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/usenet/ - Usenet Thread
Welcome to the 4chan /g/ Usenet General Thread!

>What is /usenet/?
Open standard protocols still exist and are what the internet was built on (http, irc, rss, ftp, etc). Not owned by corpos, not under govt control, and are accessible to anyone with an internet connection. They simply exist to be built upon and enjoyed by all.
Some, like FTP are outdated and insecure. Others, like rss, irc, http, usenet are still glorious and wonderful open standards. Join us and discuss such topics on one such protocol:
NNTP, aka usenet.

>WTF IS USENET
Literally it means the Users Network. It’s an open protocol for posting and reading messages, organized by newsgroups. It's entirely decentralized, no single server, impossible to take down.
Today it is split between, binaries and text. The binaries part is what it’s known for today: piracy. The text part is forgotten and abandoned, until now.

>WHY POST ON USENET
It's open protocol, you can use any client you want or build you own. No costs, no subscriptions, no money. You can sign up through your ISP, or through eternal-september.org. Then you just need to install a client.

>THIS IS OLDER THAN MY DAD. WHY TF WOULD I DO THIS?
Because it's comfy.
Because it’s decentralized.
Because instead of feeding some corpo AI bullshit like discord, reddit or whatever, you can have a conversation with like minded anons in an uncensored, decentralized, and fun hackerman way.

>DO I HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING?
No, you can use the aforementioned eternal-september.org with any client of your choice, or use the service of newsgrouper.org to access freely online (register to post).

>OK I’M IN - WHERE DO I POST!
Join us at alt.cyberpunk.tech!

WHAT CLIENT SHOULD I USE?
>Pan (gnome newsreader - Multiplat)
>Seamonkey
>Gnus for GNU Emacs
>Mozilla Thunderbird

>want to take a peek?
Online Based service @ newsgrouper.org is free and allows to post when registered. Also it can be used in any browser, even on Android!

