Thread 17930662

How do moralcucks cope with psychos? Their brains don’t have the glitch that makes NPCs seethe over 'muh fairness' and 'muh rights' like it is a survival instinct. And they thrive precisely because of it. If morality was really objective, then turbo-sociopaths wouldn't be running the world with scams, lies, and bodies in the basement. Laws against murder and theft would be as pointless as telling a normal person not to gasp for air underwater, people wouldn't even want to break them. But lol, they do. Checkmate, moralists, your theory of 'moral truth' is in direct conflict with reality.

>>17930662 (OP)
Morality not being adhered to isn't proof that it doesn't exist. Just like how a dark cavern isn't proof that light has never shined anywhere.

>and they thrive
no they don't, vast majority of them are giga retards that can only get the most basic bitch wagie jobs and even then often end up as bums

>>17930662 (OP)
Humans have free will, people can choose whether or not to adhere to morality, but morality still exists.

If your opinion is that there is no such thing as morality, only power and those who exercise it, then just cut the bullshit and come out with that instead

>>17930671
I agree, but the argument is deeper.

If morality were objectively true (like math), then violating it should lead to failure, just as claiming 2+2=5 would break (say) a rocket's design. But in reality, one can thrive while acting immorally... suggesting no "failure state" enforces moral truth. So unlike math, where truth is unavoidable, morality lacks this binding force. Where then is its objectitve truth?

>>17930662 (OP)
Being a psycho doesn't mean evil, though
Psychopaths coevolved with us because they ensure that there would aways be someone who can think logically no matter how bad the situation gets

And a true psychopath knows that having morals is the most ideal structure to ensure long term survival of the tribe

>>17930680
Look into Kantian morality. Thanks to the Categorical Imperative you don't need a figure like God to present a "binding force" in order for moral objectivity to still exist. "Act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law" presents a moral framework grounded in reason that persists regardless of if anyone adheres to it or not.

>>17930680
>can thrive while acting immorally
This is debatable. Might look that way to outsiders paying heed to perceived moral law, but I'd bet the majority of genuine morallettes are living in a kind of truly isolated persona hell, not from low level conscience but from hardwired misery devilry.

>>17930662 (OP)
Through God's justice and wrath

>>17930817
Even without a God, the nature of human psychology is such that, if you "sin" and don't repent, your life is likely to take the shape of a kind of hell. Hell is real and people are in it all over the world regardless of the hellishness of their surroundings, and they're in it for gluttonizing and shunning truth. But then there are psychopaths and the topic of the thread, just thinking out loud.

This only applies to atheist materialist "morality".

>>17930844
When was the last time God genuinely stopped the rapist? He always sides with him because of free will (the choice of the raped to not be raped doesn't matter apparently), and that's why he does nothing when he's actually being asked to intervene.

>>17930850
To play Devil's Advocate, how would you specifically ever know about every possible rape on the planet that God prevented from happening?

>>17930856
If God stops some rapes but allows others, he is still complicit. Why not prevent all of them? Omnipotence means no excuses for partial fixes.

>>17930850
The notion God created every soul, like your own, has dissuaded many from rape. You have to be especially demonic to realize that you are inflicting suffering on a fellow conscious being like yourself, like your little sister or mother, yet do it anyway.

>>17930662 (OP)
>>17930680
Psychos are in fact incapable of thriving. They can achieve high status and find fleeting pleasure but they will never know the contentment and true love that a mentally healthy person can enjoy.

>>17930674
This. For every corporate psychopath CEO there's a thousand drug dealers, thieves and gangsters who will die in the same poverty stricken slum they were born in.

>>17930662 (OP)
Morality is obviously subjective but >>17930674 and >>17931228 are true. Frankly even a lot of successful psychopaths are only successful because of the circumstances they were born into. A little less lucky and rather than becoming a CEO he'd be dead or in jail after a failed burglary.