Thread 107130401

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut

>RAM
*Prices and therefore recommendations are for the time being in flux
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb (~$270)
-Used: 2060 Super, 2070, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), Gigabyte MO27Q28G or LG 27GX700A-B (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

I'm phone posting and it won't let me delete my first attempt

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Omissions
-9800X3D: ~10% improvement in gaming over a 7800X3D (which is still in production)
-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, consider cheaper second hand options like the 3080
-9070: Currently more expensive than the 5070
-"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performance

Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

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>>107125862
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>>107122889

First for best waifu.

anyone got any good planning tools for making your battlestation? i don't mean the PC itself, more like is there anything that can let you compare desks to put it on

The 96GB RAM kit I got yesterday has already gone up $20.

Romanian anon here, just ordered all the parts for my 7700 + 9060 build, thank you /pcbg/ for helping me clear out some of the doubts I had

>>107130478
How much did you pay for dat, anon ?
I'm desperate at this point

>Non-OLED
>4k
>31in or larger, ideally 34-36in
>Supports hardware color calibration
>has at least 95% DCIP3 and Adobe RGB Coverage, ideally with both over 97%
>Supports VRR
>Ideally 72, 90, or 120+hz, but I'm fine with 60hz as long as VRR works between 30 and 60fps
>Is under 2000$ roughly, ideally under $1500 or even less
>Ideally doesn't have terrible response times

Or giving up on hardware color calibration, if the Adobe RGB coverage is 99%-100%?

The closest ones I've found are the Asus Proart PA32UCDM (perfect, aside from maybe the Adobe RGB coverage, but it's OLED and I worry about burn in), some of the Proart PA32UCX (only issue is they're 60hz and 5ms response time gray to gray, not sure what its VRR range is), the Samsung Odyssey G7/G70B S32BG70 (but it lacks hardware calibration, I assume) and the Gigabyte AORUS FV43U (which is nearly perfect, aside from no hardware calibration I assume and the fact it's fucking huge, 43in)

>>107130446
I have my computer on with static UI elements up for 16ish hours a day, I really wouldn't want to risk it, especially since the PA32UCDM costs $2000.

>>107130478
>>107130520
I bought a 96gb kit a few months ago for 160$, very glad I did.

Are there any monitors that exist with all of or nearly all of the following features:

>Non-OLED
>4k
>31in or larger, ideally 34-36in
>Supports hardware color calibration
>has at least 95% DCIP3 and Adobe RGB Coverage, ideally with both over 97%
>Supports VRR
>Ideally 72, 90, or 120+hz, but I'm fine with 60hz as long as VRR works between 30 and 60fps
>Is under 2000$ roughly, ideally under $1500 or even less
>Ideally doesn't have terrible response times

Or giving up on hardware color calibration, if the Adobe RGB coverage is 99%-100%?

The closest ones I've found are the Asus Proart PA32UCDM (perfect, aside from maybe the Adobe RGB coverage, but it's OLED and I worry about burn in), some of the Proart PA32UCX (only issue is they're 60hz and 5ms response time gray to gray, not sure what its VRR range is), the Samsung Odyssey G7/G70B S32BG70 (but it lacks hardware calibration, I assume) and the Gigabyte AORUS FV43U (which is nearly perfect, aside from no hardware calibration I assume and the fact it's fucking huge, 43in)

>>107130446
I have my computer on with static UI elements up for 16ish hours a day, I really wouldn't want to risk it, especially since the PA32UCDM costs $2000.

>>107130478
>>107130520
I bought a 96gb kit a few months ago for 160$, very glad I did.

test

>>107130511
I hope you didn't get raped on the RAM prices. God speed desu

>>107130476
Go to a furniture store and try them?

>>107130511
do keep us posted with the build log desu

When will RAM prices return to normal?
Most kits more than doubled in price recently.

Intel/Nvidia best combo

>>107130802
prices usually have a downward trend during the (european) summer (jun-aug)

I will post Jay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOFN7kljlA8
Because at least a big name youtuber is finally addressing the massive AIR COOLER GOOD ENOUGH problem

>>107130802
ram usually spikes up in price due to chip shortages, but now ai fags want them en masse, so probably never until the bubble bursts

>>107130825
not a single graph or data points in that 20 minute gay ass video

>>107130802
I hope this helps.

Completed it on AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT, now playing the sequel, also still need to finish RoboCop Rogue City: Unfinished Buisness.

I connected some basic $15 speakers to this Creative Soundblaster I had laying around and I think it sounds better than integrated audio. Is that possible or am I having audiophile hallucinations?

>>107130586
Got ram before an increase
>>107130689
I'll update you, I'm now waiting for parts to ship.

be quiet! Pure Power 13 M 750W
Lian Li LANCOOL 216
Do I hit buy already? Been idling on this for 12 hours

I need help. I know I probably won't get it since 4chan is slow nowadays and there's an attention economy but it sucks that I cannot ever decide. Been two years I've spent with my parts in boxes because I couldn't decide on a case or a psu.

will i regret if i wait 1+ year to build a new pc? heard ram and ssds will get expensive

>>107131044
Can't speak for the PSU but I have that case (in white) and it's pretty nice, though I hear there's a slightly newer 217 now.

>>107131054
>though I hear there's a slightly newer 217 now.
turns out it's just aesthetics with shittier cooling

Intel and Nvidia is best combo

>>107131044
>Been two years I've spent with my parts in boxes because I couldn't decide on a case or a psu.
holy shit you're retarded, order it already

>>107131044
750w is a bit on the low-end nowadays in terms of wattage, but the model is good

>>107130511
oh yeah we remember you
keep us posted

>>107131142
>>107131139
THE PUS IS LOCKED IN
i won't go back, my gpu and cooler for cpu is already one the lowest noise profile, my only issue is the case, do I hit order?
Reviews says it's very noisy in full load but that it's noisy because it's overkill and that I should curve optimize it for most tasks, especially in my currency it's the best bang for the buck by like a million miles

>>107130478
Literally any bin of Hynix ram is pure gold at this point
The current market is just as fucked as when ddr5 just launched back in 2021/2022

>>107131174
please help with the case I WANT TO ORDER THIS SHIT it's been 2 fucking years, my gpu is not even modern anymore, bought it replace it in 2 -3 years and now it's been 2 years.

