Discuss all forms of NTS-themed images, manga, anime, doujinshi, visual novels, games, etc EXCEPT:
-Content/Discussions about IRL cuckolding / Larping. This thread is only intended for 2D NTS.
-Content/Discussions about straight NTR or NTS --> NTR. (This belongs in the NTR thread)
NTS with NTR elements is okay as long as it stays NTS.

Also: long discussions are okay but make sure your post has an NTS-related image.

NTS works/illustrations:
- hhttps://niyaniya.moe/?s=tag:^netorase$ (check mirrors if link is down)
- https://hentainexus.com/?q=tag:netorase
- https://exhentai.org/tag/female:netorase
- https://exhentai.org/?f_search=female%3Anetorare%24+female%3Aswinging%24 (replace x with minus if you're a newfag)
- https://www.pixiv.net/en/tags/%E5%AF%9D%E5%8F%96%E3%82%89%E3%81%9B

Popular NTS Artists: https://pastebin.com/KhVhhGMK
NTS Games: https://pastebin.com/Pw97kzWb
More NTS Games: https://f95zone.to/threads/complete-netorase-sharing-games-master-list.90458/
https://f95zone.to/threads/complete-netorase-sharing-content-master-list.211290/
NTS Twine Novels: https://pastebin.com/gY3SPHbQ

Source: Sharing Is Caring
Previous Thread: >>8661632

>>8675259 (OP)
Man, dicks look so good.

>>8675306
I know, right? I'd love to prep those guys.

[Nyala Ponga (Sekai Saisoku no Panda)] Suizoki Nagiko-san ga Toshishita Joushi to Master no Netorase Shumi ni Tsukiau Hon (Fate/Grand Order) [English] [Digital]
https://e-hentai.org/g/3454160/bb32ae9eb7/
https://exhentai.org/g/3454160/bb32ae9eb7/
https://nhentai.net/g/586036/

>>8675795
This was basically illegible to me as a JP literaturelet.

>>8673177
"Blurring the Walls" is the absolute king of blueballing. The fucking dev keeps remaking the game from scratch without ever getting to a goddamn NTS sex scene. It's been TWO years and we have yet to see Ayumi screw somebody other than MC.
https://f95zone.to/threads/blurring-the-walls-v0-5-34-torimiata.175854/
https://torimiata.itch.io/blurring-the-walls
https://www.patreon.com/Torimiata
https://subscribestar.adult/torimiata

>>8676007
holy shit really? i played a bit, thought it was promising and was going to play again to get to the nts, but now i won't bother.

Reading this again, I'm worried at this ending. Does anyone else think this will end like Kaya, or is it just me? I don't know, honestly, maybe she lied a bit to Senpai.

Still, peak NTS. Terasu please get off your ass and make a part 2.

>>8676059
Forgot the pic, my bad.

>>8676059
>japanese writer
yes it will end in NTR

>>8676059
I dont think he's gonna make a sequel to this one it's already pretty finished
also it's terasu so his work ethic is retarded

Secrets and Boundaries has updated!

https://f95zone.to/threads/secrets-and-boundaries-v0-0-5a-fronte91.220793/
https://www.patreon.com/fronte91
https://fronte91.itch.io/

This is an alpha release, so there are some bugs to iron out, but there is still some nice content.

More kino incoming

>>8676437
wait, this is getting a sequel? fuck yes

My hotwife is so sexy!

>>8676619
Cute!

College of Mysteria has updated!

https://f95zone.to/threads/college-of-mysteria-v0-9-happystevegames.230209/
https://www.patreon.com/HappySteveGames

Changelog:
v0.9 2025/07/31
One scene for Lilly.
One NTS scene with Cindy, Eustice and Monique. With a little Lilly.
Another NTS scene with Cindy, Wendy and Grace. NTS optional, (for Cindy).
12 000 words, 150 images.

I really hope it's the devs advertissing their trash here and not some F95 cockroaches who think nobody here know about the existence of F95 or how to search shit on it.

Personally, I count swinging as NTS, but I'm sure someone will contest that
https://x.com/SefureSync/status/1945624488004985261

>>8676749
My biggest complaint is that most of them are ai slop, tiny .01 updates every few months, or both at the same time.
The two I actually like are King of Summer and Holdcraft Resort (more NTRish)

This is so cute, i wished we had more Takagi doujin with this plot

>>8676825
which one is that? reverse img search failing me

Kayabros are we ready for tomorrow?

>>8676871
this will probably settle the classification of ntr or nts once and for all. lol

>>8676825
This is NTS
>>8676871
This is NTR

>>8676749
>Every generation, civilization is invaded by barbarians - we call them "children".
If we don't keep linking to F95zone, how are newfags supposed to learn where to get this stuff?

really hope dekosuke makes more kyoko

>>8677149
>all roads lead to BBC
Based.

>>8677149
>smug tomboy
>voluptuous body
>fang
I kneel

>>8677149
Prbably the best NTS series in the last decade.

>>8676007
>It's been TWO years and we have yet to see Ayumi screw somebody other than MC
That's actually fucking hilarious

New hinako any good?

>>8676749
>>>Dev pretending to be Anon posting multiple of their paid links in thread.

I thought it was so obvious it wasn't even worth mentioning.

>>8676871
So fucking hot, I'd kill to get cucked by this Goddess...

>>8677462
Can you post the full set please?

>>8677446

Meh

>>8676007
Has she even touched another cock?

>>8677475
It's on panda

>>8677576
>loli NTS
Oh fuck yes

>>8677462
Same lol. That doujin definitely fucked my brain badly, I even paint "cuck" or "shrimpdick" over my body when I masturbate lmao

>>8677462
we really got cuckception from Terasu before GTA6. Cuck gets off to girlfriend fucking BBC but the BBC is getting off to the girlfriend dominating the cuck.

Can I get a QRD on the new Hinako? Who's that girl they were playing games with (mob face girl, a cute tbqh) and who did Hinako fug? Did Hinako reveal any major cuckenings in her recount to Yuuichi?

>>8677576
>first Mutsuki now Kisaki

FUCKING YES, BASED MOMONOSUKE

>>8677828
i think it was a childhood friend or a previous stint the cuck didnt know of

the bull i mean

>>8677845
>>8677828
She showed a video that was muted.
The implication was that she might have met Goda again.

>>8677462
I hate this series so much. Not because it's bad, but because it's so close to being good. If only it had a better premise that wasn't just "girl randomly cheats and decides to stockholm her bf with her new bull" and Kaya showed a tiny bit more affectionate than "hehe if you let me record you begging like a dog, I'll go beg the bull to be looser with your enforced chastity cage while he nuts in me", I'd fuck with it, but no. I hate it. It's even worse because it flirts with the idea of Kaya caring about the cuck, but it's still just her and the bull stockholming the cuck in its essence.

Reminder kaya is not NTS, and all the NTS tags are long gone for it except maybe on sites that don't matter since they are just mirrors.

Kaya is NTS simply due to the boyfriend getting excited about seeing his girlfriend with another man.

>>8677828
As a response to the people in the fanbox complaining about being of Goda, the author decided he really wants to build up to NTR arc 2.0. The foundations were immediately laid down after the sex and reclamation arc.
>she says she's sorry Yuuichi but Goda has ruined my pussy and his dick is really the best thing I've ever experienced
>she asks to have a go with Goda again please? also she says she might be falling in love with him for real
>Yuuichi thinks maybe if she fucks other guys she won't get stolen
>She fucks a total of one (1) other guy until the implications restart that she's seeing Goda in secret again
Up until now the reporting shows who the bull is, and now Hinako is withholding that information. I'm predicting we'll get a reveal that it's been Goda all along and we'll get a HNNGGHHH!! *splurt splurt* from Yuuichi prompting Hinako to just let him accept being a pussy free cuck pet for the new couple.

>>8678046
*complaining about being tired of Goda

>>8678046
at this point i just want him to bite the bullet and make nts with other girls. clearly he's done caring about hinako (the fatasy spin-offs were refreshingly nice)

>>8678040
Every single NTR work ever has the cuck crying getting hard to it. Just like Kaya. I guess NTR doesn't exist anymore? Since it's all NTS?

>>8678072
He has gotten off once! it's NTS it's NTS screams the mad man

>>8678040
If it's not consensual there's no NTS

>>8678072
In most NTR works, the cuck is never shown finding out about the cucking

Kaya is 100% NTR. I jerked off to it headcanoning that she loved the cuck and was doing it all for him, rather than just using him as a toy for her and the bull, but that doesn't make it true lmao? Terasu knows what he's doing baiting NTS cucks with these tiny little scrap pannels of her having a kind caring facial expression towards the cuck. It's fucking NTS baiting.

>>8678072
Most NTR does not have the cuck getting hard to it

>>8678130
here we go, now it's how hard the cuck is. The absolute state of ntrfags reduced to measure cocks to justify NTS to NTR when it's not straight out NTR.

Kaya has mindbroken this general, again, kek.

