Thread 107175720

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>What is GNU/Linux?
wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy
>Which GNU/Linux distribution should I choose?
nosystemd.org
gnu.org/distros
>What are some cool programs for GNU/Linux?
suckless.org/rocks
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>What are some cool terminal commands and where can I learn the command line?
commandlinefu.com
mywiki.wooledge.org
>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
fsf.org
stallman.org
>How to break out of the botnet?
privacytools.io
system76.com
prism-break.org
privacyguides.org
thinkpenguin.com
wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_hardware


GNU/Linux Games:>>>/vg/lgg
Previous thread:>>107158506

linux is a server OS
and this is why its actually useful unlike winshit

>>107169961
How rustfucked is Trixie?
How rustfucked is MX25?
Asking for a fren.

Anyone like the idea of a slowed down tumbleweed?

Bring back RTFM culture. Spoonfeeders get ovened.

>>107175823
>rustfucked
fuck off, retard. hating rust irrationally is a sign of low iq.

>>107175825
it's shit. i tried it hoping for muh-extra-stability-but-not-outdated-af-as-leap. and it kept fucking up my tiling wm session because of some broken-ass kitty or hyprland package. rolling-release or stable. don't do halfway, it's shit.

>>107175795
Im having issues with waybar

my power-profiles-daemon icon is disappearing but only when hyprland/window module is used and has windows showing (in text)
ive tried moving the power-profiles module and it behaves the same.
removing hyprland/window module fixes the issue. this started a few days ago

the module looks like this:


"hyprland/window": {
"format": "{}",
"on-click": "wofi --show drun"


anyone knows whats up?

>>107175864
>hating rust irrationally is a sign of low iq.
My sides.

arch linux help
I'm running
pacman -Qtdq | pacman -Rns -
to clear orphaned packages, and specifically included the t in the initial query to prevent including optional dependencies, yet it still comes up with pic related...
no I DON'T want to remove orphans that are optional dependencies, what am I missing here?

>>107175891
>it's all over because one CVE
if CVEs were a reason to stop using a language, then C/C++ were over long ago.
you've proved yourself even dumber than originally thought.

>>107175906
>because just this one thing
LMAO
Your smell like genital mutilation.

>>107175906
has rust finally improved their abysmal coompiling times? and also optimized their dogshit compilation in general?
i remember trying to coompile gentoo packages on a 2 Gb RAM laptop and failing because of rust despite even trying to use a pagefile and doing the set up exactly how wiki was suggesting it to do for 2 Gb of RAM

>>107175695
i just did a manual arch install and used just plasma and everything is working fine with KDE, i also avoided KDE-applications and installed my preferred ones later one-by-one

>>107175928
bye, ctroon
>>107175954
I don't use it actively. I'm just skeptical of the skeptics. whether they have the credibility to even make accusations against it while C/C++ are hardly considered bulletproof. I use Python/Go in my work (I don't do systems-level code).

>>107175906
>you've proved yourself
blazingly fast saaar

>>107175984
>I use Python/Go in my work
>in my work
Streetshitting subhuman

>>107175991
>>107176000
ah yes, here come the predictable copes. I only mentioned those languages because they always bait retards in with the usual pajeet accusations. I'm not even attacking C/C++. I'm saying rust is no worse on the same metrics. the fact that you losers need to adhom attack means you lost the debate.
you do irrationally hate rust otherwise you would also attack C/C++ for having a far larger amount of vulns.

>>107176049
>for having a far larger amount of vulns.
>the language is the programmers
Fucking streetshitting subhuman.
Your fucked syntax is what gave you away, not your toylangs, btw.

>>107176080
what fucked syntax? go ahead, point out what I wrote wrong.

>point out what I wrote wrong.
Jeets can't into near-native

>>107176091
>what I wrote wrong
DO NOT REDEEM SAAR

>>107176106
see, this is the kind of shit you would write after being unable to prove me wrong about C/C++. why even have this debate anymore?
onus is you niggers to prove Rust is significantly more vulnerable than C/C++, and you know it's not, therefore you avoid the actual point.

Does anyone here have experience getting linux to run on older apple handhelds? I've heard gentoo plays nice with apple hardware and it's not a deal breaker if it has to go there.

>why even have this debate anymore?
fucking LMAO I can't NOT read this shit in rajesh koothrapali's voice

>>107176126
>onus is you niggers
my english very good you blaady benchod

>>107175823
I too want to know this, I'm feeling quite hoppy today.

>>107176149
>>107176150
you keep acting like I wrote something "near-native", you're applying that word like the schizoid jumping-at-shadows niggers you are.
and you still can't prove C/C++ doesn't also lead to CVEs.
again, why have this debate? Rust didn't claim to be perfect you niggers. also this is the Linux thread.

>you keep acting like I wrote something "near-native"
>muh reading comprehension

>muh "near-native"
>I will just use terms like "near-native" because I can't prove you wrong, just give me the win, stop replying pls
heh

>you keep acting like I wrote something "near-native"
KEEEK HE KEEPS DOING IT

>>107176272
Sar, this is a linux thread.

>now the nigger is parroting my words >107176180

think I win this one. Rust is good enough just as C/C++ were considered good enough despite having fucktons of CVEs.

its gnu/linux sir

>i win things on the internet
>im a winner

couldnt imagine putting windows on a server, aah done for the day think ill go for a nap!, pull out my phone to check on the server (installing updates cause it wasnt being used for 10min in the evening please wait

>>107175823
Bumping up my own post.

the ctroon left.

>>107176414
Stop streetshitting the thread retard.

>>107175871
You deserve it for being a tinkertranny

> macOS -> Ubuntu -> Fedora -> Tumbleweed -> Arch
where to next?

