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Anonymous No.17895424 [Report] >>17895431 >>17895439 >>17895454 >>17895467 >>17895474 >>17895483 >>17895621 >>17895687 >>17895922 >>17895948 >>17896318 >>17896382 >>17897610
How did ancient cultures coped without desserts? They had no chocolate, no sugar, no ice cream. Just plain bread and veggies and no fats. I had never considered what life would be like without dessert.
Anonymous No.17895431 [Report] >>17895602
>>17895424 (OP)
>They had no chocolate
Some of them did. Where do you think it comes from?
>no sugar
See above. Also: honey. Fruits.
>no ice cream
True with caveats. But there are many other kinds of deserts.
Anonymous No.17895439 [Report] >>17895442
>>17895424 (OP)
They did. Honey and fruits were used everywhere as sweeteners. Dates were a favourite across the Near East and eaten by nearly everyone both dried and fresh. The wealthier of society had greater options like with sweet sauces, we even know some rulers in Mesopotamia and Syria had ice rooms so they could have frozen drinks and desserts all year.
Anonymous No.17895442 [Report] >>17895450 >>17895468 >>17895483 >>17896318 >>17896320
>>17895439
Where did they get ice in Mesopotamia?
Anonymous No.17895450 [Report] >>17896320
>>17895442
I'm not aware of any letters which talk about procurement but it's likely they got packed ice delivered from around the Caucuses and Zagros. Usually what they'd do when transporting packed ice, at least later on was covering it in straw completely and keeping it in shade. As long as it isn't exposed to the sun the ice can keep itself cool when you have very large quantities of it for long periods.
Anonymous No.17895454 [Report]
>>17895424 (OP)
>Just plain bread and veggies and no fats.

/his/torian moment
Anonymous No.17895467 [Report] >>17895484 >>17896387
>>17895424 (OP)
You fool!
You absolute buffoon!
You dimwitted simpleton!

The fact that ancient people had no access to sugar is why their tastebuds are completely sensitive to the natural sugars found in fruits and vegetables
Many people today who curbed out their sugar intake noted how their tastebuds reached sensitivity levels that are so high, chewing on carrots makes them feel so giddy. God forbid they drink soda as that would burn them like ye olden days

It is the modern man who is in the pathetic state of never knowing the true taste of food
Anonymous No.17895468 [Report] >>17895483 >>17895967 >>17896318 >>17896434
>>17895442
The middle east used to be much more humid with snowy winters. Even the bible testifies for it
Anonymous No.17895474 [Report]
>>17895424 (OP)
By eating fruits and honey
Anonymous No.17895483 [Report]
>>17895424 (OP)
They have always been a thing. I recall watching a video of a tribe of African bushmen who had different methods of flushing out a beehive to get the honey.
>>17895442
They built large deep underground storage tunnels fitted with pipes to store ice that was brought from elsewhere. The heat rises so it isn't a problem in the deep soil, which was usually taken from softer ground. Think of how cold sod gets in the winter. Some places used wood shavings as insulation.
>>17895468
Ignore this christcuck.
Anonymous No.17895484 [Report]
>>17895467
cute and good post
Anonymous No.17895602 [Report]
>>17895431
Yup, I prefer to eat fruit, bananas & oranges are my favorite which is healthy

things like candy & pastries & cake is unhealthy

Dates are delicious, they grow lots of dates near Yuma Az and every time I am there I always buy a few pounds of dates
Anonymous No.17895621 [Report]
>>17895424 (OP)
For some people even bread was a luxury, at the end of the day they just got on with it. Having a tough, tedious life makes dying much easier to cope with, compared to the present where we get to experience just how good things can be
Anonymous No.17895687 [Report]
>>17895424 (OP)
I live like this willingly . Try cutting excess sugars from your diet for a month. They are made so you will get addicted and keep Craving more and more. But once it’s out of your system you realise how unnecessary it is.
Gangetic Belt Kshatriya No.17895922 [Report]
>>17895424 (OP)
We had milk kheer, sweet dishes of curd and plethora of khoya sweets. For sugar, we had sugarcane and honey.
Anonymous No.17895948 [Report] >>17896471
>>17895424 (OP)
lol I love how delusional people are about how "backwards" ancient people were.