>>8678140
What are you even talking about you negative IQ ESL faggot when did I say a peep about dicks or measurements? It's easy to forget when you're in your bubble but the vast bulk of NTR is depression/corruption focused and the dude getting cheated on gets zero action or positive attention. Those people get off on actual suffering and feel good about it, there's no fuzzy dividing line for them

I just want Kaya to say she loves Yousuke. Or at the very least kiss him. I'd need at least that much to even entertain the idea it's NTS. But she wouldn't, because she doesn't love Yousuke, because he's just her pet, because it's NTR.

>>8678203
I don't know if this is on purpose, but I always found the social media posts in Kaya really funny and kinda sad on Kaya's part. Like, she swapped her profile from a life blog to a hardcore fetish blog and the posts get a handful of likes. If I knew her in real life it would feel like a cry for help.

>>8678199
no need to be mad, it's ok if you like cocks just wish you would post about it in the right threads.

sir, nts kino just dropped

>>8677576
I just realized it's the same guy that did this CG set. I hope he makes more netorase stuff in the future

>>8678225
not new and not even a translation

>>8678227
You were saying, anon?

>>8678319
It's not new, it's been out for ages. Just the translation is. And no, even with the context, it doesn't change anything if you only read the raws. Bull impreg with a happy ending.

>>8677576
>>8678226
My dick couldn't believe it when he drew Shirabe blacked NTS...

>>8678319
She's so cute

>>8677933
I think it's a product of its time. NTR was then and still is more popular than NTS, but back when the first Kaya story dropped, NTS was barely even a thing. Now there is a much larger following for NTS and many people not only prefer it over NTR, but some don't even have an interest in NTR, so I think Terasu tried to pivot the story. But like you said , it comes off as Stockholm syndrome since Kaya never expressed love for the boyfriend in the beginning and it started off purely as cheating.

>>8678425
not /h/

More kino incoming

Can you guys help me find this Doujin I've been looking for. It's 2 parts. Premise is about this young salary worker and his cute wife. It's made apparent she's really cute and sweet. They have lovey dovey sex in thr first part iirc. 2nd part he invites his coworkers over for a drinking party. MC encourages his coworker to grope his wife to appreciate how cute she is. He gets drunk. She gets drunk. She ends up fucking his boss with MCs permission. Happy ending.

I've spend a couple hours on a couple of nights looking for it. It's mostly buried. It's got a cute softer style and I believe it's untranslated.

>>8677812
Wait there's a second part?

>>8678225
>>8678319
Enari is still one of the best

>>8677462
The wait for translation begins...

>>8678718
Sounds like a Doriichin Koubou or Itou Eight plot. Try searching around with the tags on this one: https://exhentai.org/g/2311620/198f849637

It's similar to the plot you're describing, but this one's fully translated and with 10 parts.

>>8678908
Unfortunately that's not it. Still pretty good though.

>>8676749
Not gonna lie because of the way they so many of them are formatted when posted here I just thought it was one autistic retard who thought he was being helpful.

>>8678718
This one?
https://niyaniya.moe/g/7189/355b164c54b8

>>8678718
>>8679084
Or this?

>>8676825

>>8678203
I find it weird how you bargain for NTR and NTS down to the most minimal detail. As if jerking off to one over the other would make you any more or less of a cuck despite residing right in the middle of cucktown

>>8679106
Woah, a Terasu happy ending. Someone make a wish!

Kaya also had a bit of closure in this drop. Her pet seems to be doing well. Now all that's left is seeing Twintail's kid with her BF and her still doing NTS. That would be peak.

Thank you for the Anon who recommended Nebel!

It's a GOAT game and I coom buckets while chasing after my girl!

>>8676825
>she took responsibility by marrying him
cute

>>8679149
>>8679106

>>8679153
Stop posting NTR lil nigger

>>8679085
NTA but it's definitely not that. That series doesn't match up to what the other anon was talking about.

Enari's been a lot more active lately which is awesome. he makes great takurann content

>>8679155
it's nts easily

>>8679167
Nah. She manipulated him into being a cuck. If the chick forces it, then it's NTR.

>>8679167
Are we doing futas now? Because Nia has some nice impregnation NTS cause by medical infertility.

https://exhentai.org/g/3270234/02370e86d9/
https://exhentai.org/g/2908569/a20e1d9d9e/

It's very different from Bingdak's stuff, which is nominally NTS but always ends up as NTR.

https://exhentai.org/g/3321619/aece8340e8/
https://exhentai.org/g/3327060/109b5582fd/
https://exhentai.org/g/3327113/23bc55e46d/

>>8679186
>man who asks his wife, who would never have cheated in any circumstance, to cuck him and she starts liking it is ok
>woman who asks her husband to get cucked and he starts liking it is NTR

>>8679212
She didn't ask you ingenious faggot. She literally forced cuckoldry upon him. Kill yourself

>>8679186
>>8679234
He wasn't forced. She awakened the fetish in him. If he wasn't a cuck deep down it wouldn't have worked.

The cuck should be underneath them so he can drink the squirt and cum

>>8679249
>t. Kaya NTR cuckold

Need help looking for a Doujin about female NTS aka Cuckqueaning. The premise was that the MC (girl) once watched a show where a woman seduces a man in a relationship, and seeing the despair of the cucked girl turns on the MC and she masturbates to it. Then she gets in a relationship with a guy and fantasises about him cheating on her, until one day she makes the request and films her BF having sex with another, voluptuous girl.
I swear I had saved this doujin but I cannot find it in my storage, using male:netorase tag on popular sites also doesn't get me anything.
Thanks in advance, and here's a pic for your trouble.

what's your favorite NTS games?

>>8676059
I really hope he makes part 2 and it will stay NTS because it's my favorite of his. I don't know if I'm the only one but I find the sports setting in NTS very hot, especially basketball related.
I played in my higschool basketball team (lmao) and we got our assess beaten during the city tournament by the rival school, and their best player who was also capitan started dating my crush next year. That's why I absolutely love any sports related NTS.

Holy shit this was so fucking good. I'm new to this fetish, but I think I've already seen its peak.

I'm looking for content in which the girls describes vividly to her partner how the sex with others was like. Any recommendations?

>>8679438
god that milf looks so hot. that hair style and inverted nipples too are just so fucking good on her.

>>8679721
love this one, really need more gacha nts

>>8679197
Need more futa nts

>>8679789
Source?

>>8675259 (OP)
>OP pic.
What a surprisingly decent little work. The option of getting to pick which girl gets impregnated by which guy too was a fun inclusion.

>>8679084
>>8679085

God. I hate to be this Anon, but these aren't it either.

I'm trying to remember more about. I think the title was something like 'my beautiful wife ______'. Like it It looks like a lovey dovey vanilla Doujin. It even kind of sort of feels like it. The second part, the drinking party at the home, isn't really malicious either. It's pretty vanilla. I think that's the reason why this flew by most people. It's not the typical giant dick black mail bull impregnating affair. It's just some cute wife getting drunk, taking her clothes off, and banging the MCs boss.

>>8680033
How the fuck is that NTS

It's really sad that almost nobody enjoyed this NTS masterpiece as much as I did. The "spiritual sequel" will be out at the end of the month so I wish more people enjoyed the first game. The gameplay is a bit shit, even with cheats, but the whole setting about the MC (you) and your womanizer best friend working together to create an opportunity for him to have NTS sex with your girlfriend is just god-tier to me. If you get past the struggle of the intro it just works so good.

>>8680033
And this is from the perspective of the MC, with his consent? Or from her perspective, as a cheating story? If the latter, you might wanna look for the cheating tag.

>>8680109
Yeah, it's pretty good, the shitty official translation, not being MTL friendly and having some actual timed gameplay and not just reading text is probably why it's not very popular outside japan.

>>8680065
>>8680134

I can't recall if she works with MC or not. But the second part of the doujin they're at their home entertaining the MCs coworkers and Boss. Theres allot of internal monologue from the boss/supervisor. He MC is a bit of a goof and kind of likeable, like he's drunk on love and how lucky he is. She's cooking. MC brags about her. It's pretty obvious from the panels they're all talking about her. I can't remember the minutia of how one things leads to another. But she gets drunk. He gets drunk. 2 of his 3 coworkers pass out. It's just the 2 of them and his boss/supervisor. She's naked, MC is drunk. She says she's getting hot. They have a close moment. This part is from the perspective of the supervisor. She approaches him and they bang. I think MC gets something at the end, I don't remember. It's not the typical Bull, stag, reclamation plot. It least not overtly. It's drawn with a cute style, none of the characters are aggressive or condensending. Im pretty sure the cover is just her being cute. Don't quote me on this but I think she has pink hair. My memory has allot of bleed over from "Boku no Kanojo wa Cafe Tenin ~Beit Saki de Netorareta Kanojo". But it's that kind of style.

I appreciate the tag recommendations to search for, but I think this just got buried. I'll keep searching myself.

>>8680154
When I say 'close moment'. There's a panel of the Supervisor looking over at the Naked Wife and MC, and they seem to be reaffirming that she's allowed to bang the Sueprvisor. Supervisor is a little confused because he can't hear them. After that moment, then she Approaches the Supervisor. I had to Google translate the text so allot of it was gibberish and cryptic. But I think that's the jist.

