Thread 106951451

>>106951451 (OP)
fucking retard

>>106951539
i don't think that you can dual boot anything but ubuntu anymore, windows will corrupt the partition.

>GRUB
who uses it? and for what purpose?

>>106951592
just have your linux install on a different SSD wtf

>>106951636
I have my Linux partition on its own drive where grub is installed which chainboots to either Linux or Windows.
The windows update altered my grub bootloader, not 100% sure what it did but before the previous windows update grub boot menu was 4k, matching my monitor, and now it appears maybe 1080, but I'm damn sure that couldn't have been the extent of the change.

just start puppy linux via live usb, and use the grub tool. works on my machine

>>106951724
Use the BIOS boot menu to switch between drives. Don't use GRUB or any other software for handling multiple OSes, especially if one of them is Windows.

>>106951724
keep your windows and linux installs fully separate on different drives, and use UEFI boot menu to boot to either one.
normal usecase is daily one, so you default to it in bios, and whenever you need the other just press the F key for bios boot menu at startup and like choose the other. it's literally that fucking easy.
and no, you do not need GRUB, at all, it's bloat.

>>106951636
>just isolate the winjeet malware bro
i didn't installed winshit on my baremetal for years
but i know it does these kinds of things.
my solution was to use it only via hypervisor, i will not go and buy new drive because they have horrible and intrusive shitware

>>106951451 (OP)
Windows seems to re-format the ESP whenever you modify partitions using the disk management utility and they probably reused these or similar routines in the update.
I don't know if your UEFI picks up on non-ef00 partitions when the drive is internal but you could try formatting a regular FAT32 partition and using that as /boot/efi. Windows should never destroy data on regular partitions.

I thought there'd be more people trying to GPU passthrough by now

>>106951779
>keep your windows and linux installs fully separate on different drives
That's what I said I'm already doing
>use UEFI boot menu to boot to either one.
Will this actually change anything though? From the perspective of the windows installation, it doesn't actually know if it's getting chain booted from grub or if I'm striking f12 every time, The windows boot Is completely left unchanged from chain booting, Windows has zero indication if I'm striking f12 to boot Windows or if I'm selecting it from a menu in grub.

I don't think your advice is that great, what has to be happening here is Windows is observing that there is another bootloader present on a disc in the same system And altering that bootloader, it doesn't actually know or even care if chain booting is enabled

>>106951847
needs igpu

>>106951861
>I don't think your advice is that great, what has to be happening here is Windows is observing that there is another bootloader present on a disc in the same system And altering that bootloader, it doesn't actually know or even care if chain booting is enabled
it's the best advice you'll ever going to get and it's for free as well, be grateful dimwit
boot a UKI directly from UEFI with a custom efi file name:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Unified_kernel_image#Directly_from_UEFI
problem solved cannot fuck it up. put it on /efi or /boot or wherever the fuck you want. no GRUB needed, and is the fastest boot in town as well.

>>106951724
windows updates will move windows to be #1 on the boot order.
so if you press f11 and select the linux SSD, it will be fine.
but sometimes, it's possible that you have a fucked up partition on the SSD. the way to check this is if you are not able to boot if you remove the other SSD. At that point just reinstall the OS unless you are a nerd and know how to fix it.

>>106951451 (OP)
GRUB > boot into Windows boot loader > boot into Windows from there. Don't think it is easy to boot from the Win boot loader into a Linux distro though, although I may be wrong.

>>106951847
windows has become too bloviated and not worth my cpu time

>>106951975
>windows updates will move windows to be #1 on the boot order.
that never happened for me.

>>106951847
gpu passthrough is autistic, and fun.
but there are a bunch of issues you need to fix if you want to game, and I don't think you can even play DRM / anticheat games unless you know the magic numbers to trick the software to think you are a real PC and not a VM.

>>106951451 (OP)
Put /boot/ on a USB key. Plug it in and then unplug it after boot. Use init scripts to unmount it automatically after booting. Solves this and so much more.

>>106951622
There's a case to be made that UEFI stub loading poses risks. Unless you mean you're still using LILO, which I do also but just because the install is very old and there's no reason to change anything. I doubt any didstro even still supports LILO even though no one needs more, anyway.

