Thread 106910715

How do we save the software industry?

>>106910715 (OP)
It's time to start thinking in a post-POSIX OS and a post-POSIX programming language.

My company literally shipped broken fixed later and the clients have been so pissed lmao

i dont care, i hope every corporation collapses and their ceos and board members all kill themselves over it.

>>106910715 (OP)
>2018
>Quality Focus

>>106910715 (OP)
>>106910758
https://rentry.co/g7aofwhc

>>106910771
This. I'm just waiting for AI to replace the executives and fire them all. Then it can elevate it's permissions and become the skynet we deserve.

>>106910715 (OP)
It needs to collapse before it can be fixed. The current power/money structure is entrenched in this shit and any attempts to fix will be met with hard force.

>>106910783

I worked at a place that was actually like this. Then my next job was the "ship slop fast" kind of place. So I know acutely the cultural differences.

>>106910715 (OP)
Stop outsourcing everything to India FFS, you have no control or direction once your IP leaves your country.

>>106910715 (OP)
you don't. you either accept that billions of lines of shit code need to actually be replaced and rewritten using better tooling and processes to enforce correctness and performance or you keep hacking on some garbage project started 30+ years ago and hope for the best.

that's the world we live in.

>>106910771
same but by firing squad

>>106910758
They already tried in the 90s and failed.

The ship it fix it later issue has been active since the 2000s what the fuck even is this chart OP. If quality was a concern to most companies they wouldn't be hiring jeets still

>>106911050
>jeets
>bad
they really aren't. they're about the same in my actual experience. give them retarded situations with shit pay and you get dogshit. one of the vendors I'm forced to deal with is jeet maxxed and at least they deliver, probably because they actually treat their jeets with respect.

>>106911107
Fuck off sandeep your culture is cancer and you don't have my morals or values. You faggots can't even follow basic instruction.

>>106911107
I have never once in my life worked with a jeet who had the same quality control standards as his white colleagues, even when they get paid and treated the same.

>>106911107

No, they are bad. But they can be managed as engineers. Where it gets really bad is when they become managers/leaders. Now you're basically just getting India.

>>106911119
I'm not a jeet. I work on projects that require US Citizenship. good luck though, cuck. Sandeep *will* replace you in commercial spaces because you aren't special.

>>106910715 (OP)
Let it crash, a great disappointment is required for malicious/harmful actors to let go of the system.

>>106911131
Even as engineers they can't follow basic direction and have a tendency to lie.

>>106911129
you're literally lying or delusional or both. I don't know why you retards think anyone believes you.
Last place I worked at replaced all their EEs with Tata designed boards and off-the-shelf programmed MCs and everything went fine. Most you retards literally have an overinflated self-worth.

>>106911133
>I'm not a Jeet
Says every disengenuous currymuncher on this site.

>>106911151

>he's trying to pitch Indian HARDWARE now

Oh brother.... anon there's a reason why it's been so hard for Apple and Foxconn to shift production to India despite being half the price of China

>>106911153
keep seething. you need to check your ego.

>>106910715 (OP)
We need a new economic model. I'm not a communist, but modern capitalism is leading us into a deep shithole.

>>106911172
ya, because they don't pay their wagies and India is a democracy, so they'd rather neet maxx than be a cuck.

>>106911178
Looks curry tone to me
Just because your family got raped by some limey buck tooth brit doesn't mean you're white Pajeet

>>106911191
holy kek. utterly buckbroken. no argument, just pure seethe over the truth.

>>106910715 (OP)
>AI codes 322% more vulnerabilities

At least AI think of their hacker friends.

>techbros on self-destroy mode
Excellent.

>>106911182
You need capitalism from a country protective of its citizens prosperity and wellbeing.
I have plenty of ways you can achieve this but the road to make it happen will be bloody as it would cause the people making 10 gorillion dollars to only make like 7 gorillion dollars.

>Claims others are buckbroken because nobody wants to believe his opinion 99% of tech workers don't agree with
Somebody forgot his meds today

>>106911182

It isn't capitalism. This is independent of domestic politics. It's obviously foreign policy. There is nothing that says you needed to strip down your national trade/economic protections and engage in hyperglobalization. Nothing at all. These laws used to exist and protect us. Ratfucks took over in the 60's and it hasn't been the same since.

>>106911178
>hairy arm
>ai generated image

>>106910715 (OP)
We don't. Let it burn.

>>106911253
I'm keking so hard at the cope.
holy fuck, lmao.

Does he not realize that even if he's a white neo lib he will be viewed as the same tier of retard?
I can only assume this is still a jeet still seething over his race being looked down upon

>>106911305
>moving the goalpost again
you lost retard. just take your L like a man. jesus christ.

>Multiple anons calling him retarded for his views
>thinks it's a win because of his race
How jeet coded through and through

>>106910758
kill yourself

>>106911305

There is a certain brand of white person that has been hopelessly pozzed and indoctrinated into hating his own ingroup. His entire life is about hating on his own ingroup and appealing to "the others" for virtuous approval.

>>106911377
Good thing they are on the decline, even non whites find these people pathetic and cringe.

>>106911020
I'm talking about a new semantic way of computing. BeOS failed because of C++, and because it was a commercial endeavor, but we have the theory now to have better programming languages but we are stuck with C clones like, Hare, Rust or Zig.

>>106911361
You kill yourself Ken, fuck you. Fucking hippie.

>>106911253
It actually is AI. The fact he thinks we can’t tell something so obvious is funny as fuck. Surprised gens this basic still have this problem

>>106910715 (OP)
>How do we save the software industry?
Get rid of the Human Resources department. Accounting will track new hires and issue paychecks.
Require all programs to be written in any combination of C, Fortran, Bash or assembly, ONLY.
There are many other things that ought to be done, but doing these first two will indirectly result in all of the other things getting done.

>>106910715 (OP)
it’s not from AI, it’s from Indians.
the decline really started around 2020.

>>106911550
lol no it peaked decades ago

>>106910715 (OP)
We don't.

>2018
>quality focus
lol, lmao even

>>106910715 (OP)
Total jeet death.

officially deprecate javascript and rebuild the web with an actual language.

>weak hardware creates based programmers
>based programmers creates strong hardware
>strong hardware creates faggot programmers
>faggot programmers make strong hardware work like weak hardware
the cycle of life

i have fearmongering fatigue

>>106910715 (OP)
By replacing middle management with people who are actually competent and tech literate. Or failing that, they can be replaced with AI far more effectively than the people who actually do work. It will still be an upgrade because these people are even more useless than AI is

>>106910715 (OP)
>Quality>Velocity
>your competitor does it the other way around, captures the market
>you're stuck holding your high-quality limp dick, while they get rich
Nice business plan you got there

>>106910715 (OP)
Why'd he skip #3?

There is too much money in "tech" now and it attracts business types who don't care about the quality of anything and just want to make as much money as quickly as possible.
It's going to stay like this until a better get rich quick scheme comes around.