Thread 107173235

>dry eyes
>Night vision problems
>Double vision
>Halos
Yea I'll be wearing lenses instead

>>107173235 (OP)
>Halos
Yeah those seem to be the worst. One guy in my friend group fell for this meme and its so shit that basically everyone he knows is now convinced never to do lasik or anything similar.

I got it done in 1999, and it has worked great for 20+ years. Only now I am considering wearing glasses again. And only really to drive at night.

>>107173235 (OP)
Here's the funny part, most of the eye surgeon wear glasses LOL

>>107173440
cross my heart, hope to die..

>>107173235 (OP)
I did it because of sports and bikes. I can't see too well under non-natural light or near sundown. I don't have any other issues tho, and I'm the only one I know who has complaints about the quality of his eyesight.

>>107173235 (OP)
I did it 5 years ago, my eyes are still good.
Halos? Yes, a little bit.
Night vision? Tiny bit worse than pre-LASIK in dusk-like lighting.
Double vision? No problems.
Dry eyes? No problems.

I still wake up every day and appreciate how much of a miracle it is that I can see everything without needing glasses.
Being able to see my feet and body clearly while in the shower is insane even still after 5 years.
All you good-vision havers have no idea how fortunate you are, bad eyesight is a fuckin sham.

>>107173235 (OP)
LASIK is outdated. They have some new shit these days where they make a small hole on your cornea and put a lense through it. It can be removed later if you don't like the result.

>>107173377
>20+ years

So it's true. We are stuck here forever.

>>107175025
So JUST like Glasses but 100x the cost, plus all the fun of operations and potential complications?

>>107173235 (OP)
A number of people have suicided because of this surgery lol...

>>107173502
>I did it because of sports and bikes
I don't do sports, but I wear contact lenses, and I don't see why people wouldn't just do that
>I can't see too well under non-natural light or near sundown.
This sounds fucking terrifying to me.
>I'm the only one I know who has complaints about the quality of his eyesight.
From what I can see, most normalfags just don't care. They just enjoy not wearing glasses during the day and take everything else as a minor inconvenience.

>>107173235 (OP)
>he doesn't have natty 20/10 vision and needs to rely on gay opticians to correct his flawed optics
Deformed freaks like you should be shot dead.

>>107173235 (OP)
don't forget, probably get cataracts too.

>>107175025
so... cataract surgery, but for general vision improvement? what the fuck?

>>107173235 (OP)
I will never understand those who choose to do this rather than just wearing glasses.
Also I hope that one day gene editing can solve this, if the body built the eyes wrong then surely we can correct the body to force it to build it right.

>>107175750
glasses are gay.
t. need glasses, but wouldn't do lasik.
contacts suck too though... real shitty situation.

>>107175750
Glasses are gay
t. had LASIK

>>107175750
>vanity is one of the seven deadly sins
>retards get lasik because they're vain
>retards get punished

>>107175750
we could sterilize everyone who has eyesight problems and let the numbers game do its job

>>107173235 (OP)
i did it. have none of the things you mentioned. what i did was i had no physical contact with my eyes for almost two years post op

>>107174987
>Being able to see my feet and body clearly while in the shower is insane even still after 5 years.
I might bite the bullet just for this. I miss my sight, man, what a cruel life

>>107175750
glasses are bad in one situation. if you ever get in a fight. some retard was trying to start a fight with me in town one night when i was out drinking first thing he did was reach for my glasses and throw them on the floor i was completely blind luckily my mate was there he grabbed my arm and we ran away but if i had to fight i literally would not have seen the guy

>>107175750
>if the body built the eyes wrong then surely we can correct the body to force it to build it right.
also the eyes arent build wrong the part of the eye that focuses is a msucle and looknig at clsoe up objects for too long and too much make the front of the eye change shape so it become bad at focusing on things far away. it can be fixed but its slow and a pain in the ass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Efg42-Qn0

>>107177679
What do wwf wrestlers and boxers do? They can’t all have good vision can they?

>>107177679
That's why you always equal the playing field first and go straight for the eyes. Hell even if you don't wear glasses and especially if you're a woman, i.e. you have several disadvantages from the get go, ALWAYS go for the attackers eyes.
I never had to do it myself but a family friend did when I was young. Guy attempts to rob him and he (literally) pokes both his eyes out before the fag could even finish steal his wallet. Thank god we don't live in a cuck state where you have to lie down and get raped.

>>107177725
Most of them just have good vision, but the unlucky few with shitty eyes get PRK laser eye surgery (not the same procedure as LASIK).

>>107177725
Also it seems everyone is assuming its either "perfect eyes" or "can't see your own hand," if your eyes aren't too bad you don't really need perfect vision for hand to hand combat.

kek fucking retarded /g/ermins don't even know the difference between lasik, PKR, SMILE and ICL. you have to do your research before getting one of these procedures. doctors will not be honest and just shill for whatever their laser clinic is capable of, even if there's better stuff out there. don't be surprised about mediocre results when the laser takes more than 10 seconds per eye. Personally I like to gatekeep, but since we are talking about your fucking eyes, my sincere advice: ZEISS Visumax 800 / MEL 80, SCHWIND AMARIS 1050RS, or GO HOME!

