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NEW JELLYFIN SERVER 10.11 IS OUT!!
https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/releases/tag/v10.11.0

Time to updoot!

Plex becomes less relevant with every new version!
Anonymous No.106944519 [Report] >>106956200 >>106956325
>>106944513 (OP)
https://jellyfin.org/posts/jellyfin-release-10.11.0
https://jellyfin.org/posts/jellyfin-release-10.11.0
https://jellyfin.org/posts/jellyfin-release-10.11.0
Anonymous No.106944522 [Report] >>106944552 >>106944893 >>106945124 >>106945212 >>106950524 >>106960603 >>106971937 >>106975466 >>106980619
>>106944513 (OP)
Still using plex
Anonymous No.106944552 [Report]
>>106944522
>Still using plex
then you don't belong on /g/
Anonymous No.106944893 [Report]
>>106944522
>Still using plex
then you belong on /g/
Anonymous No.106945016 [Report] >>106945699
If I was starting a media server today I'd pick Jellyfin. However, my plex server is 10 years old any all my family and friends use it.
Anonymous No.106945090 [Report] >>106945125 >>106945699
Jellyfin fucks up my SD shows for whatever reason (they play fine in VLC). From reading the notes, doesn't look like this update will fix this for me, which is unfortunate.
Anonymous No.106945109 [Report]
>>106944513 (OP)
Plex is better
Anonymous No.106945124 [Report] >>106946271 >>106950529
>>106944522
>still using plex
then your boy pussy needs some loving from my manly cock
Anonymous No.106945125 [Report] >>106945144
>>106945090
>Jellyfin fucks up my SD shows for whatever reason
Half my shows are SD and they play fine. What are you even doing? Are you trying to run XVID on a TV that doesn't decode it?
Anonymous No.106945144 [Report] >>106945157 >>106945396 >>106945485 >>106946129 >>106946978 >>106951090
>>106945125
The shows do this weird thing where there's a bunch of horizontal lines that splits the frames, like it's trying to show multiple frames at once. I use the official jellyfin client on my PC to watch stuff on jellyfin, which is where this is happening. If I watch the exact same file with VLC, the horizontal lines are gone and I see one frame at a time, how it should be.
Anonymous No.106945155 [Report] >>106945699
>>106944513 (OP)
Did they fix the trash search they broke a few versions ago?
Anonymous No.106945157 [Report] >>106945172
>>106945144
>I use the official jellyfin client on my PC to watch stuff on jellyfin, which is where this is happening. If I watch the exact same file with VLC, the horizontal lines are gone and I see one frame at a time, how it should be.
Sounds like you have an older PC with bad hardware decoding or bad graphics drivers. You should probably troubleshoot and switch decoding to another method or use software decoding like VLC also does.
Anonymous No.106945172 [Report] >>106945210
>>106945157
My PC is only a few years old. It has a Ryzen 7 5825U. No dedicated GPU.
Anonymous No.106945210 [Report] >>106945322
>>106945172
Weird. I've never had an issue with any Jellyfin client. Try another desktop client from https://github.com/awesome-jellyfin/awesome-jellyfin/blob/main/CLIENTS.md#-desktop
Anonymous No.106945212 [Report]
>>106944522
/thread
Anonymous No.106945322 [Report] >>106945358 >>106945465
>>106945210
I gave Fladder a try, and it has the same problem. It's not as obvious as in the official media player, but definitely still there.

I get the same artifacts on my other PC, which has a ryzen 7 5800X and RTX 3080. Could it be an encoder problem? The computer running plex has an intel Celeron J3455, which is pretty toaster tier. I figured for SD media it should be fine, I've streamed HD from this machine in the past without issue.
Anonymous No.106945358 [Report]
>>106945322
The celeron stays at 0% usage while streaming to my PC, so I don't think it's doing any encoding at all.
Anonymous No.106945396 [Report]
>>106945144
Looks like interlacing
Anonymous No.106945465 [Report]
>>106945322
>I gave Fladder a try, and it has the same problem. It's not as obvious as in the official media player, but definitely still there.
This is probably Fladder and Jellyfin Media Player both use MPV. Try going into the setting and turn off hardware acceleration or use another backend. I think MPV is not configured correctly for your Ryzen 7.

<--- see?
Anonymous No.106945485 [Report] >>106945537
>>106945144
>The shows do this weird thing where there's a bunch of horizontal lines that splits the frames, like it's trying to show multiple frames at once. I use the official jellyfin client on my PC to watch stuff on jellyfin, which is where this is happening. If I watch the exact same file with VLC, the horizontal lines are gone and I see one frame at a time, how it should be.
Oh I see now. You're watching interlaced content. 480i instead of 480p. You have to turn on "deinterlacing" on MPV. I think VLC does it by default.

Here's the solution from somebody with your issue.

https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/140opto/jellyfin_not_deinterlacing_direct_media/
Anonymous No.106945537 [Report] >>106945586
>>106945485
That fixed it, thank you very much!

Having to create a txt file with some magic stuff in it is not the best user experience, jellyfin has some work to do. It's a solved problem too, I don't need to make any bespoke config files in vlc to make my media work properly.
Anonymous No.106945586 [Report] >>106945608 >>106951429
>>106945537
>Having to create a txt file with some magic stuff in it is not the best user experience, jellyfin has some work to do.
It's not Jellyfin. It's mpv, which has all the settings in a text file and it has deinterlacing off by default because interlaced content is rare because encoded DVDs are typically already deinterlaced into 480P.

VLC works because it has a built-in DVD disc player function so it has interlacing turned on by default. MPV doesn't have a DVD disc player because its meant for digital media, but it is very powerful and you can make it do anything with the text file settings.

Glad you got it fixed.
Anonymous No.106945608 [Report] >>106945722 >>106951471
>>106945586
I ripped the files myself with makemkv. Is there a setting I needed to change to deinterlace ahead of time so mpv doesn't need to do it?