>>107175825
no. what's the point of slow rolling? constant updates yet it's still out of date? i prefer fedora; it has releases but is always up-to-date

>>107176466
tinkertranny, jeet, every day, every thread
what happened to the classics like faggot and kike
i bet a lot of /g/ are kikes

>>107175825
Slowroll: truly the CentOS Stream of openSUSE – can't wait for them to kill off Leap to try and force everyone onto SLES

>>107176470
time to take it all home

>>107176483
anon... jeets are faggots
why do you think they love rust so much?

>>107176483
>tinkertranny
Kikes made that one up. Agreed btw.

>>107176503
jeets loving rust is a new one, I got accused of being a jeet because I use Python/Go at work. yet in the same thread I'm also getting accused of being a jeet because I think Rust should be held to the same standard as C/C++.
pick a fucking lane. eventually people will announce they use C# and Java and *not* get called jeets. I recall when those were the jeet languages and Python was the white man's language. and at some point Rust was the white man's language or at least the troon's language (i.e. inherently white but ghey). and now even Rust is jeet.
make it make sense. 4chan is fucking absurd, and yes it always was but recently it's just spiralling into a morass of shit.

>>107176543
>Python was the white man's language
Huh???????????
>and at some point Rust was the white man's language
EH????????????????
>4chan is fucking absurd
Ahh...
LURK MOAR NEWFAG.

>>107176577
I've been here since Dorner shot up a couple of pigs you stupid nigger faggot. Long before that, come to think of it. But at least since then.

>>107176483
>>107176518
I'm a newcomer to /g/, just been living in a bubble I guess. The divide and conquer is STRONG on this board. The glow makes one want to get iodine pills.

>>107176601
yeah, retards gonna retard ig. they're always spiralling like asspies because they need something to hate.

I don't know who's streetshitting who anymore.

Greetings
Im looking for a window manager if someone knows the name thatd be great
its similar to powertools (as in microsoft windows) in that you can split off new windows into preconfigured sizes and easily allocated space (ie snap on or off)
you can also do a cool thing of merging numerous windows, and then resizing them simultaneously as one big window, but they're still partitioned off from one another
Regards

>>107176587
So you were ahead of the curve?

>don't use any programming languages except for c/c++ otherwise you're retarded. you're only allowed to use /faglet/-approved languages. don't touch python or go or rust even though they are industry standards, because autismo reasons
ah, so you were retarded all along. my mistake for entertaining you this long.

>>107175823
>>107176173
if you're asking about the whole Rust in apt debacle, hasn't happened yet. uutils and such are also only on Ubuntu for now.

>>107176683
I started using the internet in 1996.

>>107176621
time spent seething is time that could be spent compiling!!

>>107176671
what you are describing is called tiling window managers
which specific one i have no idea

>>107176711
meh, this is my downtime after work. guess I could be watching some show or whatever.

>>107176671
all tiling wms do this

can you stupid fucking niggerfaggots go shit up some other fucking thread?
its a friendly gnu linux thread
you cant claim to be white if you are incapable of upholding social contracts
i swear to god we now need our own fucking jannitor just for inbreds like you

>>107176713
>>107176726
I see... well thats good news, thanks!

>>107176671
I know exactly what you're talking about and herbsluftwm does exactly that, check it out. don't know of any other that do so

about 90% certain the retards calling others jeets are jeets themselves

>>107176701
Thanks! that's good to read.
My narrowed down situation is:
>currently on MX23.6
>heckin' love it cus just werks
thinking of either:
>stay
>hop on to MX25
>hop on to pure Trixie
>hop on to pure Bookworm
Would love to read /fglt/'s experience with Trixie actually if you fags have had any. Also with MX25.

>>107176759
don't use "fork" distros. use either debian or arch. those are the only 2 distros that matter anymore. anything else is pointless.

>>107176759
I have a debian trixie computer I use for making music/3d modeling/drawing, never have to reboot, can build weird old synths from source, does everything I need it to. I stopped liking how gnome looks after a while, but I don't think I'd go back to xfce and it's not a trixie thing anyway. I feel like it works better than bookworm did, but can't really give that in numbers. Sorry if that was not what you needed to know!

is there a way to install everything that I have installed currently on Mint to a fresh install of Mint?
like a program that detects all the packages/programs I have installed on this machine and creates a macro so I can install it on a clean Mint?

>>107176838
you can get a list of packages in a text file and then just feed it to the apt

>>107176737
These are some sharty related proxy posters or even bots. Pay no attention to them.

>>107176869
sounds good
how do I do that?

>>107176838
>>107176931
Yes! There are several reliable methods to backup and restore your installed packages in Linux Mint. Let me show you how to do this effectively.

# On current system - backup
dpkg --get-selections > ~/package_list.txt

# Transfer package_list.txt to new system

# On new system - restore
sudo dpkg --set-selections < ~/package_list.txt
sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade

>>107176931
https://askubuntu.com/questions/17823/how-to-list-all-installed-packages
seems to have a mix of old and new answers but i think you will find at least something that will work

>>107176478
How are monthly updates out of date? You also don't get version jumps like in fedora

best distro for high-speed/low-latency stock trading?

>>107177167
Gentoo

>>107175720 (OP)
The latest ZorinOS seems pretty nice, having apt,flatpak and snapd out of the box seems useful for the newbies. Whys is snap le bad again? I notice installing a program with snap creates a snap folder in my home directory , is this due to some sandboxing?

>>107177441
auto updates are on by default, it's only supported on Ubuntu (and those downstream of Ubuntu), flatpaks already exist. There's also a hilarious amount of disk space overhead for running snaps that makes flatpak's engorging look mild.
The only real upside of snaps is you can run CLI tools with snap. You can't with flatpak.

>>107177441
they're fine but sometimes have bugs that the same program on other formats wouldn't have. they're pretty convenient on Ubuntu but it doesn't exclusively package anything I really need so I don't really use it outside Ubuntu.
nowadays the hate is either people that haven't checked in in the last 5 years or "canonical bad".