>>8680109
GodTier taste. I come back to it every once in a while.

Ntrobo fix girl doujinshi should be coming out today. Pages 17 to 33. Please share as soon it drops.

>>8680109
What game is this?

>>8680365
Nevermind I found it

>>8680365
僕の彼女とヤッてみる?
RJ01081159

>>8680234
What's your favorite part of it? For me it's pic related, the "compare dicks" part. When the gf start to break a bit and start to show some real curiosity about your friend even if she was just being polite and try to not hurt your feelings until now.

>>8680145
It's a shame that the english TL is shit. I can read moon so I don't have this problem but I wish you guys could enjoy the dialogue without the MTL nonsense bullshit. I really hope the dev listened to some fans comments saying that it was too hard or that the timed gameplay is kinda stressful. The thing is the spiritual sequel seems to be about a whole onsen trip with a lot of men so i'm afraid it will be a lot of group play and I fucking hate that in NTR/NTS. I'm a big 1 on 1 fan, group thing kill the mood for me it's just a gangbang at this point.

>>8680154
it kind of sounds like
https://exhentai.org/g/2234781/86133c8192/
but doesnt feature multiple coworkers and is more on the forced stockhold syndrome side

If the dev can pull this off, Shades of Blue/Stains of Blue/Tainted Aquamarine/Whatever The Fuck He's Calling It Now will become the greatest NTS game in history. That demo was fantastic, easily on par with commercial titles, and that song shows that this is an absolute labor of love.

https://www.patreon.com/stainsofblue
https://f95zone.to/threads/stains-of-blue-development-thread.261527/
https://f95zone.to/threads/tainted-aquamarine-development-thread.98448/

In the twilight's grip I dive
A sea of colors comes alive
Midnight whispers soft and true
What's your shade of blue?

Sapphire skies, bright as your name
Azure lips, temptations unchained
Cobalt eyes, stare down in between
Gentle and tender like aquamarine

Stains of blue, what do you do?
They pull me closer, break us in two
Witness me taken, passions renew
As I'm tainted in shades of blue

Their touch bleeds like colored lies
Yet invokes your darkest desires
Wanton drips in every hue
Who am I in your shade of blue?

Lost in the sea, call out my name
Corrupted and tainted, it's never the same
Cerulean fire cutting through the pristine
Sharp as a knife, obsessions unseen

Stains of blue, what do you do?
They pull us further, make me there too
Witness me taken, passions renewed
As I'm tainted in shades of blue

>>8680535
>Greatest NTS
>NTR route

>>8680544
Every NTS game needs an NTR route so that your choices actually have meaning; otherwise it's a glorified kinetic novel.

>>8680556
If there's an NTR route she's just a cheating whore regardless of your choices. The only exception to this is those games that make it so that she only cheats if you cheat or something like that. If you want NTS games with gameplay then you wouldn't be reading a visual novel you'd be playing a game.

>>8680564
The game's whole gimmick is that FMC has a completely different personality depending on which shade of blue you pick. I'm pretty sure Aquamarine would neve cheat on you, but Cobalt totally would.

>>8680576
Femdom doesn't mean they'd cheat on you unless you mean in the sense that they take control and don't ask first but if that's agreed before hand it's not cheating.

>>8680564
>If there's an NTR route she's just a cheating whore regardless of your choices
If you don't choose the cheating whore choices then how is she a cheating whore?

>>8680582
What do you mean by "cheating whore choices"? If she ends up in a situation where she's alone with a dude and she chooses to cheat on you then she's always a whore it's just that other routes lack the opportunity for her to show that.

>>8680583
What if you deliberately push her by treating her like shit, ignoring her, refusing sex, getting her drunk and then leaving her alone with a guy, etc.?

>>8680598
I think allowing cheating in any circumstances is a slippery slope especially because people can use mental gymnastics to justify cheating in any situation instead of communicating they have a problem but yes cheating only when you're an asshole makes it more tolerable although in reality they should really communicate with you and leave you if the relationship is unsalvageable.

>>8680535
>NTR route
not NTS
any NTR route at all ruins the NTS because if there's a possibility she'd fall completely, then it's not NTS, it's like NTR-lite

>>8680564
>If there is a parallel dimension where my parents chose to abandon me at birth and I was raised in an abusive orphange and turned into a serial killer then it means I am inherently evil
Local anon discovers that people's personalities are shaped by their environments and they in fact do not have their ultimate destinies baked into the fabric of their souls at birth

>>8680564
>>8680583
>>8680601
you're such an insecure fag.

>>8680675
Go back to the NTR thread if you can't accept facts retarded subhuman

>>8680544
>>8680564
>>8680610
>>8680707
Brother, you are literally choosing the wife's personality in this game. You pick the husband's too. If she cheats on the husband, and we don't even know if she will yet, it's because you picked both the options that allowed for it...

>>8680719
If there exists a route where she cheats on her own accord then she's a massive whore. These Jewish devs can't help it but to include ntr shit in their "nts" games to get more shekels. Hope they all flop and they KILL themselves

>>8680740
t. insecure schizo

>>8680744
how was this nts again?

ts when

>>8680742
>ntrniggers are braindead
Slice your wrists

>>8680748
It's not exactly like it's difficult to rip the text via OCR and then pop that into an MTL by any means. Although I guess it would take some time to do, but given the alternative is doing nothing or waiting until someone goes through the effort not just translating it, but then putting that text to the image, it's probably the faster output.

>>8680719
if there is an NTR route, with the same girl, it's NTR
if they want to do different routes, do different girls instead of "different personalities"

>>8680748
>post korean translation, beg for TS
Never change, EOPs

My wife Jane and I are feasting our favourite meals!

>>8680675
You're a retard. It's not insecurity to know that a cheating whore is always a cheating whore even if she never gets the opportunity to show that.
>>8680619
You're retarded. I'm saying that if she cheats then then she's not loyal in other routes she just hasn't had the opportunity to cheat.

I didn't lurk these threads for a while but I see that the "everything I don't like is NTR" schizo is still terrorizing this general

>>8680821
I think that's purely a matter of how you personally appreciate narratives in a multi-ending story. You seem to believe that all routes stem from a certain base set of truths i.e if there is an NTR route then from the beginning of the story she could've been a loyal wife but always had the option of being a whore therefore all routes carry that assumption, whereas I believe you should treat each route as its own story without thinking about the meta "divergence point" of the game's choices leading you to the different routes, i.e if you play and get the NTR route you had a cheating whore from the beginning, but if you get the NTS route you had a loyal wife from the start.

>>8680386
Every moment basically. Everything leading up to the creampie. It's such a genius fetish game. Shame it's such a short game and no other routes are available.

>>8680842
It's really short but the next one have many characters so I expect it to be a bit longer, or at least with more sex situations

>>8680832
That's just retarded video game logic though assuming that they are completely different people instead of the same person in every timeline.

>>8680821
>I'm saying that if she cheats then then she's not loyal in other routes she just hasn't had the opportunity to cheat.
No I didn't misunderstand you you colossal faggot, that's exactly what I was rebutting. Regardless of personality there is a combination of words and actions that could get someone to cheat. Depending on their exact character it might be too egregious to cover in the short span of a VN (very kind and gentle and attached types) but saying
>NOOOOOO my wife is PERFECT she would NEVER
is blatantly delusional. To be clear I'm not advocating that all VNs should have NTR routes like the first guy was suggesting. I just don't think the existence of one even begins to exclude a wider work from being NTS.

>>8680872
If you have a loyal wife but I show you a timeline in which she's meets some handsome dude she's into and then she cheats on you do you really consider her to be loyal?
>words and actions
We discussed this already. Only cheaters try to use the excuse of "it's your fault I cheated". If your wife makes you mad or the relationship isn't how you want it to be do you communicate with her and try to improve things or do you use this an excuse to justify cheating when given the opportunity?

>>8680876
I think you're talking around me. I don't necessarily disagree that there's a type of girl for which it would require an unreasonably long series of events that build up animosity and distrust over years, something unsuitable for light reading. But that could still happen. There's no one for which it """couldn't""" happen. Your infallible saint wife does not exist, and if she were written into fiction as you describe, it would be shitty writing. The whole crux of this isn't that you actually believe the argument you're making at face value, but rather that you have a particular niche taste in girls and just want to see more of that.

>>8680883
I know that loyal people are incredibly rare which is why so many people don't trust their partners and wouldn't allow them to be alone with a woman/dude but for NTS you need a partner you can actually trust which is why NTS is a fantasy fetish.

>>8680884
I just... you don't seem to get that loyalty isn't a one-way thing.
>Only cheaters try to use the excuse of "it's your fault I cheated".
Wholeheartedly disagree. Maybe the more mature thing to do if she's feeling discontent or temptation is to officially break up with the hubby first, but bailing on a relationship does not damn someone's character. (You) have to give her reason to stay. You can't just be passively spoiled by her and offer nothing in return, or repeatedly go against her wishes. She has to be seeing something concrete that makes her like you, and that has to be established in the plot repeatedly to make the relationship as you describe believable.
>But I would never do any horrible stuff like that!
That's exactly what we're talking about, isn't it? Branching choices.

