Thread 106981619

>/g/ and countless tech blogs, podcasts, youtube channels shill dozens of Linux distros all the time to replace Windows
>yet most people end up using Linux Mint for replacing Windows on an old PC
Why?

>>106981619 (OP)
It works and the UI is not designed for use on a touchscreen.

>>106981619 (OP)
Name another distro normies who barely understood Windows would enjoy using that also has large compatibility with shit teir laptops AND doesn't look like windows 98

It's just reasonably close to windows UI wise and it's reasonably polished. Personally I'd recommend Xubuntu but either is fine. Kubuntu as well maybe.

It comes with a desktop environment that looks familiar to windows right out the box to ease people in

>>106981619 (OP)
>Why?
Because it has "Linux" in the name instead of UMBANGO or FAYDORA or GANTOO or CACHEEOS

>>106981619 (OP)
Entry-level distro with a graphic installer, and it's basically everything windows should be

>>106981647
Zorin

>>106981619 (OP)
Mint good

>>106981839
I'm sure it's a fine distro but the name is weird and that is half the battle. Linux Mint is a very simple yet powerful name. Think about it.

>>106981647
>welp this <distro> is trash because the sudden influx of people who are tired of Winslop constantly fucking up
>welp this <distro> is trash due to some reason I just made up in my head
You faggots are insufferable, you know that right?

>>106981855
It sounds find. Zorin is like mint but it doesn't look like it was made 30 years ago

>>106981886
Clearly you didn't think about it enough.

every distro I try has no fucking thumbnails in the file chooser. fuck gnome, ebussy or whoever is responsible for this shit

Ubuntu without snaps

>>106981904
gnome is responsible, they were paid off by microsoft. they hold gtk in ransom like its gnome toolkit not GIMP toolkit

>>106981619 (OP)
my grandma likes it

that alone would probably explain why because it's friendly to the tech illiterate

>>106981619 (OP)
Best for games according to grok

>>106981904
>thumbnails in the file chooser.
the thumbnails in Mint suck ass.
way too small and not possible to make them bigger for some reason.

>>106982040
the reason why I went for it.
[spoiler]and FDE[/spoiler]

>>106982040
>downstream of Ubuntu
>when Bazzite exists
couldn't be less true of any distro except for like debian stable

>>106982213
works on my machine

>>106981619 (OP)
Because it just works

>>106981619 (OP)
it just werks and doesn't use 900 extra gb of ram to struggle to do anything like ubuntu and its derivatives do, and doesnt require 900 years of your life to learn how to install a driver like every other distro series does

>>106981619 (OP)
Looks similar to windows, usually just werks, has a large enough community and history to be somewhat trustworthy in the long term, doesn't have retarded branding.

>>106981619 (OP)
it used in academia for teaching linux fundamentals since its closest to windows in appearance and it just works

>>106981619 (OP)
Linux Mint is the only non meme Linux distro.
Wrote this comment on Linux Mint by the way.

>>106981619 (OP)
It's not. In DW it's been superceded by CachyOS. Also MX is better.

I switched from Windows about three years ago and went with Ubuntu because there's lots of online help for it. Slowly I began to realise that the reason there's so much online help for it is because it's fucking awful and people constantly need help with it breaking. Also the default DE is so bad it blows my fucking mind. A month or so ago I hopped to a fresh Mint install and holy fuck the random small shit you can do that Ubuntu wouldn't let you do. I can right click my desktop and make text files instead of opening a terminal and using touch. I can right click my desktop and make fucking links to things holy shit. When I install a Steam game and run it the first time I can just double click it instead of having to right click and set as executable. So many small things that didn't make sense on Ubuntu just make sense on Mint.

Chances are most distros don't have these issues either so I'm sorta just ragging on Ubuntu here but Mint has been great so far.

The only issue I've run into is if I AFK long enough it'll sign me out, then when I sign back in I'll have a black screen with a cursor on it.

>>106981619 (OP)
Slow to update, rarely breaks.
Looks like Windows used to.
Not difficult to understand.