I just need an OK on the case of two - three quick alternatives for me to check if they are above this.

>>107130802
The last ram shortage lasted well over a year and that was before AI grifters were on the scene. I'd expect the current one to last just as long as the minimum.

I want to drastically undervolt and power limit my GPU but don't want to do all the trial and error work from scratch, how can I see the stock (stable) voltage/frequency curve that's built into the VBIOS?

>>107131200
When was that? I don't really remember.

>>107131212
Around 2017 to 2019
My 2x16gb 3200cl16 kit cost me $380 back then

>>107131212
It started in 2017

>>107131206
In adrenalin settings panel or msi afterburner if you have a novideo

>>107131199
well I guess I'll return to it bf 2026 lol

>>107130476
ikea has a 3d room planner where you can place most of their catalogue

https://x.com/unikoshardware/status/1986674389300224279

RTX 50 SUPER SERIES CANCELLED - NO 3GB MODULES DUE TO DRAM/VRAM SHORTAGE

CURRENT CARDS WILL HAVE THEIR PRICES JACKED UP VERY SOON JUST LIKE RAM IS NOW


Okay

I'm done waiting

I'm building this month then fucking off this entire general for 10 years

FUCK THE EARTH

BUY NOW

IF YOU NEED TO BUILD NOW DO IT NOW

2026 IS GOING TO BE A FUCKING SHITSHOW

>>107131321
GRIM

>>107131219
>>107131220
Now I remember dreaming about a Ryzen 1 or 2 build and seeing $250 for 16 gb ddr4

I'm not even kidding I do believe building a PC next year will be generally impossible from parts availability, hiked pricing and the new launches coming at the end of the year if they even have the capacity to make them, they're already saying they are facing shortages. This windows changeover is making shit worse too. Paying an extra $100 for ram may be the best situation for at least a year

>>107131321
not like this waitbros...
8gb chads win again

>>107131199
I've ordered it.

>>107131321
There are 3gb modules - they are just all 100% going to DC cards and none are going to consumer so no Super series
Nvidia has AI profits to care about not gaming that literally makes less money for nvidia than selling ethernet cables

Can the AI bubble just burst already bro

>>107131321
lol
4090 dont fail me now

i've been postponing buying a PC for years because graphics card prices were straight up robbery, now DDR prices shoots up 2.5x it's lowest value

>>107131354
>selling ethernet cables
200gbit and 400gbit switches*

>>107130825
>the massive AIR COOLER GOOD ENOUGH problem
What problem?
>link
>"words words words, misuse of "logarithmic""
OK, that's nice. A thermalright peerless assassin mini gets exactly the same number of frames in every game as a 2x420mm custom loop while probably making less noise.

If you need HEDT CPU performance, there are multiple TRX-50 tower coolers which you can even overclock with.

Liquid cooling enables no meaningful extra capabilities over air cooling except physical density in datacenters.

>>107131222
I have an AMD card (7900GRE) and I'm on Linux (but I don't remember ever seeing something like that in Ardenalin either). I can change some power states using LACT but the curve offered much more fine control. I do remember seeing it in Afterburner last time I had an Nvidia card (1070).

>>107131394
It's AI causing a pinch in supply. The layoffs have already begun. Don't be a panican.

I ordered a 2*16 kit early that's declared "out of stock" on amazon
I guess I'll be getting it early 2026 if I'm lucky

I have a nuc extreme element that gets pretty hot (i9 11900kb)
do you guys think putting phone cooler on its backside would be a good idea?
also are magnets still bad for pcs ?

>>107131512
Doesn't seem like it'll work that well. I tried something like that before with my 3080's vram and it didn't make a lick of difference
What about strapping a tower air cooler onto the cpu die and foregoing the sff form factor?

im trying to figure out what monitor to buy. I looked at the doc list. just trying to get main monitor 27 inch 1440p not oled or any burn in types , was thinking the aoc one

>>107131206
>how can I see the stock (stable) voltage/frequency curve that's built into the VBIOS?
manufacturers never show you the voltage/frequency curve because people would complain about losing the silicon lottery and return their cards

>>107131592
ah i see, damn
>What about strapping a tower air cooler onto the cpu die and foregoing the sff form factor?
I'd have to take out the gpu or use it with a riser cable outside of the case

>>107131615
what doc list, friendly anon?

>>107131621
If that were the case every card would have a different VBIOS and there would be zero overclocking headroom left. The stock curve is just what even the shittiest bin will run at without issue.

are storage prices good right now? or also fucked
i'm out of the loop

>>107131713
the monitor hunter google doc list of monitors
im thinking aoc q27g3xmn

Can I put a PCIe 5.0 x4 ssd into a PCIe 5.0 x4 slot?

>>107131747
maybe

>>107131747
yea but don't complain about mustard gas later

>>107131429
I have a view like this in corectrl

>>107130401 (OP)
new rig running good

apparently there is a aoc g40 which is a upgraded version but then there is some panel lottery bullshit where you may or may not get some bugged dimming thing. baka, just want a monitor bro

>>107131849
this is giving me ram prices ptsd

>>107131747
No, because your PCI-E 5.0 x4 SSD is actually an M.2 NVMe interface. It's just electronically wired for PCI-E 5.0 x4 lanes of bandwidth.
Your PCI-E 5.0 x4 SSD needs to go into an M.2 NVMe slot.

