Thread 107203770

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut

>RAM
*Prices and therefore recommendations are for the time being in flux
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb (~$270)
-Used: 2060 Super, 2070, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

>>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch? 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
Redstone "Ray Regeneration" is in Black Ops 7
New Steam hardware

>>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>>Omissions
-9800X3D: ~10% improvement in gaming over a 7800X3D (which is still in production)
-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, consider cheaper second hand options like the 3080
-9070: Currently more expensive than the 5070
-Q27G40XMN: Early shipments had firmware that effected local dimming with no way to update, otherwise considered a great monitor for the price.
-"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performance

Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

Pic:
>>107203141 anon and a chink 9800x3d
>>107203714
Previous:
>>107198225

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch? 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
Redstone "Ray Regeneration" is in Black Ops 7
New Steam hardware

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Omissions
-9800X3D: ~10% improvement in gaming over a 7800X3D (which is still in production)
-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, consider cheaper second hand options like the 3080
-9070: Currently more expensive than the 5070
-Q27G40XMN: Early shipments had firmware that effected local dimming with no way to update, otherwise considered a great monitor for the price.
-"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performance

Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

Pic:
>>107203141 anon and his chink 9800x3d
>>107203714
Previous:
>>107198225

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch? 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
Redstone "Ray Regeneration" is in Black Ops 7
New Steam hardware

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Omissions
-9800X3D: ~10% improvement in gaming over a 7800X3D (which is still in production)
-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, consider cheaper second hand options like the 3080
-9070: Currently more expensive than the 5070
-Q27G40XMN: Early shipments had firmware that effected local dimming with no way to update, otherwise considered a great monitor for the price.
-"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performance

Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

Pic:

>>107203141 anon and his chink 9800x3d
>>>>107201105 the jeetstation
Previous:
>>107198225

>>107203807
why this dude using two mouse mats

https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1ovw0qf/amd_drivers_performing_hundreds_of_ssd_writes/

AYYMDEAD KILLING YOUR SSDS BY SHORTENING YOUR SSDS LIFESPAN

>>107203824
Because it's AI generated.

>>107203824
>>107203851
>why this dude using two mouse mats
Imagine if mouse sensors worked better the more layers of padding there were stacked underneath them. You'd have progamers/streamers running setups that resemble the Princess and the Pea.

>>107203827
You fuckers are so fucking retarded. I know Reddit is fucking retarded, but I would have thought you guys would be smarter.
A million small writes is not going to kill your fucking SSD. Those log files are less than 10kb. AMD is not the only one doing this by the way. A mid range SSD usually has 200TBW before it's considered 'bad'. That means SMART is going to give a WARNING that your SSD endurance are getting low, that's not the total amount, it can reach 500TBW if you push it.
10kb is 0.00000010TB. You have 200 TBW. It means it needs to write 2 BILLION times before you get a warning.

So no, your log files aren't killing your SSDs. It would take 10+ years before you see any wear on an SSD just for the log files.

>>107203824
Double precision

>>107203827
>he doesn't use an optane SSD as a boot drive
user error

>>107203894
This thing just came out and it has 4,800 TBW.
SSD longevity is not a fucking issue at all nowadays.

>>107203947
That SSD also costs more than a 5080

Does the manufacturer of the gpu matter?
Like asus, pny, gigabyte, zotac etc ...

>>107204001
For the base GPU card itself, no.
If you want extra features, then yes.

>>107204006
>extra features
such as?

AMD piggies are still oinking for FSR4 on RDNA3

>>107204026
Bigger heat sinks so better cooling.
Better OC, like bigger power limit.
Bigger VRMs.
RGB.

If you don't care about any of these just get a founders edition card, if you can find one.

>>107204048
its already on linux
like this stuff is baked into valves official proton shit by now
every linux owner has fsr4 by using one command

>>107204063
The gabecube is gonna be a beast with fsr4

>>107204070
deadlock is gonna have fsr4 (linux) and dlss4 (windows)

RAM....

Once you try oled, it's over
you are forever cursed to be a slave to it
you might try and cope and go back to lcd and inferior displays, but in the back of your mind you will always know it's pure shit
lcds are too slow, tvs too large
I kneel, I admit defeat
I will go back to a 27"-32" 240hz-540hz QD/Tandem 4k/1440p OLED, there is simply nothing else
I was already at endgame, I might aswell just admit defeat and join the Republic right now
only now there is the question if 500+hz is actually more preferrable to 4k, or if 1440p really looks that bad and the hz does not outweigh it
I undervalued hz and 0 smearing, it's important
it might be over
I should have bought the g81sf 27" or two of them when it was on sale for 499€, will literally never see such a deal again, could have even peeled the matte coating

>>107204181
OLED freed me from CCFL slavery, I can finally buy new monitors after using same old shit for over a decade because literally every LED LCD was worse for my use case.
>tvs too large
It's the opposite, 42" TV freed so much space after using dual 24" I don't even need desk as big as before.