Holy fucking shit I hate pipewire
This retarded, completely unneeded garbage pile of a project pauses media on device switch with no way to disable this piece of shit of a "feature"

>>107177607
I've figured it out, but I had to fucking sift through this trash fire's of a project issue tracker.
Fuck pipewire devs, fuck every single cunt that decided to use it in their application, and fuck arch mainteners for including it
Here's what to do, if anyone need it
wpctl settings --save linking.pause-playback false

>>107177441
>Whys is snap le bad again?
It has lots of bad PR: tricking people into installing snaps with apt, proprietary backend and the Steam snap is so broken Valve isn't happy about it.

>>107175891
Most rust devs (and their managers up to the C-level) believe that the rust compiler magically protects them from bugs so they don’t have to test anything. Money saved!!!! We’re just seeing the very tip of this iceberg.

https://www.phoronix.com/news/sudo-rs-security-ubuntu-25.10
This is two more cve's than sudo has had in the last two years btw...

So the big rust rewrite is how we shoot ourselves in the foot after the wayland mess? Great. Maybe in 15 years everything will be rewritten in rust and we'll be back at the starting point

>>107178419
Why would they do this? If fedora or arch did it i would understand.

>>107178419
>Another change is also made to not treat backspace as a password character when the password is empty.
HOLY SHIT DO RUST DEVS REALLY

>>107178455
How old Wayland exactly is now? More than a decade now and it's still a mess.
Tells a lot about their lack of competence and/or project management.
Incredible...

New thing bad, old thing good. It's always been and will forever be that way.

Today I've experienced my first kernel panic. After forcefully shutting down the system and rebooting, everything seems fine. Should I be worried?

>>107178584
>new thing in question:

>>107178711
depends in the source of panic
if its RAM you should probably run a round of memtest

>>107178549
I have been using it for years and have never had a problem. Maybe you need a macbook?

>>107178962
Your personal problems don't tell anything about the technical issues behind the scenes.

>>107175864
No it's not. Rust is a toy language that solves nothing. Look at the whole coreutils written in C, it just works for decades. On top of that, the syntax is unmaintainable. Why introduce another dependency for no reason?

yeah and who's gonna stop me

>>107179127
It's insanity. C wouldn't been used for over 50 years now if it was a disaster.

>>107178731
I wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary and there's plenty of RAM so it couldn't have run out of memory unless both RAM sticks shat themselves.
Running memtest as I post. No errors so far.

>>107179127
>for no reason?
For licencing reasons, of course.

i wrote my first flake and had it accepted into a major project.

>>107179173
have you seen circus that is preprocessor macros to get basic functionality?
Do you know what a disgusting mess POSIX makes code?
God read the source for "yes.c"(simply spams yes to stdout. that's it.) and tell me what it does without 30 minutes of research.

>be le tranny
>rustfuck the shit out of everything
>self-demoralise
many such cases

>>107175889
Honestly I think the hyprland/window module is just broken. Back when I used to use hyprland waybar would freeze if the module was enabled and the text changed too quickly and too frequently or something

You guys have any idea how to get hardware exceleration working on brave with mint and intel? I installed brave with curl, maybe that's a problem idk. I've spend way to long on this

>>107179953
You *are* running it on xwayland, right Anon?

>>107179774
POSIX standard is there for a reason, otherwise the operating system wouldn't be Unix compliant.
It's not tied to C only.
Seems like you have a problem with some political issues.

I'm on a brand new install of openSUSE Tumbleweed, and I'm experiencing something weird.
If I ctrl+F and type text that doesn't exist on the page, the notification sound I get is all fucked up.
https://vocaroo.com/1k7gtMfb4gCD
I don't know much about linux since I'm so new to it, does anyone have any idea what could be causing this? Discord audio and youtube audio are all fine, if I test my volume levels the ding sound is completely fine. It's JUST this notification sound. Every browser I've tried does the same thing.

>>107180026
paying for posix certification is something that no one wants any part of anymore. sick of this boomer retard shit.

>>107180295
I experience this with tumbleweed as well. I've never been able to determine where this notification sound originates from, as changing sound packs in plasma-settings doesn't really do shit. If the sound bothers you, you can always go to `about:config` in firefox and set `accessibility.typeaheadfind.enablesound` to `false`

>>107180006
No, xorg. Umm... why? It should work, right?

>>107180377
x11 is 40 years of legacy code dating back to when Reagan ruled the Earth, are you really that surprised that shit just breaks?

>>107178419
Compared to how many CVEs issued for sudo as whole?
They're doing alright. Security is hard and the impact is low which is what really matters.

>>107180333
In your experience, is it ONLY from ctrl+F that this happens?

I installed some program through commandline using sudo zypper, but none of the programs I installed show up in Discover. Is there anything I can do to make them show up in Discover without uninstalling them or installing duplicate files?

>>107180542
What are you trying to want to show up? Discover doesn't list all packages, it usually just lists apps and flatpaks and not libraries or other types of packages.

>saves the linux desktop
>gives you a display server that just fucking werks

>but muh HDR!
Meme tech that no one uses and games/videos will never fully support
>but muh multimonitor different refresh rates!
Buy the same fucking monitor


I will never use wayland. Linux works fine. Also debian+XFCE is all you need.

Make a bash script to install and configure everything you need for your preferences. This modern distro bloat has to stop

>>107180533
yes, and only within firefox

>>107180554
HDR is just a different colour space, there's no meme tech about it and nothing for a game/video to support, either it is HDR or it isn't and there's a lot of HDR content out there now.

anyone work with LaTeX? how's your setup? do you install full texlive directly or with some sort of sandboxing? i'm using toolbx right now and it feels janky for live previewing.

>>107180554
pol brainrot

>>107180507
They're reimplementing something that should've never been built in the first place and making the exact same mistakes.

>>107180777
They actually did take care to not repeat many past mistakes. If you look at their commits they often reference many past sudo CVEs and program defensively. They're still only human though.

>>107180718
I didn't say anything political though.

These are just my experiences with linux over years. Literally anything other than debian+XFCE with a custom setup script doesn't work for real OS daily use and its one of the reason why linux wont ever be massively popular IMO.