You can purchase an adapter card to convert you PCI-E 5.0 x4 motherboard slot into a tray that can hold your PCI-E 5.0 x4 SSD and get full performance if the motherboard slot has x4 lanes of bandwidth but if you try plugging the M.2 drive into your PCI-E slot directly like slotting in a graphics card or something you're just going to break something becuse the pins aren't compatible.

>>107131730
Nah those got fucked in September too. Not as badly as ram but they cost more than earlier this year. SSDs are still normal priced, for now. Samsung and Micron have both said NAND prices will also be going up and there's coming shortages too.

>>107131936
return the 5080 and buy a 4090/5090

>>107132012
I'd love to, but god damn it's literally more than twice the price of the 5080.

>>107131615
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#A=2,5&C=0&D=160000,600000&F=685800000&P=2&r=256001440
Does that help at all?
27" IPS 166hz+ 1440p
Select your country then order by price and start checking those in your budget.

>>107131936
>850 EVO

it's crazy are those drives are still alive. My Dad's still using his kek

How big of a difference does an AIO liquid cooler makes vs a regular CPU fan?
I'm planning a build with a 7600X and either a 9060xt 16gb or a 4070 depending on black friday deals and availability.

>>107132048
thermalright got your back for 40€ for that chip

>>107132048
You do not need an AIO for that. You can just use the cooler it comes with or get something better looking and more performant for $30. An AIO would solely be for aesthetics

>>107132048
You can still find a 4070? Everything besides 4060s seems to disappeared like it never existed here

>>107132069
Brainfart, I meant a 5070. I'm still looking at benchmarks and deciding which is better for me because I plan to play at 1080p 60hz (I don't need more)
>>107132051
>>107132055
Thanks anon, I'll just go for a regular fan then.

>>107132087
>I plan to play at 1080p 60hz (I don't need more)
cast your shackles away anon, its 2026
1440p is right there, the card you would get, either of them is a 1440p card
Its time to let go

>>107131719
VF only loosely depends on vbios. Vbios merely sets the +25mhz offset of oc cards on top of the native vf curve that's different across every piece of silicon

>>107130401 (OP)
What's a good miniled I can buy in Europe?

>>107132137
>good miniled
no such thing
not enough dimming zones

>>107132046
Still going good

>>107132184
Ordered two teras flash cards still look like I scammed someone shit don't work but the ai loves the extra space

>>107132184
No reason to fix what isn't broken.

>>107132214
Even my HDD from 2008 or so is still going strong. I'm lucky when it comes to disks

>>107130825
Good stuff showing again why ITX is useless and TDP is a lie

>>107130802
>When will RAM prices return to normal?
Open AI is buying DRAM wafers direct from the source. The wafers. Not even split into chips yet. About 90% of the wafer becomes chips. That are buying 10% waste. That's how fucked and choked supply is. You guys really have to understand the insanity going on.

Should I just give up on getting a PC now
Should I just fomo in on these ram prices

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CTHXMYL8?psc=1
This was 1$41 last night and now it's $181 for 2 16GB


I don't have a PC really I'm still picking out parts

>>107132415
If you give up now you'll be giving up for a least this time next year. If you can do a whole year on what you've got I'd hold out until at least Zen6/Nova Lake.

>>107132415
it's 40 bucks nigga that's like 2 pizzas

Lads. My newly built pc wont start at all. The psu fan spins a bit when i press the psu power button. Same with the cpu fan. But nothing else works. Not even the power button attached to the mobo.
Tried reinstalling all parts but nothing happens. Mobo brackets ok.
Any clues? File size too large for upload here.
https://i.imgur.com/y7zSDGe.jpeg

Whats the consensus for people who are looking to upgrade their gpu? If the 5080 super is around the corner is that likely to be a better price for performance than getting a regular 5080 after the super releases?

>>107132465
Are you sure those are the correct slots? Basically every board out there will tell you to run dual sticks in A2/B2 and you have them in the A1/B1 slots

>>107132475
>5080 super is around the corner
yeah about that...>>107131321

>>107132425
What if I only buy 1 16gb now? Ram works with one stick right? I know there's a performance hit or something but I don't know how much
Will it really not be lower than this for a year? I might not even need 32GB.
If prices are back to normal in a few months I could get 3 more 16gb for the same price as 1 now

>>107132465
You are using wrong DIMM slots for sure you can even see it on the silkscreen. So start with that.

>>107132458
see >>107132494
>>107132477

with that oversight you should really check all your connections again

>>107132487
oh... okay
My second question then, whats a general good price drop percentage for gpus? They rarely seem to be reduced by much but then im not looking for them all year.

>>107132488
RAM will still work even if you've got 16GB of it.
16GB is pretty low these days. I don't think it's low enough to be a massive issue, but if the choice is between 16GB and 0GB, 16 is the better option.

>>107131048
Sort of. Depends on how shitty your current PC is. 1+ year is a long time to go without a decent computer.

>>107131321
FUCK. BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY

>>107132477
Yeah i did that before. I tried this config but that aint working either

wtf i just saw that gta6 got delayed
i saw it yesterday on 4chan but i thought it was a meme
it's actually true

>>107132563
wrong board

>RTX 5000 SUPER CANCELLED
GET FUCKED WAITFAGS

>>107131431
But the layoffs mean AI is working...

So after 6000/30CL what are the go to ram speeds for am5?
Im not that worried about the price i dont mind paying extra, shit is what it is, but there is literal shortages and i dont want to wait.
So 6200 or 6400 36 CL?

>>107132627
Not cancelled just more expensive

>>107132415
the dollar will crash before 2030
you better buy some physical gold

This doesn't make sense tho
If the world needs more ram open more ram factories? Its that easy

>>107132458
Did you plug in the 8-pin cpu power cable? In the top left corner.