>>107177697
>fix myopia
>literally the same mechanism as presbyopia
You can't fix myopia unless you carve out your lenses

>>107173235 (OP)
Every person I talk to who's had Eye surgery tells me that they have ZERO side affects

Then I start to notice things.
They are squinting at PC screens.
Using reading glasses
Keep using eye drops every hour
Itches eyes all the time.

NO SIDE EFFECTS HUH?

I have had the maximum correction done (10.0+) and it's night and day. The side effects are definitely worth it.

Glasses suck.

i love you all anons

>>107173235 (OP)
How do you get rid of asstigmatism if glasses fuck with headphones and put dust on your eyes, lenses don't work well with astigmatism and will breed hitler stalin goku vegeta fusion'd bacteria if you ever sleep with em and LASIK is a ponzi that gives you severe photophobia and worsens the problem?
Like what is the real solution to have perfect vision that doesn't suck

>>107179291
Squinting at PC screens and needing reading glasses has nothing to do with the LASIK procedure which is designed to fix nearsightedness.

>>107179305
Mine were only at 4.5 when I had time done and it was fucking incredible the first time I was able to see without glasses.
I can't imagine the difference going from a 10 would be. Wow.

>>107175025
this sounds a lot less bad than lasik honestly
but i think i'll just stick to normal glasses

>>107179566
Those eye surgery fags told me the procedure swapped their near and far vision.
So they got near perfect far vision but it sacrificed their near vision.
It's a scam.

Don't have surgery on your eyes.
If putting on glasses is too much of a inconvenience, try contacts.
Shit takes seconds to swap in a set.

>>107179691
I had eye surgery. My near vision is completely fine. Anecdotes don't really mean much. "Swapping" near and far vision is definitely not a common side effect, so it sounds like they got really unlucky.
As an aside: Contact lenses are really bad for the eyes if used improperly and you can't sleep with them in without accumulating permanent eye damage and risking infection.

>>107179709
>"Swapping" near and far vision is definitely not a common side effect,
This is true. Your near vision will deteriorate naturally as you age (so you will probably need glasses when you get old (40+)) but laser eye surgery doesn't give you this problem.
What happens in many cases though is that patients do exchange perfect visual integrity, I mean no halos/starbursts/dryness and natural vision in low-light conditions, to a bunch of random problems which can't even be measured let alone cured. You're stuck with them for life.
>Contact lenses are really bad for the eyes if used improperly
And they're safe when used properly, and it really isn't hard to use them.
It's true you can't sleep in them, but I'd rather not see well while sleeping than risk fucking up my eyes.

>>107173235 (OP)
That's why I got PRK instead
Imagine rubbing your eye on reflex and dislodging your gay little flap
The recovery pain is a bitch though

>>107179832
I used contact lenses for a decade prior to LASIK. It really is not the same.
Waking up with clear vision, seeing the dust on the ceiling above your bed.
Seeing your dirty toenails in the shower.
Not needing to worry about managing a supply of contact lenses and cleaning solution. Not worrying about being able to find a spot to take them out. Not worrying about getting an eye infection, or developing permanent corneal damage from wearing a set of lenses too long, or with dry eyes.
Glasses, contacts, LASIK. All have pros and cons.
Bad eyesight is just trash.

>>107179871
I know its a laser blasted into the eye in both cases, but something about a surgeon using an actual blade on the surface of my eye crossed a line. Too sketchy. That's the only reason I went with LASIK instead of PRK. I also think the flap thing is overblown unless you're doing extreme sports.

>>107173235 (OP)
Sorry I'm not dysgenic. Can't relate.

>>107180003
>but something about a surgeon using an actual blade on the surface of my eye crossed a line. Too sketchy
>That's the only reason I went with LASIK
Is there a LASIK for being a fucking retard? PRK doesn't use blades.

I got prescribed -1 glasses at the age of 24. Im guessing it was from all the eye strain from screens. No clue why it took so long.
Anyone have low prescriptions too? I only wear my glasses when I really need to actually see (and read) stuff further than 3 ft away which is only when I drive or go out which is never.

>>107175680
Anon, everyone loses their eyesight eventually.

>>107180233
My parents are retarded and are long sighted now in their old age but instead of just getting corrective glasses they wear reading glasses when they need to look at things closely, as someone who just wears glasses all the time it perplexes me. Like they literally can't use their phones without glasses.

>>107173235 (OP)
shit thread

>>107179871
this is stupid

>>107175035
The first 4chan thread I remember is a thread about anatomically-correct horse buttholes in this new game coming out called The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion

>>107180358
And no, I didn't even see this >>107180346 at the bottom of the thread when I wrote my reply about horse buttholes.

>>107177697
>>107177725
Most people who wear glasses do not depend on them. I can read without mine, it's just inconvenient.

>>107180346
please tell me a horse did that to her and not the human

>>107180282
Isnt that common though?
I feel like I have an uncommon case where I only need glasses to see far away, rather than up close or need glasses on all the time.

I want to get prk instead but I had a minor procedure to lower my eye pressure and that pain was incredible. I don't know if I could handle a week or two of that. My eye center doesn't do the smile surgeries yet I don't think.