Thunar is just that good, xarchiver is just that good, XFCE is just that good and I have not found a single DE or TWM that can beat it.

Yes I've tried all the beginner distros like mint they are all slow or not good enough for my use as a game dev.

Cinnamon is really slow and nemo is the worst file manager on linux. Thunar is instant and loads folders with thousands of files instantly. It just werks

In a perfect world my perfect desktop would be

>debian
>XFCE with its stuff like thunar, xarchiver
>X11
>pipewire
>lightdm
>adwaita-dark default
>mint-y-icons
>mint updater
>mint app store

That's literally what I'm using now minus the mint updater and mint store, that's the perfect linux desktop right there.

>>107180795
Sounds like a you problem.

I think tiling WMs are a complete meme but for MDI interfaces it's acutally perfect. I wish the win32 MDI pieces of shit I was stuck using at work behaved like Acme or Emacs.

>>107180794
>program defensively
What retardation is this? You program defensively by not trying to deliver what you can't verify. How many CVEs does doas have on OpenBSD? Zero.

>>107180847
Doas is also missing half of the features sudo has. It's debatable whether or not they're needed but when you're writing a re-implementation of sudo you kind of have to have them even though sudo-rs does omit several features, the core is still there.

Is it normal for linux to hang for a couple seconds, unresponsive, when clicking to the desktop?
openSUSE tumbleweed, KDE plasma

>>107180952
Maybe? I was getting this first time I installed TW on a btrfs partition. Was able to fix it by disabling caching with sudo btrfs quota disable /

Since then I've reinstalled TW and the annoying ass freezing issues disappeared without the need to disable caching for whatever reason

>>107180952
what's your memory situation? i have this happen whenever i OOM when generating pics.

anus

>>107180923
More like 90%. If sudo were installed on an as-needed basis it would have <100k users. It's crazy how many distros ship it by default out of sheer inertia. On top of polkit no less.

>>107181060
32 gigs

it really is kinda crazy that doas hasn't taken off. they could've just aliased it to sudo and most people wouldn't have noticed it.

>>107181112
what about your swap? did you look at it while this was happening? i have a system monitor in my panel at the bottom to see if i'm swapping too hard.

>>107181118
Nope, easy as it goes.

>>107181105
Anon, how do you think polkit gets root?

I just switched to Linux Mint and so far i have found it easy to use. Yet i am looking for good replacements for these:
>notepad / notepad++
>print screen - i would like to be able to take screenshots/record videos and define the area where this happens
>mspaint / paint.net

>>107181284
>notepadqq, maybe
>weird, mint doesn't come with that? KDE does.
>pinta

>>107181272
With pkexec.

>>107180554
>have a 1080p@60hz drawing tablet I use to make HDR art with
>have a 1440p@180hz monitor I use to view said art on, and play games.
I'll contend with gayland for the time being. I do look forward to a display server that doesn't have Sebastian Wick ruining it, though.
>>107180585
In the most technical sense of the word, this is correct. It's designed to encode values that deliberately go beyond "paper white" so that things like lights and the sun actually look bright.

>>107181311
Thank you sir!

I might just end up coding up my own screen-recorder app :)

>>107181284
xfce4-screenshooter

>>107181498
i meant if mint doesn't have this you can always pull spectacle or something

>>107180490
You might be right about that but i'm not sure that in this instance it is x11 at fault. It should work. I got it partially working but i ended up fucking around with the kernel and drives and i had to use a backup restore because I couldn't boot up again. i've tried everything man. Fuck

if you really think xwayland will work, i'll do it. I've got nvidia drivers also

did anybody here have issues booting a computer with only a AMD APU, no dedicated GPU and no monitor connected? I had the boot lock up sometimes but simply rebooting with a monitor connected would fix it for a bit.

Any ideas on why this might be?

>>107181752
For comparison, this is my brave://gpu on Fedora 42 with novidya GTX 1080

>>107181804
I might actually be on to something. It's the flags. When I check brave://gpu with the default flags, it looks good. I started brave up with the flags on and it didn't work

How can I enable hibernation on trixie?
This I have done
>added this line to my /etc/default/grub
>resume=UUID=<the swap uuid>
>then ran update-grub
>looked for secure boot in BIOS but didn't find
>hibernate appears at logout menu but it's grayed out (inactive)
Worked fine when I was using bookworm.
Thoughts?

>>107181889
I'll add I left all my flags on default after installing Brave from the repo

>>107181935
But unlike mine, yours actually does it. It's probably something really simple. a setting or something or idk

>>107181910
btw, sysvinit MX 25 instead of systemd

>>107181910
>>107181962
Nevermind just got it right! After those steps I did
>sudo update-initramfs -uk all
And it now works. Merry linuxing, /faglets/.

So in Windows if you delete two files of the same name it's not possible or much harder to restore them. How is it in Linux? Just curious.

>>107182322
Never heard of that actually. On Linux the files don't contain their name, it's a separate thing stored in directories

I'm loosing my mind. Please someone give me a direction on where I should seek answers.
>Problem
I can't install any distribution on my SSD because the SSD can't be detected. I tested some distributions in their older versions and the SSD was detected just fine. After doing some testing and research I noticed that every distribution that includes Kernel version 6.9 and beyond, can't detect my SSD.
I stumbled upon this post: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=296463 and this guy seems to have the same problem as me because and I have the same SSD.
I tried he's solution (set the power management policy to max_performance) in the live distribution I'm trying to install but it still cannot be detected. Is there a kernel forum or chat where I can have a productive discussion for my problem? I don't expect anyone here to help me here because I have never taken any answers when I asked for help.

>>107181284
Tried to find a sane replacement for mspaint but seems like there isn't one.
There's all sorts of image editors but they are either too heavy for simple tasks or just plain retarded. All of them.
Ended up using 'swappy' but that's for annotating screenshots though.