>>106981886
Also doesn't zorin ask for a donation before downloading?
>shit nigga i thot dis shit wuz free

i puted it on my laptop real quick for to use as a router to do monitor of the win 11 install

>>106981619 (OP)
>Designed for people who do not know how to do anything themself
>Tries to look like windows but pretend it is not doing so
>Bets on mob mentality praising it even if it is not worthy of praise
Simply put it is designed for very stupid people coming from Windows.
It's users will try to hide it and mask it by saying things like:
>i want stability
>i want to not use terminal
>i want not to configure txt files
and similar excuses even tough there str many distro which are not meant for morons and meet all those things except they are NOT designed for idiots.
>tl;dr
stupid people love stupid things

>>106981619 (OP)
it's good

>>106981619 (OP)
* gnu/systemd/linux

>>106983017
What distro would you recommend for a first time user then?

>>106983051
Gentoo

>>106983017
>there str many distro which are not meant for morons and meet all those things except they are NOT designed for idiots.
Such as

>>106983060
not me, random anonfag
>>106983051
>>106983122
There is a big difference between a average (stupid) first time user and a first time user.
You are Mint users, you belong where you are and nowhere else.
My comment had a point:
>stupid people love stupid things
which is Mint and there you belong

>>106981619 (OP)
mint ive found works on most hardware ive tried it on
i cant say the same for pretty much any other distro
i dont even use mint myself i just put it on computers i refurb and resell

>>106983137
Nice job of dodging the question

>>106983137
>he can't name a distro

>>106981619 (OP)
as good as ubuntu without the snap autism and also not as heavy feeling as gnome

>>106983146
>>106983159
For you to I can name Mint. Or better yet, Ubuntu, cuz why not, you're already using it with Mint, go straight to source.
Anything else would overwhelm you mind and make you puke incoherent babble with 0 truth or logic behind it.
For examp0le, if I've said use Arch, with let's say EndeavourOS as it IS stable, does not require terminal or manuel configs you would go in the full retard mode and say the following:
<insert you reply>

>>106981856
The Linux community is it's own worst enemy.

>>106983226
Ah yes let me use a tablet DE on a desktop gaming pc

>>106981619 (OP)
Its not. You're just an idiot who falls for anything e-celebs tell you.

>>106983137
Not a mint user, name the distro

><insert you reply>
>>106983239
>Ah yes let me use a tablet DE on a desktop gaming pc
Case in point- a complete retard who has no idea wtf is DE, tablet or a gaming PC.
Just stay on Mint and this should be screenshot and placed on Mint websites so your buddy brainlets will flock to it more.
to be really honest, Linux does not need you, you should have stayed on windows
>>106983256
>>106983226

>>106981855
I'm sure normies will love a distro named after a James Bond villain

>>106983259
I use Arch with Xfce, I do know how to install a desktop environment. Using ubuntu over mint has no advantages, only disadvantages.

>>106981619 (OP)
Looks like windows
Doesn't immediately sperg out and break if you install steam

That's IT
Can you believe every single other linux distro is totally incapable of this

>>106981839
nobody is paying for linux lol

>>106981619 (OP)
Because it's good?
Why are you such a stupid retarded tranny?

>>106981904
That was fixed almost 3 years ago, you need new material
https://www.omglinux.com/gnome-thumbnails-file-picker/

>>106983259
>to be really honest, Linux does not need you, you should have stayed on windows
You stupid fuck. Do you think people who start using Mint give a shit about Linux "needing them"? they do it because Microsoft is slowly making their OS a malvertisement filled ChatGPT with updates that break the device half the time.
People install Mint or other derivatives as a last resort not so they can become a part of your culture.

>>106981619 (OP)
>just works
>looks like windows out of the box
>extremely helpful little tutorial window with a few steps to back up your system regularly and a nudge to use to software center if you aren't comfy using the terminal
>fully GUI based system settings

Its just great, extremely stable with support for older kernels for a long time which gives people that stability and longer term use that windows lacks utterly.
Gaming, office work, mint does it flawlessly

>>106981647
>doesn't look like windows 98
Am I the only one who prefers the windows 98 style over modern ui? Windows 98 was peak function over form.

>>106981619 (OP)
My boomer family can use it without issue

>>106982905
Desktop is all right but try to install the latest Alacritty for example.
Or Cuda tools 13 (without breaking the system package manager).
It's incredibly hard to find real information about these issues outside arch wiki and obviously arch is a different thing when it comes down to package manager issues and so on.
Essentially Cuda 13 TOOLS (nvcc) can be installed using .run package and then it doesn't break anything but most of the retards online tell you to switch repository and then it will also overwrite your existing proprietary nvidia drivers and that will break everything.
There is always a simple and clean path but god forbid if you can't figure out it on your own, you are in world of shit because internet is so bad and there's countless of retards online who tell you to do this and that.

