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Anonymous No.106186877 [Report] >>106187337 >>106187444 >>106187485 >>106187527 >>106188011 >>106188049 >>106188250 >>106188869 >>106189480 >>106189905 >>106190357 >>106192602 >>106196221 >>106197884
OH yeah baby
Rate my commodore setup
Anonymous No.106186943 [Report]
too flat
Anonymous No.106187108 [Report]
Are you joking? Fucking 0/10
Anonymous No.106187337 [Report]
>>106186877 (OP)
5/10 .. im not seeing a 1541 drive or a joystick
Anonymous No.106187444 [Report]
>>106186877 (OP)
Fucking awful? 1/10
Anonymous No.106187463 [Report]
Comfy. Non ergonomic. Unhygienic. Cheers.
Anonymous No.106187485 [Report]
>>106186877 (OP)
load *.*
Anonymous No.106187527 [Report]
>>106186877 (OP)
> sd2iec
lame but better than nothing. get a real drive emulator like 1541u, queer.
8/10.
Anonymous No.106188011 [Report]
>>106186877 (OP)
10 Print "OP is a faggot"
20 Goto 10
Anonymous No.106188049 [Report] >>106188066
>>106186877 (OP)
Absolute shite due to lack of 1571.
>hurrdurr 1541
Don't care poorfag, OPEN 1,8,15,"U0>M1":CLOSE 1 yourself.
Anonymous No.106188066 [Report] >>106188073
>>106188049
>1571
i love this drive. it's so damn nice. makes 1541 look sad.
Anonymous No.106188073 [Report] >>106188099
>>106188066
The irony is that the 1571 (or more precisely, the 1570) is what the 1541 could have been. But noooooo, it had to be backward compatible with the VIC-20 for some ungodly reason, and Commodore had to use their unsaleable stock of buggy 6522 VIAs somehow.
Anonymous No.106188099 [Report] >>106188530
>>106188073
commodore's marketing department should have bene shot for that. an absolute mistake.
Anonymous No.106188250 [Report]
>>106186877 (OP)
Sweet. Load up some Ft. Apocalypse.
Anonymous No.106188530 [Report] >>106189460 >>106194678
>>106188099
For once, CBMs legendarily incompetent marketing department isn't to blame. Their engineers had to be FORCED AT FUCKING GUNPOINT to actually innovate.
Take their entire 8-bit line - from the fucking KIM-1 to the C65 - each revision is just the last one with another custom chip.
>pet - kim-1 but with a 6545 and a decent os rom
>vic-20 - pet with custom video/sound chip replacing 6545
>c64 - vic-20 with custom vic-ii chip replacing vic-i and separate sound chip
>ted series - c64 with oh-shit-part-counts-are-spiralling-lets-replace-our-four-custom-chips-with-one-do-everything-vlsi
>c128 - c64 with a cp/m machine superglued to it, also lets go full circle and come back to 6545, but lets make it some crazy inhouse hackjob variant instead
>c65 - c64 and lets try the ted idea again by trying to shoehorn everything into monstrous vlsi's, also make it only 80% compatible with the c64, also we're still using basically the same os we put in pets 15 years ago lol
Only with the Amiga did they break the mould - because they bought the whole fucking company off-the-shelf, nobody at CBM had anything to do with its design or engineering of it.
With this in mind, when faced with the choice of "let's redesign the 1540 to use our new, awesome 6526 CIA with working shift registers, making it ten times faster with this computer we're making that has ten times as much RAM", or "add more NOPs to the DOS to get around badlines lol", it was inevitable they'd go for the latter.
Anonymous No.106188743 [Report]
doesn't feel right without a CRT TV.
wish i grew up in that era.
Anonymous No.106188869 [Report] >>106193418
>>106186877 (OP)
Comfy but it's going to get unalived on that carpet. Also it would be better with a crt but you have what you have.
I do like the sd2iec though
6/10
Anonymous No.106189460 [Report] >>106190744 >>106191495
>>106188530
>c128 - c64 with a cp/m machine superglued to it, also lets go full circle and come back to 6545, but lets make it some crazy inhouse hackjob variant instead
i own one and can safely say that i've used cp/m less than a dozen times. got the original disk supplied by commodore
>"add more NOPs to the DOS to get around badlines lol", it was inevitable they'd go for the latter.
if it wasn't for clever bastards making fastloader routines, fastload carts and custom roms i would have sold my c64 over 35 years ago.
Anonymous No.106189480 [Report]
>>106186877 (OP)
Are you joking? Fucking 10/10
Fucking awesome? 10/10
Anonymous No.106189905 [Report]
>>106186877 (OP)
NOICE
Anonymous No.106190357 [Report] >>106190393
>>106186877 (OP)
Can you not afford a desk?
Anonymous No.106190393 [Report] >>106190616
>>106190357
desks are for faggots. real men setup their machines on the carpet, right in front of the tv.
Anonymous No.106190616 [Report] >>106191516
>>106190393
At least put it on a cardboard box or on top of your VCR.
Anonymous No.106190744 [Report] >>106191495 >>106191660 >>106196440
>>106189460
Wonder what percentage of C128 owners booted up CP/M once, played with it for less than an hour, and never touched it again? It was a feature that would have been a really neat bonus when the C64 was introduced but by the time the 128 came out, almost everyone was asking "why CP/M?"
That both CPUs could not be used at the same time made it nearly useless. CP/M might have been attractive to business users once upon a time but most had moved on by then. Probably would have been better to either add a second 6502 or something from the Motorola line, like a 6809 or 68K and design the bus and other components to allow them to work as co-processors.
Anonymous No.106191495 [Report] >>106191660
>>106189460
>>106190744
cp/m? are you talking about the shit dos is copied from? it could run that? or is it some mode?.. nah some mode right?
Anonymous No.106191516 [Report]
>>106190616
kek
Anonymous No.106191656 [Report]
man it could run that.. wow..