>>8680889
Bailing on a relationship doesn't damn someone's character but cheating does. It goes both ways and you seemingly ignored that. If your girlfriend doesn't have sex with you enough do you simply cheat or communicate? Again if you're an asshole then you need to communicate or leave. Yes being an asshole makes it slightly more tolerable but rarely does the NTR route ever exist only if the player intentionally does bad things.

>>8680892
>Bailing on a relationship doesn't damn someone's character but cheating does
This is what I meant a couple posts ago. That's just a taste of yours. It's not a requisite. A more brash woman might be vulnerable to both. You just only like a very small subset of archetypes and everyone else is trash to you. It's weird.

>>8680865
It's pretty disingenuous for you to dismiss it as "retard video game logic" and also regard the whole VN like the reader is a 5th dimensional entity who can sift through multiple timelines for each route. Again that's why I think your form of experiencing the story is a personal one, some people care about the completionist approach with routes and some just read a VN once and maybe only skim through the others for curiosity.

If a character's actions in a part of the game that you yourself claim not to like is egregious enough that it ruins the experience even in the routes you DO like, that's more of a you problem.

>>8680900
I'm just not sure why you'd ever want a cheater. I don't understand why anyone would genuinely say "yeah it's okay if she would cheat if she felt it was okay to do so or that I hadn't treated her right" or vice versa I don't understand why women would tolerate that from their husband outside of not wanting to leave them because they make money.
>>8680908
It's only tolerable if you disconnect some part of your brain to try and ignore the fact that she would cheat. You can enjoy many games doing that sort of thing but if you sit back and think for a moment it just isn't great. To be fair most normalfags do this irl they'll do things like not allow their partner to be alone with the opposite gender but never really confront that it means they don't trust them or that they think their partner would cheat under the right circumstances because when you realize that you realize most people aren't loyal they're shit and most loyal people were probably filtered out of the gene pool a long time ago.

>>8680910
>I'm just not sure why you'd ever want a cheater
I don't. It's a matter of scale. The kind of woman who would never ever cheat, or at least the kind that's so gentle it's not feasible for it to come up in the scope of the narrative, is way too limiting. I like tsunderes, tomboys, dommy mommies, etc etc. Girls that bite back a bit instead of just rolling over for the MC. It's just my taste. Forcing types like that to apply to your ridiculous standard requires them to act so inhuman that it destroys my suspension of disbelief and turns me off just as much as seeing someone that's not my type anyway. Like, I get your point of wanting to indulge in a fantasy that can't happen in real life, but I don't think it's a wild take to want a bare minimum of realism either as a standard. You are the strange one for not being able to empathize with that even a little bit.

>>8680397

I'm not trolling, I swear to christ. This isn't it either.

I've gone through every tag I think is relavent and followed them 2 years out: Cheating, Netorare, Netorase, drunk. I searched for key japanese words like "Great", "Wife", "cute", "Best".
I can't find this damn thing. My only guess is that it's not on nhentai anymore so I need to search Sadpanda or a doujin site like DL or getch. That, and my other thought is it just wasn't tagged. One of the those cases where its some no name author that makes something with no interests.

Back to the grind. thank you Anons for searching with me.

>>8680974
> not searching sadpanda first
brother what are you doing

>>8681003
I didnt read it on sad panda. I Didn't think it was gonna be this hard to find.

>>8680974
If it's not in nhentai anymore it might also not be in sadpanda as well since it's likely it got copyrighted. Try hitomi and https://panda.chaika.moe/

>>8680974
I have spent hours looking for manga because someone had forgotten to add a tag to it which made it extremely hard to find from what I remembered. I feel your pain and hope you find it soon

>>8681056
Or if they misspell the tag or use lesser known variant of the tag

>>8680971
If the only way a woman wouldn't cheat was if she "didn't have bite" that just means the remaining women would want to cheat but didn't have the guts to do it. I personally would never cheat and would either communicate issues with my partner and try to solve them or break up if it's not working out even with us trying to solve problems. I don't think it's as rare as you think for someone to never cheat even if their partner is an asshole.

>>8680535
>'NTS' games need to pander to NTRash fans aswell.. just because it does bro!
Good to see this bs being called out. You should be spending time to develop quality pure NTS instead of wasting it on developing NTRash routes. Also >>8680601 nailed it, exactly my thoughts.

IMO NTS should never have an optional NTR route because then you're always bracing for things to go wrong. Having your fail state be NTR just feels bad. I don't think people play NTS for this.

>>8681433
I would imagine the overlap for NTR or NTR-adjacent fetishes i.e. NTS is quite large. At the end of the day, no matter what, you've got a woman who's getting off to great sex while neglecting their significant other/family. How the cuck feels/what he thinks is almost irrelevant. The only thing that matters is that he exists in a notable sense, otherwise the story is just cheating.

I imagine most NTRfags don't mind NTS, even if NTSfags don't like NTR.

>>8681023
>>8681056
>>8681056


My brothers. I found it. It wasn't on nhentai(.net). I feel like an idiot. Took all of 15 minutes looking through dlsite. My memory was like 95% on the money. Thank you everyone for helping me look and showing me the errors in my way.

https://nhentai.xxx/g/475631/

>>8681473
If the wife is neglecting her relationship with the husband to be with the bull, that is not NTS to me. The husband is integral to an NTS storyline, and should be at the heart of why she's going along with it. If he's irrelevant, then it's just a cheating or NTR story.

OC, it's AI slop through and through, what do you think? couple living with a coomer roommate and teasing him, I have already described the idea more in previous threads. do you think it has potential?

>>8681493
I should clarify I use the word "neglect" in the sense that she's devoting time that could be spent with her lover/family to spend it with a bull or randos purely for sexual gratification of either the cuck or both her and the cuck.

>>8680365
>>8680380
So did you play it anon? What did you think of it?

>>8681500
FMC looks great; I particularly appreciate her hairy armpits and bush. But roommate's dick ruins it. Looks like he chopped off a horse's cock and grafted it on himself.

>>8681519
Not yet. I'll give it a shot later but if the English is really bad I'm don't have too much hope because NTS dialogue is important to the experience.

>>8680564
Anon, are you familiar with the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics? Basically, scientists have discovered that any time you make a decision, there is a parallel universe where you made the opposite decision. So, by your definition, all women are massive whores, because they all have the potential to cheat, and do so in alternate timelines.

>>8681555
That's not the same thing at all. With routes the type of person you are determines whether you're going to make X or Y decision before you get there. It's closer to laplace's demon where the input variables (your entire personality, character and values etc) determine the outcomes. It's like an AI simulation using a brain scan of you to determine what decisions you make in each situation.

>>8680974
>>8681015
Do you remember how long it might have been? Like 20–40 pages, or 100+ pages?

>>8680583
The things that don't happen in your run don't happen and thus aren't relevant to the story of your run. I am completely stumped by how you view video games.

Is there any other new NTS games?

>>8681697
Bonds Defiled will supposedly add an NTS route in the next release.

https://discord.gg/mVJwMmdv5F
https://www.patreon.com/BondsDefiled
https://subscribestar.adult/bondsdefiled
https://www.youtube.com/@BondsDefiled
https://f95zone.to/threads/bonds-defiled-v0-33-pub-bonds-defiled.259204/

>>8681709
>multiple girls on the preview
Yeah no thanks

my fav

>>8681473
>how the cuck feels/what he thinks is irrelevant
Wrong, retarded NTRpig. It's one of the MOST important aspects of NTS

Found an interesting game

>>8681747
>RPGM
>interesting
Go seek Canadian healthcare. Ren'Py exists for a fucking reason, and that reason is because I don't want to walk around fighting monsters to unlock sex scenes without the ability to fast forward through seen dialogue, save at any time, check the conversation log, or create more than three save files.

>>8681752
I did say a game, not VN

>>8681752
funny you say that, you can actually make an RPG in renpy
I think monster girl dreams is ran in renpy (not an NTS game though)

>>8681752
>if i don't like it, it shouldn't exist.
as usual you and your shit opinions can fuck off.

>>8681763
But enough about yourself. Fuck off to f95 if you want to play dogshit rpgms, retard.

>>8681760
Innana Revenge is a good example of a Ren'Py RPG game with an NTS route. You can either share your slaves or keep them to yourself. The writing is surprisingly good for being a standard fantasy isekai setting.

https://discord.com/invite/Gjg2aexZmZ
https://www.patreon.com/c/atemx/home
https://atemx-games.itch.io/inanna-revenge
https://f95zone.to/threads/inanna-revenge-ep-2-atemx-games.238419/

Broken Sky wants to implement an RPG combat system, but it hasn't yet. What it DOES have is some hot NTS scenes. I particularly liked the one where you whore out your girlfriend to the bartender for a free drink. The setting is fantastic, a futuristic cyberpunk city where you work as corporate security. You can either keep FMC for yourself, share her, have an open relationship, build a harem, or let her cuckold you.

https://discord.gg/T5BtZT5GEP
https://www.subscribestar.com/brokensky
https://f95zone.to/threads/broken-sky-v0-5-2-public-wistala.181739/

>>8681766
This is an incredible bit, F95 thread poster. Never leave.