>>107204208
I was considering taking the C4 42" pill, but had to test if 55" is viable first
I know now that it's just too big for no reason, not sure if 42" will be better since it's woled+144hz max anyway
might aswell go back to a 27-32" at this point

>>107204208
I even think dual monitors would be more preferable, I think single screen window management is literally gay, so a larger screen would not really add anything either
I think monitors won
I don't even know if I think gaming on a larger screen is better
truly over
this might be the end of shilling the tv pill

I'm completely new to PC building, and I got all of the parts from a random pcpartpicker list I snagged from an anon's post almost a year ago while lurking /v/ (I wanted to try to build a powerful gaming PC that costs less than the shitty $2,000 MSI MPG Trident 3 10th prebuilt PC I bought in 2020, and the anon's list was perfect):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QgJGb2

I managed to assemble the PC a few months back and I tried Windows 11 on it (I despised it so much), so I put Linux Mint 22.1 on it instead. However, since this was my first time building a PC, I didn't know what I was supposed to do about the BIOS updates and settings, and there was way too much conflicting info everywhere on the internet. Most people were saying to updoot to the latest BIOS version, so I downloaded the latest stable BIOS file for my MB from the official MSI website, but that's where all of my problems began. After updooting, I noticed that if I disable secure boot and/or delete the secure boot keys, the text would start changing to chinese letters and the BIOS eventually freezes and locks up, and I would have to force a shutdown. I ended up making this meme because of it (I used shotcut):
https://files.catbox.moe/tgczp0.mp4

I've read so many bad things about the B650 Gaming Plus WiFi MB, and I'm considering switching to a different AM5 MB (looking for something that has good stability, good Linux compatibility, compatible with current parts, and no built-in WiFi because I'm sensitive to EMF). I'm also probably going to switch to another distro because the latest versions of Linux Mint is shit (21.3 was the last good version), and I'll give Arch Linux another shot before trying Cachy OS, but if Arch Linux still hasn't fixed the PAM bug (instant password lockout when using sudo or syu commands even when the password is typed correctly), then I'll have to go on a hunt for another distro. Picrel is the PC I built (first time I've ever built a PC).

I was thinking about just going to Microcenter tomorrow and buying (almost) everything I need for my PC.
Or should I waitfag for black friday deals? Will there be significant discounts?

>>107203970
Pretty sure I ordered the 9800X3D from that listing.
It's the image in the OP.
All the serials check out, it came in a tray and seems genuine. Won't know until I get the MOBO and PSU later in the month. But, it's not a brick at least.

>>107204063
with inferior performance and image quality to RDNA4

>>107204181
I'm not going OLED until Samsung releases an OLED version of their 57" g9.

seems like 5070ti can be gotten used in germany for under 500eur does anything come close in value

>>107204447
cheapest 5070TI in germany seems to be 750€ so for that price would be a steal, the question is "how used?, what model? how comfortable are you buying 2nd hand tech?" etc

>>107204494
there are plenty of listings daily of all kinds of models some as low as 400 but they get sold in like minutes

>>107204500
i wasn't judging im on a bunch of 2nd hand hardware i would walk on cinders to have a chance to buy a 5070TI for 500€ or fucking hell 400$ as you posted, too bad im far away.
BUT those are 750+ cards, that kind of drop in value doesnt scream super safe buy to me.
Just do you due diligence anon, good luck

>>107204384
It's not that bad. It's better than native still in both quality and fps.

>>107204181
I'm still alright with glossy LCDs with good contrast ratio. The biggest advantage of oled displays is its many glossy options available on the market unlike LCDs

is it fine? i cant find any cheaper ram than this that is 64gb, other ram are super expensive.. above 100$+ from this one (360$)

>Today my pc humbled me, please listen my cautionary tale of how my hubris brought me low.
>I always thought i was at least decently pc savvy, i have offered help in these threads of stuff i knew about and learned from others...
>I had problems with my gpu, constant crashes and problems, none of the advice on the internet help.
>But anon do these crashes happen even when you have the gpu at factory settings!?
>Yes they do, i tried the same apps and programs after having closed Afterburner
>And there it was, i didnt know that i needed to reset the settings first then close afterburner, on my hubris on my stupidity, my vanity, my ego, my pomposity and complacency, i wrongly assumed that once shutting afterburner down since it dissapeared from my taskbar shortcuts any change would be undone.
>Alas.... that lasted for so long
>At least there is a happy ending, i learned something and now those crashes are gone with a more conservative OC of the card.
>Learn from my tale of woe and always keep an inquisitive mind for those demon machines we call computers hold many secrets still.

