Thread 107170953

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut

>RAM
*Prices and therefore recommendations are for the time being in flux
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb (~$270)
-Used: 2060 Super, 2070, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), Gigabyte MO27Q28G or LG 27GX700A-B (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Omissions
-9800X3D: ~10% improvement in gaming over a 7800X3D (which is still in production)
-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, consider cheaper second hand options like the 3080
-9070: Currently more expensive than the 5070
-"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performance

Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

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>>107166526

now that the dust has settled, is the 12pin connector melting real or just fear mongering from poorfags?

>>107171030
just use regular 8-pin connectors snowflake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkPPejQXFNo
10:36, hairy man says AMD has a history of not supporting their products long term. I have not payed close attention to AMD over the years and was unaware of this. I am still conflicted between RDNA4 and 50 series. I really have to pick between having AMD drop support randomly in a few years for drivers and having jeet/AI coded drivers?
nvidia did everything to make me want to avoid 50 series. missing rops, doubling down on 12vhpwr, driver issues, lying at CES, etc.
I was ready to grab a 9070xt and get double whammy fucked by RAM prices and the RDNA1/2 driver branch stuff bringing this issue to my attention.
What do anons? Do i burn my housedown to give jenson $750 or take the risk on getting pegged by lisa in a few years ?

Rate my build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4xYZ6Q
I already bought everything now just need to wait for the CPU then I can assemble it. I ordered everything like a week and a half ago right as soon as ram was going up by the hour and I figured waitfagging was going to fuck me over. The case im gonna use isn't on pcpartpicker but its a Montech king 45, I already have all of the storage listed too thankfully from an older build.

just buy a 5070 it has the performance of a 4090 you can see it in your screen for 549$

>>107171074
>9950...

>>107171067
they dropped support for GCN3 and below, GGN 4 aka Polaris and up are still supported. This includes the glorious Vega, the shitty 5700XT, the mediocre-but-perfectly-functional RDNA2.

I know the upcoming sand shortage will be ETH mining level times 10 but i just cant find the need to upgrade my poorfag rig
If anything i keep hoarding old garbages to install gentoo on

Gonna get me that cheapo motherboard and get my pc working again.
She was good to me.

>>107170953 (OP)
Yes. I too use colour-coded cables for my drives.

>>107171126
I bought a second hand motherboard for 260. Rec my stupidity.

If I want to get a GPU to replace my GTX 1080, what should I get?
Requirements: AMD (I goom on Linux), has to be relatively affordable, has to be a noticeable improvement over a GTX 1080
I game at 1440p60 so I don't need anything insane.

>>107171139
Anything available today.

>>107171126
based and sentimental PC pilled anon.

>>107171149
RX580s are available today and are worse than GTX 1080s. Be serious Anon.

>>107171160
if you want amd your only options are the 9070 and the 9070xt for 1440p from the newest gen
from the previous gen anything from the 6800xt and above but those will all be very expensive

Theres 0 advantages for AyyMD left after NVIDIA started making drivers again for Linux and the rugpull on driver support for RDNA2
>b-but they walked back
Lol, lmao even

>>107171175
Why would they remove driver support for RDNA2 when Polaris is still supported? Surely they would stop supporting older cards first?

>>107170953 (OP)
you mark my fuarking words
upon this rock (case) I will build my church (pc)

>>107171160
>>107171160
if you want amd your only options are the 9070 and the 9070xt for 1440p from the newest gen
from the previous gen anything from the 6800xt and above
picrel is battlefield 6 at 1440p native ultra settings, the next amd card was the base 6800 at 50fps

>>107171191
FUCK ME
Three posts needed for this because now i forgot the pic

>>107171191
I game on Linux, so multiplayer gaming isn't exactly something I can even do, let alone care about lmao

I'd just get an RX 7600 but that's not a noticeable improvement over a 1080 to be worth spending the money.

>>107171152
I mean... we ARE looking at the price difference between $60 to get a 1070 up and running again versus a whole kit and caboodle costing over a thousand dollars to eventually support a 5070ti or some such (for another $800).

>>107171199
i picked battlefield 6 becasue it is by all accounts a very demanding game so i assumed it would show waht each card can do
im not into shooters myself either, but i thought it a good benchmark

>>107171030
"Fearmongering" is the cope word for bag holders

>>107171184
>>107171105
Im seeing articles and posts dating back to 2023 talking about vega support being dropped. I feel as though there are two camps of "its still supported" and "AMD kills off support a few years on their products" with no un bias inbetween on this issue. from what I can see, "critical bug fixes" have been put out sparsely for older gens by AMD, but this might not meet the requirements of some people for "day one game optimized drivers" or whatever they expect. I just want a realistic idea of how long I can use an RDNA4 card. My 1080ti kept chugging through all these years no problem, will this be the case for RDNA4?

>>107171208
>by all accounts a very demanding game
No, it's easy to run. It will do 60 fps on skylake and pascal/polaris

>>107170953 (OP)
fuck yeah lian li a3 is fantastic matx case, even fits the d15+360aio.
if you put it on its side its a small, but chunky htpc

>>107171208
ah okay that makes sense then
I notice there's the 9060 XT and by all accounts double the performance of a GTX 1080.

>>107171215
AMD support on Linux is a bit different as it's part of the kernel.

>>107171067
do you want nv feature set? is 5070 ti close in price? do you wanna suck the amdick?

>>107171139
>use loonix for gaymen
>can't use hdmi2.1
yep, it's over

>>107171215
Vega and Polaris are still supported in Windows.

>>107171238
why would I care about HDMI 2.1?

>>107171216
shows what i know about shooters
any other recent game you can recommend as a benchmark?

>>107171208
So do they make pcs that can run MH Wilds yet?

>>107171256
Maybe some UE5 dogshit.
It does not make a good game engine but it does work well for benchmarking gpus.

>>107171251
to run a 165hz 83" oled tv

>>107171202
very true, I think its a great idea desu. I have been daily using an x58 system of thesis for 16 years now and only just ordered parts for a new build. My CPU hit a wall with a lack of AVX instructions that no amount of overclocking or vodoo could solve. I squeezed every last drop of water from this stone and im glad I did. I plan to "retire" this by clocking it back down and using it as a home server for years to come, regardless of how slow or power hungry it is.

>>107171270
4k60 is good enough while we wait for amd to include hdmi 2.1 in binary blob.
or just use an active DP 1.4 to hdmi 2.1 cable, plenty of those in the market.

>>107171292
>4k60 is good enough
Are we back in 2015?