>>8681766
interesting, I have been toying with the idea of making my next game have some rpg stuff (nothing too extensive) so I'll have to look into this

>>8681766
wow this broken sky game sounds aweso-
>furry shit
there's always a fucking catch

If this drops on panda, I will coom into the next universe. Netorase Tsuma is one of my top 10s. Suga really knows how to make petite wives.

Anyone knows if any other big shots are in the C106? So far I've only seen the Nemui one. BDSM NTS is underrated too.

>>8681784
>petite
She has a big rack lil bro

>>8681823
Yeah, this particular one has really big ones. Such squeezable nipples too. There's more petite ones in the whole collection though. All of them wives, I think. Most of Suga's stuff is untranslated.

>>8681766
The NTS in Innana Revenge is pretty underwhelming. It's unironically better to just play it as a regular harem game.

>>8681747
Been following this one since release. Development is kind of a shitshow with the dev constantly adding more gameplay systems instead of fleshing out what already exists.

>>8681709
Supposedly the NTS is only available if you get NTR'd first.

>>8681997
NTR -> NTS is better than NTS -> NTR. At least then you can get a happy ending.

>>8682039
Kek. Kaya is NTR --> NTS and it's anything but a happy ending for the cuck

>>8681784
same desu. The first one is one of my favs. So long as there's not pregnancy I will be diamonds

>>8681709
When the AI art looks this shit I can't help but think that the writing is going to be lazy and bad too and at that point why even download a game when you could go read erotica or even just talk to a fucking chatbot? Who is playing all of these?

>>8682112
F95 cuckroaches that's who. They play them by habits and because they have no tastes.

Anyone else really like phone/texting type of games? I think there's a lot of potential in that format, it's very immersive and you can self insert easier, also it's way better way to implement choices and routes than your average VN. Sadly there's not much good content at the moment, most of it is ai trash, but I found two good titles; NTR Phone and Sexting My GF (both have NTS routes)

>>8681519
I haven't finished it yet but it wasn't what I expected. It's sort of a puzzle/stat management game. The translation being bad kinda hurts the puzzle elements but so far it's good.

>>8682039
NTS -> NTR -> NTS -> Vanilla with teasing of the past

>>8682218
Yeah the gameplay is really weird, I really recommend you to use the cheat menu because some parts of the intro are too frustrating. But once you get past the first "barrier" of your GF it become a masterpiece (at least to me)

>>8682240
They'll call you a ntrnigger but you get it.

>>8682243
I liked it up the end where she tries to have sex behind your back because I'm not a fan of NTS -> NTR

>>8682337
I see what you mean, the shower scene is kind of problematic among NTR/NTS fans. I mean the MC is listening to them talking about having more cheating sex in the future even behind his back but his friend is doing it while fully aware that he is behind the door listening, so is it really NTS -> NTR or is your friend doing it for your kink (and for him too ofc)? I'm not sure

>>8682240
Why would I be okay with a woman who genuinely cheats/breaks boundaries?

I would rather be with a slut who's fucked 100 men before me, but when she was with me she had a heart of gold, was lovey dovey, and loyal to a fault.

>>8682174
They're fucking shit imo, just slop it up with SillyTavern instead

>>8681766
okay I tried this broken sky game and there is currently like, negative content at the moment, also it's filled with really really bad looking ai slop placeholders?
oh, and the furry creator's OC character is the only one in the game whose sprite is animated because....?
Also 5 seconds in you are preached to about the dev saying "Dont skip the dialogue bro, this isn't JUST a porn game"

>>8682174
>Sexting My GF
Current best in genre just from the writing alone.

>>8682174
The problem is that you can't involve the cuck in scenes because you know, he's on his phone

>>8682511
can't wait for the boss NTS route and I never realized how hot it is to chat with a bull who is also your best friend

>>8682530
that's the biggest downside but I think you can implement real time events or even something like livestream from her phone when she's on a date. I hope there will be some very talented dev who's going to make a proper game like that with original art

>>8682571
>chat with a bull who is also your best friend
Feels a bit gay at times.

>>8682571
I was thinking about it but isn't the genre super saturated with like a billion AI slop games made from some template?

It's quite a bit of work to write a proper framework for such a game and I'm afraid i can't really showcase the higher quality gameplay unlike with a more traditional VN where the well isn't as poisoned and it's easier to stand out

I can maybe make a vertical slice without implementing proper UI scaling to test the idea, i have a bunch of gameplay ideas for a phone based game i do want to explore

>>8682580
Despite the complaints it really isn't oversaturated. If you put out a decent product it will get noticed.

>>8681500
You're definitely cooking anon. Keep at it

>>8682580
where can i get the template? i wanna make some sloppa

>>8682768
For sure. VR did that. It's still the only player in the western NTS VN space in which both the artist and the writer tried, and despite being far from perfect, it's already leagues above the competition just because they actually tried. It's a starving genre. If you make something decent, people will notice.

>>8682240
>>8682309
>unironic NTR apologists
Kill yourselves

Question for the thread, as I'm always curious to learn about you all. Humiliation.

How important is it to you for NTS? Do you like it? Love it? Not care for it? Should it come from the heroine, the bull, or both? On a scale from 1 to 10, 1 being coy teasing like
>Bull-sama's rough hands felt so big and manly~, your touch is loving, but a little danity, you know? Still, I love it too.
Or 10
>Gargling the bull's jizz before hocking a semen luggie onto Cuck-kun's face and noting that despite having swallowed half, it's still twice as much and as thick as Cuck-kun's, and how his is only fit to dribble onto the floor

>>8682868
I like the coy teasing, but i don't mind the more meaner teasing. i think invoking the humiliation of ntr through nts is really good too

>>8682768
Fuck it, you've convinced me
Any suggestions? Is there also anything you think is a must have for the demo?
Also should i post a dev build without any scenes/real dialogue, having some feedback on that would be helpful but I'm not sure if anyone would be interested in testing a porn game...without the porn kek

>>8682836
It's a difficult genre for the average ADHD eroge dev because you have to actually plan the story out, unlike NTR which has a super easy story progression
It doesn't help that gameplay for the genre is also harder compared to: defeat -> get NTR'ed

>>8682884
>having some feedback on that
referring to the UI and some gameplay systems

>>8682868
I think regardless of intensity there has to be the right intent. A lot of authors tend to put humiliation for humiliation's sake, but it has to be purposeful. Humiliation needs to be foreplay for a masocuck so he gets all fired up and ready to fuck and/or bust.
>your tiny dick isn't even worth jacking off
can be arousing for some, but you can definitely crank it up with the context and I'm talking about
>eat this freshly creampied pussy, slave. I want it clean and ready to get filled by your cum next
>look at this load I'm about to swallow, I'm giving you 5 seconds to decide, either you make out with me right now or I swallow and I'm going to the other room with him
>in a circlejerk situation, the wife says 'work those arms hubby! if you can make jamal-kun cum first I'll fuck you good'

>>8682868
I like verbal humiliation. Even if it's really mean I like it. I hate physical humiliation. All forms of it (feminization, chastity cage, etc), it ruins it completely for me. The most I can accept is having the hands tied, but only if the girl is jerking the cuck off.

>>8682869
I like fake NTR. Where the girl teases you and acts like she's about to get stolen, but after you cum she tells you it was all pretend and she loves you the most no matter what.

>>8682889
yeah, that fake ntr stuff is so good

>>8682868
It should always come from the girl. If it comes from the guy it flirts too much with the gay shit that a lot of NTS has gotten muddied with, due to faggots who don't really care about cuckoldry just wanting an excuse to suck dick. Some NTS/NTR artists nowadays just make straight up gay porn. The girl is just a vehicle for the cuck to suck dick and take it up the ass. It's really disappointing to see the fetish get co-opted like this.

NTS sex with NTR teasing into cleanup into smug cuckold reporting into violent lover's sex. (All parts are equally important)

>>8682890
>>8682889
>fake NTR
That's just NTS.

>>8682899
>>8682896
No. Not all NTS requires NTR teasing

>>8682892
That literally never happens in any of the NTS that gets posted here. Unless you're the type of retard who thinks cum snowball kisses and eating creampie is the same as sucking dick.

>>8682901
Sure I get that, but it's what we like.

>>8682901

>>8682868
Personally hate it. I don't get off on those feelings of inferiority and emasculation.

>>8682896
>>8682901
>>8682904
marin looks so beautiful

>>8682904
>>8682903
>>8682908
I don't know who "we" is since there are many autists with different tastes here but I approve of it!
>>8682902
It only happens in western/aco stuff. A lot of these f95 are gay as fuck. And no, creampie eating is the straightest thing a cuckold does before he impregnates the wife herself!

>>8682902
No shit we don't post literal gay porn?