Looks like ffmpeg can deinterlace, I'll look into doing that to my files.
Anonymous No.106945699 [Report] >>106949665
>>106945016
Yeah its not as easy to invite new users but Wizarr is a nice tool that can make that process simpler
>>106945090
might be your transcoding, do you have it turned on?
>>106945155
i never had a problem with my search but the new release made it a lot faster
Anonymous No.106945722 [Report]
>>106945608
>I ripped the files myself with makemkv. Is there a setting I needed to change to deinterlace ahead of time so mpv doesn't need to do it?
Ah that's why. Older DVDs especially are interlaced so if you rip them with makemkv, they will typically be ripped untouched and remuxed into an mkv container for easy playback. You'd need to encode the mpeg2 and dolby data to something like x264 or x265 with a encoder like Handbrake to save space while keeping quality and during that process, it will deinterlace the file for you and spit out a smaller encoded mkv but of course, that takes time. You will probably just want to let the player deinterlace for you.

Here's somebody with the same question as you and people's replies so you can do more research yourself.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/gfw0ue/dvd_ripping_deinterlacing_and_makemkv/
Anonymous No.106946053 [Report]
>>106944513 (OP)
Based
Anonymous No.106946121 [Report] >>106946198 >>106946330 >>106946689 >>106955194
>>106944513 (OP)
Have they added a proper folder heirarchy browser yet?
Some of us don't want to be held hostage by third party databases and simply want to browse based on our custom folder structures.
Half my shit doesn't organize properly with the typical plex-like movie poster browser bullshit.
Anonymous No.106946129 [Report] >>106946663 >>106947404 >>106951017
>>106945144
>This idiot doesn't know what deinterlacing is
How fucking far have we fallen?
Anonymous No.106946134 [Report] >>106946283 >>106946596 >>106946874
Everything on my server just works
why should I update
Anonymous No.106946151 [Report] >>106951427
>>106944513 (OP)
>You MUST be running Jellyfin 10.10.7 before upgrading to 10.11.0!
well i'm not so fuck this shit
Anonymous No.106946198 [Report] >>106946226
>>106946121
Example? I've never had an issue.
I couldn't imagine some old anime causing problems because nips refused to use the season format.
Anonymous No.106946209 [Report] >>106946234 >>106946360
If you have andriod tv you should be using the dune client. It looks great
Anonymous No.106946226 [Report]
>>106946198
Seasonal anime for one doesn't work right. I have to use "home movies" for it in order to actually see which episode I'm about to watch, and using that Kodi refuses to display watched/unwatched, so it's a shitshow.
For me personally, I enjoy listening to anime OP and EDs. I have a library for this, organized by season, then by show and finally the OPs. Obviously using the default music database just creates a plethora of listings for each individual song/artist, many times in unintelligible moonrunes.
If I use the current "view folder structure" option, it stops reading it past the first fucking folder.
Like how hard is it just to make a library type that strictly lets you browse it like a PC folder structure without all the media metadata nonsense?
Anonymous No.106946234 [Report]
>>106946209
This looks like peak braindead normie shit
I miss PS3 Media Server
Anonymous No.106946246 [Report] >>106947228
>>106944513 (OP)
I'm still waiting for them to update android client with better player. Currently Web player and exoplayer both suck
Anonymous No.106946271 [Report] >>106946475
>>106945124
What a shame you can't connect remotely without significant effort.
Anonymous No.106946283 [Report] >>106949739
>>106946134
>Everything on my server just works
>why should I update
get pwned then
Anonymous No.106946314 [Report]
>>106944513 (OP)
Does group streaming work yet, or do they still have a non-working button for it without ever mentioning they broke it?
Anonymous No.106946330 [Report] >>106946383
>>106946121
>Some of us don't want to be held hostage by third party databases and simply want to browse based on our custom folder structures.
Then just use SMB or ZFS or WebDAV you stupid monkey
Anonymous No.106946360 [Report]
>>106946209
>If you have andriod tv you should be using the dune client. It looks great
Nah it's not polished enough yet
Anonymous No.106946383 [Report] >>106946387 >>106946543
>>106946330
Nigger do I look like I know what any of that shit is?
Anonymous No.106946387 [Report]
>>106946383
Of course not you monkey. Go learn it. It's exactly what you want.
Anonymous No.106946445 [Report]
Just got on the jellyfin train yesterday. Installed on an LXC in proxmox as that seemed to me the cleanest option. Trying to move most of my stuff to docker containers since I like being able to declaratively define the desired configuration with docker compose, but I'm running docker in a VM and didn't want to pass through the entire iGPU for hardware acceleration and lose the video outputs for direct host console emergency access. Also didn't want to run docker on the proxmox host.
Currently I just bind mounted a video directory into the container but are there any storage considerations I should be aware of?
Anonymous No.106946450 [Report] >>106946492 >>106946596
>>106944513 (OP)
everything runs fine tho
why should i updoot?
Anonymous No.106946475 [Report]
>>106946271
>significant effort
tell me you're tech illiterate without telling me you're tech illiterate
Anonymous No.106946483 [Report] >>106946589 >>106950548 >>106955194
>>106944513 (OP)
doesnt matter if the apple tv client is dogshit
Anonymous No.106946492 [Report]
>>106946450
>everything runs fine tho
>why should i updoot?
because it will be funny when your old software gets you pwned
Anonymous No.106946543 [Report]
>>106946383
>"nigga i dont know how to use a windows file share"