Previous thread: >>106937478
Anonymous No.106971675 [Report] >>106979058 >>106979624
how 2 download anime via usenet?
Anonymous No.106971730 [Report] >>106971746
bump
cheers for getting me on usenet yesterday
t. future Ofcom rape victim
Anonymous No.106971746 [Report] >>106971754
>>106971730
OI OI OI YOU CHEEKY FOKIN WANKA DO YOU HAVE YOUR USENET LOICENSE!?
Anonymous No.106971754 [Report] >>106971771 >>106971903 >>106971981
>>106971746
come get me, faggot
i'll scoop your eyes out with an unregistered spoon
Anonymous No.106971771 [Report]
>>106971754
>with an unregistered spoon
GET THE FUCKING SAS WE GOT A TERRORIST ON OUR HANDS!
Anonymous No.106971903 [Report]
>>106971754
the most wanted man in london
Anonymous No.106971981 [Report]
>>106971754
cuckeirstarmer biggest enemy
Anonymous No.106971983 [Report] >>107003624 >>107004372
>>106971546 (OP)
>Because it’s decentralized.
Are you sure about that?
Back in the 90s, all usenet servers posted and fetched from other upstream servers that, in turn, fetched from the one main central server, some university somewhere.
Anonymous No.106972291 [Report] >>106972487
>>106971546 (OP)
so basically one dude leeches all media he can find then gives you access for $5/mo ?
Anonymous No.106972487 [Report] >>106972884
>>106972291
lulwut?
Anonymous No.106972878 [Report] >>106972944 >>106973051 >>106973441 >>106979644 >>106985089
>>106971546 (OP)
>alt.cyberpunk.tech
This started off as a fun group, but it recently devolved into just bitching about 4chan and not much else. Now it's just like a dead altchan where the only thing people talk about is "GRRR AT LEAST WE'RE NOT 4CHAN", then activity dies because they get tired of bitching about the same thing over and over. I know we've got problems here on /g/, but what's the point of ruining a cool group by obsessing over it?
Anonymous No.106972884 [Report] >>106973928
>>106972487
is this not how it works?
Anonymous No.106972944 [Report] >>106973051 >>106974603 >>106980089 >>106980860
>>106972878
This whole project has from the start been nothing more than the 4chan version of moving to Canada. It was never about going somewhere else to discuss things unmolested, it was always about running away from bad old 4chan - in fact, let's have a long discussion about all of 4chan's problems to the exclusion of anything else. Oh boy do I hate 4chan, wouldn't it be great if everyone left 4chan for the newsgroups? Yeah, let's go get everyone to do that...
And so on. That's why some moron made a thread on /tg/ about this same subject, which attracted zero interest last I checked. I'm all for having somewhere else to go if this place gets shuddered, but for fuck's sake don't make it so obvious that all you want to do is make an altchan.
Anonymous No.106973051 [Report] >>106973182 >>106973528
>>106972878
>>106972944
What did you expect from a usenet newsgroup? The cypherpunk movement is if not dead comatose. Talking both about developers and 4chan of old the entire crowd has moved on to different places long ago.
Anonymous No.106973182 [Report]
>>106973051
the problem is more fundamental, who still browses this place? mostly just completely demoralized people and actual npcs. not exactly fertile breeding ground especially not if discussion is carefully guided at first. you need to establish that it won't just be hurr 4chan bad all day but i don't see that working with usenet desu
Anonymous No.106973441 [Report]
>>106972878
Really? I think you had way too much coffee this morning. The main complaint is the captcha. Also: >>>/co/150908547
Anonymous No.106973528 [Report]
>>106973051
>The cypherpunk movement is if not dead comatose
Sad, many such cases.
Anonymous No.106973928 [Report] >>106974058
>>106972884
It's free (as in freedom)
Anonymous No.106974058 [Report]
>>106973928
how is it better than xdcc
Anonymous No.106974603 [Report] >>106975878
>>106972944
>nothing more than
You need to look closer, these two are very different.
4chan is ephemeral, threads wash out, at times because of people wanting to wash out a thread, but at least 4chan has images. Posters are normally anonymous.
Usenet News has much longer activity times, not limited to 10 pages, it is text only and no files or images. Posters are traditionally pseudonymous.
All in all I'd say these complement each other and cannot be competitors.
Anonymous No.106974624 [Report] >>106974630
stay the fuck out of usenet you filthy normies reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Anonymous No.106974630 [Report]
>>106974624
>normies
Anonymous No.106975878 [Report]
>>106974603
trvke
Anonymous No.106976387 [Report] >>106977438 >>106979214 >>106979665
Still no FTP server?
I have tons of stuff but I am not sure how I can safely share. I need something suitably anonymous.
Anonymous No.106977438 [Report] >>106977934
>>106976387
>FTP server
Usecase?
Anonymous No.106977934 [Report]
>>106977438
To hold files, retard.
Anonymous No.106979058 [Report]
>>106971546 (OP)
any 4chan/yt/meme sites like alternatives?
also >>106971675
Anonymous No.106979070 [Report]
has anyone uploaded binaries?
Anonymous No.106979214 [Report]
>>106976387
is ftp.uu.net down or something?
Anonymous No.106979469 [Report] >>106984436
>BAWWWWW I NEED MY FILES
Anonymous No.106979624 [Report] >>107000277
>>106971675
Find an indexer
Find a usenet provider
???
Something something nzb files
Boom!

Seriously though, get an indexer and provider (both paid for) and set up something like sabnzbd.
Anonymous No.106979644 [Report]
>>106972878
Anonymous No.106979665 [Report]
>>106976387
Have you tried sideloading it?

/reddit
Anonymous No.106979832 [Report]
>>106971546 (OP)
Didn't you guys try to do the same thing with Gopher protocol a few years ago?
Anonymous No.106979884 [Report] >>106981759
giganews + nzbgeek + nzbget + radarr + sonarr + plex = 100MB/s+ dl and worth every penny
Anonymous No.106980089 [Report]
>>106972944
It’s longer form discussion that’s free as in freedom and free as in beer. Not only is it purposefully non-ephemeral as the other anon brought up, it’s also a filter as zoomers, phoneposters and sub 80 IQs can’t even figure it out. Did I mention it’s ad free, cookie free, algorithm free, corpo free? I love 4chan. I’m as oldfag as you’ll find these days. I also like Usenet (I wrote the damn copypasta). I get you don’t want to just read about anons bitching about 4chan on usenet - I don’t either. So just don’t open that one, maybe two threads. Theres plenty of other topics to contriboot to and engage with or just start a new one
Anonymous No.106980793 [Report]
>usenet
>a.c.tech
Yep, am there.
Anonymous No.106980860 [Report] >>106982962
>>106971546 (OP)
So besides being freedom fighters what are we going to do there, with bunch of randoms herded from 4chan? Replicate our community generals but on usenet?