So yeah i wasted a fucking year roughly with an overbearing OC that was causing crashes on games cause im a fucking retard underserving of love.

Can you guys help a monkeybro? What PC from here should I buy if I want to run everything on 1080p 60fps for the next 5 years? https://www.lojanovaera.com/amd-ryzen-7000-series

>>107204576
Sure, get it
Though tRCD and tRP of 40 suggests that this is based on older Hynix 16gbit m-die which overclocks slightly differently from a-die

2nd hand 5070TI german anon
Something happened? you deleted the posts, im legit curious, did you find something wrong with the listings or what happened?

>>107204376
seriously thoughbeit

>>107204376
buy RAM/NVME now while you still can, everything else can wait for sales
>Will there be significant discounts?
3% on your case fan for sure

>>107204599
Jannies were jelly

>>107204591
You would have caught it almost instantly if you had used a monitoring program like hwinfo64 to show the GPU voltage, GPUs, temps and power...

>>107204605
GPUs too since they contain ram and prices are about to rise for those

>>107204618
absolutely, im a retard
you can't imagine the amount of shit i tried cause it OBVIOUSLY COULDNT BE THE OC CAUSE THE OC PROGRAM IS CLOSED
im not joking that it humbled me that something so simple caught me like that

>>107204630
think if it this way, you're still retarded but less retarded now

>>107204477
https://files.catbox.moe/eew135.mp4

>>107203947
should I get that or an sn850x? or samsung 990? I usually use samsung but idk

>>107204595
obviously none of the super cheap ones with 3050s and shit
none with a 5060 since the 2 i checked were 8gb versions, i wont even bother checking them anymore
So its either 5070 and 5070TI models, i dont think i saw any with 9070/9070xt which would have been worth a check

Picrel would be my pic, one with a 5070 the other with the TI, i skipped the ones with 64 ram cause its a waste in your case.

NOW for 1080@60hz you can do with less but getting a 5070/ti now gives you some room, you can get a 1440p screen later on your life and move to 1440p@120hz which those cpus will do for you.

If you are on a way tighter budget let us know, i just dont want to buy a fucking 5060 8gb card in 2026

>>107204677
Dios mios... el /g/oblino de /pcbg/...

>>107204628
It feels like GPUs will lag quite bit as the real hit on them should be in the first two quarters of 2026. Meanwhile RAM is already flying to the moon and each day adds like 20% on top, any scalper worth his scalp is buying, once these creatures will figure out that NVME will take the biggest hit next year they will start scalping it too killing the market for good.

>>107204677
Thats good anon, i apologize we had some problems with necroposting not that long ago and yours was a weird ass post
Again, i apologize.....
but that image could have been made by anyone....

Alas i dont fuck with the penguin so there is not much advice i can offer other than just clearing the CMOS so you get the mobo at factory settings if you believe that updating the bios is what started it all
Again i have no idea what the fuck im talking about

Straight up, I want to buy all the PC parts I want to upgrade my PC with now, I know I'm in a bit of a spotty financial situation, but I just don't see it getting any better with the current market.

>>107204723
ok

>>107204347
>the shitty $2,000 MSI MPG Trident 3 10th prebuilt PC
I get that consooming is fun and all, but couldn't you have just stripped her down and jabbed a throbbing single fan 4060ti in the slot and maybe unloaded some sextra RAM in those there open slots, that way the old bitch could have competed with your newer thiccer machine.

>>107204605
alright I'm too lazy to wait I'll just buy everything now

>>107204694
Nah, I can afford the right one. Thanks anon. I will wait tho to see if it's cheaper on BF but I can afford it now.

>>107204774
I assume the rest of the pieces are the exact same and just switching the gpu
check the price difference of a 5070 with the TI version in case either of them is overpriced/underpriced
The CPU they chose in literally all of them are not... "gaming" focused cpus not the ones you would usually see recommended in these threads, and i have to assume the rest of the builds are also made with profit in mind, in case you can at least think about maybe building your own, but i have no idea how available specific pieces would be in brazil.