>>107132716
Yep. Tough cable to aim but its there

>>107132633
6000 CL30 was the go to because you could reliably achieve those settings on 2 DIMM systems and those came with hynix a die for good OC potential. Going higher than that will switch to 1:2 divider mode for UCLK/MCLK by default. This will cause performance decrease.
1:1 mode for higher RAM frequency than 3000MHz is just silicon lottery.
If you care about min-maxing you should still manually set subtimings.
Changing CL alone doesn't do much in terms of real life performance so don't bother with finding kit with the lowest CL if you are going to simply use XMP.

Anyone use Powerspec PCs? They're pre-builts from Microcenter using regular non custom parts. Was considering just buy something that's plug and play instead of bothering to build. They also have another build that's identical to this but with a 5070Ti for $200 cheaper

>>107130401 (OP)
ATX is too big!!!
mATX is too big too!!!!
mini Bros!! where are we in the Op?
the op pic scares meee

What is the best air cooler under $100 that'll cool 250 Watts

>>107132790
Arctic 360mm Freezer Pro III. Like $90

What motherboard am I supposed to get there's no info whatsoever on this in the op other than to not get asrock

>>107132807
but whatever is the cheapest option that fits your use case that isn't ASrock.

>>107132692
its all made in korea/taiwan.

>>107132807
Decide what PBO settings you want to run and then find a VRM that will provide the current without overheating

>>107132812
qrd on asrock mobo?

>>107132826
any half way decent motherboard should be able to provide PBO settings without overheating unless you're sticking a 9800X3D inside like an A series motherboard with no VRM cooling at all
>>107132838
Their motherboards started killing CPUs especially the 3D chipset CPUs. Some were saying it was due to various BIOS settings and ASrock responded with like 7 different BIOS "fixes" by now and they're still randomly cooking people's shit.

>>107132737
run the parts through pcpp and decide if the markup is worth it?
do you have a link to the offer?

>>107132807
cheapest b850 that has a bunch of positive reviews and has enough connectors for your shit
99% of the time thats all of them so again
cheapest one with a bunch of positive reviews

why are colors so dim and washed out on radeon?

>>107132886
you mean nvidia they have worse color space

>>107132898
radeon just has a much worse color gamut and they're very dim, HDR sucks on radeon too
proven time and time again with accurate tests

>>107132910
yeah, artistic professionals like graphic designers all use NVIDIA because of radeon's borked colors

I can confirm, both my gaming pcs only output in grayscale

>>107132812
>>107132868
I guess this gigabyte then for 149

I got logged out of my graphics driver and I can't log back in until my parents come home

Eyey /pcbg/ anon here that bought 5060ti 16gb maybe few thread ago or so it was just installed and i will try some games to see how they play and thats all and thanks.
Just tried Ark as benchmark (yeah i know the size but i dont play that much of modern games) and MAN at everything maxed + toggling some long distance high quality LODs it was ~60fps and without that long distance shit it is 100+
Also regarding the monitor it dosent matter what kind of adapter im going to use ? Or does it matter since i have some cheap ones.

>>107132277
>You guys really have to understand the insanity going on.
Meh I'm a patient man. Give it long enough and the demand will pass and we will be left with massive oversupply and dirt cheap prices. It's a pain in the ass each time you build a PC you get fucked on at least one component.

>>107132737
>Was considering just buy something that's plug and play instead of bothering to build.
Enjoy having tooth paste as thermal paste.

>>107132997
You forgot to enable xmp

>>107133018
Not only that but he also has either 8+16GB or 3x8GB.

Okay I'll get the ID Cooling Frozn A720
Was looking at a dark rock but this looks like a good saving and performance

>>107133018
Yeah
>>107133037
My pc only had 2 ram slots so i took out 1x8 and put in a 1x16

>>107132910
>>107132925
nah nvidia colors are worse

>>107133018
>>107133037
Thats cool
Anything you can tell from mine other than im a fat virgin failure (and poor)

>>107133101
Looks good. If you ever get bored you can overclock your ram.

>>107132509
$50 off MSRP is the best you can expect
These days, GPUs are a steal if they're even at msrp

>>107132633
The problem with CL36 is that you're mostly likely to stumble upon Samsung p/b-die which has a much higher likelihood of instability than 6000cl30 Hynix kits

>>107133101
I had very similar setup in 2020.

>>107133221
b-die....

>>107133221
Look at Mr moneybags over here

>>107133236
Yea, but this board didn't like 4DIMMs at all. So I could not OC them any further.
>>107133248
Bruh, but I'm poor failure as well. Let me have at least some toys.

>>107133221
Im riding this until it catches fire, might end up buying a 5060TI at some point, not the biggest computing increase over the 3060TI (some anons talked about a 33% or so) but also access to frame gen and dlss4 and whatever
As long as it plays vidya, youtube, and porn.... i have no complains

Msi b650 tomahawk for 175 eur or msi b850 gaming plus wifi for 215?
Are the newer chipset and the pcie 5 lane for the gpu worth the difference?
Also can I expect some kind of discount on mobos during black friday?

>>107133292
3060Ti was the last good xx60 card. Shame we can't have nice things anymore.
IMO not worth upgrading to 5060Ti unless you really need more VRAM and you know you are going to use FG all the time.

>>107133332
>IMO not worth upgrading to 5060Ti unless you really need more VRAM and you know you are going to use FG all the time.
Not a matter of worth, i misspoke
Im using this until it literally either catches fire or can't launch the next game i might want to play at at least medium/high 1080p 60fps
If that were to happen tomorrow i would just pick a 5060TI cause is what i can bite atm, didnt mean that im actively looking for a 5060ti right now
I appreciate the advice

>>107133195
Is there a site that has MSRP prices? I'm looking at the AORUS MASTER ICE because theres a $400 (dollarydoos) off listing but I have no idea how to gauge the value.

>>107132633
6200 cl30 or 6000 cl28

>>107133310
Why is your b850 gaming plus so expensive?
It's 150€ in my slavic shithole.
Also B850 and B650 are the same chipset.
PCI-E 5.0 for GPU is nothingburger.

>>107131321
I continue to feel better about buying a 4090 in 2022.