>>106972944
>4chan version of moving to Canada
I feel the same.
I'd keep in mind, zoomers' endlessly attempt to form "communities" that are about being communities, instead of having shared interests or goals.
>Yet another retro <community> based on what millennials did in 00's, but without any shared interest
Anonymous No.106980920 [Report] >>106981945 >>106984755
apart from the alt.cyberpunk.tech newsgroup, what others are there there that are interesting and active?

History?
Security?
Society / Politics?

What??
Anonymous No.106981759 [Report]
>>106979884
holy based
Anonymous No.106981771 [Report] >>106982731
>>106971546 (OP)
gopher general when?
Anonymous No.106981945 [Report] >>106982348
>>106980920
Me again and by the way, I struggled to get Pan working with Debian 12 - even older versions of Pan would not allow me to post. TB however just worked straight out of the box.

I tried Claws earlier too - that was problematic as well
Anonymous No.106982348 [Report] >>106983289 >>106991373
>>106981945
At least something works for you.

Rec.arts.tv is full of boomers
Alt.privacy has stuff

Activity of some here
https://newsgrouper.org/tops
Anonymous No.106982731 [Report]
>>106981771
When get a gemini protocol general.
Anonymous No.106982962 [Report]
>>106980860
>Yet another retro <community> based on what millennials did in 00's, but without any shared interest
I hate how common literal cargo culting is in basically everything related to tech.
Anonymous No.106983289 [Report]
>>106982348
>https://newsgrouper.org/tops
nice
Anonymous No.106984436 [Report]
>>106979469
how to redeem my files sir
Anonymous No.106984755 [Report] >>106987883 >>106991373
>>106980920
>others
/ham/ was proposed.
MasterKarsten No.106985089 [Report] >>106985155 >>106985343 >>106988823
>>106972878
I literally started it, and I have yet to see bitching about 4chan in it
Anonymous No.106985155 [Report] >>106985343
>>106985089
the only one whos has is some schizo that fucked off after nobody took the bait
Anonymous No.106985343 [Report] >>106985440 >>106988810 >>106989989 >>106998772
>>106985089
>>106985155
NTA, but I just looked through the few most recent threads and immediately found 4 examples:
https://newsgrouper.org/alt.cyberpunk.tech/1761239787/1761055809
https://newsgrouper.org/alt.cyberpunk.tech/1761239787/1761063288
https://newsgrouper.org/alt.cyberpunk.tech/1761239787/1761096310
https://newsgrouper.org/alt.cyberpunk.tech/1761240830/1760999544
I'm not going to waste my time looking at more threads, but they do sound kinda obsessed.
Anonymous No.106985440 [Report] >>106985481
>>106985343
that's 4 different people saying things we all know is true lmao
Anonymous No.106985481 [Report] >>106985509
>>106985440
>moving the goalposts
Anonymous No.106985509 [Report] >>106986523
>>106985481
Anonymous No.106986523 [Report]
>>106985509
gr8 b8
Anonymous No.106987883 [Report]
>>106984755
>/ham/
?
Anonymous No.106988810 [Report]
>>106985343

>be you
>posts the cancer
>pic related
Anonymous No.106988823 [Report]
>>106985089
Not even in gay enough to namefag. Dude!
Anonymous No.106988969 [Report] >>106990943 >>106992593
I've been lurking all week. It's comfy, but I don't feel like I have anything to contribute.
Anonymous No.106989140 [Report]
>>106971546 (OP)
Are there bots on Usenet? Is it the answer to bot infested normie web?
Anonymous No.106989141 [Report] >>106990399
>>106971546 (OP)
Are there bots on Usenet? Is it the answer to bot infested normie web?
Anonymous No.106989989 [Report]
>>106985343
Post screenshots.
Anonymous No.106990399 [Report] >>106993784 >>106999853
>>106989141
Not really. There's bots such as the one posting about Debian changes, but the spambots don't post on Usenet anymore. There's nothing technically stopping them from coming back, but I don't foresee any bots popping up except for maybe sharty spammers.
F L Uffy No.106990621 [Report]
meow
Anonymous No.106990943 [Report]
>>106988969
Just start a discussion on something. Or hunt out a not dead community and share it. Just lurk until you fancy. Good you're on board though.
Anonymous No.106991373 [Report]
>>106982348
>>106984755
Thanks
Anonymous No.106992593 [Report]
>>106988969
News postings are also good.
Anonymous No.106993287 [Report]
Too tired to contribute tonight. Will look at things when capable.