Also keep in mind picrel
They dont list a cooler so i assume they use the stock cooler which might not be enough, also might want some extra fans, maybe you can talk to the shop when you order it, so they can add other pieces or whatever (again like a real cooler)

don't mind me, just testing to see if i'm banned

>>107204826
>are not... "gaming" focused cpus not the ones you would usually see recommended in these threads
nothing wrong with them either, just is weird to see that not a single unit is made with a more "gaming" chip

>A520
>inb4 nooo anon you can't put a high end gpu in such low end mobo!11

>>107203770 (OP)
My LF3 VRM fan started rattling horribly after a week of use.
One email to Arctic's support and they told me they're gonna send a replacement VRM fan to me immediately. That's surprising, I didn't think it was gonna be that quick and easy

>>107203807
>turn on TV
>immediate ad for some total crap
I don't know how tv plebs accept it

>>107203894
>just endlessly constantly write to your ssd for your monitor to work bro!

lol AMD garbage

So, when are we going to see an onslaught of super cheap surplus office boxes and laptops due to lack of Windows 11 support? I was told there would be a flood of cheap computers....

>>107204995
they were scrapped for rare earth metals and recycled.

>>107204347
MSI mobos only officially support Windows 11 They don't care if anything else doesn't work

>>107204723
do it now
shit is not getting cheaper and we are 1+ year away from ram dropping in price again

>>107204995
Because of ESG they don't dump those computers anymore instead they are shipped straight to africa to be harvested for elements

>>107205006
So the merchants win again. Sad.

If I buy the GPU I want I won't have enough money for the monitor I want

If I buy the monitor I want I won't have enough money for the GPU I want

>>107204957
Their support is great. They will even send you free thermal paste if you ask.

I thought this thread would be full of black friday deals by now but it's just doomerposting

>>107204747
Last year, my troon brother told me that I would need to do some soldering in order to upgrade the power so that it can handle the newer gpus, but he never told me exactly what I needed to solder. Unfortunately he began treating me like shit back in august, and then he permanently severed family ties between me and him/mom in september, so I can't get any more information from him. That's the only info I have in terms of upgrading the MPG trident PC.

>>107205069
Sorry, black Friday is cancelled. Please understand.

>>107204957
That's why Arctic AIO is recommended to people.
Competitive price + good customer service.
Mounting hardware isn't the best for single CCD Ryzen CPUs, but it's still running the 9800X3D under 80°C @ high loads.

>>107205012
I kinda figured as much, which is why I'm looking for advice on a new AM5 mobo that supports the current parts I have.

>>107205062
buy the GPU and just get the monitor at a later date

>>107205099
this GPUs are low right now. seconds before they rugpull black friday goys and double GPU prices because muh RAM

>>107205069
why do you think anything will have a deal anymore when the "sales" are 24/7 and rigged to rape you in the ass for the past decade and more? u have boomer brain.
imo best time to buy is june to now. thanksgiving to april is when they supply shortage and fuck everything up.

> G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory £229.99
> G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-8000 CL38 Memory £208.99

Make it Make sense...

Just bought a 4TB SSD for my new build but now I’m worried I won’t be able to catch a 5080 at MSRP in a couple weeks. That said I think storage is going to get more expensive for a while.

>>107205191
MHz are theoretical, latency is real.

12700k
3080ti
32 GB DDR5
Asus Prime Z690-P

Anything on the horizon in 2026 worth upgrading to? Was planning a case swap and some new fans/cooling around March 2026 and have budget to upgrade other parts

I just gotta wait 1 more week

I just gotta wait 1. more. week.

Help me decide
As far as I can see the specs are identical(?)

PNY GeForce RTX 5080 ARGB OC 16GB - ~USD$1240 black friday price
ASUS GeForce RTX 5080 ROG TUF Gaming 16GB OC - ~USD$1590
ASUS GeForce RTX 5080 PRIME 16GB OC - ~USD$1360
Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5080 WINDFORCE 3 OC 16GB - ~USD$1170 black friday price

The two on the bottom is not in stock until December, the other two I can get in 3-5 days
Is it even a good buy at this time?
I'm upgrading from a 3070 ti 8gb

AMD is dropping the ball on their desktop APUs. The best one only has 12CUs, but the APU they made for the PS5 has 36

>>107205275
I'd ride the year out if the GPU is still good enough for you.
RTX 50 Super cards are rumored to be delayed to the second half of 2026, and NVIDIA will probably raise the MSRP because of the memory shortage.

>>107205345
Worth swapping CPU? Ive heard nothing but negative things about intel and don’t know if it would lead to any substantial improvement in gaming to switch to a 9900 series

>>107205062
GPU's are about to explode in price because of the dram hikes monitor do not use ram so dont be retarded and get the gpu first

>>107205335
AMD's not dropping anything; they don't want to sell affordable & performant gaming APUs to penny-pinchers.
They sold over 80 million PS5 APUs, probably well over 100 million if you count Xbox APUs this generation.
They'll make better APUs when Intel/NVIDIA forces them, but these will be high-end SoCs.

