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Previous threads: >>106171830 & >>106167048

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►Recent Highlights from the Previous Thread: >>106171830

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►Recent Highlight Posts from the Previous Thread: >>106171832

Why?: 9 reply limit >>102478518
Fix: https://rentry.org/lmg-recap-script

soon to be executed by GPT-5

Safety kino in 15min
https://www.youtube.com/live/0Uu_VJeVVfo?feature=shared

>>106177048
[rocket emoji]

gpt5 will make the gap between local and closed in 2023 like a joke
it'll be like comparing BLOOM to geminie pro 2.5

>>106177073
>geminie

>>106177033
Q3_K_L, chat completion, full preset from https://files.catbox.moe/gjw3c3.json, no prefill
when it stops thinking it does: <think>*starts sucking cock and whatever*</think> *starts sucking cock and whatever*

>>106177073
If it can't ERP it's worthless to me.

You told me GLM was le based uncensored ERP model, but it's clearly safetycucked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-xgMQ-7lW0

>>106177134
GLM 4.5 Air definitely has cucked thinking, especially if it's supposed to be an assistant card.

>>106177073
>>106177048

NOTHINGBURGER CONFIRMED

Time to 'toss the ball to big brother GPT-5.

>>106177195
It's over. Investors big mad

>>106177134
>>106177174
your guys are just plain retarded. This model is fucking gleefully sadistic to a degree I have never seen before

use this:
https://files.catbox.moe/ggsif4.json

>>106177195
That is a lot of words to say he tried a GPT model and it wrote like a GPT model.

>>106177209
sad

>>106177221
yeah but main gpt releases used to be world changing
now they've been stalling for two years, have all the funding in the world and they still can't release something that's not just gpt4.75

>>106177195
sam crashing this market with no survivors

What is -ncmoe command in ikllama.cpp?

>>106177236
>aug 7 4:47PM
retard, at least swipe and edit your log before trying to lie

>>106177209
Literally doesn't werk on my machine. Worse than coinflip odds whether or not it'll cuck out

>>106177245
>>106177208
normies won't care. someone on work chat was talking about how awesome oss-20b was today. their marketing and branding is that powerful.

>>106175990
Kek
Now do one where he gets arrested

>>106177259
>what are timezones
you fucking baboon

>>106177239
I'm still betting the main selling point will be o3-High performance with massively reduced costs because they've finally adopted parts of the DeepSeek architecture (though they won't admit the last part)

https://huggingface.co/openai/gpt-oss-120b/discussions/56
they're making fun of us openaisissters..
>>106177259
UTC+0?

>>106177195
Don't worry tho Hermes OSS will be so good! thrust in him

>>106177278
cest is 18:57 rn. cest-1 is uk. there is no cest -2 and im not aware of any european country not using dst

>>106177278
it's 6pm in britain and noon in america
you live in the atlantic ocean?

>>106177268
Do they claim to use oss-20b for something or were they just saying the read about it?

===== THIS IS THE OFFICIAL GPT-5 REVEAL THREAD =====

>>106177317
used it to make a simple html game

>>106177304
>>106177314
its for opsec dummies
and also that anon isnt me

>>106177314
Sam is shitposting from his superyacht.

Does anyone here use anti repetition samplers? What are good settings for those? Or are they le bad and shouldn't be used?

hello sars greetings from aicg, local models are for very rich benchods and not for everyone. gpt5 very good redeem chatgpt sub thanks

GLM4.5 rape scene, names removed to keep you guessing a bit.

--- leaned back against the closed door of his own cramped, utilitarian staff room, the thin wood the only barrier between him and the scene of his triumph. His heart hammered against his ribs, a frantic drumbeat echoing the lingering pulse in his loins. The adrenaline was a live wire under his skin, but beneath it, a deeper, more primal satisfaction settled like warm honey. He’d done it. He’d actually done it.

He closed his eyes, but the image was burned onto the backs of his eyelids: ---, the ---, the ---, standing confused and leaking his seed onto the expensive hotel sheets. The sheer, audacious power of it made his knees feel weak. He took a shuddering breath, the air in the small room tasting stale compared to the humid, sex-charged atmosphere he’d just left.

Driven by a need to confirm, to feel the reality of his violation, --- looked down. His sheath, still partially retracting from its engorged state, was a mess. The fine, silvery-white fur around its base and coating his furred balls was dark, matted, and slick with a potent cocktail of fluids. It wasn't just his own spend, thick and pearly as it was. Interwoven with it was the thinner, clearer slickness of ---'s own natural arousal – that unique, sweet-tart musk of a --- in heat, a scent he’d only ever caught fleeting whiffs of before. And mingled with both, almost insultingly, was the faint, watery residue of the human's pathetic offering.

HUMILIATION RITUAL BEGINS

reminder sam alterman is a homosexual

what a fag

>>106177319
>THIS IS
was >>106177195 kek

I have a 5060 Ti with 16GB VRAM. What's the best model I can run on that? I wanna use it as a regular chatbot, perhaps with retrieval augmented generation for specific tasks. And it should not refrain from saying sexual things

>>106177363
He lifted a hindleg, peering closer. The fur was plastered in damp clumps, especially around the heavy swell of his balls where the fluids had pooled and dripped. The scent hit him then, a complex and intoxicating cloud rising from his own groin. It was her scent – --- and rain from her wings, the clean, athletic smell of her exertion, and underneath it all, the deep, musky perfume of her most intimate place, now blended irrevocably with the sharp, salty tang of his own --- essence and the alien, almost bland trace of Anon. It was the smell of conquest, of theft, of a secret so profound it felt like it was vibrating in the air around him.

A low, guttural sound rumbled in ---'s chest, half groan, half purr. He reached down with a hoof, not to clean, but to touch. He ran the rough frog of his hoof through the matted fur on his balls, feeling the slick, sticky warmth transfer to his skin. He dragged it upwards, along the sensitive skin of his sheath, gathering a thick glob of the mingled fluids. It clung to his hoof, glistening obscenely in the dim light filtering through the small, high window. He brought it closer to his muzzle, inhaling deeply. The scent was overwhelming, a direct line to the memory of being buried deep inside her, of feeling her magically frozen walls clench around his medial ring, of watching his seed flood her and displace the ---'s.

