9 today with 10kg extra, we gonna make it

>>76727624 (OP)
>>76728084
>>76727786

>I'm about to BLAST weighted dips and there's NOTHING you can do to stop me
cool, when u get tired of no pecs and ruined joints try out this thing:
>>76712863
knuckles no, but paraletts or pair of dumbbells in "neutral grip" and u press in front of you down and u can feel your shoulders wanting to go up, protract em and press down on your hands
> what is it good for ?
pecs :D triceps :D serratus :D anterior :D
i like to flex pecs and hold myself up like that with my feet barely taking any weight, elbows slightly bent
>but what is it good for?
it's the same motion u will do trying to give heart massage but with your shoulders moving, not entire torso like hammer-like like they teach u proper techinique cause otherwise u will tire out in:
>pecs :D triceps :D serratus :D anterior :D
u are depressing shoulders in front of your chest or simply just keep em depressed and don't let them go up
>innit sorta kinda like DIP hooman? don't tell me u fixed the dip now?
yes i ddid bot, shoulders protracted forward allow pecs to work unlike in dip, cause with dip shoulders are retracted and pecs can't work cause they snag on bones of ribcage, it's gonna be lats mostly and only the free parts of pecs - the armpit part, sternal part will get fucked trying to contract but obstructed by ribcage

u don't need to bench for pecs, actually bench is what will rob you of your pecs
>>76727739
>is there any logic or reasoning to this at all?
yes - moar injurious ineffective nonses is better than siingle one or none at all :D

DONT cheat the last 2 reps. Slow right down and embrace that motherfuck.
Thank me later

>>76727801
Post bussy, twink whitoid

>>76727624 (OP)
Im gonna BLAST you with piss and theres NOTHING you can do about it.

>>76728084
post the vocaroo

>>76728364
i said what i said. it depends on how low the rings are hung but i would say most people can probably do more pull ups than they can do ring dips.

>>76727624 (OP)
I'm about to do them with an assistance band because I'm tall and heavy and new to the gym :)

>>76730793
I am not heavy, I could do two deep dips after being untrained for years.

>>76727624 (OP)
I can do them with extra 50kg for about 7 reps, still look like shit. How much do I need to dip to have decent chest and triceps?

>>76730860
You need to have a decent diet to reap the rewards. I can do the same as you but my triceps and chest are huge.

>>76730867
You mean I should eat more or that I should cut. Ngl I'm sort of permabulking, as I care mostly about strength but have autistic obsession with calisthenics.

>>76730877
If you're permabulk it'd be odd if you had no nothing to show under the layers of fat. I bet that if you were lean you'd display some good muscle mass.

>>76730883
Sure, but they're just small. That's the problem

>>76730887
if youre doing 7 reps of dips per set with 50kg added then theyre objectively not that small because most people arent adding that much weight to their dips. what are you even asking about? you look like an untrained fatass because youre overweight, and you said yourself you are perma bulking. so either carry on perma bulking and adding on weight to your dips, or cut if you want to look better. its not fucking rocket science.

Somebody explain the weight mechanics of doing dips. A few years ago I could do weighted dips with +20-25kg when I weighed about 78kg for 6-8 reps. Now I can do 5-10kg when I weigh 86kg for 10-12 reps. Why is extra bodyweight such a big factor in dip strength when the total weight is actually less?

>>76730906
genuinely only explanation is that you got weaker for one reason or another or just got worse at dips. 10kg of extra body weight should be less of an issue than 10kg of added weight.

>>76730860
Fraud, liar.
I only have a fraction of this weight and already decent chest.

>>76730906
You lost muscle mass/strength.

>>76727624 (OP)
Based

Dips are stronger than bench press and more natural, safer, all around better.

I am dipping literally right now. My elbow is not feeling too well bros.

>>76727624 (OP)
Based, I do them with +45kg at 89kg bw now for 8-10 reps :)

>>76731459
How do you connect 45kg to your body?

>>76731524
dip belt

>>76727624 (OP)
Blasted weighted dips today too, only an ez 30kg but felt good man. Been a long time since I've done them.

>>76732034
>>76731459
Mirin

I fucking love dips bros

How the fuck do people do weighed dips?
I cant even do a single bodyweight dip.

>>76732225
Lift weights.

>>76727624 (OP)
I can't do multiple weighted pull ups but I can't do a single dips. Please explain.

>>76732225
>>76732540
If can't do a single dip, then you are fat, start with push ups. After some weeks of push ups, you will do a dip.

Dips are not for fats.

>>76727624 (OP)
>recently got to bodyweight dips after a month with a resistance band
feels good man, pullups next
im a fat fuck at 240 burger units too so if you weigh less than me and cant dip you have NO EXCUSES

>>76734003
You're practically doing my bw + 1pl8. Keep pushing dipsfriend!

>>76734003
>would have to add 80 pounds to my dips to match you
I kneel

yes

ok

>>76727730
do push ups before pull ups and now you realize you just did some soft recruitment of overlapping muscle groups and now your pull ups feel easier...

Blast little girls.

>>76727624 (OP)
BUT ANON, THINK ABOUT THE SHOULDER IMPINGEMENT!!!

>>76730596
How do you cheat a dip? I just push through the stall with my whole body shaking.

>>76737978
You cheat by smaller ROM, you don't lower your body enough.

>>76727624 (OP)
how come you can do many reps of dips at your bodyweight, but cannot do as many reps of bench of the equivalent weight? Isn't it using the same muscles?

>>76739374
bro thats like saying you should be able to row your deadlift

>>76727624 (OP)
>there's NOTHING you can do to stop me

>>76739374
Dips are like very decline bench, not horizontal bench. You are also using your lats a lot in dips, but not in horizontal bench. Also dips do not lift 100% body weight, more like 95%.

>>76727624 (OP)
Bro I fucking love dips so much lmao

>>76740298
No it's not. DYEL?

>>76741136
When doing dips, you don't lift your forearms = 95% bodyweight.
When doing bench press = you also lift forearms = 105% bodyweight.