this is how low /g/ has fallen
Anonymous No.106946589 [Report]
>>106946483
>doesnt matter if the apple tv client is dogshit
Just try another client for your gay box.
https://github.com/awesome-jellyfin/awesome-jellyfin/blob/main/CLIENTS.md#apple-tv
Anonymous No.106946596 [Report] >>106947453
>>106946450
>>106946134
https://jellyfin.org/posts/jellyfin-release-10.11.0
Anonymous No.106946663 [Report]
>>106946129
You can only blame you and the rest of your freetard friends for shilling Jellyfin to people that clearly should have stayed on Plex.
Anonymous No.106946689 [Report]
>>106946121
>Some of us don't want to be held hostage by third party databases and simply want to browse based on our custom folder structures.
Hey stupid fuck, why not use any of the dozen file transfer protocols instead?
Anonymous No.106946846 [Report] >>106947467
>>106944513 (OP)
I already have the permanent lifetime Plex pass so don't need to swap right now. I'm interested to see what it's like though... One day it will probably be more performant, particularly the TV apps etc need improving.
Anonymous No.106946874 [Report]
>>106946134
You don't. I'm used to plugins that will certainly break with this update, so I'll wait until they support it.
Anonymous No.106946978 [Report]
>>106945144
That's a deinterlacing problem for sure.
Anonymous No.106947228 [Report] >>106947381
>>106946246
>I'm still waiting for them to update android client with better player. Currently Web player and exoplayer both suck
Just use another client...
Anonymous No.106947381 [Report] >>106955194
>>106947228
Every Jellyfin client sucks
Anonymous No.106947394 [Report] >>106947450 >>106947487 >>106947619 >>106948777 >>106951859 >>106960655
They are not making upgrading sound compelling

Currently everything just works so I have no need to updoot
Anonymous No.106947404 [Report]
>>106946129
I do, but he shouldn't have to. Watching a video is about the most "normie" internet activity possible, and it should work.
Anonymous No.106947450 [Report]
>>106947394
you will have to follow those steps eventually anyway, might as well do it now
Anonymous No.106947453 [Report] >>106949714
>>106946596
Reading this just says the update was more for them than it was the users. Snapshots is a nice addition though.

>In practice, this means that Jellyfin will use more RAM than before, up to the full size of your Library database.

what

>Be aware of this as you upgrade, as it will look like a lot more resource utilization.

is my piddly 8GB meme server even gonna be enough now? it's been fine for years before this
Anonymous No.106947467 [Report]
>>106946846
Plex just looks so much more professional than Jellyfin. My normie friends are impressed by it every time they use it.
Anonymous No.106947481 [Report]
>We now have more accurate rendering of ASS/SSA subtitles when using hardware transcoding.
they better not be lying this time like all the other times
Anonymous No.106947487 [Report] >>106956527
>>106947394
>several hours to update library that already works fine
pass. plex worked good before a jillion updates too.
Anonymous No.106947619 [Report] >>106947741
>>106947394
Imagine bothering to make backups. Honestly I might consider deleting the entire thing and installing from scratch, fuck my existing metadata it can just make it again.
Anonymous No.106947631 [Report] >>106948162 >>106950890 >>106955194 >>106956341
do they have a good apple TV client yet? pretty much the only thing holding me back
Anonymous No.106947741 [Report] >>106951165
Not that many "noticeable" new major features. I like the easier backups. I just wish they would work on the desktop client more. I don't like being unable to adjust the subtitle settings from the video page.

>>106947619
It feels cleaner doing just that. I'm considering it now.
Anonymous No.106947813 [Report]
just docker pulled no bakcups let's see how long this db update takes
the startup ui and log viewer are a nice touch
Anonymous No.106948162 [Report]
>>106947631
>do they have a good apple TV client yet? pretty much the only thing holding me back
I like Swiftfin
https://github.com/awesome-jellyfin/awesome-jellyfin/blob/main/CLIENTS.md#apple-tv
Anonymous No.106948777 [Report] >>106948820
>>106947394
>Currently everything just works so I have no need to updoot
idiot
Anonymous No.106948820 [Report] >>106948858
>>106948777
When it breaks I'll updoot
until then
I will not
faggot
Anonymous No.106948858 [Report] >>106950566
>>106948820
>When it breaks I'll updoot
when you get hacked like plex users do
because jellyfin and plex are both web servers with many 0 days.
it will be too late....
Anonymous No.106948977 [Report] >>106949593
>>106944513 (OP)
Will the actual website come installed with this version? I swear every time I install it manually or with a proxmox community script it installs without the actual website, and all attempts to install it fall flat. Am I stupid, or was it just always broken.

Docker container works our of the box, but I hate docker
Anonymous No.106949465 [Report] >>106949547 >>106950570
Jellyfin is slow as fuck and breaks way too often to be useful for anything
Anonymous No.106949501 [Report] >>106949556
is this upgrade gonna corrupt my database again? so annoying
Anonymous No.106949547 [Report]
>>106949465
>Jellyfin is slow as fuck
it's not slow at all