also never even seen a c128 before, closest I come is a friend inherited either uncle or cousins c64, which was of the type that looks like it. c64 was pretty dead at that point
Anonymous No.106191660 [Report] >>106191750 >>106191837 >>106196440
>>106190744
>Wonder what percentage of C128 owners booted up CP/M once, played with it for less than an hour, and never touched it again?
many. probably similar situation with geos for c64. nice idea, kinda useless. i remember seeing geos packed in with machines like c64c and those tight assed queers didn't even give you a mouse. it was so useless that people looked at the geos disks as free blanks.

>>106191495
>cp/m? are you talking about the shit dos is copied from? it could run that?
yep. looks pretty nice in 80 column mode using a cga monitor. sadly it's running at half the speed (4mhz z80 clocked at 2mhz).
Anonymous No.106191750 [Report] >>106191815
>>106191660
tempted to almost go buy one, but I know I won't have time for it. heh I bought an amiger 1200 a while back to tinker with. amiger was my first computer, but .. it was pretty dead when I got one. and I was too young to ever program on it, I started with that when I got my first PC

haven't had so much time to look at it, but ie on amiga to play a sample. it's just like a couple of instructions. so massive difference from a pc. they were awesome computers
Anonymous No.106191815 [Report] >>106191992 >>106192098
>>106191750
> and I was too young to ever program on it,
same. i learned m68k a decade after amiga was dead.
> it's just like a couple of instructions.
yeah. it's not much. copper lists are also fun. being able to setup your entire display and be perfect every scanline, controlling other functions like audio and disk drive without needing to burn 68000's time is a chad invention.
Anonymous No.106191837 [Report]
>>106191660
Though the bean counters would have gone insane since floppies weren't exactly free, even in bulk, but it would have helped if the 128 came with a disk of useful CP/M programs beyond the bare bones utilities from the flip side of the CP/M boot disk. Most people had no idea how much software was out there for it. Maybe throw in a Rouge clone too.
Anonymous No.106191992 [Report] >>106192399 >>106192421
>>106191815
>yeah. it's not much. copper lists are also fun. being able to setup your entire display and be perfect every scanline, controlling other functions like audio and disk drive without needing to burn 68000's time is a chad invention.
it was made it so awesome. primitive gpu basically. I haven't had time to learn that shit yet. is kinda fucked though peole are learning a long dead platform and prosessor today