I've been having a weird issue the past week. I run Kubuntu Mininal and it's been great for the month that I used it. However after my first major update and downloading a KDE theme I've started to have apps randomly lock up that needs to be xkilled. How do I figure out what the culprit is? My specs are
AMD Radeon 9060 XT
AMD Ryzen 5600
32 GB of RAM

>>107182555
>Using X11
Try the Plasma Wayland session.

>>107182682
I am using Wayland it's Wayland by default.

>>107180847
Doas will always be inferior for me for the simple reason that there is no equivalent of sudoedit. The only way to edit a file with root permissions with doas is the open the editor as root, which comes with its own security issues.

>>107182692
Then xkill isn't going to do anything 90% of the time unless you're using Wayland as a giant shell for X11 apps in which case the problem is probably the app that's causing your system to freeze.

>>107182717
I constantly forget sudoedit even exists because I have the alias sano to run sudo nano

>>107182827
The nice thing about sudoedit is that it loads your editors .rc files.

>>107182866
I don't like that you can't edit the file in place

>>107182892
That's deliberate because it would be a security issue.

>>107182939
I know but for some things it's very annoying

>>107182949
The only annoying thing I found is syntax highlighting can break since you're editing a temporary file but you can fix that with a modeline at the top of the file.

https://github.com/yt-dlp/ejs
https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/any/yt-dlp/
yt-dlp now needs ejs to work properly, is it bundled in the arch package or do I have to install and keep it updated separately? There are some ejs files in package file list but I don't know if that's the library or just glue code for it

>>107183012
python3 -c "import yt_dlp_ejs"

>>107183012
Shouldn't it be all good because deno is included as a dependency now? On Windows at least all you need is deno.exe next to yt-dlp.exe and ffmpeg.exe for it to extract Youtube videos properly.

>>107183010
I just use https://github.com/ferki/vim-eunuch/tree/sudoedit_filetype_detection. It's a fork of the original eunuch.vim plugin with filetype detection funcionality added back in.

>>107183063
>>107183012
https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/wiki/EJS#step-2-install-ejs-challenge-solver-scripts
Found it, official downloads have it bundled but linux repo packages most likely won't so I guess I'll enable the github download option

installing debian rn, should i go for btrfs? i never had a problem with ext4 but diving in its capabilities it seems better for datq recovery abd error detections.

>>107183282
yea give it a shot. personally i'd never use anything less anymore

>>107183282
XFS or ext4. No btfs, too unstable.

>>107183302
its considered stable (on the kernel level) since 2013 anon (wiki says). and it seems better to detect data errors

How do I add new themes to KDE/rice it in general? The built in theme downloader doesn't have a lot. I'm running it on top of cachyos if that matters

>>107183380
been using it since 2014, and while i wouldn't have recommended it then, it's been solid for a long time. anyone calling it unstable today are either looking at the raid5/6 support and applying that to the rest of the filesystem, or they're just going off decade-old news

>>107183456
For a better integration on kde, the best option you have is that build in downloader, but you could try creating a .themes folder in your home, move the theme there and see if you can apply on customisation.
i know that icons still work this way.

My gpu is too new for Mint. What's another distro that just werx and you can set it and forget it?

>>107183456
go to the actual site (store.kde.org) if you wanna see more themes, i noticed the built-in downloader only lists one page out of many

>>107183609
Fedora, only gotcha it that you have to install full ffmpeg since by default it doesn't ship proprietary codecs

>>107183282
go for it, its nice having the option to rollback with snapper if you or an update fucks something up

kernel 6.6+ has corked power management for mobile amd apus and mobile amd discrete graphics.
An rx 6600 performs like ass because it defaults to vbios power settings...
I went back to windows 11 because linux was eating my asshole out with its tongue. Integrated graphics on linux performs like ass.

I really like it, but i want something both fast and supported. Why do people keep shilling bazzite for gaming? It was complete ass for me... I had to roll back to a fedora 42 base because bazzite ships broken updates.

I only like gentoo and debian. Everything else is just buggy retoid fardshid. Debian doesnt eat my ass hole out. I recommend debian.

I am going to maybe dabble with postmarket os with bedrock linux ontop.

>>107181284
>install maim, slop and snappy
>then use this with a keyboard shortcut (print screen)
sh -c 'maim -g "$(slop)" | swappy -f -'

>>107181284
I use textadept as a cross platform editor. Admittely i riced the heck out of it so it's more like an ide now.
https://orbitalquark.github.io/textadept/

>>107180554
this is the most /g/ thing ive ever read and the most retarded. What the fuck

Why does kde plasma integration for Firefox need "Access browsing history" now?

Jesus fucking christ the new group thing in firefox is so annoying, dont know how many times ive accidentally group two tabs

>>107184315
Start menu / krunner. It's totally superfluous if you have Firefox on your phone. Idk why anyone bothers with DE extensions.

This packaged showed up on my pacman -Syu. Why do I need it? Does it make trashscript faster? Now is a good time to shat in Brendan Eich entire family.
https://deno.com/
https://github.com/denoland/deno
https://dev.to/nabbisen/deno-installation-on-arch-linux-4c45

>>107181284
>i cannot find a good notepad replacement in linux
is this nigger fr?

>>107184669
yt-dlp now requires it for youtube

>>107184669
It's a new yt-dlp dependency

>>107184698
>>107184704
why? does it make trashscript faster? did i already said i need to shat on brendan eich entire genealogy?

Why is the cursor a transparent box on Gnome? Am I carrying some old junk with my home directory that's causing this? Didn't try on a fresh user yet.

>>107184669
It is because JewTube keeps changing their script faster than yt-dlp devs can update their stupidly complex ReGex so now they have an alternative JavaScript solver that's only used for YouTube (it's completely optional if you only download from other sites although they may slowly migrate other sites over to it too).

TLDR; It's more maintainable for the devs that used to have to drop absolutely everything they were doing to updating that ReGex whenever they'd change something for no reason.