>>106951724
That guy telling you to isolate OSes to their own disks is just being honest. Unless you have a very good reason to have Linux and Windows share a drive, it's nothing but hassle dual booting from a single drive. Also, Microsoft has tools for reading EXTn filesystems. They just don't allow the public to use them. Spooky.

>>106952030
maybe you have a lock boot order feature in your bios.

it will also fuck up if you try to use fulldisk encryption with veracrypt occasionally, maybe they fixed it. I just stopped dual booting and use a separate mini pc entirely for Linux now

microsoft office changed doc format again haha you thought you could use openoffice behind my back did you

>>106951922
>boot a UKI directly from UEFI with a custom efi file name:
and you can also sign it so it works with secure boot

>>106951863
almost every cpu has an igpu, nigga.

>>106952247
I have a ryzen 7600f

>>106952247
this isn't true, 5950X doesn't have it

>>106952053
>There's a case to be made that UEFI stub loading poses risks. Unless you mean you're still using LILO, which I do also but
Slackware still has LILO by default. I installed Slackware 15 a month ago and couldn't boot because LILO doesn't work well with UEFI.

>>106952247
My 5800xt doesn't.
Wish it did.

>>106952053
>There's a case to be made that UEFI stub loading poses risks.

Has anyone had anything bad happen or not?

Stop dual booting you fucking retard.
Dualboot is a shitty hack that's not supported by ANY distro or ANY version of windows.
It's literally for poorshit povertyniggers that cant afford more than one computer.
>durr imma dual boot
>windows has bootloader self repair mechanism that repairs its own bootloader if it detects that it's missing or damaged during updates
>GRUB will overwrite any other bootloader during install
>this is not an issue for 99.9999999% of the planet since their computer came with and runs only the preinstalled OS for its entire life
>GRUB installer: lmao imma just delete the windows bootloader and overwrite it btw it's ok when i do it but not ms
>i sure hope the user is installing me on a single OS system and isn't a fucking brain dead dualboot nigger retard and knows i'd get overwritten by windows bootloader self repair
>windows bootloader self repair mechanism detects that windows bootloader is missing during an update and fixes it by recreating the windows bootloader, overwriting GRUB

>OMG WTF IT BROKE MY LUNIX EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A

>KNOWN

>WINDOWS

>REPAIR

>MECHANISM

>SINCE

>2006

>TWO THOUSAND FUCKING SIX

>ALMOST TWO FUCKING DECADES

>NOW I'M MAD BECAUSE I'M A BRAIN DEAD ILLITERATE NIGGER AND DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT A WINDOWS FEATURE THAT'S OLDER THAN I AM
>REEEEEEE WHY CANT M$ THINK ABOUT US 0.00001% DUALBOOTERS INSTEAD OF 99.9999% OF USERS WHO BUY COMPUTERS AND DONT INSTALL SHITTY HOBBYIST HACKS FOR CRITICAL COMPONENTS LIKE THE BOOTLOADER ON THEIR COMPUTER

Just install one OS, run the other in a VM, then kill yourself you stupid fucking technology illiterate zoomer NIGGER.

>>106951622
just use LILO

>>106952929
Works on my machine

>>106951451 (OP)
linux drive 1
win drive 2

always boot to drive 1, let grub boot windows- windows shouldn't touch drive 1.

>>106952978

ps: the trick is to have each on physically seperate drives- you can even encrypt linux to prevent additional fuckery

>>106953002
also ideally install windows first to drive 2, then let linux do the proper thing.

>>106952035
I have no issues, but it requires a higher skill level. Every now and then a game stumps me, but I eventually figure it out.

>>106952929
That's a lot of anger and outright wrong conclusions based on your own technical illiteracy. Sometimes you anons prove to me that it does indeed hurt to be stupid.

>>106951451 (OP)
Hey girl, I didn't read what the other faggy anons said, but here is the solution, if you HAVE to dualboot:
>Use 2 drives!
>Install Winshit on one drive
>Now install Loonix on the other
>But don't share the ESP/Boot
>Keep both systems completely seperated
>If you are too dumb for this
>Put in 1 drive at the time
>Now winshit and loonix have their own boot
>everything works
Note: If you keep both drives in during installation, it's very important that you install Windows first, because Windows will destroy the Linux boot partition, if it sees one.
Other note: You CAN dualboot on one drive, if you have UEFI, but again, you have to install Windows first and you might be too dumb, for manual partitioning.