>>107171236
>>107171243
So is this all a big nothing burger? why are people making a big stink about it? I can see tech youtubers doing it for clicks, but randos online are freaking out and claiming this is par for the course with AMD. Its hard for me to gauge the issues.

>>107171238
I would prefer to not need upscaling, but it seems to be the trend nowdays. I cant imagine needing it in any tittles older than current ones so assuming FSR4 continues being implemented in games its not a huge deal i guess. $150 difference between MSRP cards, or I could get the 9070xt AIB i really want for just under the 5070ti price. I dont know what that means :(

>>107171346
amd doesn't go out of their way to slow down older cards like nvidia

>in canada
>32gb of wam costs almost $400

how fucked are nvme prices going to get?

>>107171359
>paid 120 bucks for 4x16gb ddr4 3200
AHH WHAT A LAIF
>>107171367
in 2027 512gb will cost 599

>>107171372
By 2030 RAM will be back over $2/GB again

>>107171377
we just have to hope that AI datacenter crash will become reals

>>107171292
>or just use an active DP 1.4 to hdmi 2.1 cable, plenty of those in the market.
does that cope even work? seems fucky and would you even get support for the features in hdmi2.1? idk

>>107171332
I'm getting a 4k60 tv today, we will find out
I need to go buy a hdmi cable afterwards, literally don't have one

>>107171346
>I dont know what that means :(
you wanna use ayym features or nv features

>>107171367
Probably going to double in price. Everything is backordered.

>>107171405
fine ill do it myself.
>orders a shady DP1.4 to HDMI 2.1 active cable

Computer it took 1 minute to post because it was always memory training (ddr5)
Then, I used memory context restore to shorten the wait.

This is where it fucked up: it would post, but would encounter problems during booting. I tried reverting that, but the bios wouldn't save
Thankfully clearing cmos worked

>>107171359
And that's for 3200cl16 trash sticks too kek
$450 could get you 2x16gb 4000cl14 sticks back in 2021

>>107171453
i remember paying over 300 USD for 2x8gb ddr4 3600 back in 2018

>>107171422
I'm tired, I was thinking it atleast said dp2.1 or something
DP1.4 has alot lower bandwidth than hdmi2.1 also
so, exactly how many levels of fucky is this going to become trying to make this garbage work?
nah seems super fucky
TVs are already jank if you intend to push dsc and stuff and everything over them
adding these layers and on lower bandwidth?
this seems retarded for sure
linux, not even once

Im retarded and havent made a new PC in years. How do people set up their hard drives now? Are people just putting everything onto SSDs now? Or are people putting their OS and vidya onto SSDs, and keeping an HDD for storage and music and shit?

Are SSDs still unreliable shite?

>>107171502
SSDs have been highly reliable for 15 years now Anon, just how long ago did you last build a PC?

>>107171502
Most of the early unreliable SSD brands like ocz died out for being untrustworthy
Most SSDs today are reliable apart from exceptions like Samsung who likes releasing new SSDs with beta firmware and nand but fixes it on later batches

>>107171405
>you wanna use ayym features or nv features
features? I just want a card that plays vidya..

>>107171502
SSDs have never been unreliable, that was skub. I still have a kingston V300 from 2013 and it scores 93% in crystaldiskinfo. And I left this guy powered off for 3 years straight, which is pretty bad for SSDs.

>>107171503
My MB is literally like 14 years old, and Im still chugging along on a 970 and windows 7. I'd keep using it if I wasnt literally being locked out of newer programs now for it all being so old.

I'll still keep it in a closet forever once I build a new one. Its served me well.

>>107171502
pretty much just buy 4tb nvme's gen3 or better and call it a day yes

I mean if you need 8tb+ storage build a server with hdds or some shit

>>107171523
but you have to live with either nv or amd drivers and their features
that is the point

>>107171533
Holy shit Anon I kneel
But yeah just pick literally any SSD that isn't an AliExpress special.

>>107171545
I own both high end PCIE4 SSDs and cheap ali shit and I can confidently tell that they have no practical difference for daily usage. Write cycles havent degraded the chinkshit even after years of use and pretty much no daily task saturates their cache. If I need to mess around with hundreds of gigabytes, I use the KC3000, but that is pretty rare.

>>107171573
I have a Chinkshit SSD that doesn't even report TBW or remaining endurance, so all I can say is be careful what you buy.

>>107171476
>DP1.4 has alot lower bandwidth than hdmi2.1
as long as i get 4k120 im fine with it lol

All that matters for me is if DickPort 4.20 or GayDMI 2.69 can support 4k60. Literally nothing else matters to me.

>>107171617
then you can use what you want

>>107171573
>KC3000
KC3000 is my goto, its a great ssd

>>107171346
this giant mess is AMD's own making and it happens with all of their cards. Yes it's a nothingburger considering that AMD has done this several times before each time leaving their customers confused.

5060TI 16GB
5070
5070TI

these are the Goats of 2025

All other cards are meaningless wastes of money wastes of sand

YOU STILL ON HASWELL

REALLY

HASWELL

I fucked up while applying thermal paste and a small part of the corner cracked off. Any chance I can use glue/epoxy it back into place?

>>107171850
if this isn't some reddit repost it's dead move on

NOT AN AMD SHILL POST
A friend of mine was looking to buy a desktop computer and he went from considering a Mac Mini, to an AM4 build with an RTX5050, to an AM5 build with a 5060, then a 5060 Ti, now a 5070. But he's having doubts, because the RX 9070 XT is literally under 100 euro more expensive, and allegedly, according to benchmarks he's seen on YouTube (HW Unboxed I assume, the motherfucker) it beats even the 5070 Ti.
Do I try to convince him to stay on Nvidia or do I let him do whatever he wants and potentially suffer from AMD's shit drivers and lack of features?
I have a 5070 build myself and am very happy with it. I know this might sound like I'm shilling AMD but I really am not.

>>107170953 (OP)
r8 my rig

>>107171899
friends dont let friends buy radeon

>>107171972
imagine the sound
>SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>107171899
the 5070TI and the 9070xt are very similar in horsepower
You pick the 9070xt to save you some cash you pick the 5070TI to get the nvidia features
thats literally all there is to it

>>107171850
i truly hope this is a meme
WHERE IS ROMANIAN ANON, IS HE SAFE?

>>107172029
He went from a sub 1k euro budget build to now a 1.3k-1.4k euro 5070 build. He definitely can't afford the 5070 Ti, in fact he'd like to get the 5060 Ti and save some cash, but he's doubtful it can handle games for the next couple of years.
He already has a PS5 he just wants something to play Battlefront 2 on with mouse and keyboard and pirate games he doesn't think are worth the full PS5 disc price.