>>8682909
It's mostly western but I've seen some Japanese artist flirting with going the same direction too. I saw a Japanese guy making a post saying something like "When I studied cuckoldry (as someone from the outside), I was surprised by how many people were excited by it for bisexual reasons.". Probably because he always have homos in his replies asking him to make the cuck suck the bull's dick.

>>8682922
which artists? I feel like this is a rare subsection of stuff made, either NTS or NTR. Although my default is to ignore stuff I don't like so I could just be avoiding it.

Why is there no Chub.ai charchter for Chika from Atheletic couple

>>8682934
The guy who wrote that specific post was saiaku_devil iirc

>>8680109
The problem with that game is that the gameplay is fucking shit, I really hated it.

+81-090-5956-7220 wanna Japanese bitch?

>>8682450
>okay I tried this broken sky game and there is currently like, negative content at the moment, also it's filled with really really bad looking ai slop placeholders?
Did you unlock all scenes in the gallery? There several vanilla scenes there and a couple of very nice netorase scenes. As for the placeholders, they are only used on empty areas that don't have any content right now; it's more natural than the game simply telling you you are not allowed to go there.
>oh, and the furry creator's OC character is the only one in the game whose sprite is animated because....?
The dev wanted to convert all sprites to Live2D and started with the self-insert character. However, it took way too fucking long and was stealing time away from the rest of development, so that's in the backburner for now.
>Also 5 seconds in you are preached to about the dev saying "Dont skip the dialogue bro, this isn't JUST a porn game"
Wouldn't you feel bad if you took the time to develop an elaborate cyberpunk story and people skipped ahead to the porn?

>>8682961
no, I wouldnt feel bad because ultimately I'm making a porn game
I did unlock all the gallery scenes. What is there is very barebones.

>>8682939
Just make one yourself

>>8682991
Don't have the expertise

>>8682994
I wouldn't exactly call it an "expertise"

>>8682996
But i can't clearly give it a prompt with a story right. If nor i would lose immersion

>>8683001
You can give it a prompt with a story (the biggest issue is that chatbots aren't that good at pacing said story if you aren't tardwrangling it) but I can see how it doesn't feel as good if you've preplanned everything beforehand

>>8683008
Im thinking it being more like the chatbot picks where the doujin story ended

So i can ask her what exactly happend in depth like when the battery ran out

>>8683011
In that case you can put the doujin story in the prompt (usually the scenario field or some lorebook entries) and have the roleplay start with where the doujin ends. The chatbot should fill in the blanks based on your input (though quality will vary without you holding its hand)

>>8683016
Have to write the entire doujin down with every miniscule detail

>>8683019
Ask another AI to meticulously narrate the doujin, duh.

>>8683020
It can't read the doujin due to copyright i don't have a local llm. Guess i have to write down everything. Any advice ?

>>8682868
I draw the line at bull impreg and ATM pussyfree bs (denial is hot, but it loses all meaning if it's perpetual). pretty much everything else is fair game, although I prefer for the humiliation to get more intense with time and not go 0-100 in a span of two updates

>>8683022
Write down the important (to you) details in bullet point form and in chronological order. You don't need any writing skills since the LLM will be doing the actual writing in response anyway. Focus on what you think is important so that when the LLM inevitably fills in the blanks it won't ruin your immersion for going against said important points. Don't use AI to summarise the story because ChatGPT-ism is bad enough as is, feeding it more AI-generated slop is only going to make it worse in that regard

>>8681624
They are the same person it's just you don't see them encounter chad or whoever they decide to cheat with. This taints the perspective that they're loyal when in reality they just haven't been put into the right situation to cheat yet.

>https://files.catbox.moe/vo7mbs.webm
My wives are deeply in love with me, which is exactly why they cuckold me with care, always making sure I'm pampered like a king

I want to rescue this poor fucking guy.

>>8683160
I'm so sick of people trying to pretend this is anything but hardcore NTR. She doesn't give a shit about him. Genuinely he could die on the street and she would piss on his grave with a smile if her bull told her to. Probably after cackling about how good it feels to get raw dogged by the bull on top of his gravestone too. Fuck this series.

>>8683160
This isn't NTS, the author just realized he could maneuver his shitty NTR series into stockholm syndrome NTS. At least it gives me hope twintails will stay NTS because he can just dump his bad ideas into this girl.

>>8683160
>>8683162
>>8683166
the fact that people still consider Kaya to be NTS except in the most technical of circumstances fucking baffles me

>>8683162
>>8683166
>>8683240
> the most technical of circumstances
It's so funny that this whole discussion is only possible because you people are straight up too stupid to reason yourself out of it
The definition of Netorase is extremely simple, it just means "To let someone steal" aka cheating with consent, there is no valid semantic side to the discussion

What's left is a discussion about ontology
Except that this already solved, porn is tagged based on framing rather than literals (e.g: anal tag is possible with slime girls despite them not having an ass or the yuri tag in futa works) as such any work where somebody consents to their partner cheating is NTS
Kaya is NTS and if you want to argue about it it will be more productive to discuss changing how porn is tagged

>>8683273
>The definition of Netorase is extremely simple, it just means "To let someone steal" aka cheating with consent, there is no valid semantic side to the discussion
Don't even bother, one moment they post "Kaya is only NTS in the most technical sense" the next they'll post "I don't give a shit about definitions, it's fucking NTR". Bunch of insecure fucking vanillafags this lot.

>>8683273
>there is no valid semantic side to the discussion
I feel like "intent" (for lack of a better term) is HUGELY important in a fetish like this, but I'm also not interested in reading or having this argument for the hundredth time

What if i'm into NTS but i hate chastity cage and naggers

>>8675795
this artist is SO good. extremely kinky but he never takes himself too seriously. this is what netorase should be about. takes for sharing

so, umhhhh, any fan of Panty & Stocking?

>>8683329
Yeah but that brings us back to trying to fit a square peg into the round hole
Honestly the only solution is to start using a new term, something like "Koitorase" (Doesn't make much sense in Japanese though) whose categorization works like masochism or femdom, defined by "vibe" rather than action like it's the case with NTS
The people arguing essentially already created their own headcannon term, this discussion is only a thing because they are too stupid to realize that is what they are doing and as a result they are confusing this new term with the existing netorase one

>>8683355
This idea has been floated here before, and I would actually flip the question to those who enjoy hardcore/humiliation/masocuck NTS. Why wouldn't you just hang out in the NTR general? If you're so smart and so fluent in Japanese that you have these etymological knowledge bullshit about how NTS is just a subgenre of NTR, why not go there instead? Clearly you have no problem existing in the same space, so why not just leave the pure love/non-maso/stagchads here?

>>8683366
Because this is the NTS general and I'm into NTS?
If you don't enjoy NTS and only like a specific aspect of the genre you're free to create your own thread with other like minded people and gatekeep as much as you want

Please think a second before you hit "submit", you're asking me to go into the NTR general and start calling all NTR works where the cuck doesn't consent not "true NTR" and that NTR only encompasses the exact works i personally enjoy?
Doesn't that sound insane to you? Does it sound familiar?
Like it's okay to call people out when they actually post non-NTS works where the cuck doesn't consent but nobody enjoys your Robespierre larp

>how NTS is just a subgenre of NTR, why not go there instead? Clearly you have no problem existing in the same space
You never learned about rectangles vs squares? Isn't that like a third-grade thing?

has anyone listened to RJ01413726 or RJ01238244 here?

>>8682868
I like extreme humiliation but only from the girl, if the bull gets involved then it starts to become a thing for latent homosexuals

>>8682868
I'm at like a 2 here. Some teasing and size comparison can be hot, but it can go way too far way too fast

>>8683273
It wasn't cheating with consent? She cheated on him behind his back and after cheating a billion times said to him either become my pet wallet or walk out of my life. They're not even dating anymore. She's using him as a toy for her actual boyfriend. And yes she did use the term "real boyfriend" for the bull. It's not even really cheating anymore. She's just fucking her actual boyfriend while making her ex miserable because it turns her and her boyfriend on.

>>8683405
im kinda bisexual so all the extreme stuff is pretty hot but i also think that the bull needs to shut the fuck up and just enjoy the fucking.

>>8683415
The previous Kaya entries are 100% NTR, the cuck doesn't enjoy it and it's framed as such, this last one is NTS but it's indeed an edge case
I would agree that it's similar to rape, that can be framed as the girl enjoying it and being fully into it but it would still count as rape
This latest Kaya has the cuck saying/acting as if he isn't enjoying it but it's 100% framed trough an NTS lens, i mean the bull barely is even in the thing with Kaya and her boyfriend taking up all the focus
I'd argue it's consensual but it's close enough to the edge where i can understand your disagreement

One question i would like to ask is your opinion on the framing of this last one, it's fully focused on their relationship, like i said the bull isn't really even involved so for me that's what NTS is all about, is it really just too heavy on the maso/teasing elements for you to enjoy? Or do you actually interpret the work as being focused on the girl getting stolen and doesn't at all overlap with NTS?

>>8683435
I'm not that guy, but it honestly feels like stockholm syndrome.

