Italian fascism lacks what is now considered the most defining characteristic of fascism. Obsession with racial purity and paranoid hatred of conspiratorial minorities.

>>17899137 (OP)
The commonality is nationalism, but for the Italians it was ethnic while for the Germans it was racial.

But if we're being honest, everyone is racist except white liberals who hate their own people.

>>17899141
Ironic.
Italians are way more ethnically diverse than Germans yet their nationalism was alot more inclusive than German.

>>17899137 (OP)
Germans are paranoid and insular by nature. Italians have always been the center of the Mediterranean cultural exchange. It is only natural that these aspects of their characters would surface in their respective ideologies.
>what is now considered
Who cares.

yeah, they mostly wrote about it while germany actually used it in practice

>>17899153
>Italians are way more ethnically diverse
You mean racially? Ethnically they're all Italian and even the Tyrolians didn't put up much of a fight.

>>17899168
Yeah sure.

>>17899137 (OP)
>Obsession with racial purity
For the Nazis it was really just about Germans, living space for Germans, Pan-Germanism, an attempt at answering the 19th Century "German Question" regarding why they could never form a unified Prussia-Austrian Empire etc
Yes, racism was also heavily involved, but said racism was directed towards anyone who they didn't deem was German or Aryan enough. Hitler had absolutely no issues invading France, or Denmark, or Norway, or the Netherlands, and completely fucking them over, because it wasn't actually about white people. The whole White Nationalist movement is an American invention

>>17899172
>Hitler had absolutely no issues invading France, or Denmark, or Norway, or the Netherlands
War isn't an evil thing to Aryans. You're very brown coded.

>>17899177
It's not an evil thing as long as your victims are brown countries you mean. Also what do you mean brown coded? Browns are always waring with eachother, it's like one of their defining characteristics. Hitler basically wanted to turn Europe into a white version of the Middle East

>>17899180
>victims
This is your problem: You think fighting a war implies hatred or malice. Post your obese brown claw for judgment.

>>17899180
>Hitler basically wanted to turn Europe into a white version of the Middle East
It was Churchill who declared war on Germany and turned Nuremberg into Gaza.

>>17899182
>You think fighting a war implies hatred or malice
Not always, but in Hitlers case it was. All throughout Mein Kampf he talks extensively about wanting revenge on his enemies, and this is reflected in a lot of German propaganda, the Vergeltungswaffen ("revenge weapons") etc

>>17899186
>It was Churchill who declared war on Germany
Why did he declare war on Germany anon?
Tell me anon, what specific event could possibly have lead to this?

>>17899188
Post claw Europhobe.
>All throughout Mein Kampf he talks extensively about wanting revenge on his enemies
I don't know why you're talking about MK about someone who has obviously read it. It's also very disingenuous, since he does talk about ethnic frictions and the recent history of Europe up to that point.
>Why did he declare war on Germany
Bloodlust. Same reason Britain declared war on Germany in WW1, which Churchill was also an aggressor in.

>>17899200
>Bloodlust
You seem to be very mentally slow so let me help you out
War was declared on Germany in response to their invasion of Poland, but that's besides the point
Germany invaded Poland why again? Oh yeah, because of PAN-GERMANISM
Thanks for playing you historically illiterate Stormtard

>>17899172
To be fair, the nazi attitude towards neighbouring nations and their plans for a post-war order did favour western europeans over non-europeans.

>War was declared on Germany in response to their invasion of Poland
So bloodlust. Imagine if every time Brits shot a tribe in Africa Germany said that they were going to get involved and that it's somehow critical to the German people. You'd be clawing the keyboard every day talking about what a shit casus belli that is. That's what this is. Except you even get that wrong because p*land bombed German radio towers and railways. Not to mention the oppression and eradication of the German people by a repressive, Germanophobic neo-Slavic state (which by that time had already not existed for over a century).

>>17899213
Are these “plans” in the room with us right now?

>>17899213
What do you mean?

>>17899218
>Moving the goalpost
Hitler invaded Poland over Pan-Germanist autism because Lebensraum wasn't about whites so much as it was about unifying the Germanic peoples
Hitler knew the consequences of invading Poland, it was no secret who they had a defensive pact with, unless you think Hitler was a retard and just didn't know, but I don't think that's the hill you want to die on.

>>17899221
Well, slavs were fated for outright slavery, as were nonwhites, with possible eventual extinction. Western europeans (and europeans allied to germany at some point) were meant to be controlled by germany in a political manner, but otherwise left alive. Maybe in a way similar to that in which the soviet union controlled the warsaw pact.

>>17899218
>>17899200
You
>War isn't always about malice or hatred and if you think otherwise you're brown
Also you
>Britain declaring war on Germany was an act of hatred and malice

It's sad how people have to argue with literal nazi apologists on this board.