>>107172036
i misread your post a bit
the 9070xt will go punch for punch with the 5070TI and beat the 5070 base, which obviously also mean it will beat the 5060TI
i would look into trimming the difference somewhere else and purchasing literally the best gpu he can afford, in a budget its more important to not waste money than to penny pinch.
Buying a 5060TI and having to start compromising on graphic settins right out the gate on newer games will suck and only get worse.
For its price the amount of horsepower the 9070xt offers is stupid now that its finally at somewhat msrp, the problem is just the nvidia "feature" gap.

>>107172142
now im the one that sounds like an amd shill
fuckmylife
disclaimer if they were a similar price i would pick a 5070TI over a 9070xt
but with a 180€ difference in my country i would pick the 9070xt

That should do it

>>107171899
goes from wanting a mac to wanting an AM5 build with a 5070ti.. wut

>>107171850
you might lose a few cores anon

>>107171899
>I know this might sound like I'm shilling AMD but I really am not.
It sounds like the opposite actually.
The 9070xt is overall slightly slower than the 5070ti but it is faster in some games. Obviously it's missing some Nvidia software features, it's slower in raytracing, and FSR4 is slightly worse than DLSS4 and has less availability. If he doesn't care about the Nvidia software and the price difference is significant then the 9070xt might be a good choice. In my country (NZ) it's a very large price gap so I would never get a 5070 ti, but in the US it's fairly small so you could pick either one.

hard drive and ram prices going up sucks, but I bought a couple 20TB external drives at $220 a few months ago and just built my new PC at the absolute bottom for prices.

I've always bought two external drives, then I gut one out of the enclosures to use in my PC, and use the second external as a backup. I did the same

When will someone is gonna Mario'd Kikeman?

As a person still running an 8700K + 1080 GTX who wanted to upgrade to a monster workstation rig that would also be able to handle Cyberpunk in VR, I guess I'm fucked, aren't I? I'll be shelling out 5k+ next year, provided of course 5080 SUPER will end up even worth it, which I doubt since it looks like 5090 is the only thing worth getting nowadays.

>>107171987
>friends dont let friends buy radeon
Then go suck dick down the street then faggot only Redditors and terminally online low IQ breakfast test failures buy Jewvidia

Is the dram of the SN850X worth it over the SN7100?

>>107172348
wtf
guess i gotta buy that 8tb ssd now before it becomes unaffordable

>>107172400
fag

>>107172407
Only if you do lots of sustained large writes on it. If it's a OS drive or game drive you can safely skip dram for HBM.

>>107171899
>>107172036
AMD 9070XT card is better unless the 5070ti is on discount

>>107172360
>He thinks 5000 SUPER will ever be released
Just look at ram prices right now. 5080 super is going to be at $2000+ minimum if you can even grab one in the first place, that is

Gigabyte 9070xt or Sapphire Pulse 9070xt?

>>107172630
pulse

>>107172658
Why?

>>107172671
gigabyte gaming oc's cooler is bad

>>107171850
Nice bait lol

Hey bros, my younger brother is building his own PC and I wanted to gift him RAM and a motherboard for Christmas. So how are you supposed to buy ram? 32GB DDR5 cl30 6000mhz ram of course. Will I have to wait for it to go down in price? I'm not spending $150 on it, I bought my current kit for $90 back in April

>>107172673
got proof? any reviews?

>>107172736
Waiting will cause it to go up

>>107172755
So there's nothing you can really do except for taking the bullet? I tried searching in Facebook market place and no luck

>>107172771
No, waitfagging has never been been a good idea.

>>107172736
he thinks he can find 32gb cl30 6000 for only $150 ahahahaha

>>107172788
are those clock frequencies even real? all 9070xt are boosting to 3ghz minimum.

>>107171846
>tfw I too am on Haswell
>a i5 no less
Everything is just too expensive now man.

>>107171846
>>107172843
rookie numbers

Okay question about ram and the whole 6000/30CL

If that combination is not available or is too expenisve you are supposed to pick up ram with similar speed and maybe slightly higher latency (5600, 6000. 6400 // 36) and then set them as 6000/30CL on bios through an expo profile and hope they hold at that "overclocking"?

I could use somebody explain this to me as if i was very dumb. Im listening

>>107172736
cheapest option is 2x16gb sticks bought separately off newegg for 170$
i dont imagine it going down anytime soon

>>107172818
This market sucks. I remember telling my younger brother to buy ram earlier and he didn't listen

>>107170953 (OP)
what would be a good build for around 200 fps in cs2 at 1080p? located in the EU

>>107173009
the way I see it, if you bought a GPU in the past few months youd have overpaid the same as you are on RAM now. atleast, for the build i was planning thats the case. Not saying anyone sould be happy to pay $200+ over MSRP for a GPU, or to be content with current ram prices, but it is what it is ya know.

>>107172910
People just say to buy those kits so you can good Hynix dies and not shitty Micron ones.

>>107172835
My gaming OC 9070xt hits like 65C max with the OC profile. The card is a bit loud on the default profile, but a custom fan curve or using the silent bios fixes it right up. Been really happy with mine and the thermal putty drama mentioned in the OP is a complete non issue.

>>107173035
ryzen 9600x + 9060 xt (16gb)

>>107172910
most of those are NOT capable of running 6000cl30, period. they are made from inferior ram chips sourced from micron, samsung etc. for their lower cost while 6000cl30 capable chips are from sk hynix.
6400cl32, 7200cl34, 7600cl36, 8000cl38 are all capable of doing 6000cl30. other frequently overlooked bins you can consider are 6000cl32, 6000cl28 (probably more expensive) and 6000cl26

>>107173051
>>107173165
thats the kind of shit i wanted to know
thank you anons

>>107173036
well yeah, 150% markup on a $100 kit is still only $250
thankfully we're not talking about 150%+ gpu markups like we were seeing during covid19 and the mining boom

>>107173035
If you just need that 200fps @1080p thats maybe 1100 or so € in my country, and part of the cost is having to buy new am5 shit. I bet a decent am4 rig with a 9060xt can pull it too.
Where are you

>>107173215
Germany. friend asked me what would be the minimal investment that made sense atm

>>107173089
thanks. like this? https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/tVYGrM

just saw a scalper (hispanic, baseball cap) walk out of microcenter with a cart full of every RAM stick they had

>>107173274
Based entepreneur

>>107173036
Tbf I did buy my 5070 Ti for $900 back in april. Seeing 5080's going for that same price is giving me some buyers remorse. My younger brother is planning on getting the 9070 XT Taichi

>>107173274
I don't care how much of a nigger I sound, you should legally be able to steal from those "entrepreneurs". And even if it's not legal, you should steal it either way

>>107173273
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/WGLT6Q
9600x with a phantom spirit and a case i like. Feel free to pick a different case.