>>107185279
Also the reason they use Deno by default (other runtimes do work too like Nodejs) is because it's completely sandboxed so has no filesystem or network access. In theory this means that in the unlikely event JewTube tried to access your system while yt-dlp is evaluating code it wouldn't work.

>>107185279
It's 110MB... Why? This trash is an Electron app? I checked the github and it has soooo many problems I doubt it will work. I be this trash will make yt-dlp unstable with all the problems I see on their Github.

>>107185348
It's not ReGex so can interpret the script on the YouTube page like your browser did. Basically that's the only reason they're doing it. It brings yt-dlp slowly into the realm of actually being able to solve JavaScript based challenges properly without ugly hacks.

>>107185372
Also they do note that they could just use an actual headless browser for this but that would be even heavier again and an admission of defeat. This JavaScript runtime support is a middle ground that keeps things working whilst being more maintainable for the people maintaining the back ends.

>>107185372
>TLDR; It's more maintainable for the devs that used to have to drop absolutely everything they were doing to updating that ReGex whenever they'd change something for no reason.
Seems to me they are just getting lazy and are looking to do less work.

>>107185414
They're looking to do more maintainable work that scales. ReGex is a pattern matcher that can't actually understand the context of the code on the page so they essentially have to cancel everything they were doing for the day to reverse engineer the solver and then update things. Now they can just run the actual JavaScript solver like your browser would and be done with it.

>>107185279
>>107185372
>ReGex
Stop that. They're (R)egular (E)xpressions, on no planet does it make sense to shorten it to "ReGex".

>>107176963
thanks chatgpt.
the creating list part worked.
now I have to see if the installing on the new machine works

>>107185666
Sup Satan.

>>107185666
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeMHNDkkfdI

>>107182548
what about kolourpaint?

Finally downloaded the bazzite ISO file after having had the tab open for like 2 months and I'm going to install baby's first Linux distro when I get home from work today.

>>107185936
That's probably the closest.
Might still be easier to launch mspaint.exe via a wine script if you don't want or can't deal with kde dependencies.

>>107186097
The dependencies for a small KDE app like Kolourpaint aren't even that bad:
kde-apps/kolourpaint-9999:
[ 0] kde-apps/kolourpaint-9999
[ 1] dev-qt/qtbase-6.10.0-r1
[ 1] kde-frameworks/kconfig-9999
[ 1] kde-frameworks/kconfigwidgets-9999
[ 1] kde-frameworks/kcoreaddons-9999
[ 1] kde-frameworks/kcrash-9999
[ 1] kde-frameworks/kguiaddons-9999
[ 1] kde-frameworks/ki18n-9999
[ 1] kde-frameworks/kio-9999
[ 1] kde-frameworks/kjobwidgets-9999
[ 1] kde-frameworks/kservice-9999
[ 1] kde-frameworks/kwidgetsaddons-9999
[ 1] kde-frameworks/kxmlgui-9999
[ 1] kde-apps/libksane-9999
[ 1] kde-frameworks/breeze-icons-9999
[ 1] kde-frameworks/oxygen-icons-9999
[ 1] kde-frameworks/kf-env-6
[ 1] app-alternatives/ninja-1
[ 1] dev-build/cmake-4.1.2-r1
[ 1] kde-frameworks/kdoctools-9999
[ 1] dev-libs/libpcre2-10.47
[ 1] kde-frameworks/extra-cmake-modules-9999
[ 1] dev-vcs/git-2.51.2-r1
[ 1] dev-util/desktop-file-utils-0.28
[ 1] x11-misc/shared-mime-info-2.4-r3

>>107186493
He's using Linux Mint so he has to deal with the avalanche of dependency hell.

>>107183282
>>107183302
>>107183380
I use ext4, never tried btrfs but I heard it can have issues. I haven't had problems with ext4 so I don't really have a reason to try btrfs

>>107186575
ext4 ignores and papers over hardware fuckups, where btrfs locks itself read-only and refuses to kludge the fs back into valid format. Of course people have more 'issues' with btrfs.

>>107187042
They would have those issues with ext4 too they just don't know about it because nothing is telling them. BTRFS even goes so far as to lock-itself read-only when the hardware is perfectly fine but you ran out of disk space. This is good because it prevents accidentally trashing the filesystem. You can still always re-mount it read-write again but it forces you to address the problem instead of ignoring the fact.

Linux is a kernel.

I call all computers "a linux". Right now I'm using my Linux and I'm running Windows 11. In my Linux. Because that's what I call all computers.
This is the best Linux I've bought.

>>107183501
I had it eat an entire SSD in 2023 when it decided to corrupt all of its superblocks, I imaged that drive just in case btrfs recovery tools are ever recovered and I'm still waiting.
The SSD still works perfectly with ext4 btw.

>>107183501
>they're just going off decade-old news
literally could apply that to three-quarters of the linux related shitposts

I pulled the trigger for a FW12 for replacing my iPad, what OS/Distro should I install on it? I tried, Fedora 43 with KDE and Gnome and Ubuntu 25.10 and both worked flawlessly out of the box, trying Windows was more work (ironic).

But now I can't decide what to use on the daily. Any recommendations? As it is a 2in1 should I use the foot DE?

>>107183738
just use arch and the latest kernel, retard
amdgpu is fine for me

>palemoon
>url bar hidden
>C-l popup only lets you type new url
>want quickest way to copy url without having to unhide url bar
what do, linuxfrens?

>>107188177
Just figured out some makeshift shit:
>C-i
>tab, tab
>C-c
It's fine for now, I guess, but I'd like something quicker (no addons)

>>107179554
Long day...
No errors on memtest. I don't know why it panicked.

>>107188177
Is male poon still alive?

>>107175720 (OP)
I'm looking for a new distro so I can use XMPP unless they update the python3-protobuf
>friendly linux
>https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/oudated-version-of-gajim/148811/4
any distro recommendations?
I've had very few issues with fedora and it has been my os of choice for years after abandoning ubuntu and arch.

https://0pointer.net/blog/brave-new-trusted-boot-world.html
https://media.ccc.de/v/all-systems-go-2025-362-uki-composefs-and-remote-attestation-for-bootable-containers
Do you guys welcome this inevitable future to Linux? It is conflicting for me.