I got my hands is not even mailing list, some professor at a danish university sent these text documents via snail mail to people on howto motorolla assembly and amiga programming

what's even more fucked they are still making amiga demos to this day, and you have this guy from the legendary swedish group the black lotus, he is holding seminars on how they did/do it.

new a500
https://youtu.be/iD9xk3SDSYc?list=RDiD9xk3SDSYc

new I think it's their engine but not them, I just like this one this is aga. I suspect a lot of cheating here, filesize is like 20mb.. so that would NOT be accepted back in the days

just check out tbl I am sure you are aware of them
https://youtu.be/QtHH408shWo?list=RDQtHH408shWo
Anonymous No.106192098 [Report]
>>106191815
also I got this part, which is also very diffrent from pc programming, so you follow the scanline all the time as you draw.. and also you can change the palette as you go, thus faking more colors

but holy shit, how on earth did they make polyfillers .. line primitive? esp with ie texturemapping?.. to a bitmap then just send it to the copper maybe?

anyways man since I was a kid I always looked up to these people, I started to compete on the demoscene on a pc in my early teens we got our asses rekt by these amiga guys(even though they were separate competitions)
Anonymous No.106192399 [Report]
>>106191992
>just check out tbl I am sure you are aware of them
>https://youtu.be/QtHH408shWo?list=RDQtHH408shWo
also in this demo is these danes... one of them call him self grandad... I guess because he prolly is a grandad.. these amiga coders are basically terry davis' generation and a bit younger

got imagine beeing in your early teens in the early 80ies.. it must have been so glorious I would have pounded that c64 and amiga

and instead of directx or vulkan or some other api and shit you are dealing directly with with the hardware and chips in assembly + it's so weak you can't go around do garbage like ie python on c# like today.. man places I've worked, you deal with programmers that don't even understand what goes on... the I just call this function types... no concept of hardware whatsoever
Anonymous No.106192421 [Report] >>106192475 >>106193213
>>106191992
> is kinda fucked though peole are learning a long dead platform and prosessor today
it's kinda cool. if you asked me back in 1994 or so if people would still be releasing demos in 2025 and i would have laughed and said "no". here we are in 2025 and people are still making stuff for it. same with the c64. still new things for it made all the time.
>I am sure you are aware of them
very much so.
Anonymous No.106192475 [Report]
>>106192421
>it's kinda cool. if you asked me back in 1994 or so if people would still be releasing demos in 2025 and i would have laughed and said "no". here we are in 2025 and people are still making stuff for it. same with the c64. still new things for it made all the time.
haha

with my demoscene, so we all started to work early on me at 18.. I took my degree later.. but one of us, he went to school.. all the way so he is a phd now.. anyways since we all were absent, he has won everything.. solo..

but yeah.. I haevn't been on that shit since I was a teenager, but is still pretty much alive

but man how different from today I was 17 when I got my first job offer, but underage and my parents had a say.. so no dice.. then turning 18.. screw you guys..

imagine man they went around.. hey you kid! I want to talk to you...
Anonymous No.106192591 [Report]
this is way way way before my time, terry davis could have been one of those teens

but is the main demo shit in denmark.. and look it's all amigas not one single PC! is 1990