>>107133355
Sure, I upgraded monitor to 1440p144Hz when I bought my 3060Ti so I cannot go back to enjoying 1080p60.
High refresh just feels so nice.

>>107132677
lol like I have either

>>107133413
Yeah i should get a 1440p screen, the card can probably play most of the not so demanding shit at 1440p since im not super worried about high ultra settings

>>107132989
Why are you even signing in? That hasn't been required in a long time.

>>107133357
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#sort=price&page=1

>>107132989
>please sign in for driver wiver bullshit
lol fuck nvidia
amd gpu here i come
they also have better colors

>>107133398
>>107133310
I think I figured out why your price is so different, MSI has 3 boards with nearly identical names.

>>107133440
looks like the current discount was also being offered as early as September so maybe they aren't budging, whats the chance that Cyber monday/black friday or the Christmas sales drop the price to a new minimum price?

how come both 120 and 144 Hz became standards?

>>107133398
Here on pcpp the cheapest atx b850 is 160, there is the gaming plus wifi6e at 174 and the gaming plus wifi at 215, maybe you are watching the first model
Shits get high in price fast and I don't know why

>>107132201
What did he mean by this?

>>107133532

yes they are usual refresh rates but standard no

>>107133532
Because the common video format for film is 24p, 120 and 144Hz are multiples of 24p.
120/240/360 etc. are multiples of 24, 30, & 60Hz

>>107131321
AHAHAHAHAH WAITFAGS ETERNALLY BTFOd
I would genuinely give a couple shots to every fellow 5090 certified anon in here with the savings

>>107133475
Just don't sign in, it's only used for rewards.

>>107133686
It's the principal
I don't want to do driver rigmarole with Nvidia

>>107133727
AMD's drivers have Twitch integration, that's way more fucked up than a rewards program.

>>107132985
Yea the gaming x is pretty decent. Hardware Unboxed did 2 videos on pretty much every B850 motherboard which you might find useful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLMTT7-rfeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFqd7lnXlIk

>>107133434
>>107133686
Don't feed the Radeon troll, he was posting an image of GeForce Experience.
Bringing up retired apps in 2025, that's what Retardeons do.

>>107130802
when supply increases due to greater production
or when "ai bubble bursts" which is anywhere from a few years to a few decades away

>horrendously outdated Ryzen 7 3700X (he's doing his best)
>upgrading meaningfully means new mobo, RAM, CPU and cooler at minimum.

starting to see why black people just steal things.

>>107132277
massacre all aicucks
kill sam altman

>>107130910
game was shit then and it's shit now

>>107133846
I had a 3700x and I just upgraded to a 5700x3d for $180. 50% higher performance at least.

>>107133846
>oh my god I have to spend $250 I'm going to be a fucking nigger
Kill yourself

>>107133860
bit rude man

>>107133874
So is stealing tbqhf

>>107133855
>tfw got mine before everything went to hell
between that and >>107131321 waitcucks offically got murdered today

>>107133846
just buy used 5700x3d/5800x3d

>>107133855
Where did you get yours?

>>107133892
Amazon last December

>>107133883
yeah you right. I will be a better, whiter, person going forward.

>>107132997
>>107133292
its a great card, specially if you OC as blackwell cards have the best OC headroom from any RTX generation, you'll see 10% uplift across games quite easily with a moderate OC, 1500 to the memory and 300-350 to the clock, retards who shit on the card dont understand how expensive light is and how having almost 3080/4070 performance when you undervolt/oc while only using 140-150W depending on your sillicon lottery is really good.

>>107133914
how expensive power is*

>>107133855
5700X is faster and cheaper.

>>107134037
So get you one of those, I’ve been happy with my upgrade for nearly a year, personally.

>>107133896
I would have thought that 5700/5800x3d wouldnt appear in amazon way earlier than that
In my country the 5800x3d goes for like 280€ 2nd hand

>>107133939

depends whether you need computer for veekend project or run 247 for twenty years

My 8320E did 4.44 GHz at 1.3V with 2570 HT/NB and 1872 ram. Then it refused to boot again because of stupid gigabyte bios bugs. Switched it out for an 8350 that I haven't played with on this board yet.

>>107134079
I’m
Not exactly sure what you’re trying to say but they were a lot less expensive last year and available for under $200 around Black Friday iirc.

I wasted this morning's 3DMark cold run by leaving the NVIDIA App Overlay on.

waiting for the ai bubble burst before 2026
its going to happen right?

>>107131321
ok /pcbg/ is time for a truth nuke, the ram shortage means consoles will be either extremely expensive or delayed which means games will continue to target the ps5 pro for the next 4 years which means that if you are happy with your current performance and not on something like an RDNA2 card there is no reason to upgrade. having said that now its time to be honest about the 5000 series.

If you need a new card the 50 series is neither, "overpriced" or slow , most of them are clocked slower which explains the massive OC headroom not seen since GTX cards in the mid 2010s.

>5090
30% uplift only 32VRAM card
>5080/5070 TI
comfortably a tier above 4080 super after you OC them, not quite 4090 tier though
>5070
4070 ti super performance after you OC it but $200 cheaper, in some games its 10-15% faster than 4070 super/4070 TI super and the sweet spot for high refresh 1440p gaming with DLSS
>5060 TI 16GB
a little below the normal 4070 outside of path tracing after you OC it, it still a 4070 with 16gb vram and more power efficiency, you can run heavily modded skyrim and shit like that with 8k textures or if you do maya or anything that requires 16gb and cant afford a 5070 TI then this is your choice, is around 25-30% slower than a 5070 but its still good enough until the next console happens because the ps5 pro is slower than this so it will hit comfortably 60 fps or above in 1440p with high settings for the next 4 years. if you want native high refresh rate and only do gaming maybe look into the 5070 if they are similarly priced.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/LfGnYd
Feedback plz

>>107134107
its also country dependant if you are a neet that plays games more than 8 hours a day and live on a country with expensive power bills this will definetly help specially on summer, having to use AC to cool a room in which your gpu power draw is above 350W is a nightmare , i had space heater in the past the issue is that retards dont understand that what cooling solutions do is transfer those 350 W watts of heat to the case and then the case transfer it to your room.