Cheapest
>b850 board (can get a b650)
>2tb nvme (can get 1tb)
>32gb 6000/30CL memory (can get cheaper speed/cl)
>9060xt 16gb
>750w+ gold, fully modular psu

You can keep the filters or adjust them to your liking and will pull the cheapest option. Then you can sprinkle a bit extra on pieces if you want.

>>107173366
Forgot to give you a rikishi
This is Kisenosato Yutaka, he became the 72nd Yokozuna in 2017 being the first born japanese to achieve sumo highest rank since 1998!
We can see him as an elder of the JSA officiating matches as a shimpan, for example during the current ongoing november basho!

>>107173366
Thanks! appreciate it

>>107173402
fraud 'zuna

just bought a hyte y70, no idea what fans or cooling to get, should i just check what builds people have made on youtube and copy the fans they use?

>>107170953 (OP)
why does the 990 pro have (((windows))) with it?

>>107173423
Or from pcpp, just keep in mind people tend yo overpraise their own builds, nobody wants to say they fucked their shit up, but should give you a feeling what to get

https://pcpartpicker.com/builds/?using=RgjRsY

While for the lulz how insane would it be to mismatch some DDR4 kits to run 80gb of ram? 2x32gb and 2x16 in a system. Would run at the same frequency but i'd loosen the timings for the sake of stability.

>>107173467
seems like a waste of time. sell the extra pair and get some CA$H MONEY.

>>107173433
samsung ssds have worse than sata ssd performance in linux

>>107173274
>>107173312
Just call ICE on him.

Think I figured out the cause of my browser lag. Sadly there is probably nothing I can do about it. Tried changing my resolution from 4k to 1080p and everything was instantly buttery smooth. So I don't think it's some setting I forgot about I think my computer just isn't strong enough.

Can't believe I spent almost 3k and it wasn't good enough. The only parts I could even upgrade are the 9800x3d and 5080. Would a 9950x3d and a 5090 actually make a huge difference?
Not that I can afford to do it but I'm kind of frustrated, thought I was going to actually have something really nice but now I'm starting to regret getting this fuck huge tv.
Thinking I should have just gone for a 32 or 42 inch 1440p monitor. Does size matter or only resolution? Would a 42 inch 4k monitor/tv run easier than a 55 inch 4k?

>>107173659
>I'm starting to regret getting this fuck huge tv.
It could be a TV issue, enable game mode or something similar.

>>107173659
Try disabling GPU power saving in drivers, changing to the high performance profile and restarting your pc
It might be power saving screwing things up

Size literally doesn't matter but the physical specs of the monitor do. For example LCD displays are inherently slower than oled and depending on how the display overdrive is programmed by the manufacturer, can be much laggier or close to oled levels of fluidity

>>107173659
Forgot to mention what's weird is I changed my hz from 120 to 60 and that didn't make any difference. I don't see why it wouldn't though and only the resolution change. I haven't done any undervolting or overclocking or ram tweaking other than basic expo yet either. Do you think that could make the difference?

>>107173659
what browser are you using? if its chromium enable skia graphite.

>>107173694
Didn't make a difference how? Things just being as laggy as it is in 60hz mode? Or periodic stutters that happen at both 60 and 120hz?

>>107173690
>Try disabling GPU power saving in drivers
I'm not sure how to do it, is it in the nivida app settings? My tv is an LG C5 OLED.
>>107173701
>what browser are you using?
I'm using Brave, haven't tried any others I uninstalled edge already.

>>107173734
Not sure, I don't use the Nvidia app
There's a power saving setting in the 3d graphics menu in the old school Nvidia CP accessible from the system tray in the bottom right of your desktop

>>107173734
In the Nvidia control panel there should be a global or app profile option to prefer max performance. That prevents the GPU from power saving.

Also try enabling skia graphite flag in brave://flags

>>107173733
If I turn it down to 30hz it goes away. But at 60 and 120 if I press the mouse wheel down so it locks in scrolling and start scrolling on the general once it has a decent amount of posts or a reddit page it will start hitching or jerking periodically. It's really distracting. It does it more the faster I am scrolling. If I scroll really slow it doesn't happen but if I go at any decent speed it's jerking a lot.

>>107173659
>9800x3d and 5080 making a browser lag at 4K
what

>>107173274
Don't worry, Anon, there's a good chance they're all like 8Gb per stick. It's hilarious seeing people on used goods sites trying to sell 32Gb (at 4x8) for 200 dollars. I also haven't seen any "white people names" doing it. Hell if anything, the white people are selling it for less.

>>107173799
>Also try enabling skia graphite flag in brave://flags
Which option should I pick?

>>107173854
Just Enabled Only

which one do i get, decide my fate
LG 55" OLED55C44LA
ASUS 27" ROG Strix XG27AQWMG

>>107173899
55 inch > 27 inch
but it all depends on your desk and eyes

Ok I turned on Skia and did the power performance setting. At 60hz it's smooth again. But at 120hz which is where I would like to keep it there is still some hitching but it feels like it's kind of better. Maybe 40% smoother, it's good enough I guess. Maybe after doing overclocking and more tweaking it will get better.

>>107171372
>paid 120 bucks for 4x16gb ddr4 3200
Where and when

Anons I have a plan how to stream games from my office to my living room.

My office PC:
- Sunshine installed on linux, nvidia gpu, wayland, hyprland

My living room SFF pc:
- some small thinkcentre with intel iGPU, moonlight on linux

Can I push 1440p @ 144 Hz over that setup? Can I get HDR to work? Any potential issues?

what fucking cases have the side panels secured with a screw regular or captive I don't want that push pins shit connection only

so are we back to HDDs and DD4 and chink refurbs write-offs gpus?
or did those get hit by the ai-induced price hikes too?

>>107174008
GPUs are actually going down. Some are even on sale. And by sale I mean at MSRP.

>>107174031
not for long, they are also running out of GDDR witch is used for vram

>>107173983
try it and let us know

>>107173957
what are your specs dude

>>107174125
He has 9800x3d and 5080. It's a meme that his browser even stutters at all.