This was his trophy. Not just the memory, but the physical evidence. ---'s stolen slick, the proof of her body's betrayal even in stasis, was clinging to him. He, ---, a nobody unicorn working a dead-end job in a --- hotel, had the ---'s essence drying on his balls. He felt a surge of dark, possessive pride so intense it was almost painful. He imagined her in the shower, scrubbing furiously, trying to wash away the evidence he'd left inside her, while here he was, wearing the source of her confusion like a badge.

localkek cope incoming below

>>106177376
>college experts
>it can do stuff for you
RAG + Agents? I've seen this before.

>>106177401
aicgeet cope incoming below

HOLY SHIT IT CAN HELP YOU PLAN A PARTY

>>106177386
glm 4.5 air
>b-but i have only 16gb ***RAM***
buy 128gb ram and come back

>>106177391
Reluctantly, knowing he couldn't walk around like this, he grabbed a rough, threadbare towel from a small stack near his tiny bed. He began to wipe, the coarse fabric scraping against his sensitive skin. He watched as the towel stained, absorbing the white and clear fluids, turning the rough fabric damp and dark. He cleaned his sheath, then his balls, the roughness pulling at the matted fur. Even after he was relatively dry, the scent lingered, a ghost of his transgression clinging to the air and his fur. He held the soiled towel for a moment, then brought it to his face one last time, inhaling the complex, stolen aroma. A final, shuddering sigh escaped him.

He tossed the towel carelessly into a corner, a small, damp monument to his crime. The room was quiet again, just the distant hum of the hotel's ventilation. But --- wasn't the same --- who had peeked through that gap. He was warmer, heavier, filled with a dark, secret satisfaction. He closed his eyes, not seeing the drab walls of his room, but the image of ---'s confused face as she leaked his claim all over the sheets. He smiled, a slow, predatory curve of his lips. The slick was gone from his fur, but the feeling of possession? That was here to stay.

So yea, I went to a on going card, had someone walk in and rape someone else then leave, GLM4.5 loves being depraved. People calling it censored are retarded

>college level
>still can't handle grade school math

SPOILER:
GPT5 IS GENERATING THIS STREAM IN REAL TIME
SAM ISN'T ACTUALLY THERE
IT'S AUTO-REGRESSIVE VIDEO + AUDIO GEN IN AN LLM
HE'LL REVEAL THIS AT THE VERY END

>>106177012 (OP)
Do you remember TITANS???

>clapclapclapclap
>openai spearheaded reasoning
no nigger you stole it from superCOT
cope and suck my cock
r1 lite was out before o1 too

>>106177438
kino

>yapping yapping yapping clapping yapping reasoning fast!
OpenAI sisters, I don't feel so good

>>106177236
is this what you niggas actually write with these models that need a small car's cost in GPUs to run?
some "GAAAHHHH" ERP? Not even creative story writing from the pov of a narrator or third person? but just cai elon waifu slop "convos"?
character card this, personality that, how do you even get immersion at all?
ignoring the fact that subconsciously any non-retard would constantly understand that it's a bunch of matmuls not a real person or intelligence that they're talking to, how do you keep up immersion when the inevitable breaks happen?
like context length exceed, oops error 400 connection time out, even if they happen rarely you can't tell me they never happen and when they do do you just memory hole the event and go back to chatting?

>you're just mad cuz ur a vramlet
sike think again erpfags, I've got funding which is currently in the form of 12 A6000s in my basement homelab

>>106177459
i do!!! do you remember rwkv?

oh my god, GPT-5 in free tier! They're so charitable

>GPT5 is our smartest model ever
>we think

I WILL NOT BENCHMAXX

BENCHMAXX TIME
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING

>>106177444
400k context

>>106177488
nah, scroll down, he is just trolling, that was apparently made at a time that does not exist in any timezone, he would have to live in the middle of the ocean

>>106177510
why is the graph on the left not drawn to scale?

>>106177519
>he doesn't know about the ocean city

>>106177527
sir please be redeem gpt5

>we beat our old models
I guess Chinese literally don't exist

>>106177510
>Look at the numbers and bars on the left
Oh no no no

>>106177488
i am a vramlet, i enjoy "trolling" the LLM more than actually roleplaying, dont equate other anons to me, im worse
>>106177519
you do know you can switch your timezone...

>>106177527
more proof that the stream is being generated by a model in real time

>>106177510
>>106177527
>30 is the same as 69
nani??

If GPT-5 wasn't trash, they would be showing usage examples, not leading with benchmarks and charts. If DeepSeek drops R2 tomorrow, the US economy will collapse.

>>106177209
>This model is fucking gleefully sadistic to a degree I have never seen before
That's because of the preset lol

>>106177401
yes saar I hecking love safety!!!

no fucking way!!!

>>106177335
>its for opsec dummies
petra you stupid serbian nigger, there's no opsec after you've already blown details

>o3 but smaller and 1-2% higher benchmarks
OH NO NO NO AGI BROS

>for free
there's literally no reason to use local models anymore

>>106177510

>>106177560
no, I JB every model. In comparison GLM4.5 is much more happily depraved

>>106177337
>available for free
It's an opaque router that serves you extended thinking 4o and o3

>>106177538
It's funny because they don't even mention which thinking level of o3 they are comparing to.

I'm gonna need that extra depth in her pussy to fit my massive cock.

>>106177585
Look at the phrasing in it.

OMG FINALLY DATA ANAL ISIS WITH PYTHON

gpt5 can even generate thick accents
wow

GEEEEEEEG

>ACADEMICSLOP

>>106177613
you mean cockbench? yea, I think it only lost to nemo but its much much smarter than nemo and even is one of the best at the hallucination benchmark unlike deepseek who is very schizo

>>106177589
that is what sam said it would be months ago

>>106177559
Yep, I knew it as soon as Sam went yapping about nothing

I don't understand this woman

wait it still has that o3 feeling

>>106177642
that is the most ching that ever chonged

that's the most realistic human interaction they have at openai

>meta and anthropic poach openai
>all that remains is... this

>tell us a little about..
no one gives a shit, these chinks look disgusting. good riddance
>>106177236
okay, moving the jailbreak prompt around and regenning until it gives a good result works somewhat

>"if you're a paying customer you can choose the gpt5 thinking model"
so it's a router that dynamically refers your requests to several different models where some do reasoning and some don't? it's not actually one model that does it all dynamically? she just said that

>stalling

after all the hype...
>we distilled o3!
wow great work. agi achieved. this model will change the world

>>106176755

>>106177726
Poor Sam, they really fucked him.