>>107173235 (OP)
Prk is superior
>>107175025
Its a much more complicated surgery with high risk of complications and the end results are often worse than lasik

there's a better treatment now, google ICL

>>107177657
Just get contacts anon, they have really good ones now that you can leave in for weeks including overnights and they're super comfortable. Plus if your prescription changes you can just shift.

sungazing works, don't fall for the (((doctors))) and their scams

>>107175750
because every year my eyesight gets worse so you get stronger glasses which in turn makes it much worse etc. lasik stopped that.

>>107181363
Contacts are the worst of all worlds, literally no upsides

>>107173235 (OP)
>he's a subhuman that doesn't have at least one good eye to compensate
>he thinks he needs 20/20 vision at all times
>he wears glasses outside and looks like a complete nerd and a pussy
Wearing glasses makes you look unassuming and weak people will think you're a lil bitch (which you probably are).
Unless close to legally blind you only need them when performing certain tasks like driving, reading etc. No point in walking down the street with that gay accessory on your face.

>>107182031
>you get stronger glasses which in turn makes it much worse
Because you're a retard who thinks he needs 20/20 vision 24/7 and wears them all the time.

>>107182186
Nta but I thought you were suppose to wear glasses 24/7. I just always disregarded that and only wore them when I was driving or at work.

>>107182186
what if I want to enjoy god's beautiful creations in all their glory instead of blurry green blobs vaguely shaped like trees?

>>107182233
He doesn't really need glasses

>>107173235 (OP)
To those who want to hear something that isn't larping:
I got the operation 1 year ago.
Dry eyes lasted for 2 weeks, for 3 days I fels like I had a bit of sand in my eyes. After it was fine.
Eyes get tired quicker if I spend +12hr in front of a screen, no issues spending 8hr a day tho; with glasses, I could spend 12hrs a day watching a screen no problem.
Before, couldn't drive at night confidently. Now I can, not perfect vision during the night, but much better than before.
When it comes to vision quality, same as if I was wearing glasses, but all of my vision instead of just in front unless I wore huge glasses, more on that I see line straight, whereas before I couldn't judge whether something was straight or not due to the curvature of the glasses.

The operation itself was bad, but with good results. In my case I lost consciousness due to being nervous, shortly after the operation. Pissed myself even.
The anesthesia didn't work for an eye, so it hurt when the corneal cut was performed, that was a bitch, after that the laser and re-folding of the flap do not hurt, it's just annoying: feels like someone pokes your eye with their finger and moves it around, doesn't hurt much aside from the cut.

Definitely recommand building up a tolerance to having your eyes messed with. I am guessing poking your own eye in front of a mirror with your finger (washed with soap beforehand), carefully, by touching the white area, would be enough to make the operation a breeze; I was afraid of using the antiseptic drops they give you 3 days before the operation so that should have been a sign the operation was going to be a bitch for me.

All in all, I give the operation a score of 9/11, would do again since the sheer improvement to my eyesight and being able to drive through the night without running over a kid was worth it.

>>107181170
what about SILK procedure which seems to be the newest one - has anyone done it to share his experience? i've read also about SmartSight and T-PRK, but SILK seems to be the best of all those recent ones

>>107182176
caring of what other people will think is weak, gay and womanly

>>107173235 (OP)
Ask yourself, why do the people working in Lasik clinics never do the procedure and always wear glasses?

>Circumsizing the Cornea
Surely we have better technology cooking up?

>>107183598
of course https://spectrum.ieee.org/electrochemistry-for-eye-surgeries

>>107175750
Some of us don't want to be condemned to a lifetime of being alone and having zero gfs

>>107179305
>Mfw you would still need to wear glasses or contacts even with Lasik
Literally pointless for me. Plus, I know someone that it fucked their vision up and apparently the corneal incision they make never really fully heals.

>>107182111
I've worn contacts since I was 9. It's all about getting a good optometrist, which apparently is hard as fuck to find. A woman at a Sam's Club Opthalmology center changed my life 15 years ago.
>Do your contacts feel like they are rotating in your eye?
>HOW THE FUCK DID YOU KNOW THAT
>Try these
Cooper Vision FTW. My vision sucks so bad that it's hard to wear glasses. If I put glasses on after I take my contacts out, I can't drive anywhere for a few hours until my eyes adjust.

>zero (0) advancements in cybernetic augmentation tech
We could have cyber-eyes that have zero of these issues but no, nothing good ever happens.

Contact lens chads will soon have smart lense tech and still have their cornea intact and uncircumsized.

>>107173235 (OP)
>>107184671
>Lasik
>Contact lens
>chads
imagine even needing shit like this in the first place lmao

>>107173235 (OP)
They can grow hearts and ears, I wonder when they will be able to grow eyes so you can just have it replaced with a working pair.

>>107185751
Would be nice. With my contacts out, I might as well be actually blind.

>Too much attack and the mission fails
>Forced to send waterboy since he is literally the only people I can send with punch up without failing the mission
>Fail because I don't have enough combat
This is quite literally some bullshit right here, that's two failure states in one