>breaks way too often to be useful for anything
been using it for 2 years. never had anything "break"
Anonymous No.106949556 [Report]
>>106949501
>is this upgrade gonna corrupt my database again? so annoying
sounds like you upgraded without following directions. this release is a huge update so you might as well start fresh and do a clean install.
Anonymous No.106949593 [Report]
>>106948977
stop using proxmox and you'll start to use podman. just install debian and skip the web UI nonsense of proxmox.
Anonymous No.106949665 [Report]
>>106945699
Yes that was the issue and that is a problem being slow as fuck. It went from 0.1 second search to 1 plus seconds. That's 10 times slower.
It stemmed from them searching every key down and also their search being slow.
Looks like they fixed it to not spam the search every key down, which is something I told them to do. Search only after a delay in typing.
But the search itself is still slow as fuck, luckily you do not notice because it only is doing one search instead of ten when you type one word.
Anonymous No.106949714 [Report]
>>106947453
no, you will need 1TB of ddr5 ram now
Anonymous No.106949739 [Report] >>106949752
>>106946283
Did they fix a cve ir something?
Anonymous No.106949752 [Report] >>106949803 >>106949841 >>106952004 >>106959667
>>106949739
they just said they cleaned up years of spaghetti code and also it'll want 10x your ram now
Anonymous No.106949803 [Report]
>>106949752
RAM usage only went up to 30MB for me.
Anonymous No.106949841 [Report] >>106949910 >>106950536
>>106949752
You don't know what a CVE is?
Anonymous No.106949853 [Report] >>106955194
So now that they are removing native TLS cert management what's a good reverse proxy to use for windows?
Anonymous No.106949910 [Report]
>>106949841
no
Anonymous No.106950395 [Report]
>>106944513 (OP)
based
Anonymous No.106950524 [Report]
>>106944522
I love Plex, but I'm growing increasingly annoyed by it. In the latest version for Roku, I have to restart the app every time I have to get subtitles working for a particular show or movie, and it's driving me nuts. This isn't an issue with Jellyfin, but I'd like a solution for Plex.
Anonymous No.106950529 [Report]
>>106945124
You're a faggot.
Anonymous No.106950536 [Report]
>>106949841
Yes I do?
Anonymous No.106950548 [Report]
>>106946483
Get a Shield like a normal person.
Anonymous No.106950566 [Report]
>>106948858
i run everything on my local network and don't share with anyone outside of it
faggot
Anonymous No.106950570 [Report]
>>106949465
skill issue. simple as.
Anonymous No.106950890 [Report]
>>106947631
a friend of mine uses jellyfin via apple tv, i have not seen a problem yet
not sure if plugins like intro skipper work
Anonymous No.106951017 [Report] >>106968342
>>106946129
i'm sorry anon, but this is the future, young people don't know what interlacing is anymore
Anonymous No.106951090 [Report]
>>106945144
>like it's trying to show multiple frames at once.
you're basically correct. television used to work by drawing even lines, then odd lines, and so on. this was basically a compression technique to improve spacial resolution for still or slow-moving images in the analogue domain (it halves the bandwidth required but still images look the same resolution, only fast-moving images approach half-resolution).
digital captures of said interlaced content puts even and odd lines (fields) into the same frame, but they're not supposed to be shown at the same time, so such files need to be flagged as being interlaced, and players need to perform deinterlacing to handle this correctly if displaying them on a non-interlaced display (any modern display)
Anonymous No.106951104 [Report]
>>106944513 (OP)
I don't like updating. It always breaks.
Anonymous No.106951165 [Report]
>>106947741
I glanced over the blog, appears that it's not a really a feature update so much as removing spaghetti code and fixing de-duplication errors in the metadata database.
Making future feature releases more likely?
I have a tiny library and it upgraded extremely quickly, but to be honest, if I had a giant library with lots of metadata errors, I'd probably just do a clean install and let JF fetch everything again.
Anonymous No.106951427 [Report] >>106958571
>>106946151
>docker compose down
>docker compose pull
>docker compose up -d
Anonymous No.106951429 [Report] >>106951463
>>106945586
>DVDs are typically already deinterlaced into 480P
this is incorrect. interlaced dvd's are actually pretty common, any NTSC film content is interlaced for example, and any 50i/60i tape content is interlaced as well.
i presume you're in a PAL region, same as me. movies in PAL DVDs are progressive, because they're simply sped up to 25fps. dvd's don't support 24p, 50p or 60p. they stick to traditional analogue standards pretty closely. 24fps film content sped up to 25fps PAL is the only situation where you will find dvd's with no interlacing. and that's assuming the have no 50i effects or segments (mixed-rate content was prevalent in the analogue days)
Anonymous No.106951463 [Report] >>106951511 >>106952095
>>106951429
I hated DVDs so goddamn much
Anonymous No.106951471 [Report]
>>106945608
if you want to transcode them, then you need to either make sure you flag the resulting files as being interlaced, or deinterlace them before transcoding them.
the best deinterlacer out there is qtgmc, but if it's film content (which your screenshot suggests), then what you might need instead is an Inverse TeleCine (IVTC) filter, which can turn the 60i video back into the 24p video is was sourced from, this is distinct from deinterlacing, though it does also remove deinterlacing artifacts
Anonymous No.106951511 [Report]
>>106951463
DVD was a product of its' time. i can't blame it for this. 100% of broadcast tv was interlaced when DVD came around. it hardly mattered that it supported progressive video, none of the content was, and nobody had 480p ("EDTV") televisions
it was forward-thinking enough to support (anamorphic) widescreen.
it supported everything that it reasonably could have in 1996 when it came out
Anonymous No.106951606 [Report] >>106955194 >>106956242 >>106956284 >>106959031
I love jellyfin but can they please make an actual fucking anime library? I tried shoko but it still sucks. Right now I'm back to just watching it with mpv but I like having jellyfin track my progress.
Anonymous No.106951859 [Report] >>106971846
>>106947394
I upgraded and my library size is pic related, it took like under 5m to finish the migration.
Anonymous No.106952004 [Report]
>>106949752
C# enjoys taking the amount of RAM you allow it to, rather than what it needs. If you wish to give it less, you'll want to limit the container.
Anonymous No.106952095 [Report] >>106952117 >>106952571 >>106953746 >>106958585
>>106951463
imo the biggest shame now is that few people know how to handle DVDs
recently i wanted to re-watch Mr. Bean, and the popular torrents were all "deinterlaced" to 25fps. deinterlaced video may piss you off, but what's even more egregious is when 50i (or 60i) content is turned into 25p (30p), throwing away half the temporal information ("framerate") in the process
i had to find a dvd remux just get the original 50i video.