Ancient Romans had ice cream. Roman patricians ordered snow and ice from the mountains up north. They were transported in vases that were isolated, their caravans only travelled at night and rested in deep caverns/basements during the days. Then the ice/snow was stored in the basement, which was later used to make refreshing ice cold beverages and ice cream (just not dairy based)

They also had a cheesecake that was covered in honey called Libum
Anonymous No.17895967 [Report]
>>17895468
The northern parts of Iran have snow and ice even now
Anonymous No.17896000 [Report] >>17896206
They had sweet things. Malted barley was the most common source of sugars and could be reduced to a syrup and substitute honey in recipes, but more typically peasants baked the ground malt into barley cakes analogous to cookies.
Anonymous No.17896206 [Report]
>>17896000
Thats what I hate about grocery stores in the USA is they dont stock Barley Malt, no Vegemite neither
Anonymous No.17896297 [Report]
They literally did have sweets, retarded nigger. Dates were among the most common.
Anonymous No.17896318 [Report]
>>17895424 (OP)
Fruits
Honey
>>17895442
Mountains and Winters
>>17895468
Still is
Anonymous No.17896320 [Report]
>>17895442
>>17895450
the pre-industrial ice trade was so cool. Just before the invention of mechanical refrigeration there were massive ice operations that harvested ice off the lakes in New England and then shipped it on insulated clipper ships all around the world
Anonymous No.17896382 [Report]
>>17895424 (OP)
Ice cream and whipped cream have been known since millennia and they only need some ripe fruit to be very sweet. Pancakes made from _white flour_ are incredibly sweet as well in fact - with no additional sugar. If you top all his with honey you have fantastic, sweet deserts with much richer taste than just some (lol) sugar (kek).
Anonymous No.17896387 [Report]
>>17895467
Carrot cake is a thing. It's very sweet on its own without additional sweeteners (you may add raisins or apricots tho).
Anonymous No.17896434 [Report] >>17896456 >>17896546
>>17895468
>Levant before Islam
Lush, green paradise full of life
>Levant after Islam
A miserable brown wasteland
Anonymous No.17896456 [Report]
>>17896434
Lmao retard
Process happened naturally
Anonymous No.17896471 [Report]
>>17895948
ice cream is dairy based. are you talking about sorbet.
Anonymous No.17896546 [Report]
>>17896434
It was gradually becoming a desert shithole since at least the egyptian proto-kingdoms. Indeed Egypt was likely kickstarted by the crowded folk of proto-historical tribes that joined together around the Nile as everywhere else around lakes and rivers were drying out
Anonymous No.17897370 [Report]
Apparently, Persian meals were full of desserts, according to accounts by the Ancient Greeks. Also, Indians have been munching on sugar since before Christ.
Anonymous No.17897610 [Report]
>>17895424 (OP)

I can't for the fuck of me find it, but they unearthed a caveman from Northern Africa and he had died because he had eaten so much honey that all of his teeth rotted away, the rot became impacted, and it infected his jaw, traveled up his bones, and ate a thumb-sized hole in his skull.

Anyway,
>How did ancient cultures coped without desserts?

They still had sources of sweetness: honey, maple syrup, birch syrup, fresh and dried fruits (when they were in season a lot of people would just sit and eat figs, dates, apples, and berries all fucking *day). A lot of "table ales" or everyday low-alcoholic content beverages were pleasantly sweet from the fermentation process making the sugar available, like that drink where you chew up corn or banana mush, spit it into a clay vase, and let it ferment.
White people don't eat them anymore, but Asian old-world beans produce a mild sweetness: boiled, mashed, mixed with some kind of fat, and then baked into a confection or used as a filler. Other vegetables like yams, beets, turnips, sweet potatoes, purple yams, cassava, have sweet varieties. Any really starchy root vegetable has/can potentially be bred into a variety that turns more of that starch into sugar, that can be used for cakes.

*My mother grew up in a subsistence agricultural family and she ate so many gooseberries, blackberries, juniper berries, crab-apples, saskatoons, etc.. That she gets nauseous whenever she's exposed to them.