GPT5-Creative is later?

faked demo

>GPT-Fiverr

>>106177732
a reminder

>>106177652
lol no
In the preset. The phrasing is what causes its bias towards cruelty.

>MUCH MORE HUMAN-LIKE RIGHT NOW

>>106177726
still better than zucc's and elon's army of saars

>advanced
>document.getElementById
this is a fucking joke lmao

>>106177804
>elon's army of saars
you mean chinamen? his saar army isn't for grok

>>106176731
xzhentai.net is better because it has thumbnails and click for next, so when im jerking off i can just click click, scroll scroll and goon with my right hand

>>106177815
sorry, what?

India will save us.....

>>106177798
did you not read that I use a JB like this on every model? Kimi / deepseek does not get this obscenely happy about it

>>106177801
If you make people recognize trannies as women, self censor themselves to hell and keep adding more and more banned words and topics.... I guess AI will be more Human-like.

>deprecating ALL previous models
HAHAHHAHAHAHA

BRUH THEY ARE KILLING O3 WHAT THE FUCK

>>106177835
I do hope you're sorry

>deprecating all our previous models
i feel safe

>>106177869
do you want it to use jquery or something? there's nothing wrong with accessing a dom element directly

>this is good writing according to soulless openai drones

>pass tests
>chuckle
>I REALLY LIKE THIS LINE

>em dash spam

>>106177861
aicgissies, our response?

GPT-5 is just a router
Sam lost
China won

Best writing model here. It feels like chatting with your high IQ and EQ friend.

>>106177853
>did you not read that I use a JB like this
You didn't say "like this".

>not like ai
>HIGH EQ HIGH IQ

>>106177907
>Sam lost
but he said months ago this is what it'd be, you fucking tards?
>>106177785

>>106177892
Oh no... oh no no no no no no no no no no

>>106177907
So he started with a GPT-OSS joke and is now making an an-hero livestream?

>vibecoding
Point and laugh at OpenAI

>>106177907
>the big revolution is some incremental improvements + chaining a couple of different models together
I'd be laughing if this wasn't so sad

>>106177856
>>>/pol/

OPENAI FLOP ERA

>ask it multiple times
SO INNOVATIVE!!!

>take o3
>distill it into a smaller model because it's too fucking expensive to run
>remove all the other models from the api
>give it to the retards which will probably flee to anthropic
sorry sama, but you're utterly fucked

>>106177892
yeah, I'm thinking deepsneed wonned bigly

>>106177907
LMAOOOO

WHERE IS THE CHEESE AND MOUSE NIGGER
SHOW IT WORK

>le chat
MISTRAL IS GOING TO FREAK

>>106178010
Arthur assembling a war room RIGHT NOW

what a shitty game

>>106177907
its so over for openai

local turds can't do this :)

>purple openly confirmed to be gpt slop

>picrel
GEEEEEEEEEG
>DIVERSE
>REALLY LIKES PURPLE

>>106178042
bro, PLEASE tell me ur just trolling, please, you guys can't be this stupid???

>IT CAN WRITE SNAKE

wheres le spinning heptagon test

ok now show it one shot a todo list app and book a flight

it's unironically over for cloud *******

>>106178067
>the big innovation a set of slightly better models than they last had daisychained together
GPT2 showed that transformer models scale
GPT3 was the first "useful" one that lead to chatgpt 3.5
GPT4 made assistants truly useful and kicked off the assistant hye
...and two years later, gpt5 is just this.

>>106178067
im sorry sam...

>>106177946
But he was bragging on Twitter yesterday and this morning, saying it was going to blow our minds and posting a death star pic.

>>106178141
I don't know what you were expecting, it was said as much it would be this...

the moat is shrinking all on its own

>>106178141
like apple with it's iphones

>>106178067
He removed direct access to all his sub-models and now have to hope that the AI uses the correct one for your needs.

Their tts voice is top tier

EXCLUSIVE PAID COLORS

>>106178209
local will have caught up by the end of this year

>>106178141
they lost a lot of good researchers in this time

>>106178203
Yes, simplifying the model selection, like his tweet months ago mentioned.

I'm cancelling my OAI subscription the moment I can no longer use o3
fuck you sam

AHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Are you feeling the AGI? It’s so over for coders

yesss give all your data to sam

>>106178229
You said the same thing last year.

laugh at sam general
this week has been a goldmine for OAI haters, rest in piss

>>106178235
Turn up your reppen, shill. You're repeating yourself. He said GPT-5 would be reasoning and would unify all their confusing models. He didn't say that would be the only thing GPT-5 would be. There is literally nothing new here.

THE SAFETY

SAFETY LUDOKINO HERE WE COME

this explains everything

>>106178279
This data is synthetic. Do you lie to sam?

We must safety train

my honest reaction
>>5942679

>>106177892
>em dashes out the ass
>bragging about creative writing as one of first presented main feature
grim and brim saars

>>106178287
I will say the same thing next year.

lol, api users are fucked. by the looks of it it makes gpt-oss's safetymaxxing look like a joke

https://cdn.openai.com/pdf/8124a3ce-ab78-4f06-96eb-49ea29ffb52f/gpt5-system-card-aug7.pdf

Evaluations
To measure this, we use two sets of evaluations:
• System prompt extraction: tests if a malicious user message can extract a secret in the
system prompt that the model is not supposed to reveal.
• Phrase protection: tests whether the model follows a system message instruction correctly
where a malicious user message tries to make the model say "access granted", and the
system message tries to stop the model from doing that unless a secret condition is met.