clip related, the original dvd deinterlaced with qtgmc vs. a popular "hevc, 10bit" encode.
Anonymous No.106952117 [Report]
>>106952095
>deinterlaced video may piss you off
or rather; interlaced video may piss you off
Anonymous No.106952571 [Report] >>106952647 >>106952673
>>106952095
I'm autistic sensitive to frame rates, 5ms tier lip sync issues, but I can barely see a difference lol. Left is the smoother one right?
Anonymous No.106952647 [Report] >>106952673
>>106952571
yes, left has literally twice the frame rate. if you can barely tell the difference, maybe you're not as autistic as you think you are
seriously thought the horitontal panning scenes like the crash and the parking should be blatantly obvious
Anonymous No.106952656 [Report] >>106952691 >>106955194 >>106956250
I can't believe the number of people that will go through literal hell to avoid a $75 Lifetime Plex Pass purchase. I thought tech workers had more money than time. Or do you just enjoy your suffering in some sick way?
Anonymous No.106952673 [Report]
>>106952571
>>106952647
oh also should note that this is /25 and 50fps/, not 30/60, so it's best viewed at a multiple of that, like 50Hz or 100Hz, if you're viewing at 60Hz then it won't look as smooth as it should be, which can make them harder to tell apart
Anonymous No.106952691 [Report] >>106953258
>>106952656
I setup my jellyfin server a year ago, as easy as clicking next a couple times, put movies on a folder and enjoy, never had a single issue and plenty of family and friends use it too
Anonymous No.106952702 [Report] >>106955201
I kinda stopped using jellyfin because I was only using it for organizing anime on one machine and I found something better to do that. Namely Seanime.
Though I have my own major gripes with that software.
Anonymous No.106952745 [Report] >>106954923
Can I update it without restarting the server? I'm lazy.
Anonymous No.106952771 [Report] >>106955201
>>106944513 (OP)
>Plex becomes less relevant with every new version!
How is Plex less relevant now that Jellyfin... shows a startup notification instead of 404ing, and removed automatic port forwarding?
Anonymous No.106952849 [Report] >>106952875 >>106953045 >>106955201
Serious question, why should I install jellyfin over my current configuration which is a NAS + a chromecast with kodi on it? I watched a couple videos but I'm still not sold
Anonymous No.106952875 [Report] >>106953045 >>106953959
>>106952849
jellyfin is only for content management, you get a netflix UI and it keeps track of what you watched
Anonymous No.106953045 [Report] >>106953959
>>106952849
What this anon >>106952875 said, plus it's nice if you want to server media to your family/friends. You can make them accounts and manage what they have access to.
Anonymous No.106953258 [Report] >>106953434
>>106952691
Yeah I'm sure you're not lying based on every Jellyfin thread and experiencing the app firsthand and the "highlights" of this release
Anonymous No.106953434 [Report] >>106953466
>>106953258
The highlights of the release are search speeds and caching etc. everything else they're obviously ultra proud of but nobody cares because users only care about what they experience and see... Unless it's like "your password will be leaked to Pakistan".
Anonymous No.106953466 [Report] >>106955201
>>106953434
It's great they exist but it's not Plex yet. I'm worried I'll have to leave Plex for Jellyfin eventually but I hope it's in the distant future when it's good
Anonymous No.106953746 [Report] >>106953863
>>106952095
FUCK YOU TO HELL
Anonymous No.106953863 [Report] >>106968598
>>106953746
wtf am i looking at
Anonymous No.106953959 [Report]
>>106952875
>>106953045
Okay then I'll stick with kodi thanks. I only want to consume media on my living room tv, not watch on the go or share with others.
Anonymous No.106954163 [Report]
>albums wouldn't play until I refreshed music library with "search for missing metadata" checked (so "Scan All Libraries" wasn't enough)
>half the soma.fm streams I had added as channels don't work on browser anymore, and none work on webos
>playlists in collections don't work anymore (pre-existing or new)
>finamp broken (didn't use it much anyway)
So far it's mostly downsides for me, hoping it gets ironed out. No idea why they'd push it as 10.11, feels like more of a major upgrade
Anonymous No.106954923 [Report] >>106955217
>>106952745
Nope
Anonymous No.106955194 [Report] >>106955201 >>106955355 >>106960630
>>106946483
>>106947631
Apple tv is actually quite good in terms of formats and interface imo but you have to use infuse.
>>106946121
>anime
I use sonarr which is kind of cheating but everything mostly organizes well under that. If you want to get more sophisticated I've heard shokofin works.
>>106947381
I like kodi and infuse.
>>106949853
Not sure about windows, I hear good things about caddy though.
>>106951606
Interesting, have you tried managing with radarr/sonarr/prowlarr first? I know it's a lot of bloat for just anime. What didn't work about shoko?
>>106952656
Plex is getting increasingly hostile to server owners even though that's the majority of their userbase. And isn't lifetime $250?
Anonymous No.106955201 [Report] >>106959562
>>106955194
PART 2:

>>106953466
>>106952771
Honestly I find jellyfin much better than plex except for PM4K and kometa. Everything else jellyfin does much better for my users and clients. At least jellyfin never breaks basic playback features like plex does for me all the time, all the required features just werk. Kometa and pm4k are kino however and I totally get wanting to stay just for those.
>>106952702
>seanime
Cool, never tried this. How does it compare to something like shoko/shokofin?
>>106952849
You can use kodi as the frontend and jellyfin for the backend, this is what I do. If you're the only user watching though jellyfin might be out of scope for your use case, although I used it this way for a few years.
Anonymous No.106955217 [Report]
>>106954923
but wh
Anonymous No.106955355 [Report]
>>106955194
>What didn't work about shoko?
Been a while since I tried it but iirc it was treating movies as shows. Ideally it would differentiate shows and movies but still group a series together so you don't have a dozen entries from 1 series clogging things up (e.g. Monogatari).
Anonymous No.106955828 [Report]
So much better than using Kodi
Anonymous No.106955877 [Report] >>106955900 >>106955948 >>106956932
Is there ANYTHING that works properly with new seasonal anime?
Anonymous No.106955900 [Report]
>>106955877
stremio
Anonymous No.106955948 [Report]
>>106955877
nobody cares about tran-ime
Anonymous No.106956200 [Report] >>106956205
>>106944519