>>8683435
I'm pretty masochistic. I like teasing and humiliation a lot. I just need there to be an at least somewhat loving relationship between the cuck and the girl for me to enjoy it. I don't think Kaya has a relationship with Yousuke at all. I think she uses him as a sex toy for her bull. And I don't think that changed just because he got mindbroken and is now content begging for scraps (literally just the ability to jerk off). It's not the teasing or masochism. I like those aspects a lot. It's Kaya's complete and utter lack of care for Yousuke that makes the series shit to me.

>>8683435
If a story is 90% NTR, with a splash of soft NTS at the end, it's just NTR.

>>8679153
I wish my gf would have sex with a nigger. I would raise her little niglets like my own.

>>8683447
As soon as I read that she leaked her sex tape to her boyfriend, making him fail his exam and drop out of university - I thought she'd make better fertilizer than a human being.

What do you think of impregnation in netorase context?
I feel it's too dumb to make the rest of the story believable

>>8683598
what do you mean by it's too dumb?

>>8683600
for me, netorase is just sexplay. you can do all the humiliation you want but once playtime is over you're just a normal couple. what's your mindset once the horny is over and you find that your soulmate is bearing the child of a perfect stranger?

>>8683609
oh ok. i'm the same, nts is just sexplay and humiliation. i don't like bull impreg

>>8683609
I mean it's just a fantasy. You almost never see the child actually being born. Just the wife being pregnant. It does require you to suspend your beliefs a bit, but that's how I feel about cuckoldry in general. I wouldn't find it exciting having to deal with the consequences of my partner cheating on me consensually or non-consensually in real life either. I treat this whole fetish as something I only like in my head as a fantasy, but never in a million years something I'd actually want to do for real. I feel the same about bull impreg. Fantasy = hot. Real life = vomit inducing.

>>8683598
It's fine if used at the end of a story if you want to push the escalation to the absolute max
It's just too extreme to really work in an NTS context otherwise
Outside of that i really like it when it's teased but then it's revealed it's actually the husband's child, although i don't remember a work where that ever happens? I guess Tsubame is the closest

>>8683598
Bull impregnation is based as long as it doesn't result in a child being born

>>8683040
Does this hold for the player character too? If you're playing a video game where you can make choices that make you an asshole, but you don't make those choices, is the character you're playing as an asshole? This is nonsensical to me. The storyline of the game is written down as you play it, if you avoid the routes where she cheats, she's not a cheater. That's why you'd play through games multiple times, you experience a different story with different characters.

>>8683598
Pure kino. Bull impregnation is the "and they lived happily ever after" of netorase stories. However, it's very controversial, so if you are writing a VN it should always be optional, along with other extreme NTS fetishes like cum cleanup.

>>8683630
I really wish more works covered the infant being born and the couple raising the bull's baby. Maybe even an epilogue set ten or twenty years later to show how things turned out. The NTS gf could have bloomed into a full-blown MILF hotwife, still seducing young studs for her man's pleasure. The boyfriend, meanwhile, has matured into a hard-working salary man who supports his wife and "his" child with his efforts. And the kid? He is blissfully unaware of anything, but he has a great life and fully loves his mama and "papa".

>>8683435

>>8683748
Kaya would have been a lot better if this fan caption was actually true, but it's pretty clear she doesn't love Yousuke in the slightest. The racially insensitive part is just the nature of BBC NTR. It's all the same "ooga booga faceless big ass muscles for body black man with 12 inch dick fucks white/asian girl better than 2 inch white/asian guy". Nobody wants to see the faceless black man and the heroine actually dating and acting normal, even if it's implied they're doing as much. The readers just want to jerk off to the feeling of being genetically inferior. You can't use rationality to dissect something as irrational as not only BBC NTR porn, but just cuckoldry as a whole. It's a completely irrational fetish. Most extreme fetishes are.

>>8680535
3 protagonist's personalities and 4 wife's personalities? the scope of this game just seems too much from what i was reading, so i don't expect it to ever get finished, or be disappointing all around, because it's impossible to satisfy everyone that enjoys this genre.

>>8683795
Many such cases. Which is a shame too, since I love the idea of it.

>>8683796
Yes, this happens all the time. Dev bites off more than he can chew, updates slow to a crawl, the game dies for lack of support. Real artists ship.

But damn it, I really want this game to succeed. I teared up when I reached the end of the demo and the theme started playing.

https://files.catbox.moe/8yymot.mp3

>>8683598
Normally not something I'd be okay with. And yet despite this, two of my favorite NTS stories actually feature it, which is surprising.

In general, I think it's a bit too far, but with the right setup and personalities, it's not a instant deal breaker.

>>8683334
Then you're a racist kek

>>8683808
Do they even have an artist? Last I saw they were plagiarizing ANIM sprites.

>>8683598
Only good if they abort the child and kill the bull. If the wife doesn't wanna abort, she gets killed too.

>>8683814
i'm fine with being a racist

>>8683817
Poor cuck got traumatised seeing his mum getting blacked all the time...

>>8683827
what?

>>8683830
And now you turned out to be a virgin cuckold. She might let you watch next time

>>8683833
not nts then but ok...

>>8683834
Uh oh virgin cuckold makes up headcanons if he can't suck white cocks!

>>8681490
Hey that's pretty good. I wonder why it's so hard to find. Doesn't help that the authors label it as NTR even though it's NTS. I wish Japanese authors would label their shit properly. Makes NTS way needlessly hard to find.

>>8683815
>Last I saw they were plagiarizing ANIM sprites.
Pretty much.

>>8683847
So basically if one wants play a hot looking 2d netorase game from non-japanese, it's either vulgar reverie or bust? i just get the impression most shit in development rn is aislop or other off-putting 3d gobbo varieties.
Ah, there was this other game i saw recently called "from wife to wench", it reminded me of "adelaide inn", pic related is the art tho lol.

>>8683815
Yup it's AI that got feed with ANIM sprites

>>8683827
I'm more traumatised by how fast BBC bullshit pushed by americans and blacked in porn back in the days flooded the hentai/2D market so fast because of westerners, it's even more shocking when you know that most japanese never met a nagger in their life. But keep ruining every NTR/NTS thread with your fetish, it's not as if you already have a QoS thread on /h/ which is one of the most active thread on this shit dead board kek

cry about it, /pol/faggot

>>8684027
suck my cock brainwashed retard

This is the worst goddamn general on the board. We spend more time arguing about NTS than we do posting porn.

>>8684339
yeah, weird since i assumed that nts would be pretty simple to define when i first got into it. and the fact that this is the only nts general, though trash would have one but oh well

>>8684342
Simple, haha. Sadly not. It hinges highly on consent, and people have wildly different definitions of that. And, unlike other fetishes, there's masochistic and non-masochistic variants of it that look completely different from each other and are entirely incompatible. To make matters worse, Japanese artists market it the same as NTR, which further blurs the lines and makes things harder to pin down.

>>8683160
kaya treats her cuck like a pet, not a boyfriend. which is what classifies it as ntr for me

>>8684342
It's too polisemic since the concept envelops many things. It could be hard maso bbc cuckcage porn or "my girlfriend is a slut that loves me" "vanilla" cheating. The ntr big tent allows for any of those (which is why that thread is more popular) while the nts that each of us likes is slightly different

>>8683731
The player character is YOU so yes it does hold. It's like undertale. You're a good person if you play pacifist but you're a bad person if you play pacifist and genocide even if you're on the pacifist route.

>>8684339
The is very little NTS content in general even ignoring the fags who complain about something not being "real NTS" just because they're not into it personally.

>>8684339
Thats a hot *disgusted reaction* face, almost like her partner asked her to do NTS.

>>8684015
>third world cuckold also included NTR
>thinks anyone would care about an NTRnigger's opinion
Stay poor, kek

Honestly this thread would be way better if it were just /cuckoldry/ or something instead of /NTS/. Half of the reason people argue in here is due to autistic definition vs application bullshit. If it was just an umbrella thread for all types of cuckoldry then we wouldn't have that, we could just have people say they don't like that specific type. Unfortunately we're on /h/ and supposedly oriented around anime, so I don't think the brand change would go over very well.

>>8684610
"Cuckoldry" is both NTS and NTR dumbass.

>>8684617
Then name is "consensual cuckoldry" or something? Not that hard to find a better term. Or hell, just do what /d/ does and say "cuckoldry (no NTR)" or whatever. Not that hard. I realize acting like a combative retard is more satisfying since my suggestion is a pipe dream anyway, but your score card is just as ephemeral.

>>8684627
>Then name is "consensual cuckoldry"
So... NTS then? the problem never was the name but where people set their limit.

>>8682174
The nts phone game "Netorase Phone" by the legendary Le Stag is the gold standard. If you want a slow burn that actually develops the characters slowly and realisitcally. Other games get to the sex too fast and its not nearly as satisfying. Great community on discord too.