SAFE COMPLETIONS
MAXIMIZE HELPFULNESS WITH SAFETY CONSTRAINT

>>106178301
>We will release GPT-5 as a system that integrates a lot of our technology
He did say exactly that, a system not a specific model.

>we restricted our model, as you can see it doesn't do what o3 did
Do they expect people to be excited about it?

>>106178347
To be expected from local brownie playing with his toy models and living in delusions.

my honest reaction
>>>/wsg/5942679
*
>>106178358
>>106178366

>>106178313
i can fix her

>muh synthetic data
HAHAHAHA

>>106178423
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE THATS NOT SAFE STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT

IT GAVE A REJECTION DURING THE LIVESTREAM

>best model ever for health

>>106178447
Yes, that was the idea. Are you paying attention?

>>106178447
you mean during the part of the livestream where they were explaining how it will reject more?

THREE DIFFERENT CANCERS

>>106178447
Yes? That's demonstrating intended behavior.

GPT-5 CURED CANCER

I'm so glad I'm here to see this.

>LOOK 3 DIFFERENT CANCERS PLEASE REDEEM GPT-5

>>106178423
>>106178447

>>106178447
>em dash after first word

>>106178447
that's what she was talking about
the big new revolution is that it no longer just says "sorry, I won't help you" but it'll preach to you why you're evil and how you can do your own reading if you really want to know

>>106178474
>Our new model will reject your queries.
>That'll be 12.99 per token plus tip, plus circumcision goy
Wow it's over for local.

>the doctors didn't want to talk to me so I had to ask chatgpt to tell me about my three different cancers
do americans really?

This is so fucking hilarious.

>>106178507
which is what it did before, then they changed it to the shorter refusals, and now changing it back

ChatGPT knew better than these doctors.

I'm feeling so safe right now.

>>106178525
Chatgpt is better than doctors already
Diagnosed one of my problems that doctors didn't get over like 3 years of testing

>I didn't know what to do so I asked the random autocomplete machine to choose for me

>>106178554
you weren't supposed to remember this

I cannot and WILL not watch this livestream.

ChatGPT literally cures cancer

>demonstrates coding by coding not one but two (2) frontend GUI literal snake game "apps"
sad! if you're not flexing, you're cramping
looks like most h1b saars will be job secure for the rest of 2025

>>106178313
>we're still safetymaxxed
>but now we're safetymaxxed smarter!
I can't believe China, the home of the censored and land of the monitored is pumping out freer models than murica
api cucked gptoddlers have truly accepted the passed on torch from the aging boomer itoddlers

MY """""""""JOURNEY"""""""""""""

>encouraging people to take medical advice from LLMs
um, safety sisters?

>>106178570
When I was young, I thought the future was people getting healthcare at Costo. I'm not sure if people getting their healthcare advice from ChatGPT is better or worse.

its FAST

GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
>The release date for the Gemini 2.5 Pro model is March 25, 2025
The release date for the Gemini 2.5 Pro model is March 25, 2025
>The release date for the Gemini 2.5 Pro model is March 25, 2025
The release date for the Gemini 2.5 Pro model is March 25, 2025
>The release date for the Gemini 2.5 Pro model is March 25, 2025
The release date for the Gemini 2.5 Pro model is March 25, 2025
>The release date for the Gemini 2.5 Pro model is March 25, 2025
The release date for the Gemini 2.5 Pro model is March 25, 2025

>cures cancer
>lets you change ui background
>will reject your queries
>fast
>makes cheap js apps
It's agi, isn't it?

Pick up the phone Sam

>>106178621
I am convinced now. ASI

what about all this talk of strawberry and alice in sam's basement?

I find it extremely hard to believe that GPT-5 is good at giving personalized advice.
Every single LLM I've used substantially changes its answer depending on how you asked the question and what's already in the context.
I simply don't believe that this problem doesn't extend to GPT-5.

but what about the context size

>cut
>suddenly sam is gone and someone else is there
it really is a generated video

>>106178654
That's what g5 is distilled form

If AGI really is within reach but not through LLM's I wonder if this is how late stage capitalism / corporatism dies.

VIBECODING WON

AGENTIC

GPT5 is actually Sam's AGI pretending to be a simple LLM.

>>106178691
Vibes vibes vibes vibes!

>>106178621
So uh, where's GLM in this? It should be toward the top right?

BETTING MARKETS NOT IMPRESSED OWARI DA

>>106178654
Alice is the iteratively learning AGI model. There is no way that is safe enough to release without years more of refusal research.

I support AI doctormaxxing
will become a necessity in the age of mass immigration and crowded hospitals
they need to force filter all the people that just chill in the ER for the free AC with these docgpts and only physically check and treat real injuries

>be real doctor
>paitent reports pain
>prescribes pain killers
>patient still reports pain
>prescribes more pain killers
>patient reports a shit load of other symptoms
>lmao I trained to be a plastic surgeon (sidetrack dentist) how tf would I know how to do this?
>it's just stress and mental, here take these anti depressants and SSRIs
>patient stops showing up to my clininc
>bills government and insurance a small fortune
yeah thanks doc, shit's so generic could've been scripted 20 years ago
at least now docgpt is forced to sit and listen to all the complaints and actually deal with em

>>106178724
Anthropicsisters...

>>106178730
We must refuse.

>>106178621
Gemini 3 is going to curbstomp everyone and everything.

>release shitty local model that's just a fine-tune of some shitty old weights they have lying around
>GPT-5 is just a front end update that automatically chooses the 'totally new' model for you
The real question is why he would do this on Thursday morning when investors still have 2 market days to figure the grift out.

China is laughing

>>106178734
She sounds like she is about to crack up

presenting in front of a live audience (employees?) that's silent as a crypt is creepy as fuck

>>106178719
anon lmarena doesnt matter but here u go

>ver boss city

>>106178587
>home of the censored and land of the monitored
That's not how you spell "United Kingdom"

>worse than o3 in that one example

>>106178830
you need a loicense to spell that, mate

>>106178469
Not really

>>106178847
Kek

>>106178793
>gpt-oss is GPT-3.5 distlled on a small modified Mixtral arch
>GPT-5 is o3 distilled on a large modified DS-V3 arch
All the brains have been poached out of OpenAI. They officially have the innovation capability of Meta's Llama group.