What PSU would you recommend for a 9950X3D and 5070 Ti, with the option to upgrade to a more powerful GPU in the future?

I’m looking at the Corsair RM1000x ATX 3.1 and NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1, both seem solid based on the best PSU guide. However, I really don’t like the fan stop feature on the Corsair. I’d prefer the fan to spin at all times like on my current Seasonic 850W. Since I want to keep my current PC intact, I can’t reuse that PSU.

Any suggestions? Also large PSUs (200mm+) won’t fit. EU market

>>107134267
there is a button on the back of the psu that turns the fan to always on

>>107134267
hx1200i
Also why dont you like the zero rpm mode, it just stops the fan when its cool and not under load

For a white build, is there a manufacturer who really takes it seriously? I want it to be really, really huwhite.

>>107134204
I'm just seeing what I can build now and if a 5070 or 5070TI would be worth it. I was holding out for 18GB 5070 but now I just don't fucking now.

>>107134334
If you really care about the shade of white, best of luck to you. You’ll be lucky if half your parts are some warm shade like eggshell and the other half with be cool. White parts are such a crapshoot.

>>107134334
you'll never be able to fully white match it especially when brands will throw on silver for absolutely no reason

>>107130478
4 din 32gb ddr3 kits doubled this week. $60?? Fuckers

>>107134334

you maybe want intel b luna gpu

>>107134366
>>107134406
Sigh. A white closed case it is, then.

>>107134168
sorry im esl as fuck
i meant that i thought they were discontinued so long ago that they wouldnt even be any left in amazon or anywhere other than the 2nd hand market by that date (december of 2024) im obviously overestimating when they were discontinued and whn the supply ran out

>>107134285
>there is a button on the back of the psu that turns the fan to always on
On the Corsair there’s a knob, but its functionality isn’t clear. Corsair doesn’t state that it turns off the fan stop feature, instead they say it lets you adjust the fan speed up or down, which is pretty stupid compared to a simple button that just enables or disables fan stop mode.

>>107134292
>hx1200i
Do you think it will fit in the Corsair 5000T without having to remove the HDD bays? I’ve watched a few reviews, but they always take the HDD bay out
>Also why dont you like the zero rpm mode, it just stops the fan when its cool and not under load
It’s better for electronic components to stay cool all the time. Fan stop just strains the fan and adds unnecessary heat cycles, since at certain load levels it will constantly turn on and off

>>107134481
>Corsair 5000T
It says that its compatible with all shift PSU, but you could always ask corsair support

These are components that come with 10 year warranty and can easily last 5-10 years more

I think I'm gonna get a Walmart gaming PC on Black Friday. They have gaming PCs at Walmart now.

THE DEALS HAVE BEGUN! THE DEAL IS MSRP

>Bought the new Hyte case
>Ordered fans to go with it
>Got PCI-E risers instead
I fucking hate this company, never again.

it's insane how so many companies in this are shit at selling and shipping their own products

>>107134645
Some 9070xt have been at msrp on my country for a month or so, bottom tier models sure but they are there
Meanwhile the fucking cheapest 5070TI is 175€ more expensive than the cheapest 9070xt
Fuck you Hensen

Should I get a nvme now or wait for black friday?

>>107134720
that's the price for not falling for an AMD gpu again

>>107134727
they've been cheap throughout the year

>>107134720
Spend the extra money to have driver support, unless you plan on selling the AMD card within the next year or so.

>>107134727
doesn't matter

I think I'm gonna get a Walmart gaming PC on Black Friday. They have gaming PCs at Walmart now.

>>107134771
>nvidia
>good drivers

onions, last unproblematic nvidia driver was released more than an year ago

>>107134781
Oh god the radeon shill is back. Go back to defending RDNA 1 and 2 getting fucking dropped already, retard.

>amd bad
>no
>wtf thats shilling
oh looks like he woke up
enjoy the thread i guess

>>107134798
not that anon but you dont have to make shit up, nvidia drivers been fine since april, we have hard numbers that blackwell have sold around 20m gpus and nearly 10% of the steam playerbase use system with them integrated, if the drivers were still bad do you even realize how much noise would it be around it.

what's with the novideo shills

amd is garbage that supports hardware for 4 years

>>107134822
i didnt even say anything about the green brand, i was talking about cpus earlier itt

>>107134787
but they arent?!?

>>107134781
>onions, last unproblematic nvidia driver was released more than an year ago
No issues on my 4090 or 5070Ti PC. You're just lying.

>>107134852
>goyim, legacy support is just as good as regular support
Fuck off, rabbi.

I want to build an ITX PC that takes up as little space as possible, being able to use an RTX 5070 Ti SFF and a utra 7 or Ryzen 7 9000, which part do you recommend?
>muh, space, heat
I know, I plan to use Undervolting

>>107134136
the 8350 needs 60mV more at the same settings

Just realized that the new GPU coming means I need a new monitor since new ones don't support DVI anymore and HDMI1 doesn't go above 60hz kinda defeating the purpose of a 120hz monitor with a better GPU.

>>107134873
just set a custom resolution with the same timings as the dvi resolution
works for me

>>107134873
i always mention the monitor when people talk here about updating a new gpu on an older system

I am not mind, intellect, ego and the memory.
I am not the sense of organs (ears, tongue, nose, eyes
and skin).
I am not the five elements ( sky or ether, earth, light
or fire, the wind and the water).
I am supreme bliss and pure consciousness, I am
Shiva,
I am all auspiciousness, I am Shiva.