>>107174008
The Super Series pricing would be equal to rape if this keep going like the xx50 starting at $1200

>>107173412
>>107173366
>not going with the 5060 Ti 16 gigs
ngmi

>>107173983
if the host and client are connected to wire then it should be all good assuming your gpus encoder/decoder can keep up. maybe the host (nvidia gpu) can keep up but maybe not the intel igpu. in that case you have to experiment with the bitrate.

>>107173957
If you just did a driver update you also have to wipe your shader cache inside your browser folders or else it's just pulling old cache thats not valid hence the stutter. The easy way is to do this is completely nuke the default folder and create a new profile. You can backup your stuff using a cloud service or something if it's Vivaldi or Chrome idk about Brave.

price aside, is the XFX Mercury OC the best 9070 xt model that doesn't have 12vhpwr?

>>107174249
Powercolor Red Devil, XFX Merc, Aorus Elite are the best if you don't want 12vhpwr.

>>107174125
These are my specs from hwinfo and the nvidia app. I noticed the vram on my gpu is stuck at a high number, not sure what's going on there I tried googling and couldn't find much info. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong but I don't really know how to even begin troubleshooting. Maybe it's just because I haven't done any overclocking yet? Does anything stand out as a wrong?

>>107174235
I updated my drivers before installing brave on my computer. I had them all on a thumb drive and updated as soon as I first booted the computer. Do you think the shader cache could still be a problem?

>>107174301
in that case you can ignore the cache step.

>>107174288
everything seems to check out okay. do you have Gsync on? maybe that stutter you're noticing is the panel hz changing lower which can happen in fullscreen or borderless apps. some people disable it for their browser as part of the control panel app profile because it's too distracting.

>>107174288
>I noticed the vram on my gpu is stuck at a high number, not sure what's going on there
Connect the video card to a monitor only; your TV's game settings might be keeping the card at high performance mode.

Help some dude to pick his parts in the netherlands
He doesn't want to put them together himself and wants to use alternate (a retailer)
i choose him the parts and give him options according to his needs
he goes literally against every single one of the correct choices, but waht i can do i inform him and then he decides
HE BUYS A WINDOWS FROM THE RETAILER CAUSE HE DOESNT THINK HE CAN INSTALL IT HIMSELF
MY CAT CAN FUCKING INSTALL WINDOWS
YOU STICK THE USB AND PRESS CONTINUE
He is gonna pay 250€ for the putting together of the pieces + installation of windows and then 130 for the windows license... 380€ on top of as i said picking what i believe to be the wrong choices (5080 over 5070TI, 1kw psu over 850W, shitty rgb AIO with a screen over a good air cooler)
Whatever, i did my part i gave him the part list and informed him. No jury would find me guilty.

>>107174390
>>107174392
No Gsync, I'm currently using filmmaker mode on my tv not the gamer mode.

How much of a cope is it to think Nvidia cards will be cheaper and have more VRAM 3 years from now?

>>107174422
anon nobody can predict the nvidia prices 3 months from now

>>107174411
Just connect the card to a single monitor and see what happens.

>>107174411
Not even freesync or VRR? Not using adaptive sync can cause some GPUs to lock their memory clock to max if you're using a high resolution+hz.

>>107174458
No I hadn't gotten to that point yet was still trying to figure out computer settings. I'll mess with the tv game settings and see what happens.

>>107172791
>waitfagging has never been been a good idea
This will be the new motto for /pcbg/

>>107174422
Anon, everything is getting more expensive. It's a fool's errand to think anything is going to get cheaper. Nvidia has already shown that rather than offer more quantity of vram they will demand some even more expensive vram be put onto their cards and then claim it's got much better gains than just offering more vram. The main issue is they they have no competition. AMD and Intel are a joke to them. They literally own 5% of intel now. AMD ship 1 GPU for every 10 Nvidia ship. So you are asking if in 3 years time will AMD finally offer them some competition. We'll have to see what Jensen tells his literal cousin at Thanksgiving 2027.

>>107172896
haswell is actually good and costs nothing, why would you be on anything older
and you can buy coffee for cheap now too

a lot of these early black friday sales are terrible

i don't think there's gonna be a lot of savings

but i hope at least CPUs will drop on that day

Capitalism does a capitalism.

>>107174422
3 years from now? ai bubble will crash in 2 years
so you will have cheaper hardware and no money because the economy will get destroyed worse than in 2008

>>107171067
amdgpu doesn't have this problem btw. I could throw my r9 280bin my rig right now and be totally fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdbVGSqUKNA

okay it's time to stop watching build videos when i start getting the gooner ones

>>107174590
There have been some great discounts for the 9800X3D, 7800X3D, 265K, and 14600K throughout the year in the US.
7500F, 7600X, and 9600X were also regularly discounted.

>>107174680
they support gpus as far back as the first dx11 amd graphics card. microsoft already abandoned those.

>>107174772
yeah and my dumbass bet everything on them dropping on black friday the steepest. I can only hope there's more coming.

>>107174774
It's not Microsoft's responsibility to maintain 10~12 year old Radeon garbage or ensure compatibility with that legacy hardware.

getting a 5070 ti, should i get a 7800x3d or 9800x3d? i dont really wanna upgrade cpu for a good while, is 9800x3d a big difference and more "futureproof"? I do gamedev, gaming, productivity

>>107174852
then get a 9950x3d

the best x99 motherboard you can get right now and it's cheap, free shipping too - but it's on alibaba, it's $44.90 with a xeon cpu, free shipping https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/PANDL-NEW-X99-WIFI-Mainboard-Combo_1601581515861.html

>>107174819
it actually is their job. since vista they introduced wddm.

>>107174852
11800X3D is going to blow both out of the water.

>>107174881
AMD is the one that decides to end support for their GPUs, you retarded man-child.
There were no compatibility issues with W10/11.
https://chipsandcheese.com/p/the-end-of-an-era-amd-discontinues-pre-2016-gcn-gpu-support

You're obviously mentally ill to be over thirty years old and shitposting about 10~12-year-old cards.

i bought 2 nvmes and 64 gb ram to build my pc in 1+ year, bad idea?

>>107174931
yet somehow open source drivers and hacked community drivers just work yet microsoft cant do it

>>107174852
15-20% in memebench, 5~8% in real use and games

>Trying to buy an affordable SFX PSU
What is your guys' opinion on buying refurbished PSU's?

I found a refurbished Corsair SF1000L on Amazon for a little over $100, but it's through Amazon Renew, which I'm pretty sure is just re-packaged returns.