I've just used gnome again after several years and I once again have to ask: how in the hell did we ever let this insane and nonsensical project become the face of desktop linux UI?

>>107183282 (me)
i went with ext4. since its debian, ive only used it until now (with no problems), my ssd is new and reliable and ill probably not make use of all btrfs capabilities. thanks for the input everybody, i plan to buy more ssds and definitely will consider btrfs in the future.

>>107188798
>I've just used gnome again
Why? if you post here then you already failed their self-proclaimed litmus test.
Plus if you want a full desktop environment suite KDE (QT) is far superior and can easily GUI-integrate self made scripts

>>107188670
These are more interesting for the devices & services companies than desktop users. Composable single user desktop is of course 100% masturbation, and TPMs aren't secure on an organized crime level. Measured boot is only interesting if you want to protect your hardware from your own customers.

should I sell my ass for a 9070 XT? my 4070 is crusty and boring and is 9% slower in cyberpunk on Linucks, i only get 180 fps with frame gen (monitor is 260hz) and I can't think of any other way to make $700 without getting a j*b

>>107188798
I don't get how people can use this DE, I fired up a Fedora VM the other day and it feels like the UI was designed for a touchscreen

>>107186541
>sudo dnf install kolourpaint
>installing 112 packages
It's even worse on Fedora.

>>107189867
Oops, forgot - Xfce4 Fedora, that's not le official wankery installation.

I'm about to put Arch on my new SSD but I'm too scared to commit to it because I'm afraid there's going to be one program I can't run that's going to be a deal breaker. I needed to sign some documents from work and I saw that Adobe Acrobat isn't on Linux, but I also saw there's a web app so maybe that's alright. I probably shouldn't be so concerned since I already lean towards using FOSS when I can. Is there a piece of software that requires any of you to dual boot Windows? Because I don't want to have to dual boot if I'm committing to Linux.

sudo touch little\ boys

>>107190109
Forgot to mention hardware incompatibility as well. I tried putting Arch on my Surface Pro but it's too much of a locked down piece of garbage that too many of the hardware components flat out just don't work. My Wacom tablet and the wireless Logitech keyboard and mouse I have looks compatible though.

>>107190116
JEREMY NO

>>107175795

they have had default document in windows maybe since win3.11?

>>107190116
Calm down rabbi.

>>107176737

to me linux always dark theme

Niggas, working on my wine-ge prefix setup script and while it seems to install all the needed dependencies the game itself complains that the dependency isn't installed.
For example one of the dependencies is 'dotnetdesktop9'.
Dependencies get installed with 'winetricks -q' command.
Please halp.

>>107177167

you should not do agile on stocks is spoken word in business hours or skynet

>>107179953

if its skip amdgpu fallback to vesa passthough how in hell you would get hardware support

>>107179774

run on visual does not care timedate jack shit

is like five franks and get it done

>>107180295

replace notification aplay sound with windows waveform audio file maybe

New machine coming soon, should I install artix or arch as usual?

>>107190529
Artix is Arch but more of a pain to use. Just use Arch if you don't give a shit about init wars.

>>107180592

vim then tex to pdf converter

>>107180952

yes maybe its in desktop behavioral settings

>>107190486
what?

>>107190535
i don't understand systemd hate. unit files are dogshit simple and one of the greatest features of linux.

>>107190600
It's like a philosophical hate I guess. It was much more raw back when more and more distros were switching over to it full time like it was a virus or something. These days no one really gives a shit.

>>107188798

they had graphical ui in jurassic park movie maybe unix maybe tron not many know for sure

>>107188085
Well, it depends on what you are looking for. I'm biased against Gnome, but if you like it then go for it, KDE on the other hand offers you many more things and works quite better, but it may feel overwhelming for some people.
>>107190535
>but more of a pain to use
It works exactly the same. Unless you need to use a program that absolutely requieres systemd, there shouldn't be any problems. You might need to install a separate package for some programs (e.g. cronie, cronie-dinit), but installing and activating it is an easy process.

>>107190529

32-bit mxlinux pae worth a try

>>107190401
IIRC in winecfg you have to set which libraries should be loaded. haven't used wine in a long time though

>>107190728
I don't use winecfg, just scripts (one for setting up the fake windows, other one for launching the game). It appears that I needed to install wine-mono and that's a system wide install, not something what winetricks installs separately.
>sudo dnf install wine-mono
This wasn't clear because when using Bottles it seemed to have its own wine-mono as separate installation...
I'm replicating my Escape from Tarkov installation from Bottles and it needed these:
>"vcrun2022" "d3dx9" "msls31" "allfonts" "d3dcompiler_43" "d3dcompiler_47" "dotnet40" "dotnet48" "dotnetdesktop6" "dotnetdesktop8" "dotnetdesktop9"
Plus need to change few DLLs with environment variables and set DOTNET paths too (these actually need to be empty or otherwise it'll complain)
>export DOTNET_BUNDLE_EXTRACT_BASE_DIR=
>export DOTNET_ROOT=
>export WINEDLLOVERRIDES="winhttp=n,b;mscoree=n,b;icu=d"
Got it running. This is probably one of more complicated setups. Most games don't really need this much.
I just want to get rid of Bottles or any launchers whatsoever. Hate Bottles.

>>107188670
>>107189738
This is only useful if you're a distribution. As an end-user of a single-user desktop who compiles their own desktop then you can compile your own kernel, embed any custom initrd you need inside of it and secure boot sign the whole thing with manual keys enrolled for the machine and of course the Windows keys, etc, removed.

For distributions it's not practical to do that.

Is rclone 100% safe? Need gdrive with my keepass database to sync with keepassxc.