>>107205317
I would get PNY, TUF is not worth paying the premium unless you literally live close to the sea or on a very humid place that can cause corrosion , just make sure you do proper stress testing when you recieve as they are an american company and the RMA will be good so even if they dont use the top component in premium cards you'll be able to spot anything faulty or not working properly and solve it quickly

>>107205396
>Worth swapping CPU? Ive heard nothing but negative things about intel and don’t know if it would lead to any substantial improvement in gaming to switch to a 9900 series
Unless you do a lot of highly multi-threaded workloads and and can get a deal on a 14700K/KF I don't think so.

is it bad to use 4 NVMEs on a ASUS ROG STRIX B850-A GAMING WIFI?
i heard it kills bandwidth something something.. or is it a non issue for me?

is switch 2 emulation possible yet

>ram is $500 now
say thank you

>>107205075
https://youtu.be/QXf0s5YqdJs
If you can build a pc from parts you can swap out a GPU. Also pics of your bro or GTFO.

>>107205396
13/14th gen CPUs are fine if you update the BIOS to the latest version.
But you're not getting much performance gain in terms of gaming.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/19.html

And you missed the best discount period ($150 14600K & $220 14700K).
Those prices won't be coming back since Intel announced they're raising prices for these LGA1700 CPUs (too popular).
https://www.trendforce.com/news/2025/10/17/news-intel-reportedly-raises-prices-up-to-20-for-intel-7-based-raptor-lake-alder-lake-asia-market-hit-hard/

>>107205454
PC gaming went from being expensive, to cheap, and the back to expensive all in 25 years

Should I go for a 9950x3d instead of 9800x3d, solely for lower temps/tdp?

>>107205499
Other way around, I mean.

9070 XT Nitro+ or 9070 XT Mercury oc without the magnetic fans gimmick bros? Nitro is at $699, Mercury costs $30 more

>>107205519
Check the HWUB 9070 XT comparison video. There are some good mid-tier models as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bvT5XvG65Y

>>107205499
Not a lot of reasons to get a 9950X3D right now.
I'm pretty sure they've announced, or it's been leaked or whatever that a version of the CPU with a full cache over all 16 cores is coming "soon", rather than the current set up where 8 of the cores have the X3D's cache and the other 8 are just ordinary cache.
So, if you want the 9950X3D, wait for that.

If you don't really care about the extra cores and "Workstation" stuff, just get the 9800X3D.
Every benchmark I've seen indicates that the 9950X3D is equal or worse to the 9800X3D in gaming and other "Consumer" tasks, and the price mark up just doesn't really justify it. Full cache over 16 cores might, but it's still all pretty overkill for most stuff.

what's going on why are GPUs priced so good (lol) now? They've been ridiculous all year

>>107205317
Why are you giving them extra money for free?

>>107205562
they're jewing you on ram now

Does anyone know where I can find more joke stickers like this for my case?
As funny as it is, I have an AMD CPU and also want one for my Nvidia GPU.
Also, fuck the RAM price increase. I hate being stuck with 32 GB.

>>107205562
Nvidia cards are expensive and don't have as much demand behind them as they used to. Also the relative uplift is quite small.
AMD cards are good, but still relatively small market share and don't quite reach the top-end.

A lot of people are waiting and seeing, other people aren't seeing any reason to upgrade over 40XX or 30XX cards. Demand is likely a little lower than expected. I think Nvidia is going to have a lot of competition soon, and maybe they're trying to brace for that.

>>107205561
Damn that fucking sucks. I do use my PC for CAD/3d modeling but I guess I'll just get a 9800x3d and wait for the last am5 chip to upgrade

>>107205610
It's a bit shit, but 9800X3D is pretty reasonably priced for what you get. But the 9950X3D doesn't make a whole lot of sense, no.

>>107205572
I live in the cheap country of Norway which is why this stuff is so expensive
also I think im going for the pny card

>>107205444
Picrel
Your mobo has 4 nvme slots
Main one np
M2.2 might share bandwidth with your gpu, it doesnt seem to be the case in this board, i think thats for x870 boards, but check your manual
M2.3 if that slot is in use the lower pcie expansion slot is disabled
M2.4 np

So it seems you are fine with 4 nvme if you dont need the lower expansion slot, still check your manual in case this recap image was wrong

>>107205123
best time to buy was a month ago, now is second best time to buy, third best time to buy will be when the AI pimple pops

>>107205582
ahoworks

5070 with 12Gb vram or 5060ti with 16Gb?
I am mostly playing older games modded to the brim so old gpu struggles.

>>107205776

>5060
>PCIE 5.0x8

Don't know why anyone wants it

>>107205723
That's where I bought it from. I'm looking for different ones styled like the Ryzen and RTX stickers.