I know the golden rule is to not cheap out on power supplies, but I find it really hard to pay nearly double for the equivalent in a small form factor.

>>107174876
expensive for a slow computer like that

>>107174958
It's not Microsoft's fucking job to extend AMD's GPU driver support.
I feel bad for your aging parents, whom you're leeching off of.

>>107174422
Cheaper? No, nothing will ever get cheaper you just hope that your wage increases faster
More vram? That comes when new data center demand drops off.

>>107174977
thats one thing you dont want to buy old cause they notably degrade, Im throwing away psus every 4-5 years while we still have ~20 year old pcs running 24/7

>>107174986
>its not trillion dollar companies job to be worse than hobo os

The collab everyone wanted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=671h7XY2DSY

>>107174977
If there's a warranty go for it, do whatever
If you complain long and hard enough they will buy you a new pc

>>107175153
you would have to pay 20€ an hour for me to watch that

>>107175134
Say that shit to AMD; they are the ones that discontinued driver development for those cards.
AMD's Windows drivers are proprietary, closed-source drivers.
You can still use W10 & 11 on a R9 280 or 290, can't run newer games because AMD told those card owners they're fucked in 2021.

These AMDicked® cocksuckers blame everyone except for AMD/Radeon.

>>107175206
TLDR: Nvidia Super Cancelled, AMD has better quality drivers, Nvidia still has better encoder, Next Gen + AI Dotcom Crash might make AMD the winner

>>107175221
I am always perplexed by you people that have such a disdain for AMD fanboys. It would be like the US military really wanting to blow up those uncontacted island people. Like, they’re so inconsequential that it’s downright odd that you care so much.

>>107175246
fuck off

>>107175221
There are community dribers for GCN1 at least

>>107175246
>DUDE JUST ONE MORE GEN AND WE AMD BROS WILL FINALLY BE ON TOP
lol, the cycle continues. Also lmao'ing at the idea that the ai "bubble" will "crash" that near into the future.

why would MSI place the EPS power there on the other side not the usual side I mean I see why buy but cases don't put EPS feedthrough slots on that side fuck you'd have to use the side grommet shit that'd look very ugly

>>107175256
They are an extremely loud & annoying minority, they're the cockroaches of /pcbg/.
Always degrade the overall quality of this general or the entire board.

>>107175221
https://rdn-id.com

>>107175274
The $3000 6090 and $2000 6080 will save us all

I fixed things for the most part. Changed my tv settings to gamer mode and turned on vrr and gsync. I figured out in the nvidia settings performance mode was what was causing the vram to be frozen at 15001. Turning it to normal and restarting let everything go down to normal levels.
Having my hz set at 144 it's pretty smooth for the most part now. There is still a tiny bit of hitching but I have to really be looking for it to notice it. Overall it's much better, appreciate all the help everyone thanks a bunch.

>>107175274
>>107175304
make your own thread nvidia
you can post pics of your custom t-shirts and nvidia style haircuts

>>107175322
imagine the sheer joy it would be to have this guy tied to a chair and smash their kneecaps with a hammer

>>107175274
amd is using 2nm
nvidia is using 3nm
lisa su is going for the win

>>107175297
I regret getting that motherboard. Had so many problems with it. That little button to move the gpu metal bar thing that's supposed to hold it in doesn't seem to do anything. I would move it in and out and the gpu still pushes in and pulls out with no change.
The little screws/tabs that are supposed to hold the nvme drives are in the wrong spot I had to take one out and move it closer and another one was just welded to the heat spreader and couldn't even be separated so I can't use the 3rd slot at all.

>>107175322
We're not the ones who are brand-warring.
Go make your own /AMD Linux pcbg/ and you can shitpost about Microsoft not continuing driver work that AMD abandoned.
This retard doesn't even know this link >>107175306 is further proof that other people are working on driver support that AMD abandoned.

>radeon idiots thinking they won
>Literally 0 mentions of RADEON presentations for the first time in AMD history

Pic related is 2022 (last time this happen) and on the left today presentations

Sources 2022
https://ir.amd.com/news-events/2022-financial-analyst-day

2025 https://ir.amd.com/news-events/financial-analyst-day

Is over AMD is abandoning Radeon and gamers

>>107175360
>Is over AMD is abandoning Radeon and gamers
i guess they really like copying nvidia then

>>107175360
>Jack Huynh Senior Vice President & General Manager, Computing & Graphics Group

how fast is your pc?
https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.1/

>>107175374
Yes, All Radeon divison does is APU's solutions and consoles, its rumored that the next discrete gpu's lineup will only have a 192 bus so it doesnt eat away the profits from AMD instincts

in case you cant read, this all started because the nvidianigger/antigaymernexus has to tell everyone he hates them after someone mentioned a video >>107171067

>>107175332
>>107175348
AMD won

>>107175360
>RADEON IS DEAD and buried
dont worry trust the plan 9080 xt announced soon
my favorite e-celeb told me so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=671h7XY2DSY

>>107175410
Based advanced marketer.

>>107175304
Tbf that’s mostly one insane incel who has unfortunately decided to attach himself to that brand in particular. The AMD fans I met at micro center were just like fat dads into building pcs.

>>107175387
This is the first time in the company history since they adquired ATI that the position david wang was not invited to present https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/leadership/david-wang.html

>>107175336
>he think Lisa is gonna sell GPU's with 2nm nodes to gamers
lmao

>>107175343
well shit
what would you have gotten instead? ffs everyone said tomahawk is a reliable choice

>>107175461
2nm cpus
2nm gpus
kill intel and nvidia with one node

>>107175448
There's nothing to talk about Radeon for the near future; the event is for financial analysts, and the gaming division is the company's lowest margin business.

>>107175484
I think anon is right. Nvidia will probably just have intel make their gaming GPUs going forward on a less advanced node and keep the good TSMC shit for AI/data center. AMD would be foolish not to also save their best chips for the most profitable sector of the market.

>>107175484
no, only venice products

>>107175429
anon are they at least paying you?

>>107175497
It’s just desktop GPU that makes so little money, gaming is otherwise profitable because of consoles. The least profitable is probably like car telemetry or some shit.

>>107175497
this day has always been about GPU's for radeon, its basically the equivalent to nvidia ces in terms of roadmaps and it confirms what everyone has been know for awhile and thats AMD is abandoning Radeon, with DRAM prices skyrocketing it make 0 sense to not focus on the CPU side

>>107175500
>>107175505
there's rumors of amd going chiplet again for gpus. since cpus already use chiplets and they already have experience with rdna 3 and 3.5 they can ramp up faster.