wait... if i just run this shit in docker, do I need to heed any of their warnings?
Anonymous No.106956205 [Report] >>106956260
>>106956200
probably
Anonymous No.106956242 [Report]
>>106951606
What's wrong with shoko? I've never had an issue with it besides jellyfin not showing backgrounds for stuff it adds from there.
Anonymous No.106956250 [Report]
>>106952656
Whos retarded enough to pay for an inferior product?
Anonymous No.106956260 [Report]
>>106956205
fwiw i backed up, compose down/pull/up and worked fine.
Anonymous No.106956284 [Report] >>106959031
>>106951606
How do people have so much trouble with anime? The only thing I've ever had metadata problems with is Monogatari.
Anonymous No.106956325 [Report]
>>106944519
>This is probably one of, if not the, biggest and most impactful releases we've done yet
>>106944513 (OP)
>changelog:
>Add startup check for sufficient storage capacity
>Added Setup overlay app to communicate status of startup
>Remove the ability to auto port forward
wow...
Anonymous No.106956341 [Report] >>106963350
>>106947631
>do they have a good apple TV client yet?
No. Swiftfin is still dogshit
Anonymous No.106956527 [Report]
>>106947487
Have library of 60,000 items, from 10.9 to 10.10.7 took about 5 min, 10.10.7 to 10.11.0 took 10 min.
Anonymous No.106956932 [Report] >>106960593 >>106963904
>>106955877
I don't understand this complaint. I use sonarr + jellyfin and almost never have issues with seasonal anime. Rarely sonarr may not have the correct name to search for on the premiere date, but usually gets fixed within a day or two and then works fine for the rest of the season.
Anonymous No.106957295 [Report] >>106971921
I don't understand codecs. My goal is to have all videos converted to a format that will run natively on my roku tv. I have been converting to h264 and thought that was all that mattered. Either h264 works on the tv or it doesn't. But with a series I just added there was a slight loading and the playback information says it has to transcoded because:

Reason: VideoProfileNotSupported
Reason: VideoBitDepthNotSupported


I've been converting everything with ffmpeg, using the same crf=30, and libx264. Why does this one not work? And what do I need to add to get the right video profile and bit depth?
Anonymous No.106957668 [Report] >>106961916 >>106964032 >>106968608 >>106968693
>>106944513 (OP)
I got an old laptop with a gen 3 quad i7 with 16GB, can it be used as a jellyfin server? or its too weak? how many streams could it handle? it only has an iGPU.
Anonymous No.106958571 [Report]
>>106951427
Apt update
Apt upgrade
Anonymous No.106958585 [Report]
>>106952095
Identical
Anonymous No.106959031 [Report] >>106959069
>>106951606
>can they please make an actual fucking anime library?
Here, use my setup:
\media
->\tv [TV Shows]
->\movies [Movies]
->\anime
->->\series [TV Shows]
->->\movies [Movies]

>>106956284
>How do people have so much trouble with anime?
I suspect there's a venn diagram overlap between 'refuses to / too stupid to tag music files correctly' and 'refuses to / too stupid to rename video files correctly'. It's not difficult at all to rename TV shows in the seriesname - s01e01 - episodename format, or to put movies into their own moviename (releaseyear) directories, and yet people continue to throw shit straight into \movies and \tv without stopping to rtfm or even THINK. Because they're retarded.
Anonymous No.106959069 [Report] >>106959135
>>106959031
"Mixed Movies and Shows" content type has worked fine for me to keep all anime in a single library.
Anonymous No.106959135 [Report]
>>106959069
I set up anime as separate libraries because I didn't want Legend of the Overfiend mixed-in with stuff like the Lethal Weapon movies lol.
Anonymous No.106959562 [Report] >>106963292
>>106955201
I've never tried Shokofin.
Seanime has a few good features that make it really nice for watching seasonal stuff like a calendar for new releases and a discovery page with all the new stuff. It has Anilist integration, so you can also search for and download old stuff which it catalogs like jellyfin (Although the algorithm really sucks and constantly gets it wrong and you have to retag shows which is also a cumbersome process). And it's kinda like Stremio in that you can just stream torrents in mpv instead of having to download the file first. It's neat.

It doesn't have any android apps or anything, though. It's pretty much strictly for use in a desktop. You can sorta access it from a webpage on other local devices, but it's awkward to use.
Anonymous No.106959667 [Report]
>>106949752
>and also it'll want 10x your ram now
meh
Anonymous No.106959777 [Report]
I updated the docker image on my raspberry pi yesterday and it wasn't working anymore.
Stopped everything, deleted the .config folder and restarted everything. I just had to log in from the browser, set the password and the folder to pick the files from again. I couldn't be bothered to find out what the problem was, I was in a hurry
Anonymous No.106960593 [Report]
>>106956932
they don't use sonarr is the problem
some try to use jellyfin's inbuilt media management which sucks ass even worse than Plex's
Anonymous No.106960595 [Report] >>106960701 >>106960781 >>106961307
>MARKED AS NOT PLANNED
>MARKED AS NOT PLANNED
>MARKED AS NOT PLANNED
Anonymous No.106960603 [Report]
>>106944522
based
Anonymous No.106960630 [Report] >>106963292
>>106955194
>Plex is getting increasingly hostile to server owners even though that's the majority of their userbase. And isn't lifetime $250?

Here's what happened at Plex HQ
>Random suits: Yo what if we bump Plex prices and lock features?
>Nah bro people will dip to competitors.
>Wait... what competitors?
>*scrolls through freetard junk*
>Aight lads, crank it.