>>107205817
my 6600xt with a PCIE 3.0X8 is fine

>>107203770 (OP)
how this for a build? It's the modest intel gaming build guide. Just looking for medium settings at 1440p

False

>Kingston Fury Beast RGB DDR5 6000MHz 64GB
Damn RAM have gotten expensive the last month
Almost double the price since October
~$250 vs ~$490

I've been looking at Valve's Steam Machine trying to guess how powerful its hardware would be. I'm mainly trying to figure out how much I'd be willing to pay for one compared to just building a PC. The following parts list is the best guess I could come up with for a comparable system, price and power wise.
Any changes you'd make or do you think I'm close?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fGvwRV

>>107203947
1400 Euro ...

>that buys a lot of bier und brot, Hans

>>107203947
I got the 1tb version, honestly can't tell a difference I fell for the marketing.

>>107205950
The steam machine is alot weaker then that. Its GPU is worse then the 7600, and CPU is lower clocked

>>107205546
I checked that one, and the techpowerup reviews, essentially the problem with the Nitro is the 12vhpwr (I have a 3.1 ATX psu though so it shouldn't be dangerous,) meanwhile the Mercury has louder fans, which is concerning as I am going to put my pc on my desk, so I don't know which one to go with.

>>107205776
5070 is faster so if you are not gonna use 16gb of vram then go for it, if you like 8k texture packs for shit like skyrim/cyberpunk you may have to get the 5060 ti though

Opinions on AliExpress tray CPUs?

This one ships from Spain, at least (so no taxes)

>>107205562
Nvidia cant sell HB200 to China so all the wafer for blackwell chips get trickled down to consumer GPU's, a 5090 die is a failed blackwell pro, and then this continue to trickle down in terms of sillicon, dont listen to the other amd tard though if you look at the steamchart hardware survey blackwell is basically the best generation in terms of sales as is nearing 10% of the total install base because of how cheap it is.

>>107206099
Arrived today.
Seems genuine. Not tested it yet, but the serial checks out and there's no signs of delidding.

>>107205776
With current pricing in the United States 5070>5060ti unless you know you need the extra vram for productivity or something

>>107206020
Valve is claiming 4k 60 FPS with FSR. An RX 7600 can't possibly do that even with frame gen. Whatever graphics unit it has must be closer to the 9060 XT than you think in order to hit that FPS.
I also wouldn't worry about the CPU for the Steam Machine. a 7600x pairs pretty well with a 7900 XTX, so I'd imagine whatever CPU the Steam Machine has should work great with the GPU.

>>107206134
>4k 60 FPS with FSR
yeah in hollow knight and balatro
i don't see them saying every game will do that

>>107206134
It has less CUs then a 7600 and less then a base PS5

>>107206099
I got one delivered and running fine now
no abnormal behavior

>>107206134
>Of the titles available to play at Steam Machines' debut event, we opted for a game we know extremely well: Cyberpunk 2077. We went through CP77's menus to set most options at relatively high values, with all ray tracing disabled, and reached an apparently steady 60fps performance level with FSR upscaling to 1440p resolution.

>With the same settings and resolution, we then turned on RT sun shadows and RT reflections and saw CP77's frame-rates dip into a jittery 30fps range. (Oddly, Valve didn't connect our Steam Machine to a VRR-enabled display, which would have smoothed off the experience to a certain extent. Steam Machine is VRR-compatible, we've been told.)

My psu died and now I'm looking for a replacement, I'm between a Corsair CX650/CX750, a Gigabyte P6500SS and a Redragon RGPS GC-PS002 600W
Which one should I pick? These are my specs:
- Motherboard: ASUS P8H61-M LX3 R2.0
- CPU: Intel Core i7-3700
- 16GB RAM dual-channel
- AMD Radeon RX570
- Two SSDs and a DVD recorder
- External voltage stabilizer
I don't really mind buying any of the three but I want one that won't blow up after a few months of usage

OLED or not on black friday?
I only just got myself a new 1440p monitor 4 months ago.

>>107206213
I had no idea Redragon had PSUs, and Gigabyte used to have pretty bad PSU issues. Go with the Corsair.

>>107206213
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4gbLjKzx8E

seems like a good one

>>107206025
nitro will have mild coil whine on more than half of games but not all. idk if it's similar with the XFX. great card. I think you will get similar sounds but the XFX is probably quieter.

I'm getting a powercolor reaper cause it's 2 slot, even though my case could fit bigger cards
bad idea or no?