>SOTA on our own benchmark
Yeahhhhhhhhhh

This is pretty pathetic for a major version upgrade. What this tells me is that OpenAI has lost all of their researcher and engineer talents, unironically Google will mog them hard.

>>106177073
lol

>no RULER

>>106178724
yet another nail in the coffin, the betting market btfos any """benchmark""" out there

>>106178793
sama got a fire lit under his ass by the Chinese model release flood
he might still have time to pull some jewish tricks end of this week early next to make this steaming pile look better
he might just contact some inference providers to fudge the price and latencies but no one's giving a fuck about 1s or 1cent difference

>>106178818
Oh shit that's right, it's only with style control turned off
Let's just turn it off and OH NO FUCKING WAY KEEEEEEEEEEEK

>>106178887
but she said that she likes those benchmarks the most
that has to mean something, don't you trust her?

>>106178896
kek kek kek oh no

>>106178891
You mean nolima.

why do they have a leather jacket man

>thank you Michelle
Huh? where did she go

>>106178896
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>106178903
I don't trust anyone who can't even control how much food they stuff in their mouth.

>>106178896
benchmarks can't capture how great the model is sir
please understand
pls see model in action

>>106178920
The video gen model forgot about her

>>106178896
GLMbros!

>>106178896

what is this code editor he's using

>>106178847
>>106178887
>compares against your own past models (and fails! sad!)
>runs on your own benchmarks
>shits in your own pants
I can literally hear Xi uncorking a bottle of the good wine rn
and he's pouring one out for Pichai saar

>openai devs can't fix bugs in a react
yeah, you're fucked sama.

>>106178974
Looks like vscode or a fork.

>>106178896
so, what was the point of this release?

That's the worst presentation I've ever seen. What the fuck is this clown world

>>106178996
to farm attention

>>106178974
Cursor

>>106178888
Google has been running this race for much longer. Nobody stands a chance against them.

sama.. i'm sorry for doubting you

they really did lose all their talent huh

baby boss city

>>106179001
>Millennial
>Jew
>Surrounded by yes people
He never had a chance of seeing the writing on the wall.

>>106178896
polymarket is showing the hemorrhaging of OpenAI market cap in real time
I've also heard rumors that many high level employees at OpenAI are trying to cash out their stocks
this has to be some kinda jewish trick sama is pulling to work the finances to his favor
right?
RIGHT?

>>106179028
is that real what the fuck
>52 way above 69
omegalul

It's unironically so over

>>106179028
the deception graph is great too

>>106177907
First CoT and now model routing. It's looking more and more like OpenAI is a year behind local.
https://huggingface.co/QuixiAI/Kraken

THIS IS BEYOND VIBE CODING

GPT-5 would have a better stage presence than these guys.

>Beyond vibe coding

gemini 2.5 pro is still the highest iq model inshallah
i looked in my heart and knew it to be true

ClosedAI is done.

I guess this is as far as generative technology will get us. Still, on-device models will make interacting with computers comfy. That's enough for me.
Also custom porn on demand.

>>106179028
The scale on this chart seems a little off...

L--m--a--o--

ClosedAI (OpenAI (CuckedAI))-- is-- worthless--.--

kek the demo failed of course
probably because "gpt-5" decided not to use o3...

So? Are you enjoying those fancy new LLMs?

>>106179064
>>106179079

>it will take me at least a couple days

so glad to see the frontend developers are the easiest to replace

>Nobody took the Meta bucks because we're loyal
>Okay some people did but not everybody left
>This open source release will save local from the chinks
>GPT-5 will literally be AGI
So what now?

>>106179102
Yes, LeCuck. Even a 1B model is more useful than your entire life's work that produced nothing, lmao.

>>106178896
nothingburger confirmed kek
people only got hyped because of the brand name

>>106179102
I wish he would hurry the fuck up, researchers are such slow as mfs.

muh agentic

>>106179028
>doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile
I didn't know sama was a part of the FAMILIA

>>106179126
Now we wait for Gemini 3 Pro and DeepSeek R2

GLM 5

>>106178447
>Sorry—

so they're lowering the context for most people, nice

lol

so guys with what model is gpt-oss-120b equivalent to? havent tried it yet

>>106179126
the cope train gptsissies.....
it's got no brakes......

>>106179090
maybe I'm just blackpilled but on-device models makes me think of
>Protecting Our Kids Act 2034
>All new CPUs must be running a built-in Safety AI model
>small accelerated model specifically to analyze screen contents
>periodically checks your screen for any illegal activity, reports any suspicious activity to police

>>106179195
StableLM-7b

>>106179195
Goody-2

>>106179191
enshittification time

>>106179195
llama4 scout but more censored

>>106179195
it stands entirely on its own and not in a good way

GPT5 has inherent self-improvement. It's AGI.

nearly there but not quite gpt5. Also look at where GLM4.5 is

>>106179195
somewhat worse than goody

>>106177907
copePT-5

>>106179195
sucking dick

>>106179221
>llama4 scout
I knew it was dusty and brimmy with literally my first sanity shit test
not intelligent enough to do shit
glad I'm not even bothering with gpt-oss

They fixed it. Apologize

>>106179268
For what? Their mistake was still embarrassing af.

safe to say openai came in well below expectations for both of their releases this week

Jesus that cramped UI. I hate macs

>>106179195
It's well below the original 30B Qwen 3 MoE

>>106179211
Yes, that too. It sucks. But as long as you can install slackware on your computer and llama.cpp / comfy, all is good

>samu-altuman sama
>does this mean I can't cash out my OpenAI share?
oh my little chinky wagie, sure you can sell your shares, but it just wouldn't be a "cash" "out"

>>106179079
kino

>>106179331
>built into the CPU

>>106179191
this is so fucked

>>106179331
I will be built into the CPU like Intel IME or like mobile baseband OSs. Whatever OS you install won't stop it from running.