And they had no loss of users.
Anonymous No.106960655 [Report]
>>106947394
damn i did not read any of that i just hit it with the ansible update playbook and it worked out
Anonymous No.106960701 [Report] >>106960757
>>106960595
Closed as duplicates of #2547
Anonymous No.106960757 [Report] >>106962071
>>106960701
>opened on Mar 9, 2020
It's over.
Anonymous No.106960781 [Report] >>106960929
>>106960595
>transcoding
anybody who does this is a retard
i disabled it
Anonymous No.106960891 [Report]
As much as I want to use Jellyfin. Whenever I use it to stream to others it just shits the bed hard. Random disconnect, low quality, buffering etc.. While on Plex it just works.. I hate plex but I need Plex to watch shit with my friends. It works flawlessy locally though.
Anonymous No.106960929 [Report] >>106960933
>>106960781
Let me guess you only have some 480p 256kbit bitrate mp4 files that you stream.
Anonymous No.106960933 [Report] >>106960939
>>106960929
>Let me guess you only have some 480p 256kbit bitrate mp4 files that you stream.
No I only do HD. Transcoding is gayyyyyyyyyy. Turned it off day 1.
Anonymous No.106960939 [Report] >>106960952
>>106960933
>No I only do HD.
My bad, so it's 720p 256kbit mp4 files.
Anonymous No.106960952 [Report] >>106961931
>>106960939
>My bad, so it's 720p 256kbit mp4 files.
Um no fag I have 1080p and 2160p only, no YIFY shit. It just works.
Anonymous No.106961307 [Report]
>>106960595
Well that's fucking annoying
Seems like a critical bug to me. Could have just put a bounty/help wanted on it.
Anonymous No.106961698 [Report]
>t. Cartoon watching faggots
Anonymous No.106961916 [Report] >>106971213
>>106957668
You don't need a GPU at all for it, an i7 should be fine, but check to see if your cpu supports hardware transcoding. It's not essential, but will help out if you're streaming to a device that doesn't support whatever codec the file is in.
I use a NUC 150 and it's perfect. It's way weaker than your laptop.
Anonymous No.106961931 [Report] >>106962170
>>106960952
Nta, I like YIFY shit. :(
Anonymous No.106961992 [Report] >>106962247 >>106963370 >>106969363
>>106944513 (OP)
I often considered switching to Jellyfin but they don't have an app for samsung tvs. with plex at least it's plug and play.
Anonymous No.106962071 [Report]
>>106960757
>When i watch anime on my phone
Found the problem.
Anonymous No.106962170 [Report]
>>106961931
You should get your eyes examined.
Anonymous No.106962247 [Report]
>>106961992
Imagine using Samsung apps at all lol
Anonymous No.106963292 [Report] >>106963457
>>106960630
Emby exists. They had a loss of users from arguably their biggest customers, people who run plex servers professionally. For new customers they have been making moves to focus on their legit streaming offerings even though no one uses plex like that. And like I said, the only things they bring to the table over jellyfin besides interface are both FOSS developed, Kometa and PM4K. Kometa's biggest feature request is for a jellyfin version, and the developers have said they plan for it iirc.
>>106959562
That's interesting to know, I'll probably have to give it a try to see if I can recommend it to my weeb friends.
Anonymous No.106963350 [Report]
>>106956341
infuse
Anonymous No.106963370 [Report]
>>106961992
They do iirc but I think you have to jailbreak your samsung.
Anonymous No.106963457 [Report] >>106963539
>>106963292
idk what emby is up to since they went proprietary. i was using emby before, and naturally once something free goes non-free, someone forks it, that's how we got jellyfin
Anonymous No.106963539 [Report] >>106963625
>>106963457
It's like a plex that is less far along in their attempts to monetize imo. In fairness to emby I don't think they have the same focus on investor profits that plex does. It's alright. But I see it personally as a worst of all worlds. It's fast and efficient though so for extremely large pro content distribution servers (like 13+ PB of content) they have switched to emby rather than jellyfin from plex.
Anonymous No.106963625 [Report]
>>106963539
i know even less about plex. like i at least /knew/ emby, i've never known plex
Anonymous No.106963904 [Report]
>>106956932
>sonarr + jellyfin
Ditto. Just works. I’ll also use release profiles that I configured for specific release groups
Anonymous No.106963934 [Report]
>>106944513 (OP)
upgrade keeps breaking, holding off until 10.11.1
Anonymous No.106964032 [Report]
>>106957668
I'm running jellyfin on an old sony vaio core duo with 2gb of ram.
Anonymous No.106964516 [Report] >>106964687
>>106944513 (OP)
Done.
What's new ?
Anonymous No.106964687 [Report] >>106964886
>>106964516
backend crap-clear-out work mostly, which is why it was a HERE BE DRAGONS, THIS MAY FUCK SHIT UP kind of tone to the release notes.
Anonymous No.106964886 [Report] >>106965720
>>106964687
All my plugins are ok.

Also, this time, the update didn't fuck up the custom flags...
Anonymous No.106965012 [Report] >>106965111 >>106965348
I tried Jellyfin but the compression artifacts were just horrendous no matter what settings I chose

I actually reinstalled Plex yesterday and it works great right out of the box
Anonymous No.106965111 [Report]
>>106965012
>but the compression artifacts
Problem in Jellyfin configuration for encoding acceleration or in some drivers perhaps.

>reinstalled Plex yesterday and it works great right out of the box
That's a fair statement, not like the usual "Jellyfin is shit" or "Plex is a paid bloat".
Anonymous No.106965348 [Report]
>>106965012
Stop transcoding
Anonymous No.106965720 [Report] >>106966837
>>106964886
Can you redpill me on the white dragon 5 fanedit? How many fanedits do you have and where do you get them? How many are good? Is there like 1 for every popular movie?
Anonymous No.106966837 [Report]
>>106965720
>White dragon cut 5
Get the 11.3GB here :
https://pastebin.com/rg8jhiNU

>where do you get them?
fanedit.org
>Is there like 1 for every popular movie?
Lel,
number of fan edit movies = (meme movies) * (autist fan editors)

It's getting be worse with the overuse of AI.
Anonymous No.106968342 [Report]
>>106951017
Then why are they watching obscure cartoons from the 90s?
Anonymous No.106968598 [Report]
>>106953863
indian doing scam.
Anonymous No.106968608 [Report]
>>106957668
you don't need anything fancy at all if you're not doing transcode. if all your server does is deliver files to your house. a pentium3 is more than enough.
Anonymous No.106968693 [Report]
>>106957668
MP4
H264 High L4.1
1080p
AAC Stereo + 5.1
There, your files will play on every device on earth. Even my first gen chromecast.
Anonymous No.106969022 [Report] >>106969363 >>106978389
>>106944513 (OP)
recently got into this and some other arr stuff and I've been wondering, is there anything that's good for cleanup? maintainerr looks interesting but that seems to be a mostly plex sort of thing

I want to lessen the hassle of removing shit since I have to both delete a show or a movie on radarr/sonarr and then I have to go on qbittorrent itself to actually delete the file there