>>107206276
Techpowerup noted that the mercury has loud fans, although it can most likely be resolved by reducing the fan curves in the software.

on the other hand, I've also read that the Nitro+ seems to suffer from some coil whine pretty commonly. As I said earlier I am going for a on-desk pc build so that also worries me. The XFX probably has similar rates of coil whine too, though.

Given that they are virtually the same price, its a tough decision

>>107206330
the 9070s seem like all the same card pretty much. you'll like either one you choose. the 700 price now is much fairer than what they had them at a few months ago.

>>107206246
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/the-best-black-friday-monitor-deals-2025-tracker
Check this tracker periodically, if you see a great deal I'd grab one for content consumption and keep your other LCD for desktop usage/web browsing in a dual setup. There's even a refurb model on Amazon right now for $400 (you can return it if it has a defect):
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0D4NCMV4F
Or $450 new:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D682HF6R
It's a night and day difference in contrast/colors/motion/uniformity.

is it worth swapping my 2070 super for a 2080ti if it would only cost me $30
playing games at 1440p is my thing, would be the difference be noticeable to make it worth (in this case swapping means i would not have the 2070s any more, so the proverbial cost of the 2080ti would be my 2070s + $30)

>>107205929
That E100 SSD has only 80TB of write endurance, while a 1TB SN7100 has 600 TBW by comparison.
You can keep the E100 if you're not bothered by it, but SSD is something you can carry over to the next PC build.
https://www.crucial.com/memory/ddr5/ct1000e100ssd8
https://documents.sandisk.com/content/dam/asset-library/en_us/assets/public/sandisk/product/internal-drives/wd-black-ssd/data-sheet-wd-black-sn7100-nvme-ssd.pdf

I have a separate 500GB NVMe drive for OS + non-gaming apps, it's nearly four years old, and at 40 TBW.

Here is a slightly adjusted build list. I don't think there's a point to paying the DDR5 tax if you're using a 12th-gen CPU.
12400F is basically a slightly downclocked 12600K/F with 0 e-cores. You can add the 12600KF if you want to.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nXYPRV

AM3 alternative
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KgQ3h7

Some of the components in the list are offered @ time/supply limited discounts.
There are fewer than 20 of the Kotetsu M3 CPU coolers left on Amazon.

>>107206409
why.jpg

>>107206134
Gentlemen this is exhibit A of the target audience for a Steambox (a sucker).

>>107206388
Fuck that looks good. Alright, I might pick one up.
Can you tell me anything about OLED burn?

Are 12VHPWR exteneson/adapter cables still a fire hazard?
Asking because I can't close the case without bending the standard one that came with my PSU, and am considering buying something like pic related.
Also what's the best way to support a big GPU? The manufacturer-provided support brace is a bit inadequate.

>>107206409
If its from a friend or someone you know then sure, i would think the card is faulty if someone wanted to do that trade

>>107205950
There's not much to figure out.
The CPU is a mobile Ryzen 7600 bin (30W limit) that has a lower maximum boost clock than the 7500F.
The GPU is a custom-tuned Radeon 7600M that's available in mini PCs & eGPUs, it's not the XT (28 vs 32 CU).
DDR5 memory is most likely to be a basic 2x 8GB 4800MT/s CL40 JEDEC kit.

>>107206409
Actually for $30 I'd do it. You're looking at roughly an ~18% performance uplift which isn't much but it would get your 1% Minimum FPS above 60fps @ 1440p with the extra 3GB of VRAM over the 8GB of the 2070S.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-founders-edition/39.html

As >>107206466 you might want test it in FurMark or something first to make sure it's first.

Is it true that 5000 Super cards won't release until Q3 2026? If so, I better upgrade my ancient GTX 1080 now with black friday. If I play at 1440p, is the 5070 ok or should I get 5070 Ti? The latter is 150€ more than the 5070 so I'm not sure... I've also been thinking about getting a used 4070 Ti Super for the same price as the 5070

DRAM prices being insane + tariffs being insane has to cancel a lot of products right?

Like steam machine has to pay 50-100% more for the ram
Phones have to pay it
all handhelds, consoles, laptops etc have to pay

The budget oriented devices get a 20-30% price bump.

>>107206511
If you can confirm the condition of the used 4070 Ti Super (and have a good return policy), I'd get that over the new 5070.

>>107206459
>Are 12VHPWR exteneson/adapter cables still a fire hazard?
any point at which you are introducing another possible arc can arc. now with those I read that it was caused by the supplied wire being too thin and nvidia onboard wattage limits being broke. for instance the 9070XT can't burn from it because it will never spike above 600W.

>>107206511
All of them are good choices it all depends on how much you care about having a brand new card with 5 years of warranty and which one is closer or below msrp if you are an anon that likes to upgrade after 5 or more years then 5070 TI will last you that much and the 5070 may not be a great 1440p in 5 years because of vram

>>107205454
I'm so glad I bough 128gbs of ram when I did for 280 if I remember right.