https://youtu.be/Nsxz18Jm9Ug
Anonymous No.106192602 [Report]
>>106186877 (OP)
It's so... Commodorable!
Anonymous No.106192637 [Report]
>imagine the smell
oh yeah this during christmas, between christmas and new years, I was there once ages later
Anonymous No.106193213 [Report] >>106193266
>>106192421
It's fun to think about what the reaction would be if you walked into Commodore in 1982 with a modern C64 demo on a floppy. Absolutely would blow their minds what their machine can do.
Anonymous No.106193225 [Report] >>106194412 >>106194473 >>106196289 >>106196467
for me, it's adrian's digital basement
Anonymous No.106193266 [Report] >>106193462
>>106193213
they'd be impressed. they knew what it was capable of in 1982 but it took a long time for people to understand it. commodore did a shocking job explaining how the hardware worked and sometimes made vague remarks in the manuals that came with the system. i remember in one manual it says something about having 8 sprites but you can have 8 per line. didn't even bother explaining how the fuck that worked. so many games from that early period are dogshit because they didn't know any better.
Anonymous No.106193418 [Report]
>>106188869
>it's going to get unalived on that carpet
This is true, I have seen a few dead office PCs killed over the years from sitting on the carpet.
Anonymous No.106193462 [Report] >>106193490
>>106193266
It's fun to compare something like Tooth Invaders to the games that defined the machine later on.
Anonymous No.106193490 [Report]
>>106193462
yeah. i remember first seeing tooth invaders and others on commodore produced carts in late 1980s and they looked primitive then.
Anonymous No.106194412 [Report]
>>106193225
hehe I love that guy
Anonymous No.106194473 [Report] >>106194524
>>106193225
have you seen that norther irish?
https://youtu.be/CXHWnD9R164

is belfast speak right fuck sake don't kill me... I'm from norway I don't know your dialects
Anonymous No.106194492 [Report] >>106194524
forgot pic I love this guy
and his dialect
Anonymous No.106194524 [Report]
>>106194473
>>106194492
you from the british isles, this is northern how they speak in ullstaðir right?

I don'æt want to step in a hornest nest here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXHWnD9R164
Anonymous No.106194565 [Report]
aR

so damn comfy man

CRG über Alles!!!
Anonymous No.106194577 [Report] >>106194709
adrian can go fuck him self I am on the crg train
Anonymous No.106194678 [Report] >>106196514
>>106188530
Yeah trammel was too cheap to innovate at commodore past the initial machines... Then got his ass kicked out and went on to ruin Atari... by again being super fucking cheap. It's almost like it was in his bloodline.
Anonymous No.106194709 [Report] >>106196189 >>106196250
>>106194577
Yeah Adrian is an unbearable prick.
Anonymous No.106195638 [Report]
ah yeah whatever happened with the guy who bought Commodore and announced some official(TM) fpga thing?
Anonymous No.106196189 [Report]
>>106194709
no he is comfy as fug but I just love crg moar because of his stupid dialect...
Anonymous No.106196221 [Report]
>>106186877 (OP)
>no CRT monitor
It's shit.
Anonymous No.106196250 [Report]
>>106194709
rr® ®
look adrian can't compete I bet hose guys know each other

just random
https://youtu.be/lD1OjFqGAL8?t=1
Anonymous No.106196289 [Report]
>>106193225
r RR®RRRR

CRr®G > Adrian's basemnt
Anonymous No.106196309 [Report]
where is the rgb
Anonymous No.106196440 [Report]
>>106190744
>why CP/M?
According to Bil Herd, it was so there was a software base for the 80 column feature on day 1.
That, and CBM was absolutely inundated with Z80As from the "trade in any computer for a C64 and get $100 off!" deal, so had a near-infinite supply of ZX-81s from smart alecs who bought them for $49.95, then got a $100 trade-in on them.

>>106191660
It wasn't just the Z80A being clocked at 2MHz, it was also the rarted implementation of the 80-column chip, which hobbled its CP/M performance even further.
Anonymous No.106196466 [Report]
let's squirt some holy fux on them

come on make something up I want this two guys rivalling I am drunk
Anonymous No.106196467 [Report] >>106196769
>>106193225
My complaint about Apple Desktop Bus is how much he drags out his videos.
Necroware and BuB can do a nice, in-depth repair video in half the time Android Debug Bridge can. Do we really need to know the parasitic capacitence on every pin of the chips that you're running bodge wires between?
Anonymous No.106196514 [Report]
>>106194678
heh holy shit he is one, I did not know it that but it really explains a lot kek
Anonymous No.106196769 [Report] >>106197976
>>106196467
>Apple
.. apple...
Anonymous No.106197145 [Report]
Anonymous No.106197320 [Report]
0/10 no CRT monitor
Anonymous No.106197884 [Report]
>>106186877 (OP)
Absolutely based.
Anonymous No.106197976 [Report]
>>106196769
kek'd