>>107174405
That’s called being an “askhole”

>>107175537
The margins are not there, even during the recet earnings they did not mention RDNA4 as part of their earning highlights, they are just moving out and this confirms it

>>107170953 (OP)
To add to the CPU list, using 7600X3D (AM5), everything CPU-bound runs pretty well.

>>107170953 (OP)
me when I boughted radeon

>>107175515
I'm talking about profit margin (%).
Their CFO admitted that gaming has always been a lower-margin business.
People don't want to pay above $600 for a 9070 XT that has a similar die area as the 5070 Ti & 5080.

The Radeon business knows they have to raise that profit margin %.
You saw some stores with the original 9070 XT retail sticker price of above $800.

So what did AMD announce today

>trying tv as monitor
>Just HDMI 60hz 4k rgb 444
>Blackscreens every time a video player or web browser is out to Fullscreen or made smaller
What is causing this?

>>107175571
The end of Radeon

>>107175568
I don’t think any of what you just said contradicts my point.

>>107175557
>The margins are not there, even during the recet

>>107175557
>even during the recet earnings they did not mention RDNA4 as part of their earning highlights
very grim even after saying this was the best ever year for a radeon graphics card launch

>>107175583
You dont have a point, cost from making these GPU's are only going to get higher TSMC hiked the price of 2nm nodes and GDDR is even more expensive to make. Gamers are not getting better GPU's next gen.

It's a good thing he speaks chinese, eventually he'll have to go into hiding there

>>107175605
When GloFo gpus with non Hynix/Micron/Nanya/Samsung vram????????
I want new toys to play with

>>107175483
To be fair it could have just been a random error on my board. I called msi support and they sent me a replacement screw for free. I still like msi, you could try getting the board and checking to see if it has any defects before using it. Just take off the heat spreaders and see if the screws stay on the board.
If you want to spend a bit more could go for the 870 instead, might have better quality control.
The other companies still have issues I wouldn't trade for. Like asus having invasive programs or asrock melting cpu's. I think msi is a good safe choice but maybe it still has a few qc issues.

>>107175583
AMD and its investors care more about the profit margin (%), especially when expensive TSMC wafers are needed to make RDNA4 chips.
Selling 6/7nm console APUs is a low-margin (%) business.
Pic is what happens when Sony & Xbox didn't order enough console APUs last year.

>>107174981
>x99 motherboard
>E5 2680 V4
>$44
>expensive
>slow
I don't think you know what you're talking about

People buy raspberry pi's for $77 that doesn't even come with the accessories that you need to make it work

>>107175563
>7600X3D
Im sure it does but its also a matter of availability, i mean i literally wouldnt know where to pick one of those right now

>>107175579
Send help

I think I am not gonna get an IPS/VA monitor with local dimming.
That shit together with HDR is not worth it, cause I don't like eye burning brightness.
For now I will get an IPS with Quantum Dot tech.

No OLED, cause I am not bothered to always think about burn in and have to follow those burn in prevention programs built into the monitor.

>>107175661
might as well spend $30 more and get a ryzen 5500. same multi core, double single core, 1/3 power draw.

>>107175605
I already said that desktop GPU was distinctly unprofitable.
>>107175632
“Lower than company average” doesn’t mean it’s the least profitable. Again, I’d wager it’s some bullshit like auto telemetry or their bmx bike division lmao.

>>107175690
I made the mistake of going miniLED with local dimming for a TV, never again OLED all the way for that. IPS glow sucks but other monitor tech I hate too much to deal with VA smears/OLED burn in

STUPID QUESTION ALERT PLEASE SKIP IF YO ARE OFFENDED BY STUPID QUESTIONS

If i plan to mainly play at 2k is there any reason to purchase a 4k monitor?
So that while i play at 2k i can do the rest of whatever, movies, less demanding desktop apps, etc at 4k

Thank you for your time

>>107175715
Where did you find an AM4 motherboard + Ryzen 5500 for ~$74?

>>107175746
upscaling

>>107175731
>bullshit like auto telemetry or their bmx bike division lmao.
GPUs require significantly larger dies compared to those embedded toys you're talking about.
And that embedded processors don't need to use TSMC 5/4nm wafers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqKJN7MGZGQ

>>107175731
anon think about this,consoles and apu's running RDNA2 sill uses GDDR ram, they still use wafers, the marings on consoles are getting lower not higher

>>107175746
even 1080p looks terrible at 1440p, 1440p on 4K looks like total shit
just buy a 1440p monitor
4K is awful for desktop use without scaling
If you want 4k movies buy a TV. They don't cost shit now since every boomer bought one

>>107175746
1440p to 4k really depends on how the monitor scales it but it's a decimal factor so kinda sucks.

>>107175746
if you buy a 5070 ti on sale for 800€ you can upscale to 4k from 1080p base res

>>107175755
the last time I checked 5500s were $55
they have gone up for some reason
you're right it's very unlikely to get a working am4 board, even a320 for $19

>>107175746
I would get a better 1440p monitor, you can always use super resolution to get 4k textures on your 1440p display without losing fps or latency if you have an nvidia gpu.

>>107175746
4K requires 4K hardware. You will have to run upscaling in game to output shit to 4K so it doesn't look like ass. That'll require a 5070ti minimum. If you want to avoid that headache/cost just get a 2K monitor.

RX 10000 vs RTX 6000

>>107175782
>>107175789
Can you explain that to me like im retarded?
I thought that if my monitor was 4k and im in windows at 4k blablabla when i launch my game and set the resolution to 1440p it would look perfectly like 1440p, wont it? i mean that was my whole plan.
Okay as i was writing it i think i got it, it would do a 1440p as a window than then i would have to full screen and that is what wouldnt look right?

>>107175818
no, set the resolution to 4k and use FSR/XeSS/TSR/TAA upscaling

>>107175811
yeah but i what i wanted and made sense in my head was doing desktop and office shit and youtube and porn at 4k and then launching demanding shit at 2k and it would look like perfect 2k, then i realized where im wrong in >107175818

Like if right now i launch a game in 720p or 540p and then full screen it

Carry on anons. Thank you for enteraining my stupidity

>>107175818
it will looks worse, you are better buying a 1440p monitor and using super resolution to watch movies at 4k on it, if you have an nvidia gpu right now test it for yourself is called DLDSR and should be avaliable on your nvidia app

>>107175839
>is called DLDSR and should be avaliable on your nvidia app
it was on the nvidia control panel not the app, not sure i understand what it does, it processes the image on the native resolution and then downscale it to the limit or my monitor?