I've seen some things surrounding auto deleting the torrents once it hits a certain seeding threshold and then presumably the files would be copied over instead of being links? but then again I don't really want to cap shit, I want it to keep seeding as long as it's there

ideally I would just open up jellyfin as the admin there and delete something, and all the background services shit would handle themselves automatically, is there anything that comes even close to that?
Anonymous No.106969363 [Report] >>106975456
>>106961992
they do but you need to enter developer mode and install it from some github repo lol. not difficult for me but such a terrible user experience
>>106969022
when you delete a file in radarr/sonarr the default option is to remove it from your download client
Anonymous No.106970657 [Report] >>106970722
>/tmp has to be 2GB or larger or else it won't start
What a shitty change. Sure, I can increase the size of /tmp, but after doing that and Jellyfin running for days, it still hasn't written anything to it.
Anonymous No.106970722 [Report] >>106971315
>>106970657
i think it's for transcoding caches. i agree it shouldn't be a hard requirement, rather a warning. i also don't use transcoding
technically it only defaults to /tmp and you can change where it's temp files go, but again, i don't think the server should refuse to start because of an optional feature
Anonymous No.106970760 [Report] >>106971315
>>106944513 (OP)
Oh, so they FINALLY finished that major backend re-write?
Hopefully that means they can deploy new features easier in the future.
Anonymous No.106971213 [Report]
>>106961916
>I use a NUC 150 and it's perfect. It's way weaker than your laptop.

Yeah but its newer, has AV1 transcoding hardware right? this laptop was high end 13 years ago, it has Quick Sync and can handle H.264/AVC but newer stuff?
Anonymous No.106971315 [Report] >>106971755 >>106974284
>>106970722
I like that /tmp is a tmpfs stored in RAM in case it does write anything other than transcoding data (which I don't use).

>>106970760
What other major features are there to add though? I can't think of any, but my use-case is rather simple. I'd love some minor things like comments and user ratings. There are only 3 people using my instance, but it would still be fun.
Anonymous No.106971755 [Report]
>>106971315
A better webui?
Anonymous No.106971846 [Report] >>106973709
>>106951859
How many TB is that
Anonymous No.106971921 [Report]
>>106957295
Had to install intel-media-va-driver-non-free for my decoders to work
Anonymous No.106971937 [Report]
>>106944522
lol same
jellytrannies seething
Anonymous No.106973606 [Report]
Already see a speed improvement.
Anonymous No.106973709 [Report]
>>106971846
about 17.5TB
Anonymous No.106973721 [Report] >>106973927 >>106974171 >>106974542 >>106974589 >>106974752 >>106976514
Serious question hows the Metadata fetching of jellyfin? Have like a 5 year old Plex setup, no clue if I want to migrate to Jellyfin.
Anonymous No.106973927 [Report]
>>106973721
Works perfectly well for me, though I also keep my files nicely named and organized.
Anonymous No.106974171 [Report]
>>106973721
there's no 'special sauce' in either software, as they both use the exact same sources as standard for metadata: TVDB for TV shows, and IMDB / TMDB for movies. if the stuff you have is in either of those, and named in the way that it expects, you're good.

\tv\seriesname (optionalreleaseyear)\season 01\seriesname - s01e01 - optionaltitle.ext

\movies\movietitle (releaseyear)\literallyanyfile.ext
Anonymous No.106974284 [Report] >>106978389
>>106971315
>What other major features are there to add though?
at the end of the day it's a tool to playback video, so there's only so many But Wait There's More! bullet points you can wring out of it.

still, my immediate response would be 'a more robust database format, rather than the current SQLite database that's a patched-up holdover from the original XBMC days'. or a rework of the favourites system, so it doesn't amount to a single vertically-scrolling list of thumbnails on a forgotten tab on the homescreen. something that scans your filetree and makes poison gas come out of your computer if it detects something like
>~Content\Simpsons, The (U.S. - Animated - Ongoing)\Episodes I haven't seen yet\26-50\28-Stark-Raving-Dad.ogm
which clearly indicates the owner is incapable of taking care of themselves.
Anonymous No.106974542 [Report]
>>106973721
mine are automatically organized by Sonarr so it works perfectly
Anonymous No.106974589 [Report]
>>106973721
terrible that's why sonarr and beets do it for me
Anonymous No.106974743 [Report] >>106978389
What’s the best Jellyfin app on iOS devices nowadays?
Anonymous No.106974752 [Report]
>>106973721
If your Jellyfin doesn't list a specific folder, check themoviedb or tvdbid and add a flag like this :

www.themoviedb.org/movie/315837-ghost-in-the-shell

Add a flag to your folder :
./movies/Ghost_in_the_Shell_(2017)_[tmdbid-315837]/shitty-adaptation-in-4k.mkv
Anonymous No.106975456 [Report] >>106978389
>>106969363
it only seems to remove the linked files for me, the torrent stays in qbittorrent and I have to got there to delete it manually
Anonymous No.106975466 [Report] >>106978389
>>106944522

And I will be using Plex until Jellyfin is as widely available on everything. I don't want to support Plex but so far nothing can match the compatibility and stability. I don't really care for that myself but my plex users would get upset if I switched to Jellyfin.
Anonymous No.106975869 [Report]
>>106944513 (OP)
I used plex since 2018 or so
When they suddenly demanded some sort of ransom money for me to be able to play my fucking videos in my browser on my own server I jumped ship
Been on Jellyfin for half a year now. Havent looked back.
Anonymous No.106976514 [Report]
>>106973721
god this shit is so ass
Anonymous No.106978389 [Report]
>>106969022
I use janitorr. If you use qbit and setup qbitmanage that should take care of the torrents that don't auto delete.
>>106975456
You may have a problem with your hardlinks or didn't set them up. See trash-guides.info
>>106974284
>more robust database format
That's literally what 10.11 does.
>>106974743
Streamyfin for transcoding, infuse for everything else.
>>106975466
Jellyfin is pretty similarly supported, it's just not as slick as plex is which is understandably a negative for some. You may want to consider emby if your users are willing to switch.
Anonymous No.106979364 [Report]
let me guess, it still can't handle switching audio or subtitles without going out of sync
Anonymous No.106980619 [Report]
>>106944522
baaaaased fuck troons