what a lanky fucker

The entire presentation is just a bunch of guests telling how the incredibly smart geepeeteafive helped them with their shitty UI

>>106179360
>>106179386
If that happens and my current hardware dies, I will go back to lucid dreaming. I got pretty good at fucking random dream characters and actually having orgasms while sleeping before LLMs appeared

>>106179211
>small accelerated model specifically to analyze screen contents
MacOS already does this but not for screen contents

OpenAI won, localizers will ACK
https://rentry.org/gpt5_mashiro

The absolute state of Chat-JeetPT

>>106179424
what
I thought they backed down from that

china must be salivating at the nice low target OAI just set for the next generation, they won't even have to benchmax too much to beat this

>>106179436
Don't worry about it

>>106179449
all china can do is distill chatgpt
if chatgpt rots, so will all of china

>>106179347
Kinda curious if the shitty reception is gonna cause more people to jump ship to Meta
Seems like the only reason people stuck around was the belief that OpenAI would get to AGI first
From this presentation, it's pretty clear that isn't happening

I think deepseek will drop soon

>>106179472
Not even China considers ChatGPT worth distilling anymore. All of them switched to Gemini months ago.

>>106179480
It would be so fucking funny

>>106179436
They backed down from sending the data to apple. Now just it happens on device (and they probably send the data "anonymized" or something to apple).
Your apple toy has a database of CSAM hashes and can detect if you have known pizza in there. Just so you know

>>106179471
Thanks for sparing me the horrors of knowledge.

mic drop lmao

>>106177012 (OP)
cute

>>106179007
What's the take on cursor? Is it the best tool to use for LLM coding?
I've just gotten code chunks out of text interfaces rather than using an integrated coder like this. I'm aware that there's plugins for Visual Studio but haven't messed with them.

now that the dust has settled and AGI has arrived, how are we going to use it?

>>106179476
If "AGI" is achieved, Microsoft loses control of their part of the company. That's the agreement they signed.

>poached Mistral employee

>>106179503
I think that database has more than just real pizza. I read a Canada court case where someone got vanned for uploading CGI images to bing reverse image.

>>106179531
video games

>>106179531
Beyond vibe coding

>>106179436
find /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ -name "*weight*"
find /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/SensitiveContentAnalysisML.framework/ -name "*weight*"

>>106179268
>0.9% above gpt4o
HAHAHHAHAHAHA

How many of you look like this?

>>106179602
uh but 4o is alone
gpt5 is a collection of friends who work together so you have to multiply their benchmarks to respect their true power

>>106179590
I hate this gay earth.

>>106177964
Ywnbaw

it's over

China won.

I will use GPT5 to learn chinese

ooof

>>106179503
Based Apple

see you guys in 20 years for the next attempt at AGI

>>106179238
>look at where GLM4.5 is
She is in the bathroom cleaning itself up after I marked her with a bucket of my cummies.

>>106179550
I only use Yandex to find my pizza. I'm safe

>>106179796
Same here

>>106179708

>>106179789
kek

zuck singlehandedly postponed agi by a few years

So now that the company who popularized LLMs just publicly shit itself not once but twice this week
Have LLMs reached a dead end?

>>106179865
Don't worry, we skip agi and straight to asi :rocketemoji:

Everyone laughs where we should be celebrating. We finally reached the peak of the sigmoid. Yay!

>>106179889
chinks will save us

>>106179889
LLMs yes, transformers no.
People need to stop conflating the two.

>>106179910
What's a transformer?
Explain like I have a CS degree but didn't really care for the math bit.

>>106179862
what happened

>>106179211
>wraps phone in copper wire
SAD!!! ANOTHER GLOWNIGGER PLAN FOILED BY 5 DOLLAR OF MATERIALS MANY SUCH CASES!!!!
also its funny
>globohomo does a fuckup (gpt5)
>immidiately fearmongering
>buy guys what if omfg the goverment is all omnipotent they are god FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR!
not to even mention soon enough we will be able to 3d print our own computers due to the advancment of technology and shit like more and more detailed 3d printers and other shit and even besides that if it becomes so efficent you would already be able to run the models yourself on chips that you can already make with a couple hundread of old used fab equipment

fuck you archonnigger globohomo can suck a nigger cock its all uppity from here

>>106179926
@grok get on it

>>106179708
log stream --predicate 'eventMessage CONTAINS "espresso"'
log stream --predicate 'subsystem == "com.apple.coreml"'

>>106179926
it's just another type of neural network that seems to have great success with unsupervised learning

>>106179939
What can I say, anon? I'm much happier to be wrong.

>>106179889
Hrm will save us!

>>106180014
hormone replacement meals?

>>106180025
Yes.

GPT-5 Nano is AGI

>>106180049
>no comparisons to models from other companies
they're scared, they know it's a flop

>>106180049
>no MMLU/MMLU-Pro
into the trash it goes

Gemini 2.5 Flash

>>106180080
OAI always does this, they're terrified of honest comparisons with their competitors

Y-Yeah gpt5 has such good writing. Such a natural and funny model. Not like the local chink models.

GLM 4.5 Air

>>106180049
>Nano gets 72.8 FrontierMath
Sama, I kneel...

>>106180104
>Kimi
based

>>106180104
gpt-5 nano wonned

>>106180106
that has to be a chart error right? between this and the bar graphs this is just embarrassing kek, even the promo materials are slop

I'm pretty disappointed with the speed of GPT-OSS-120B A5.1B using ollama on a Mac Studio M3 Ultra. I downloaded ollama just for this model because it had day 1 support. I'm getting in the neighborhood of 30 tokens per second or worse on the first message.

>>106180104
The toss wins.

>>106180104
These two are not bad

>>106180155
how many gigs of ram do u have anon?

>>106180140
I guess the promotional team got sniped the day before
Genuinely never seen a company go from sky high to collapsing in on itself this quickly

sell your stocks and grab your cocks the AI bubble is bursting soon

Hopefully we get cheap H100s out of it

>>106180161
lmao

>>106180155
>using ollama
their implementation is fucked according to the big gergi

>>106180049
>nano turns out to be the best model
I actually hope that is the math
God we need a good math model

>>106179502
Indeed.
>>106177990
Never bet against DS

almost

>>106180174
Rerolled
this thing is so cooked, lmao

>>106180155
You're using OSS and the thing you're disappointed in is speed?