But yay usenet
Anonymous No.106993784 [Report]
>>106990399
>spambots don't post on Usenet anymore
good
Henrietta Pussycat No.106994159 [Report] >>106994377
meow meow
Anonymous No.106994377 [Report] >>106994876
>>106994159
>>>/c/at
Anonymous No.106994876 [Report] >>106995570 >>106995655
>>106994377
I came here from alt.tv.beavis-n-butthead (it's an anime and it's cute)
Anonymous No.106995570 [Report]
>>106994876
the manga was weird
Anonymous No.106995655 [Report]
>>106994876
what about the manga
Anonymous No.106995666 [Report] >>106995765 >>106999883 >>107002548
Does eternal-september ban you when they see that you entered a pseudonym and not a real name? (just hypothetically, practically there is no way of finding out, I think)
Anonymous No.106995765 [Report] >>106995922
>>106995666
It's run by a german isn't it?
Anonymous No.106995922 [Report] >>106997049
>>106995765
just enter names from the Berlin phonebook, I chose `Traugott Pfarrer'
Anonymous No.106997049 [Report] >>106997114
>>106995922
>Traugott Pfarrer
lol
Anonymous No.106997114 [Report]
>>106997049
Right up there with Hun D. Son.
The Presidents of the United States of America No.106998389 [Report]
meow meow meow
Anonymous No.106998772 [Report]
>>106985343
>t. transgender
Anonymous No.106999853 [Report] >>107009581
>>106990399
>There's bots such as the one posting about Debian changes
Where?
Anonymous No.106999883 [Report]
>>106995666
nope they dgaf
Anonymous No.107000277 [Report] >>107001536 >>107002135 >>107006347
>>106979624
>set up something like sabnzbd
Anyone distributing software as python project is an imbecile undeserving of the time that will be waste trying to install it
Anonymous No.107001536 [Report]
>>107000277
Blah blah blah
Anonymous No.107001793 [Report] >>107005276 >>107007972
buy my shirt
Anonymous No.107002135 [Report]
>>107000277
> filtered by needing to make a venv
ngmi lmfao
MasterKarsten No.107002548 [Report]
>>106995666
I didn't enter a real name. I guess It's just a requirement to give you a generated password
Anonymous No.107003624 [Report] >>107003680
>>106971983
No one answered this question. I find that interesting.

Hint: it's centralized.
Anonymous No.107003680 [Report]
>>107003624
>Hint: it's centralized.
Proofs?
Anonymous No.107004372 [Report]
>>106971983
No. However, bangnet was manually routed and ucbvax (you may think of) and seismo were som of them but it was never centralised.
Anonymous No.107005276 [Report]
>>107001793
looks great
would buy
Anonymous No.107006347 [Report]
>>107000277
holy trvke
Anonymous No.107007972 [Report]
>>107001793
link?
Anonymous No.107008000 [Report] >>107008240
seems we've attracted two bots or schizos
Anonymous No.107008240 [Report] >>107009419 >>107010602
>>107008000
This is what you have kill files for. Back in the day, some used RCS for their kill files. It was satisfying seeing trn slaughtering bots, pests and fools when entering a newsgroup.
Anonymous No.107009419 [Report]
>>107008240
>kill files
feels old man
Anonymous No.107009581 [Report]
>>106999853
linux.debian.changes.devel
Anonymous No.107010602 [Report]
>>107008240
kill files are way better than centralized moderation.
Anonymous No.107010804 [Report] >>107010844
>it's decentralised
>you can only access it through a usenet provider
this doesn't make sense to me
Anonymous No.107010844 [Report]
>>107010804
Every server gets a copy of every message.
There's no center.