>>107190994
I don't know. It might be a virus. Why don't you read all of the code to make sure:
https://github.com/rclone/rclone

sudo touch little\ boys\ on\ their\ bhole

>>107190999
>Go 98.1%
malware. only jeets writing malware use go.

>>107185936
My main issue with kolourpaint is non scalable paintbrushes. You've only got like 3 sizes per brush

>>107191035
Tracing IP...
WE GOT 'IM! Send the black helicopters!
FBI OPEN UP!
Sir, you are invited to meet the President of the United State of America! As a former Iraq veteran I salute you!

>>107190529
Artix is like the retarded little brother of Arch. It's worse but at least it doesn't have shitstemd.

Here's how to connect to wifi on Arch linux livedisk for installing
$ iwctl
>
$ station wlan0 connect <SSID>
enter passphrase: **********
$ exit


Here's how to connect to wifi on Artix linux livedisk for installing
$ iwctl
iwctl: command not found
$ iwd
iwd: command not found
$ iw
iw: command not found
$ nmcli
nmcli: command not found
$ nmtui
nmtui: command not found
*opens installation wiki*
"you can use iw bro, or read this 1000 line wiki page full of 99% useless information bro"
"just turn on your wifi device bro, use this command"
$ ip link set interface up
can't do that, bro because of rfkill
"just use the wiki about wpa_supplicant bro"
"just read another 1000 line wiki page about other shit bro"

Artix is not a good experience. It's easier to just install Arch and migrate it to Artix if you really wanted to.

>Install Devuan
>It just werks
Thank u Devuan

>>107175720 (OP)
I'm on Gnome 49 and when I'm gaming if I don't touch the computer for 5 minutes the screen goes dark and locks itself. Is this the default behavior or did I fuck something up?

This didn't happen before even though I had the same settings.

>>107192848
Open settings and search for dim / lock / sleep and also check the power options

>>107192880
Is it supposed to lock even when a fullscreen application is running though?

>>107193023
Yes, your settings dictate what happens to your computer, not games.

>>107193054
Nigguh whaaaa?

Troons are forcing their premature, vulnerability ridden, diseased code onto normal people and threatening to murder the Fuhrer Loondook
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3SUTiAp9aw

Can you please stop the goddamn spam already? Nobody fucking cares about your e-celeb.

When I think of the fact that the name for Debian came from a portmanteau of Ian Murdock’s name and the name of his wife Debra, my thoughts turned to Ian Curtis and his wife Deborah. Any other distros with cute name origins?

>>107193453
Torvalds wanted name Linux as Freax originally but the guy who hosted the files named it as Linux.

>>107193453
Also interesting that Ian Murdock hung himself as well…

>>107193467
Freaky Linus :p

>>107193483
Quite ironic when you think about the state of its development today... Freax would be more suitable name for the kernel now.

>>107193474
Nah the glowies got him

>>107192420
Plug in the Ethernet cable white man.

>>107193351
I FOUND A RUST PROGRAMMER

>>107193474
nothing to see here

>>107190404
what language are you trying to speak?

>>107193453
>Debian came from a portmanteau of Ian Murdock’s name and the name of his wife Debra
pretty cool innit? men are so much more in love than women.

>>107193803
Lunduke is a gay trust fund kid and his viewers are non-programming pol brainrot spastics. I subscribed to that idiot for like 6 months b/c he looks like he does real journalism, and he does, but it's all on the most retarded bear bull political drama you can imagine. If Lunduke is talking about it, there's a 100% chance it doesn't fucking matter.

Look he's using Linux and it doesn't seem impossibly hard at all! Wow!

>>107193453
Apartheid linux has a cute name because it comes from total n****r death.

>>107194208
>>107194208
>>107194208

>>107175720 (OP)
Dwm < i3 though isn’t it

>>107194249
coke vs pepsi

>>107194240
Page 7 dude.

apparently linux has brightness slider for all of my external monitors while windows don't, how long have you retards kept this technology hidden from us?

>>107195059
KDE is pretty great, isn't it?

Some KDE issues, I'm using Kubuntu btw
>the "spawn windows centered on screen" option from KDE doesn't seem to work under Xorg, only for Wayland,
>brightness slider doesn't work under Xorg either
>items in clipboard stay there forever, no option for automatic removal
The last one bothers me because passwords managers that clean the clipboard after a certain amount of time don't work because of it. Not only that but it seems even after manual cleanup entries are stored at ~/.local/share/klipper, why?

>>107195059
Monitors have had that ability for decades... blame the microjeets for not leveraging it.

>>107195264
My first experience when I switched over from W11 to Loonix after XX years was
>Arch, think that I want KDE
>I have trouble middle click pasting from gui text editor to vim
>have trouble copy pasting text from browser to text editor
>nested settings page
Okay, I went on forward.
Ended up with Xfce4 and Fedora 43. Don't have any problem with pasting whatsoever, jesus christ.

>>107195378
Yes I know about .vimrc and .screenrc but the initial KDE experience was so bad that I won't go back.
Maybe it was because Arch is minimal and I ddin't configure something but I don't think so, it's just Unix system. Middle click paste, normal business.

>>107190116
>sudo
Haha I get it

>>107195391
What so bad about KDE?
Your clipboard issue is just Vim being crap and not supporting the Wayland clipboard. Neovim has had that for ages:
https://github.com/neovim/neovim/commit/05f9c7c2f7f52a5b4b1a72a49dab99dc21195c7d

As someone who primarily plays vidya on their computer and as a result uses xwayland a lot, would I even benefit from installing xwayland-satellite? From my understanding, all it does is put xwayland windows into their own individual x11 session instead of using one universal x11 session

Now that Valve announced the steam machine, what's the deal with immutable distros like SteamOS? They claim you can use it as a desktop, but can you really?

Is it like NixOS in a way?

>>107196215
wine 10.x uses wayland by default

>>107196603
steam does not care yet

>>107196633
Steam uses Proton which is a fork of Wine with additions. They likely haven't made it the default there yet.