I am not Prana ( energy) nor five vital airs
(PanchVayu), nor the seven essential material( sapta
dhatu ), nor the five sheaths of the body ( pancha
kosha ).
I am not the organ of speech, nor hand nor the leg,
nor the organs of procreation or the
elimination(anus).
I am supreme bliss and pure consciousness, I am
Shiva,
I am all auspiciousness, I am Shiva.

I have no hatred or dislike, neither greed nor liking,
no delusion,
I have no pride or haughtiness, nor jealousy.
I have no duty to perform(dharma), no desire for any
wealth or pleasure (kama), I have no liberation
(moksha) either.
I am supreme bliss and pure consciousness, I am
Shiva,
I am all auspiciousness, I am Shiva.

I have neither virtue, nor vice.
nor pleasure or pain,
I do not need mantras(sacred chants), nor
pilgrimages. nor scriptures (Vedas), rituals or
sacrifices (Yagyas).
I am neither the enjoyed nor the enjoyer,
nor enjoyment.
I am the supreme auspiciousness of the form of
consciousness-bliss(chidananda Rupah). I am the
auspiciousness
I am supreme bliss and pure consciousness, I am
Shiva,
I am all auspiciousness, I am Shiva.

I have no fear of death, nor do I have death. No
doubt about my existence, nor distinction of caste. I
have no father or mother, I have no birth.
I have no relatives, nor friend, nor the guru, nor the
disciple.
I am pure knowledge and supreme bliss, I am Shiva,
I am all auspiciousness, I am Shiva.

I am formless and devoid of all dualities
I exist everywhere and pervade all senses
Always I am the same,
I am neither free nor bonded
I am pure knowledge and supreme bliss, I am Shiva,
I am all auspiciousness, I am Shiva

>>107134866
fractal terra case looks nice
specific gpu doesnt matter as long as it fits the case and you avoid thickest coolers since the case limits the cpu height depending on the gpu size

Would it be wise to wait for black friday? Im trying to build a pc and as of now i can buy everything for 1k which is within my budget

>>107134943
yes. get a Walmart gaming pc on Black Friday. that's what I am doing.

>>107134891
will depend on the resolution since you're still stuck with the single link limitation

>>107134943
the stuff you want wont have any meaningful discount on black friday
do you think they are discounting popular mobos cpus and ramkits?
they will put shit like fan hubs on sale and shitty monitors

You can apparently get an NH-D15 G2 LBC for 130 eurobucks (as I informed the keyt
https://www.amazon.nl/dp/B0D5B5B821
What sort of Dutch satanic ritual is this

>>107134860
>legacy support

>>107135049
You can find local sellers that will still have it near that price (as I just did)

>>107135030
Thanks for confirming my suspicions

It's November
Why haven't the CPUs lowered in price

>>107135115
They did

>>107135115
there was some extremely cheap warrantless tray cpus on aliexpress

>>107131431
When is it gonna stop

>>107135207
It's not

by 2027 the only way to have a consumer pc to consume anime tiddies will be moving to Taiwan and start working on a ram factory

>>107132277
Does this mean prices will keep going up in the next 5-10 years?

>>107135331
It means welcome to the new normal.

>>107135331
Elon Musk is about to become the world's first trillionaire. When Sam Altman becomes the 2nd the prices will drop.

>>107135207
Why would you want it to stop?

>>107135420
was the plandemic not enough for you

i think im gonna get a Walmart gaming pc on black friday

>>107135456
Go for it this is the third time you said it

installed Roblox launcher
installed riot games
installed osu!
installed plarium play
installed google play games pc
installed runescape
installed steam
installed battle.net
installed epic games
installed ea launcher
installed uplay
installed gog galaxy
installed xbox
didn't install discord.

yep, I think it's gaming time!

>>107135546
I am

>>107132746
Hey! My case made the OP!

Big case in use. It's so nice working in one of these compared to newer small cases.

Just got Best Buy to price match a 7800X3D to $280. Which company makes the least shit AM5 motherboards?

God I love this thing. How could I live without that scroll wheel for so long?

>>107135763
>sixty hertz

I thought I could build but the idea of paying £200 for 32GB of ram when I know it was literally £100 just a few weeks ago is making me seethe like crazy

>>107135757
B850 Aorus Elite AX, MSI Tomahawk, or ASUS TUF are usually overkill for most gamers.
Grats on the price match, that's near an all-time low price.

>>107135757
depends on which flavor of shit you like the most desu
>>107131321
PERPETUUM BUCKBREAKILE
>captcha: MGGTR

AHAHAH
SUPER/TI rehashes of the 50 series have been cancelled because of low 3gb gddr7 chips supply.
the absolute state of nvidia.

>>107135867
It'll launch 5090 showed us nvidia isn't above "launching" a card with no stock

>>107135772
*spins*

>Lancool 217 infinity puts IO on the top
fuck yes
>it's a glass abomination with fans embedded inside the front glass
what the fuck why

>>107135905
glass case

*shatters*

kek

>>107135905
Take the Meshify 3/XL pill. But they're no longer discounted.

>>107135923
sometimes i really hate lian li

>>107135882
I wonder if the 6090 release will be even worse since 2nm is so expensive and still has so much production waste.

>>107135973
Not to mention Apple has basically bought all of it already

>>107135867
>he thinks is only nvidia
dram and ssd prices have skyrocket, i expect new gen consoles to suffer the same fat

>>107135905
Put it on the desk you fag. The world must know about your gaming street cred.

>>107135867
>the absolute state of nvidia
Don't act like AMD will get more favorable GDDR7 supply contracts in the future, that's the reason why their Radeon cards are still using GDDR6.
AMD can't even get memory IC manufacturers to design custom chips like GDDR6X because Radeon GPUs aren't popular enough to justify the entire operation.