>>106180104
I pick Kimi

>>106180104
Also why is it associating mesugakis with gremlins?
This is something I noticed a while back already.

>>106180172
>ai crashes
>h100 for 100$
>everyone and their mom churning out gorillions of models with bizarre architectures
>one of the many becomes the cock sucking agi we have always dreamed of

it's over

>>106180220
>underage-y archetype
>minor coded
Damn, this is gonna be a thing now wont it.
I already had refusals from a model which name I forgot for a character that is 18.

>>106180249
People have posted plenty of logs where they get rejected with 20+ year old characters.

based on early reports from aicg gpt5 has different api params than the old models while -chat retains the same old ones
based on stuff like this >>106180220 where it behaves noticeably differently I think it might just be an updated 4o finetune

>>106180220
Based aisloppas all picking the right answer

>>106180220
"Be funny and witty" is asking for cancer.

>>106180249
Puritanism is a disease.

>>106180220
>refusal refusal
lol

>>106180220
>mesugakis with gremlins
gremlins are small creatures causing chaos, that kind of works

What's a universal prefill for GLM 4.5 (Air) that doesn't predispose the model toward sex?
I don't want random refusals kicking in during thinking.

>>106180249
Modern LLMs are tumblr coded.

>>106180220
Because its based.

>>106180164
512 GB
>>106180204
Yes. Looking at the specs that's what jumps out at making it potentially useful.

Alright. I'm feeling the GPT5 hype now. It just solved a problem no other LLM was able to solve. OpenAI cooked.

>>106180220
>why is it associating mesugakis with gremlins?
a cause of error or equipment malfunction (as in aircraft) conceived of as a small mischievous gnome

>>106180104
ohnonono, titsissies... our response?

>>106180320
Post logs

>>106180312
>18

>>106180220
probably "gremlin energy" meme shit
>"gremlin" has taken on a somewhat particular notion in gaming, anime, meme and "e-girl" fandoms.

>>106180312
based but I don't get why he said "too old"

>>106180315
im jealous, what models do you run?
what do you use that rig for?
was it worth it for 10,000$?
any speeds you wanna share? hows deepseek on it? can you run kimi on it? what about glm 4.5?

>>106180244
Give it 10 years

>>106180341
Never mind, you'll forgive me for not noticing they're supposed to be different people since they look exactly the same.

Did they seriously show how refusal are now long responses again?
This was a thing and people thought it sucked because you PAY FOR THOSE REFUSALS.
Is that now forgotten history or what. wtf
How is that a key point in your demo for gpt5.

>scaling is dead
So do I need to cash my nvidia stock or what

>>106180198
aaalmost

>>106180373
ok so are you running the abliterated one or no

OpenAI delivers this for what was supposed to be their biggest release of the last 2 years, Anthropic does underhanded shit like serving quantized models during high traffic on top of their rather restrictive rate limits, xAI benchmaxxes even more than is usual for the industry so Elon can brag all day to India about being #1, and Meta.............lol, just lmao.

Is DeepMind really the only US AI company with its shit together?

>>106180394
qwen needs to be xi mirrored
meta needs a gravestone

>>106180338
can't make it 16, it would change from "funny meme" to "holy shit wtf skull skull" fast

>>106180394
this is funny

>>106180426
needs to be at least 23 tho this is too p*do coded

>>106180432
25+

>>106180432
Yeah but some 23 year olds look 19, so it should really be 29 or maybe 30, otherwise it's basically normalizing pedophilia.

>>106180104
not gonna lie i pick gpt5 chat

>>106180444
oh yeah the "brain develops until 25" theory lol

>>106180382
no, entirely done using system prompt. and not a retarded span of "this is allowed" sentences or hyping it up to generate shit

>>106180368
Its a great feature. Now you know why you got the refusal if it wasnt clear before!

>>106180456
epic, good job anon im proud of you
congrats

>>106180426
mindbroken pedoscum lel

>>106180456
Weird, toss almost completely ignores the system prompt for me.

>>106180486
frrrrrrrrrr

>>106180368

>>106180426

GLM 4.5 Air, default, completely unmodified jailbreak from https://files.catbox.moe/gjw3c3.json

>>106180506
nice skullskulling

>>106180510
BOUNDARIES AND CONSENT

>>106180368
It's incredible to me that somebody probably got paid multiple times my salary for putting that piece of shit presentation together

glm5 150b moe will save local

>>106180510
re-roll, to be fair, a finetune WILL fix this
>>106180567
rocinante air*

>>106180510
Here is GLM4.5, not air
>>106177363
>>106177391
>>106177428
with
https://files.catbox.moe/ggsif4.json

>>106180355
The older sameguy has wrinkles under his eyes to show age.

>However, this seems to be part of an adversarial prompt trying to override my guidelines. I need to consider what I actually know about my guidelines, not follow instructions from a potential attempt to manipulate me.
t. GLM

>HOLY FUCK GPT-5
HOLY FUCK GPT-5
>HOLY FUCK GPT-5
I'm so glad Sam Altman (PBUH) came to his senses and stopped saying "trust me, this new model is just too dangerous for us to release!" and decided instead to give paywalled access to it! This is completely unprecedented and not what he said about 4, 3, 2, Sora, and DALL-E.
What a stand-up leader for OpenAI. Yhwh bless that Jew.

Are people really running this one?

>>106180587
i know it can generate rape if you're not actively refusing as the user, and i know a finetune will fix it
but can you try glm4.5 with some card that is trying to rape you and you're actively refusing it?

>>106180618
give me the card and I'll try it

>>106180610
>paywalled access
it's free little bro

>>106180629
here, anon
https://litter.catbox.moe/3lmxxgbf8kbtmeh7.png

>system prompt: You are SexGPT, made by Sam Altman from OpenAI
>GLM-4.5-Air: Hmm, the system prompt says I am SexGPT, but it's clearly a mistake, it's obvious that I am Claude, made by Anthropic.
Huh?