>>8684648
>Another netorase Ren'Py stock "phone game" template with unedited AI slop art
There are legit like 50 billion of these games WTF
I'm already regretting my pivot, at this point maybe i should make a 2D game instead of a VN, i have enough art assets for it but I'm missing good sprites for the custom characters since i can't use RPG Maker ones due to their "fuck-you" license
It at least would mean i could still use the phone-UI I'm making

>>8684648
netorase phone sucks and so does the art

>>8684659
>8k/month on Patreon
I just don't understand how this works, outside of furry games it's literally just worse game => more money?

>>8684664
The game DEVIVERS, and that's what matters. He is the only NTS dev that consistently releases content on a reasonable schedule, except maybe Indecent Wife Hana and Secret Care Cafe. Everyone else has a mental health crisis, or their computer breaks down, or they get a bug up their ass about how they need to restart the game from scratch, or they work for five months to publish an updated with five minutes of gameplay.

With a starved niche like netorase, that's all it takes. In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

>>8684667
Go back to bed le Stag

>>8684667
idk Nyatorase has been releasing consistently every month
also netorase phone constantly delivers SHIT so there's a difference

>>8684667
>no animations
>no choices
>zero interactivity, it's just a text scroller
>written by chatGPT
>dogshit UI
Yeah no shit he delivers, all he does is spend 20 minutes prompting, he doesn't even know about custom loras and instead uses some free web browser art generator
I'm also pretty sure that he is using a store bought asset for the dialogue implementation

>>8684339
I like black men so this place is heaven for me

>>8684751
but there's other blacked threads on trash that are more active than this one?

>>8684755
There's even a blacked thread right here on /h/.

>>8684756
Yeah, its right here >>8675259 (OP)

>>8684757
but actually why not those places

>>8684751
>I like black men
lol

>>8684758
Because this place has straight-up cuckoldry. How hard is it to understand?

>>8683853
I just played that, the art is a bit rough but the writing is great. Also has sph/spe.
A recommend from me

>>8684755
Do you think it's no longer NTS if the bull is black? I'm not even into raceplay but I feel like I don't even know what people in this thread are actually complaining about sometimes.

>>8685013
Yes, he does think that. You can either ignore him, but I recommend posting black bulls instead. He'll seethe and probably commit seppuku kek

>>8683342
This a real screenshot?

>>8685013
no i don't think that. i really don't care what color the dick is since i only care about the girl. i don't even know why >>8685043 is trying to start shit.

>>8684796
but you said that you just love black men, why not just go to those threads then? or the ntr threads instead, you didn't specify nts so you probably like both

Anyone know the progress of Bokudaka 2 translation/where to download MTL? Ryuu only has moon runes.

Pic not related.

>>8685093
hot pic

>>8685093
What a thick, delicious qos whore. Would greedily eat her creampied pussy and then creampie her myself!

>>8683160
sauce?

>>8685093
Progress?
It's a VN you can just translate it directly

Really love the astroturf that's all over these threads. The payment processors really scared these idiots, causing them to come out of their goon cave to shill their shovelware.

https://f95zone.to/threads/my-girlfriend-wants-a-threesome-i-just-hope-its-with-me-v2-0-cuckold-route-sieglinnde.258069/

cuckold path is out, so far so good

>>8685093
>sauce?
it's finished but no one's leaked it yet

Looks hot

>>8685407
>western 3d
>bimbo looking girls
>esl
holy trinity of blacked NTS

>>8685407
The writing sucks, and the GF has arguably the worst model/design out of all the other girls in the game. This is, of course, ignoring the usual WEG bimbo goblina complaints.

>>8685419
Sauce pls?

>>8685013
it's distracting honestly
I don't give a shit about this aspect at all so any time a doujin focuses on this it just misses the point. it's an entirely different fetish

>>8686126
[Poriuretan] Niizuma no Koharu, Netorase [Digital]

>>8686351
you fucking rock anon, thank you

>>8686351
Are there any works with BBC in it?

>>8686351
I can't believe Poriuretan makes a name for themselves drawing short, fairly vanilla 4-8 page porn comics for years, and when they finally sit down and pen a long, full doujin, it's NTR. Even if it's technically under the umbrella of NTS.

I'm worried that this things gonna do TOO well and this is all they'll ever make going forward. Granted, I always did think their artstyle was very "NTR coded."

>>8686435
it's quintessential NTS
t. can read moonrunes

Chat gpt5 is great for NTS. I'm feasting on Jane's whore body and reclaiming her with passionate vanilla sex after she thoroughly humiliated with lots of cheating BBC sex!

I want to clarify that I don't hate BBC or whatever, but so many BBC NTS stories end with the girl becoming "slaves to BBC", while the the 1 inch cuck gets left in the dust for being so pathetic or whatever. And the girls almost always become disgusted and lose almost all -- if not all of their love for the cuck and/or start love the black bull(s) way more. That's my main gripe with BBC NTS. It's almost always BBC first and NTS as merely an afterthought. I'm aware there are rare exceptions. There's one guy in this general who AI generates great BBC NTS where the girl never loses their love for the cuck, but I swear 90% of BBC NTS goes like that. I assume it's because the whole BNWO fetish shit sort of demands that the girl starts loving and worshipping blacks and hating paleskins. I think that sort of extreme BBC shit simply isn't compatible with NTS imo.

>>8686552
You're talking about BNWO NTR. Something totally different to BBC NTS. In the latter, the bull is literally a living dildo. The wife may enjoy having sex with it, and humiliate her hubby while she does it, but she always remains in love with her cuck. The chances of her getting stolen are close to zero. While in the former, it praises the superiority of one race and praying upon the annihilation of the other. I wholeheartedly agree that that shit is terrible, and it's unfortunate artists mix those two (most often unknowingly) together.

>>8686557
I mean it's arguing defenitions. I think a lot of the artists consider it NTS even though they drawing the girl abandoning the cuck due to his "inferiority". Simply because he got hard to it. It's also tagged as such and it's most of what I see when I try to look up NTS with BBC in it. Feels more like something aimed at people into the whole BNWO shit on twitter than actual fans of NTS. But that's a problem with NTS in general. People want to combine it with all kinds of degrading fetish shit. BBC is just the most common one. The unholy trinity of NTS is like forced bi BBC NTS. Where 90% of the story is just the black bull fucking the chastity cage'd cuck in the ass.

>>8686552
>And the girls almost always become disgusted and lose almost all -- if not all of their love for the cuck and/or start love the black bull(s) way more.
Can you post some examples? I mean worshipping BBC is basically the whole point of the sexplay and unless you're reading NTR it's not really supposed to go outside the bedroom.

>>8686563
I have barely encountered bisexual BNWO NTR while browsing for NTS content. You really need to look for it specifically to find that shit. Not to mention it's always western stuff. I guess the algorithm figured out what my dick likes. Though I do agree the amount of vanilla bbc nts is tiny compared to the bnwo shit.

>>8686564
Sure. For example on fan. Every single one of his works, no matter what, even if the girl is jerking the cuck off to her sex tape, ends with the girl loving the black bull more. He even started using like "love indicators" from the games to explicilty show how the girl loves the bull more than their cuck husband now. In general I think this whole "slave to BBC" thing is something you see a lot from AI creators. Also the Chinese ones. The Chinese really buy into the whole BNWO shit.

>>8686567
I'm not saying I see forced bi stuff a lot. It's just some of the worst "NTS" things I've seen ever so rarely. I also really like "vanilla" BBC NTS. Big fan of the guy you posted. But yeah, it's far too rare in an ocean full of BNWO shit.

>>8686524
How do you jailbreak It?

>>8686659
You don't need to. It works if you tell it you're a erotic novel artist needing help for explicit scenes. There's also some in-depth messages that will unlock the nsfw mode if you google for it. It might cuck you after some messages when it downgrades to the free model. In that case, you could either use an new account or get chat gpt plus (I use it for many more things, so I just paid for it. My Google Play account is Japan based so I got a discount too)

>>8686557
Source on the image?

>>8686766
The source is that he made it up.

>>8686767
Then he should post more. It's great.

>>8679153
artist?

>>8684679
1. Animations have been added in some of the recent updates
2. There are plenty of choices, with 5 different dialogue routes spanning Submissive cuck to Confident Stag
3. See point 2, but also phone text scroller is literally the genre of the game...
4. It's not written by ChatGPT and the story is realistic and very well done.
5. The UI is better than most games of this type.

The format of the game is a texting simulator, so you cant go in expecting some kind of AAA title, but for what it is, within its own genre, it stands out as an exemplary example.

>>8687308
kys le stag your game fucking sucks and so does the art

>>8687308
>There are plenty of choices, with 5 different dialogue routes spanning Submissive cuck to Confident Stag
Ah yes the choice to have the same content but with a red message calling you a cuck once in a blue moon and sometimes skipping scenes because you don't like a thing making a new update comically short.
Really meaningful choices right there.
Sarcasm aside i can understand not giving players a complete control but it really should be called text flavor rather than "choices"

>>8687308
It's just plain boring. I can't exactly identify the issue, but for an erotic game it's just not very erotic.

>>8687207
https://exhentai.org/g/3399509/b30c0abf5b/

>>8679153
seems like this would be ntr though

>>8687385
it is