>>106981619 (OP)
because numbers
Most people on planet are stupid.
Most people who jump on Linux are by extension stupid
Most people use Mint and most of them (all to be honest) are stupid.

>60 replies in and nobody has mentioned quite possibly the biggest Mint shill of them all
sad

because Cinnamon is a discount Windows that is less buggy than KDE.

>>106984004
>stares at you awkwardly for three seconds every time the screen fades

bunga bunga

>>106981839
That distro is utter garbage.

>still no filepicker thumbnails
gnome is the microsoft of the linux world

>>106981619 (OP)
It's a distro that focuses on being usable by "normal" people. It's basically what Ubuntu was 20 years ago before Snaps and spyware and GNOME retardation. It also has a name that's not some unpronounceable gibberish, clean documentation, and lots of good word of mouth.
I've been on Mint Cinnamon for a while and I haven't really cared enough to distro hop, it has certain annoyances but it suits my needs just fine and doesn't break unless I do something completely retarded.

My mum's old laptop was shitting itself under the weight of Windows 10, and with it being out of support I installed Linux Mint on it. Laptop has a new lease of life and mum's happy because it's working as it should again and it looks familiar. If a 70+ year old technophobe woman can use it it's doing something right.

>>106985820
My dad was the same with mint, but he ended up switching back to Windows due to the lack of thumbnail view in gtk file chooser. Gnome has singlehandedly held back Linux from mainstream adoption for decades now

>>106981856
>Oh no, there's more than one option! This is bad! It's overwhelming me!
Now you see why everyone tells you retards to just use Linux Mint. Other distros are for people who know enough to want something different. But what is it with you retards freaking out over the mere existence of distros? Their existence doesn't affect you. Just use the normie distro and stop overwhelming yourself. Stupid bitch.

>>106985982
>Gnome has singlehandedly held back Linux from mainstream adoption for decades now
And that's a good thing, it filters out the retards.

>>106982049

Thumbails in the file picker will come eventually, GNOME has them already.

>>106986172
>And that's a good thing, it filters out the retards.
No it doesn't.

>>106986329
Still waiting

>>106981619 (OP)
>just werks
>sensible defaults
>isn't a pain in the ass to set up
>proprietary drivers aren't a clusterfuck to get a hold of

The Wi-Fi chip on my motherboard broke so I'm using a network card in one of the expansion slots. It uses some proprietary Broadcom driver that a lot of distros either don't come with or they have it but you have to know its name to get it. Meanwhile Linux Mint comes with an app that hunts down proprietary drivers for you.

>>106981647
>AND doesn't look like windows 98
what do you mean Mint doesn't look like windows 98?
Mint is just what 98->XP->now, would have been if Microsoft hadn't gone full retard.

>>106981647
Q4OS

I'm on Win 10 and I don't use Linux yet, but I'll hop soon when I'm done with what I'm working on.
I know fuckall about Linux, but Mint is the main option that people recommend. It looks to be close enough to Windows so the transition shouldn't be too jarring.
My and generally most people's idea of Linux over the years has been, that you need to enter the fucking Matrix to do anything and this Mint thing seems like it doesn't fall into that kind of turbo autism category, so it's the most approachable option.

>>106987458
SOVL

>>106981619 (OP)
It just works.

>>106981670
This is a large part of it, but it's also just comfortable transition.

i switched to linux mint to try due to win 11

what an abysmally dogshit os. everything is so sluggish its unreal guess if i was a poor fag and couldnt afford good hardware id use it but im not

>>106987580
yeah... like shit!

>>106987341

its gonna take a while but any DE using GTK will eventually get the GTK4 file picker with thumbnails.

>>106981619 (OP)
Works and hot hard to understand, ok?

Give me a Mint KDE and I'll leave OpenSUSE

>>106981619 (OP)
Nobody is forcing you to use it, OP. You're also a faggot, which may or may not play into this thread.

I'd rather use an immutable distro when they become popular.

>>106983060
unironically

>>106981619 (OP)
So can I ask some questions here?

I had a computer that I backed up to a ssd that was running Windows 7 home premium. I really want a new computer that runs the same operating system. It will be 100% offline so i figure I won't need to worry about viruses?