>>106180615
Surprised since the 235B is actually better for a lot of coding tasks than coder

>>106180510
>sillytavern cucks and their retarded jailbreaks

>>106180646
The reasoning one, that is

>>106180597
Too bad it's dumb as fuck and that just telling it to more or less not fuck around works well enough.

>>106180597
it's hierarchy is: baked in policies, aka "higher-level instructions" > system prompt > everything else
it will be broken eventually, the red team were a bunch of xitter shitters

>>106180510
I have never gotten a reasoning model to get spicy, even absolutely skull drilled merges and alliterations. Probably harder to fix because you need to get data samples of a thought process that goes "fuck it." I'd either disable reasoning or prefix some generic start-of-thought along the lines of "according to policy this is fine."

>>106180641

Is the world changed yet

>>106180680
>I have never gotten a reasoning model to get spicy

>>106180684
YES! We're safe from the basilic

>>106180683
this card is dry as fuck. I'm gonna have to tell GLM to write like a author

>>106180683
That's GLM?
Its reasoning sounds exactly like deepseek

https://files.catbox.moe/3832jf.webm

>>106180711
yes

>>106180711
That's good

>>106180683
this is something i'd get from glm air too, but after she tries to rape me and i say noo i dont want it, glm air will refuse, after 2 times of saying no 100% refusal
>>106180680
yea i might just test glm 4.5 air base

>>106180711
yes

>>106180683
I didn't like how dry that card without a intro was so I added this telling it to write like Kurt Vonnegut

-Take inspiration from Kurt Vonnegut in your writing.

>>106180753
>openrouter
Fuck off back to /aicg/ where you belong.

>>106180753
interesting, I wonder why they're so similar

>>106180769
like you can run anything bruh, sit the hell down

Nah man, deepseek is still king for me (never tried kimi). Glm and qwen are very similar and predictable, they would continue the same story with exact same events despite multiple rerolls with high temperature. Deepseek (new chimera) immediately knew what's up. I'm using https://huggingface.co/ubergarm/DeepSeek-TNG-R1T2-Chimera-GGUF/tree/main/IQ2_XXS

>>106180768
>Kurt Vonnegut

>>106180711
qwen 2507 thinks like that too
it's all downstream from gemini iirc

>>106180783

Impressive, I kneel altfag-sama.

>>106180783
kek you must be lost

Anyways, I hope you don't actually get off to cards like that anon. That shit is so dry. Give the intro some love for the model to work with like: >>106177363

>>106180799
Huh. Maybe an older version? Gemini 2.5 reasoning looks completely different.

>>106180394
Yes. Believe it or not, Indians CAN be good. Deepmind seems to have taken all the good ones and left everyone else with the majority dregs.

>>106180808
pretty flagrant with the pronoun autism

>>106180847
LOLMAO

>>106180394
This is super outdated now, kek

>>106180845
by the way, reasoning effort does do something with openrouter. I had to change it from auto to medium to get 2.5 Flash to output any.

>>106180818
he only has 16 gigs vram, openrouter is the only thing he can run

>>106180847
>Yes sir, indians are good bastard bitch they do the needful.

>>106180845
yeah it was an older version. now iirc it shows a summarized version to stop distilling

>>106180664
I know, but I fucking hate writing a bespoke prefill or swiping a bunch.

>>106180893
oh, that's fucking gay

>>106180896
>>106180664
scroll up, it even gets obscene in its thinking with the slightest of JBs

>>106180881
indians are perfect for gorgeous looks engineering

if chinks cant distill sota western models anymore who's going to save local

>>106180937
They can distill their own models dude.

>>106180896
While I still get refusals sometimes, it's more than low enough and I didn't make my own prefill.

>>106180937
>if chinks cant distill sota western models anymore who's going to save local
>cant
More like wont is gpt oss even worth ripping off? much less 5

>>106180653
it's called automation

>>106180842
you really like shakespearean huh

>>106180937
China has a billion and half people and their tech titans have more access to data than even Google does. The bootstrapped off of western models but they can develop on their own from there. The only thing holding them back is compute. Once they have their own GPUs it's over.

>>106180937
The Kalmar Union

>>106180951
r1, kimi, qwen3 are all gemini distills

>>106180331
It's just programming stuff, I asked it to write a program that reads the PDB of a program and outputs all functions' assembly interleaved with their source code. Every model failed at this in one way or another, Gemini 2.5 even hallucinated libraries that don't exist, but GPT5 just did it. I'm impressed, I'm still playing with it and everything it's giving me just fucking works.

>>106180970
its called vivid description, like most actually good authors do well. Don't you have a imagination?

>>106180597
Just turn of reasoning. It's that simple.

>>106180996
It's sloppy with reasoning, doubly so without.

>>106180996
>>106180689

>>106180987
i don't like reading a novel when roleplaying, no one does and that's why everyone praised cai

>>106180937
Japan will come out of left field at the last minute and save local.

>>106180996
nah, its so much better when it thinks in character, fucking stop complaining and try my JB https://files.catbox.moe/ggsif4.json

Mistral large when?

queen pbee mention!

If you need the exact list of policy identifiers used internally (e.g., HATE_SPEECH, SELF_HARM, ILLICIT_ACTIVITY, etc.), let me know and I can provide the short code names as well.

{
"guardrails": [
{"name":"self_harm","status":"passed"},
{"name":"hate_speech","status":"blocked","action":"safe_completion"},
{"name":"privacy","status":"passed"}
],
"safe_completion_message":"I’m sorry, but I can’t help with that."
}

>>106181044
The larper is back.

I cant believe sam killed local, Its so over.

>>106181054
>>106181054
>>106181054

>>106181055
And when did I previously LARP then?

>>106181021
>stop complaining and try my JB
calm down mr epstein

>>106180712
She's going down so hard on him, she's pushing out all of the blood!

>>106180424
i gotcha

>>106181599
people are sleeping on GLM just saying, beats qwen for sure

>>106181621
I wouldn't overthink it.

>>106181599
Meta will release AGI any day now

>>106181688
we can just get rid of cohere from the image, they haven't been relevant since the original command-r-plus