I have Windows and two different Linux distros on the same drive without any problems, what are you guys doing?

>>106952053
>lso, Microsoft has tools for reading EXTn filesystems. They just don't allow the public to use them. Spooky.
Source? Because if it's internal only, that'd be funny.

>>106952929
>REEEEEEE WHY CANT M$ THINK ABOUT US 0.00001% DUALBOOTERS INSTEAD OF 99.9999% OF USERS WHO BUY COMPUTERS AND DONT INSTALL SHITTY HOBBYIST
Well... yes.

It's fucking stupid MS would repair their bootloader instead of seeing GRUB/LILO/et. al. and fucking respecting the BOOTLOADER THAT IS ALREADY THERE.

If the "custom bootloader" can fucking respect Windows being on the same partition as Linux, Windows should do the same.

Same shit where NTFS will corrupt the drive if it's seen by Linux. For as much as they "<3 Linux" they sure do make it an extreme pain in the ass to use their shit with Linux.

>>106951451 (OP)
efibootmgr and fix the boot order.

>>106954226
>partition
Drive*

But you get the point.

Don't have this problem on Windows 7.

>>106951622
Manjaro uses grub by default.
What's wrong with it?

>>106952929
>Just buy two 5090's because Microsoft is retarded

Why do you fags act like your computer would blow up if you keep using Win10

I can't install Windows 11 25H2 for some reason. Anyone else have this problem here? It's annoying.

>>106953707
That's exactly what I did and it worked so far.
My only problem is with Bitlocker requiring me to enter that 99999 digit recovery code again and again after every UEFI update and even after some Linux updates I think.

Also if you use Wifi, pro tip: make sure to SHUT DOWN Windows rather than hibernating it (which confusingly is the default behavior of the "shut down" button)
Otherwise Linux won't be able to use the Wifi card.

>>106954386
My computer don't allow me to update it

>>106951451 (OP)
Honestly, if you're going to dual boot, just keep Windows on its own drive. It's a lot less headache.

...except for when you go to reinstall Windows, and the installer fails (or, worse, installs the Windows bootloader to the wrong drive) because Windows detected an EFI partition on another drive, so then you have to disconnect all of your fucking drives for it to cleanly reinstall.

>>106954286
>doesn't have noefi kernel parameter
risky practice
also bcfg from efi shell always works

fuck it install windows xp, windows 11, linux and bsd on the same drive

>>106954226
>and fucking respecting the BOOTLOADER THAT IS ALREADY THERE.
>GRUB installer: lmao imma just delete the windows bootloader and overwrite it btw it's ok when i do it but not ms

>>106951451 (OP)
>>Windows Update raped GRUB (and itself) again
This has been a known issue for the past 20 something years.
>>106951724
>I have my Linux partition on its own drive where grub is installed which chainboots to either Linux or Windows.
You can get an SSD for like $30, there is no excuse to have Windows and Linux share a boot manager in 2025.
Have one SSD with ONLY Windows
Have another SSD with ONLY Linux
It isn't complicated
I promise Windows will not reach across to delete an EFI partition from a completely different drive.
This is 100% the solution to your problem, guaranteed. Just do it and stop being tarded.

>>106951451 (OP)
systemd boot doesn't have this issue

>>106951636
I'm too low IQ to manage to get that to work since there is no guides on how to do it. I tried several times and it always breaks my boot

What version of linux is good because i heard talk of Mint being one

>>106952053
>That guy telling you to isolate OSes to their own disks is just being honest.
>>106954945
>there is no excuse to have Windows and Linux share a boot manager in 2025.
I have no idea what was unclear in my original post when I said: >>106951724
>I have my Linux partition on its own drive where grub is installed which chainboots to either Linux or Windows
Linux is on its own disk.
Windows is on its own disk.
They each have their own boot manager.
the default boot manager is grub which has an entry to chainboot to the windows bootloader.

I don't know why I have to spell that out, it seemed perfectly obvious in what I originally wrote

>>106951451 (OP)
Should've debloated your Windows :^)

>>106955459
take out the linux ssd, install windows. take out windows ssd, install linux ssd, install linux, put windows ssd back in. now select which one you want to boot by default from bios. that's it.