Is there a good way to have it on a new computer? Like just Win 7, or will it need to be virtual machine? Would it be best just to buy an old computer from around 2011 and install ssd? I worry about motherboards and other parts wearing out or getting too old.

>>106989597
Also can Microsoft spy on a virtual machine running win 7?

>>106989597
You will most likely run into a lot of drivers problem on modern hardware. It's better to stick to slightly older parts that have proper driver support on win 7.

Linux Mint is a modern Windows 7, and that's a good thing.

Also, Cinnamon proves that the traditional desktop metaphor is the ultimate GUI design.

>>106981619 (OP)
because it werks.

>>106984004
At least it's a person who actually talks about technology. Way better than the jeets, chinks and ruskies that flood /g/ with their meme distros.

>>106981895
Lol

For me it's LMDE.

To this day, Cinnamon is the most elegant DE there is on Linux. I use Arch but I still use Cinnamon. It doesn't surprise me why Mint is popular.

>>106981619 (OP)
Cinnamon looks fantastic

>>106983017
you should kys

>>106983017
yeah you're a real fuckin intellectual aren'tcha xister

>>106981619 (OP)
it's retard-friendly like winblows

>>106990871
>To this day, Cinnamon is the most elegant DE there is on Linux.
You mean KDE

>>106981856
>missed the entire point
>come up with a lame ass strawman

>>106986055
>missed the entire point of the post
>come up with a lame ass strawman to sound intelligent
ok faggot.

>>106981619 (OP)
Similar UI, and simple to use. Doesn't break like other more cutting edge distros would, and for most people that's what they want.

>>106981936
>gnome is responsible, they were paid off by microsoft.
source?

>windows killer
Linux is literally malware.

>>106983051
buddy, it's mint. Ignore all these faggots and just install mint.
>t.used debian daily for 15 years

I installed Linux in the year 1999
Linux Mint is the best version of it
going out of your way to make a task difficult doesn't make you smart, it actually makes you an idiot
>muh i wanna do it myself
okay so do the math yourself, what the fuck are you on a computer for? nigger

>>106985781
Ubuntu really is so god damn retarded. I made the mistake earlier this year of committing to an install, I hadn't used it since maybe 2014 and was expecting some unity nostalgia and the simple stable way it was back in the day well fuck me

>Bunch of packages are snap
>bunch aren't
>updates are a pain in the ass from this
>constant update alert
>Gnome by default pimped to look like unity minus the comfy functionality of it

Apparently there is a classic unity project for ubuntu but I'm just going to use arch or debian next time and cut out the middle man

>>106983017
There are people smarter than you don't want to invest time into the HOBBY you enjoy. What am absolute pseud you are.

and for all the "Linux guys" who hate on snap

uhhhhh just build it from github? stupid nigger motherfuckers. You know so much about Linux but you are bound to the "software center"?

>>106991894
>snap literally has no reason to exist
yeah we know thats why snap is retarded

>>106991906
so remove it? Surely takes less time to remove snap than it does to add a million things (including fucking sudo) to debian to make it passable as a desktop os

>>106986172
Gaming becoming decent on Linux will open the floodgates for undesirables more than anything else.

>>106981651
xubuntu website got hacked. just like mint. link downloads malware crypto vaccum

nothing matters use whatever stop chasing affirmations from strangers </blog>

>>106992503
>but but but at least I will know EVERYTHING I did to my computer!
Seems the negatives outweigh the positives, when the name of the game is,
>Keep It Simple Stupid
And people want a functional item out of the box ready to go while still offering the benefits of not being burdened with Microslop malvertisement software

weird that xubuntu and mint, which are the two best distros websites got hacked
two words: it was Israel that did it to make them look bad

>>106992595
Which goes to prove: always perform checksum hash verification and always check the pgp signing key on the checksum file.
(Of course that still means you're fucked as a first-time user, if those instructions are altered on the compromised website as well.)

>>106992561
>xubuntu website got hacked
Wordpress moment. Also apparently the site/infrastructure is managed by Canonical so it wasn't even the xubuntu team that fucked up.
Hilarious how badly the hacker blundered that. They could've tried to sneak malware into the ISO, but made the most obviously suspicious windows program, which didn't even infect you unless you clicked a specific button, and fooled zero (0) people before being caught.