>>17899224
>unless you think Hitler was a retard and just didn't know, but I don't think that's the hill you want to die on.
The logical conclusion to Hitler Apologism is that Hitler was indeed mentally retarded

>>Moving the goalpost
That doesn't even make sense. You're just not thinking clearly about what is being said here. You getting dunked on every reply hardly means goals are being moved- you're just a shit goalie defending a mile long set of posts.
>Hitler invaded Poland
You already messed up here after being corrected on this specific point. Again, p*land bombed German rail and radiot stations. p*land agitated against all of it's neighbors. You weren't even aware that p*land annexed part of Czechoslovakia too and therefore was an aggressive party from the very beginning. And when Germans are facing p*lish governmental oppression you just handwave it because a "liberal republic" is doing it. You're trash kid. I'm glad there are less people like you everyday. Scum of the Earth.
>*spits on the ground*

>>17899227
According to the Germans, the Slavs were Aryan too.
>>17899230
That's right. Germany's cause was righteous. Britain's cause was blind opportunism. Churchill himself was a sellout who wasn't even reelected or considered a hero.

>>17899235
>coming from the guy whose "people" didn't point any points in diplomacy and keep getting turned into a punching bag then exiled
Projection.

>>17899249
>"Jews control the government and the media and the banks!"
>"B-but us Goyim are s-still the master race we swear!"
lmao

>>17899246
>According to the Germans, the Slavs were Aryan too.
Funny how they still killed bunches of them.

>Jews control the government
Other way around. /pol/ shills have been spamming about how the FBI and CIA are secretly Nazis funding everyone from Jones to Fuentes. To loop back around- the leading theory today seems to be the opposite, that actually because the US isn't going to be giving Israel money anymore and take them off the nipple that Nazis run everything. Guess it was Aryans all along lol

>>17899137 (OP)
Prefacing my comment by saying that I am a leftist.
>what is now considered the most defining characteristic of fascism.
This is just because normies are retarded and don't read the things they talk about.

When midwits want to understand socialism they read socialists. When midwits want to understand fascism they read anti-fascists. There are very few genuine scholars on fascism and so the public has a very poor understanding of what it was to its adherents.

>>17899246
>According to the Germans, the Slavs were Aryan too.
Bullshit. Slavs were second only to Jews in terms of people that lived in Mustache Mans head rent free when he wrote Mein Kampf

>>17899256
They went to war, if that's what you mean. Union killed Confederates, does that mean that the south should keep rising up because the other states killed their people? You can't really apply your logic to any other given scenario in world history outside of this.

>>17899235
>live in world obsessed with identities and larp
>slap nazi identity on your shoulder as an edgy larp to own the libs
>hey maybe you're kind of a shitty person if that's your larp
>nooo, aktually hitler was a retard who built holiday camps for jews and liked blacks

>>17899137 (OP)

Why does this retarded thread about a Satanic ideology have so much activity?

>>17899260
This is a good answer for a very unserious thread. You're talking to head-in-the-butt liberalists who don't care to learn anything. They don't even have memes ffs.

>>17899257
Israel has become the New Nazis because they're basically a white ethnostate

>>17899262
Words of the Holy Father:
>"...I looked upon the defeat of the Russians as a blow to Austrian Slavism..."
So if Slav is supposed to be a race, then how come it's used ethnically and equally to Austrian here?

>>17899273
Fundamentally, every jew is struggling to be a Nazi and you don't have to go very deep to see that.

>>17899277
They unironically didn't know if Poles, or Magyars (which also somewhat included parts of Austria) were Slavs or Germans

>>17899285
That is incorrect, Magyars were already associated with Huns and the east through culture. Let us again see His words and discover that Slav is a language group:
>"...Several of those present did not speak German but only their Slav vernaculars or dialects."

Every time Hitler is brought up I'm just going to start quoting Scripture.

>>17899295
NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK

Italians are mixed. It just doesn't work.

>>17899306
The Greek is Aryan.

>>17899137 (OP)
>Obsession with racial purity
Obsession with purity is really just a very German thing.
https://youtu.be/c-Wtr5Bq710

>>17899137 (OP)
So they expected to do something besides hating on the racially divergent?

>>17899137 (OP)
Pretty sure they have pretty good reasons to be paranoid and it has nothing to do with insanity

There is no "Aryan" or "White" race, there are only Western Europeans, Southern Europeans, Eastern Europeans, and then transition races like Eurasians, Anatolians, and Levantines

>>17899137 (OP)
>Obsession with racial purity and paranoid hatred of conspiratorial minorities.
They had both of those.

>>17899342
The Aryan concept was theosophic nonsense that only mystery niggas like Rosenberg adhered to.

>>17899137 (OP)
These pics were satire about the weird things poor/illiterate Italians working in the military thought working in the colonies would entail

>>17899177
>War isn't an evil thing to Aryans.
Okay!
*bombs Dresden to cinders*

>>17899260
Dude It's just like... capitalism..