I'm finally looking to replace my old GTX 1070 ti for something newer. Right now, I'm considering the Intel B580. I play games a 1080p, so would this card be a good upgrade for my system?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mGb9b2

>>107175681
>>107175579
Ai helping me better than bots here

Change video renderer in mpc hc and it doesn't flicker
For browser it might be hardware acceleration? Will try disabling

Why do tv over HDMI do this? Monitor never did

>>107175908
No. Buy a new cpu first and gpu later.

>>107175947
Can't afford to do that. I've got $300 and getting a new CPU would mean a new mobo and RAM.

>>107175908
You can't use Intel Arc. Those cards require resizeable bar to work properly and that started with 10th gen intel. It's the biggest irony that their budget card will not work on budget/older CPUs. There are hacky mods for getting resizeable bar on older CPUs but those are totally unsupported by Intel.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000091128/graphics/intel-arc-dedicated-graphics-family.html

You should look at a 9060XT because that would at least use the full bandwidth of your PCIE 3.0x16 socket, the Nvidia equivalents will only run at PCIE 3.0x8.

>>107170953 (OP)
Just bought an open box Gigabyte RTX 5070 for $430, how did I do?
My prior GPU was a RTX 3070 and I was hindered by 8gb vram for awhile now.

>>107175978
keep using your current system, what's wrong with it?
the b580 is a very cool card but their driver requires very high single core performance

>>107175978
5060 would be the only real choice at 300
a possibly better option is look at used market for maybe 4070
5060 ti 16gb new on sale

>>107175997
good shit good price
nvidia's been allowing lots of aggressive price cuts for it because they are limiting the 5060TI 16GB run because yep no vram

>>107175978
keep using it until those 300$ become enough to get a
>9060xt 16gb
or
>5060TI 16gb
in your country.
Full stop.

>>107171846

stories tell haswell not bad with big numbers

>>107175997
what model? i mean at the very worst you saved 100$ and from there it only goes up
Enjoy your new shit anon

>>107175896
yes

>>107175908
your only optiob is a 9060 xt

>>107175908
If you understand what you're getting yourself into buying arc, sure.
Are you sure you have resizable bar support?

>>107171846
Technically this is a die shrink of Haswell, I upgraded (sidegraded?) to this xeon from a i7-5930k, cost me only $55.
Gonna use this Haswell setup until I need the more advanced instruction set.

>>107176098
downgraded*

Willing to spend from 100-400 usd to upgrade one or a few aspects of the computer. Came here because I downloaded red dead redemption 2 and can't play online. Call of duty is another game i play online that I play on a very low setting with these specs. What do you guys think could be one or two or three upgrades that would be a good idea here for 1-4 hundred usd? I greatly appreciate your consideration

Specs:
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz, 2808 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 6 Logical Processor(s)

BaseBoard Product TUF H370-PRO GAMING WIFI

Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 16.0 GB

Name NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

Power supply: cx650m

>>107176033
Yeah, I was looking at 5060Ti 16GB models for awhile due to the price point was good enough for the stuff I do. But saw this open box price and just had to get it over a 5060.

>>107176053
GV-N5070WF3OC-12GD
Thanks anon!

>>107176121
9060XT
32GB RAM (Good luck lol)

>>107176121
You are in the same boat as this anon >>107175908
so your only option is a 9060 XT because of this >>107175988

>>107176121
not much you can do, maybe drop in a used $100-150 gpu

>>107176114
I don't feel that it has perform any less than my 5930k feels at least the same or better especially with tasks that requires multi-core/threads.

>>107176121
ngl you should just look at a used 3060
i wouldn't spend more than $200 upgrading that since you're on the i5-8400

>>107176143
what was your 5930k overclocked to?

>>107176121
9060xt 16gb or 5060TI 16gb, anything below is e-waste
Then start saving to replace... well literally everything else, with time

Ngl after using more hz using 60 specifically with a mouse it feels like you are dragging your shit through mud and your inputs are missing, idk
Maybe the 500hz pill is the real deal

>>107176124
>GV-N5070WF3OC-12GD
550$ according to pcpp on the us of a
So its a 120$ pull, gj

>>107176079
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>>107175988
Would saving an extra hundred bucks be worth it to get a 9060 XT? Has anyone used such a GPU with a CPU as old as mine?
>>107176023
I'd like the 5060 if it came with more VRAM. My GPU currently has 8gb and it seems so strange that modern Nvidia GPUs still have so little. If there was a 5060 with 12gb of VRAM like the 3060, I'd probably get that.

>>107176156
The last time, maybe 5-6 years ago, I tried to OC using preset values by my motherboard's application (gigabye), it was very unstable and I just went back to stock speeds and never thought about it again.

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>>107176131
Alright, thanks for the replies.

New update: 1000 dollars, is that enough or more than enough even to give me something doable for current games?

>>107176190
under no circumstance buy a card with 8 ram
you are gonna be saving until you can get a 5060TI or 9060xt, either of those (the 9060 is cheaper) with 16gb NOT THE 8gb versions
Anything below that is literal waste
If you need to buy something below those consider a used card as you keep saving

>>107176190
Well its the best that you can get, unless you are looking into the used market, right now if you want over 8gb VRAM with a brand new card with wararnty your only options are the 9060 XT or the 5060 TI

>>107176209
I don't know, try it with different cpus like intel 12400+, ryzen 7600+. see if you can fit in 9060xt 16gb, 5070 12gb, 5060ti 16gb

>>107176209
we can work with 1k, we ll find you something
USA? cya next thread ill check a pcpp list for you

>>107176209
If you are in the US unironically look into prebuildts, DRAM and SSD (storage and ram) are over the moon so if there is any prebuild with the following expect it may be worth looking into

>am5
>32gb of ram
>9600-7600x
>9060XT/5060 TI (MAKE SURE IS THE 16GB VERSION, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT)
>SSD IS NVME (IMPORTANT
then compare how expensive is to get each piece in amazon

>>107175669
I ordered it from a local PC hardware store, the guy there knew where to order it from, and it arrived about a couple of weeks later.

>>107176347
They are very rare in the US and EU markets, very limited launch

>>107174806
MSIs website has mobo discounts + cpu bundle deal, can add a 9800x3d for $400, a 7800x3d for $300.

>>107175410
Anon I still have no clue what to go with T.T
help

>>107177168
just get a 5070ti for msrp and stop overthinking it.

>>107177272
what if i dont want to?

>>107177318
Cram it up your ass, the bodies natural electricity generation will power it.