Thread 106945225

How do you guys feel about trackballs? Are they easier on the hands than mice?
I got a recurring RSI on my right hand and switched all mice usage to my left, but find it hard to use modifier + click (like, ctrl/shft/etc.)

>>106945225 (OP)
There you go

>>106945225 (OP)
can you take the ball out? how is the movement detected, with a mouse sensor?

>>106945225 (OP)
It's better to just get one of those massage guns and run it over your hands and forearms every hour

Trackballs are ok but don't really solve RSI

>>106945279
Horrible, just awful
The fact I have to PINCH to click makes it actively worse than a normal mouse

Does a thumbstick count as a trackball? Prolly not but I got this
Still getting used to it though

>>106945225 (OP)
I have one built into my keyboard on the side. They don't compare to nipples.

>>106945225 (OP)
These sorts of keyboards exist so you can type lines of code or use Autocad commands without taking your hands off the keyboard, it has nothing to do with preventing RSI

>>106945332
seems like something that will give you a stroke. why subject yourself to it?

>>106945225 (OP)
Never used one but that shiny red bitch looks tempting

>>106945284
I don't know about that one but generally, yes
>how is the movement detected, with a mouse sensor?
Depends on the model. Some have one or two laser sensors, others have rollers like ball mice. I assume they use opto-isolators like ball mice but I wouldn't know, I've only ever had the laser kind

>>106945390
I do too. They don't, but neither compares to a real trackball.

>>106945422
Because virgins do that all the time

>>106945422
>seems like something that will give you a stroke
What?
also, rsi/ergonomics hell
It's essentially a macroboard shaped like a hand holding yours...Don't have to move your fingers much is the benefit

>>106945225 (OP)
I have an Elecom Deft and while I'm happy with it, I don't think it's actually better for your hands, it's just a different kind of strain than a mouse.

The real solutions are
- alternate between input methods (I use a mouse at work and a trackball at home)
- reduce mouse usage altogether in favor of hotkeys (I have an i3 + vimium + doom emacs setup)

>>106945314
>PINCH
your thumb should not be involved in making a left click.

>>106945686
Do you not understand how a vertical mouse works?

>>106945713
he's right tho. on a normal mouse you push index against the desk. on that weird shit you pinch thus also use your thumb.

>>106945723
Yes, that is the complaint.

>>106945433
word

>>106945686
I know because I own(ed) one
>>106945726
Always funny seeing anons agree but argue anyway

>>106945742
It came across as defense of vertical mice

>>106945726
I don't get it. anon made a correct statement here >>106945686 and then >>106945713 seemed to disagree, and then >>106945723 (me) agrees with >>106945686

>>106945763
I interpreted >>106945686
as "You should not have to pinch when using a vertical mouse"

>>106945769
ah, weird. I read it as "it's not recommended to use the thumb for left clicks", ergonomically speaking

Everyone at work used one so one day I let in. A decade and some change later I haven't used anything other than a trackball. Logitech M570 is the daily driver.

>>106945816
what kind of work you do?

>>106945822
CADD/CAM Engineer/Programmer

trackpoints mog trackballs, fast and accurate and has all the functionality of a mouse without taking up anymore space and your hands never need to move from your home row

>>106945844
curious if with hall effect keyboard you can use WASD instead. should be doable since it's basically a joystick

>>106945225 (OP)
I use a trackball. Where a regular mouse stresses my wrist, I find the trackball stresses my hand instead. Still mostly prefer the track ball.

>>106946656
>>106945225 (OP)
aren't these thumb trackballs especially bad for the thumb?

>>106946830
everyone itt is too retarded to understand this concept. it's all about load balancing

>>106945225 (OP)
Reddit gear, kys.

>>106946830
for basic shit like browsing it isn't a big deal, and the only game I play I use a controller so it's only if I'm working for 8 or more hours in a row that it starts to bother me.

i want one, but they're all 125Hz

>>106945723
Fake news
Your hand resting on the mouse itself already exerts a force that allows you to click with your thumb not touching the mouse
Do you need pics?

>>106945844
>trackpoints
>fast and accurate

>>106945225 (OP)
build one myself. using a 53mm poolball as the 'driver' with a 1000hz sensor. alignment of bearings perfect, unlike retail trackballs.

my main issue still is to find a comfortable thumb 'click' position. i like offloading the clicks to the keyboard for now.

mouse is still superior, since my indexfinger refuses to use one extensively, i had to switch.

>>106945314
>PINCH to click
this is only noticable when you first get a vertical mouse and then your muscles adjust. I dont notice it at all anymore, but I do get less strain due to lower rotation of the lower arm

>>106945536
>holding hands with his computer
gay incel

I still like my humble mx518, I don't hold my hand parallel to the desk, more like 45° and I never had problems.