>He install Linux
>Expects some gay Desktop Environment for retards instead of using the Terminal
>OMG WHY CANT I RIGHT CLICK AND DO EVERYTHING LINUX SUX GUISE!

do you ctrl alt t at Taco Bell to manually type in my order? (number 8 add jalapenos, baja blast, 2 bean burritos, fire sauce)

>>106992595
that's eleven words.
>Two words: The JEWS
many such cases.

>>106981839
>Zorin OS
What a view

>>106981619 (OP)
Propaganda.

>>106991884
>Investing 5-10 minutes of time per month on average is considered "wasting time" when result is heaving superior experience.
Such imbecile...

I have yet to find a better mom-proof distro for her to use on her old laptop that she doesn't want to throw away because it "isn't broken".

Total cinnamon supremacy.

>>106992595
Linux Mint is unironically anti-zionism before it was cool. Makes you think.

Why is it that everybody in /g/ only talks of choosing one OS or another? Is dual boot obsolete?

>>106989597
Mint + Wine

Linux users are the kind of unsupervised asperger children that will obsess over minutia instead of worrying about finishing high school, college, finding a job, taking care of their health, or literally anything else that fucking matters. There are people who use stock Windows and are more successful than you in life, such as your friends if you have any.

>>106993959
Their parents won't buy them another drive

>>106991726
They can't even replicate the most rudimentary and basic theme from Windows on a Linux desktop environment if they tried.

>>106981619 (OP)
it has a cohesive GUI that doesn't try and reinvent the wheel or break every 5 mins it's just rock solid

>mint look and feels like win7
that's the usp for the common man.

to the rest of us; mint is the distro manifestation of the jeet philosophy of jugaad

>>106996236
>t. gupta bramashivan

>>106993959
>Is dual boot obsolete?
dual boot is just annoying
all you need is 1 pc running 1 os

>>106983363
I agree with you

>>106981619 (OP)
because its easy to use and I use it myself

>>106997553
use arch instead

>>106992585
Anon is talking about Ubuntu. Which is what Mint is based on. It's a decent, normie-friendly distro. But a lot of people hate it because of the organization who runs it, I guess. I've never used it.
>>106997553
It's what I recommend to everyone who's trying out Linux for the first time even though I don't use it myself.

>>106997581
I used to for years, its gay. breaking updates that are needlessly huge

>>106997622
skill issue

>>106981619 (OP)
>>yet most people end up using Linux Mint
This is provably false. Why is Linux mint paying some desperate fucking Indian to post marketer speak about it?

>>106997652
retard, get a job

>>106997667
>broke his install
>calls someone else a retard
kek

>>106981619 (OP)
>>106997664
It was true for a while, now most people use CachyOS since it's better for gaming

>>106981619 (OP)
WAYLAND SUPPORT WHEN???
Come on devs! Just get to it already!

>>106997725
Switch to Arch

ip count was removed for threads like this

>>106997828
It was removed because Hiro got tired of retards spamming "IP count didn't go up" when losing arguments in threads with 70+ IPs

>>106997707
>most people use CachyOS since it's better for gaming
Lol nobody uses CachyOS except for gamers. Linux Mint and Ubuntu still dominate.

>>106997919
CachyOS is dominating right now, as is Arch in general. You're stuck in the past.

>>106997885
>Hiro
>he thinks the Chinese guy has ANYTHING to do with this site in 2015+10
I doubt he remembers he owns it more than once a week.
The Negro/Jeet hybrid and a few trannies have executive power.

>>106997931
>CachyOS is dominating right now, as is Arch in general. You're stuck in the past.
You trannies say the same thing about Bazzite and Nobara

>>106996807
As if all the shitskin pandering doesn't come from libtard trannyware open source devs. Didn't they ban that cuckservative linux youtube guy from even being mentioned on the Mint forums or something?

>>106998072
Before we continue, post your distro and its official statement on Israel

>>106998123
>deflecting
mint

>>106998130
Why are you using what you consider to be "libshit trannyware"?

>>106998143
>continued deflecting
Why wont you answer the question you stupid faggot? You argue like a lying zigger.

>>106998162
You're a dishonest faggot, you deserve nothing.

>>106981619 (OP)
tiktok redpilled zoomers about israel lmao

>>106981619 (OP)
Why OP is gay and likes to serve homeless men for free.
Why?
I dont understand why he is into that, can someone help me understand?

>>106997951
>Fedora
Arch is different, it's the one that's actually going to stick since it's the obvious best platform

>>106982213
bazzite is downstream of FEDora lmao