>>107206537
we have to see how the rugpull works out if it's just RAM for a few months or RAM for a year and normies also get price shocked as the elites fuck them in the ass for their computer worship

>>107206537
Manufacturers will pass on the cost to consumers (+more to profiteer) and may make fewer budget devices.

>>107206537
ps5 already got a hike on september, it all depends on what type of contracts do manufacturrs have but i expect Apple to be fine while other products may get simply delayed

>>107206459
Buy a 90° 12V-2x6 cable that is compatible with your PSU instead of that adapter.
https://store.cablemod.com/product-category/cablemod-basics/cb-12vhpwr/
https://store.cablemod.com/compatibility/

>>107206447
>Can you tell me anything about OLED burn?
1. They all have 3-year burn-in warranties meaning by the end if the period you can get a new one in the very small chance there's any.
2. As long you let the panel do it's automatic refresh cycles and don't use it for a lot of static content daily like Excel Spreadsheets and stick to chiefly reading comics. watching video, or playing games it should last at least ~6/8 years realistically.
HUBTim deliberately used his review OLED in ways normal users wouldn't in a super-torture test and at the latest update can't even see any burn-in in real content only on gray slides to highlight the difference and that was from leaving two windows open side-by-side for effectively months on end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whuHuM9h88M
3. After however many years it takes for there to become VISIBLE burn-in you'll be able to pickup a replacement as cheap or cheaper than any LCD right now that's better than what's current available.
4. If you use run it in conjunction with an LCD for a daily use you can easily expect more than 10 years of effective lifetime.

>>107206570
this dram price is ON TOP of the existing price hike
If a silicon fabrication plant can be used for a product that goes into AI servers you're gonna pay more for for component that uses same plant.

Is this site legit? I don't know anything about this kind of stuff.

>>107206603
As i said its all depends on the type of contracts, apple, Samsung, nvidia buy much more memory chips than AMD so if they have better long term contracts they'll be in a better spot in cases like this, i also expect Chinese smartphones comapnies to be relative fine as the Chinese government can pressure Hiksemi into giving them friendly dealers, they'll just have to deal with shitter lpddr and dram in their shit

i want a cheap 5070ti fucking jensen
lower your fucking prices

>>107206655
Samsung is also fine because they produce their own ram, and i expect nvidia to start building their own ram fabs after this shit

>>107206590
>PSU manufacturer not in the compatibility list
LMAO
>cablemod
double LMAO
>a "compatible" adapter is only available as a custom order
triple LMAO
Yeah man surely I'm gonna give money to the company that was directly responsible for burning up 4090's a few years back.
>>107206548
Then I guess I'll just look up, reviews and choose a reputable manufacturer that isn't known to make melting shit like the anon above suggested.

>>107206671
Samsung the mega corp has different divisions and dram made by 1 division is bought at market prices by division #2

>>107205460
>Also pics of your bro or GTFO
Here's an archive that includes pics:
https://gofile.io/d/ADVBhD

Bonus video because why not:
https://files.catbox.moe/yckvp1.mp4

>Nvidia bought 20 trillions of ram for the Data Center in china which they can no longer sell
>DRAM shortage happen
>now they sit in 20 trillions of ram that is worth 500% more which cover all the china losses
Sometimes i think luck is all you need to succed

>ordered a 5070ti on Monday
>it doesn't arrive till November 25
Fucking Amazon fuck you I want to play games. At least that extends the return window so I'll be able to get them to refund me if it goes on sale on black Friday.

>>107206681
>Yeah man surely I'm gonna give money to the company that was directly responsible for burning up 4090's a few years back.
Says the retard whose Chinkshit PSU isn't even in Cablemod's compatibility list.
Cablemod's options are recommended by SeaSonic if their first-party cables aren't sold by authorized retailers.
Cablemod recalled the problematic adapters; their cables were always safe if you followed the guidelines.

Go ahead and find a better third-party cable manufacturer.

>>107206644
I dl'd the exe from it and managed to crash my pc using it so it must be legit

>>107206719
Speculative. They would need to have a counterparty at that price, which they don't.

>>107206668
Image is funny because you cant run fortnite on steamOS

>>107206595
Thanks anon. I hope your not a shill from big OLED.

>>107206824
he's playing fortnite on his phone, why would he need a pc to play it

how tf can u compete with china

>>107206944
By making shit that doesn't catch fire and blow up.

>>107206668
Seven fiddy is about best you can get.

>>107206944
i wonder if there is a point on checking temu for some pure chinknisium poverty tier monitor