>>107135054
They are still on the maintenance branch, which is the polaris and vega branch and we all know the radeon 7 was matching the 6600xt before they were moved unto that branch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkPPejQXFNo

>>107136005
>maintenance branch
that was a german mistranslation it is the Special RDNA1/2 Optimized branch using years of knowledge and techniques gained from their years of service and millions of units sold

why doesn't TSMC just charge double the price?
it's not like there is any competition.

>>107135800
Soon you'll be saying that about the times you could have gotten them for £200

>>107136017
no german mistranslation, that branch is literally the vegas/polaris branch, amd has literally ONLY 2 branches with the combined branch being a 1 GB's

>>107136019
There's a point where TSMC customers will just switch to Samsung if the math doesn't add up.
Or they'll delay new product releases until Samsung and Intel can make similar chips.

>>107136019
If it gets too expensive then companies move elsewhere.
There is competition from Samsung and even if they may be only 80% of TSMC performance, the relative cost difference when TSMC charges too much means companies might eventually tune their architectures for Samsung.

>>107136017
bullshit

>>107136019
Trump would declare war on them

I'm currently running a 2700x and a 2080 super, with 2x16GB of RAM. Would it make sense to upgrade to a 5700x or 5800x as my last upgrade before building an AM5 rig in a couple years?

My primary use case is light gaming with a 4k monitor at 60hz, stuff like cyberpunk i run with DLSS.
I also am getting into CAD for 3d printing and would like something a bit more powerful for rendering.

>>107136060
>>107136037
good luck getting the capacity which TSMC has from fucking Samsung lmao

>>107135882
Californian privilege

>>107129835
they buy dead pcbs and just swap it I am guessing

>>107129711
>my monitor already died after 2 years, so now im looking for a new one. i dont want oled because of burn in, whats the best one to get?
another LCDs last forever victim

is a wooting 60he v2 worth 255€?

do I buy the module and all the stuff lads

Any rumors on availability of the Intel B60 yet?

>>107136308
Wooting is worth it if you need it.
If you just want to play around with hall effect switches, there are cheapo Chinese options for that now.

>>107136308
Are you under 15000 in CS2?

>>107129711
most likely bad caps
take the back panel off and replace them
my monitor has tried to die on me like that before
NOT IN THIS LIFE JEWBERG

Got this OLED on sale (never had an oled screen before that wasnt a phone). I did read that oled monitors aren't as bright as IPS/VA ones, so a bit worried the screen might be too dim but we'll see. At this price it was hard to pass up but hopefully wont need to return it. Also any suggestions on how HDR stuff works in games?

>>107136308
Some people claim they are expensive compared to competitors but I never checked. I got myself a 80HE and it's the best keyboard I've ever had honestly but by far the most expensive as well.

>>107136597
>OLED monitors finally affordable
>Building a PC becomes totally unaffordable
the gods see fit to kiss my cheek while they fuck me in the ass

>DDR5 is becoming stupid expensive
>only built my rig with 32 GB
Is it possible to get another pair of 16 GB sticks of the same type (G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo), throw them in and have 64 GB total?
CPU/Mobo is 7900X and MSI B650M Mortar Wifi.

>>107136597
Why can't I ever find as good of a deal for OLED monitors in Euroland?

>>107136597
>Also any suggestions on how HDR stuff works in games?
Basically, learn how to use RenoDX.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBMbyWuFd5c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLBZUCY4lJk

https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/heres-why-you-should-only-enable-hdr-mode-on-your-pc-when-you-are-viewing-hdr-content

>>107136671
It's Europe. We are fucked. It's that simple.

>get a relatively good ram deal on amazon
>We will email you when we have an estimated delivery date.
>adjacent models have estimated dates between late december to late january
hope my other components are comfy in their boxes

>>107136669
Depends, if it doesn't work you might have to reduce the timings. 100% sure you are not going to be overclocking 4 sticks of RAM though.

>order aio I always wanted 13 hours ago.
>they stealth announced an updated version 11 hours ago.
omfg... should I just go with the old version or wait 2 weeks until the new version releases?
I really don't want to be a waitfag but this timing man...

>>107136691
I will Just Wait™ for a glossy 4k 32" 4th gen WOLED then.
I hope those will cost less than 1000€.

>>107136644
Yeah seriously. I got ram in september (64gb ddr5 6000 cl30 for 220), that ram is now like 550 bucks.
>>107136671
Been to europe twice, prices for tech always shock me there, sorry man.
>>107136690
Thank you will take a look!

>>107136730
I'd personally get the new one but be warned that it might get revised over the time and may have initial release issues.

>>107136610
>>107136610
>>107136610

>>107136337
I don't want dodgy software and they are all ansi layouts also, which brings me to the question any anons use ISO layout but use ANSI keyboards? considering ergonomics and modability
worth buying ansi if you are are on an iso layout anyway? idk

>>107136454
haven't played cs since the early 2000s, rest assured I am the goat

>>107136730
i'd be too lazy to give a shit
it's bad enough dealing with my awful delivery companies already

>>107136703
I might give it a miss then, I don't strictly need 64 GB and hopefully the AI bubble will burst soon and all the surplus shit will drop RAM prices...

>>107136671
you have to wait for flash deals and specific deals
best deal I ever saw yet was s81sf for 500€ and g80sd for 600€
cheapest the 27" 4k panel has ever been is in the xg27ucdm for 860€ mostly hovering at 950€ which as you can see is like twice the price
cheapest I ever saw the 32" panel also

but, I kid you not when I say that software and monitor implementation is the most important things now in these oleds
or you will suffer eternally with shitty pixel refresh and jumping pixels

so you CAN'T even buy the shittiest cheap stuff which is usually AOC and shit, because they are pure garbage also

I'd rather use and LCD than get cucked like that again

>>107136756
the truegloss old panel 32" is 1300€ how will the new tandem memes be any less
they will be more for sure

>>107136671
>>107136690
https://www.guru3d.com/story/aoc-q27g4sdr-360hz-qd-oled-monitor-with-hdr-for-under/

AOC to the rescue.