Thread 17935825

Something that the Jewish historians avoid?

>>17935825 (OP)
The gradual transition from gas chamber theory to 'holocaust by bullets' theory. It's increasingly clear that yhey're just making it up as they go along.

Irving believed the Holocaust happened and the Nazis wanted to exterminate Slavs he just didn't believe in the gas chambers and didn't think Hitler ordered it or was aware of it.

>>17935825 (OP)
>Something that the Jewish historians avoid?
Complaining about the holographic cost while having a track record of war crimes since their country inception last century makes people not care about it, jews are their worst pr. Throw rock, hide hand is a meme for a reason.

>>17935825 (OP)
the jewish global population before and after the war, why is it the same? you mean to tell me they double population every 5 years?

>>17935825 (OP)
The complete lack of physical and documentary evidence.

>>17936604
Wrong hand

>>17935830
Never happen
>>17936294
Israel war crimes 80 years into the future don't have anything to do with Holocaust
>>17936600
2/3 of European Jews were killed during WW2, so it didn't stay the same, even today the global population of Jews didn't reach their 1939 number
>>17936604
The Holocaust—the systematic killing of about six million Jews by Nazi Germany from 1941 to 1945—is the most-documented genocide in history. Evidence for the Holocaust comes in four main varieties:

Contemporary documents, including a wide variety of "letters, memos, blueprints, orders, bills, speeches"; Holocaust train schedules and statistical summaries generated by the SS; and photographs, including official photographs, clandestine photographs by survivors, aerial photographs, and film footage of the liberation of the camps. More than 3,000 tons of records were collected for the Nuremberg trials.
Later testimony from tens of thousands of eyewitnesses, including survivors such as Sonderkommandos, who directly witnessed the extermination process; perpetrators such as Nazi leaders, SS guards, and Nazi concentration camp commandants; and local townspeople. Moreover, virtually none of the perpetrators put on trial denied the reality of the systematic murder, with the most common excuse (where one was given) being that they were just following orders.
Material evidence in the form of concentration and extermination camps, which still exist with various amounts of the original structure preserved, and thousands of mass graves containing the corpses of Holocaust victims.
Circumstantial evidence: during World War II, the population of Jews in German-occupied Europe was reduced by about six million. About 2.7 million Jews were deported to Auschwitz-Birkenau, Kulmhof extermination camp, and the Operation Reinhard camps never to be seen or heard from again.

>>17936600
Delete this immediately, asshole...

>>17936600
>the jewish global population before and after the war, why is it the same?
Human population expand exponentially. The jewish population's growth being arrested for six years is statistically odd and requires an explanation beyond "gotcha!".

>>17936628
>Later testimony from tens of thousands of eyewitnesses, inclu
But anon, if a few of them told lies and made up bullshit like the rollercoaster thing, that means every one of them conspired to make up the entire Holocaust.

Something like 70% of Nazi war planes were made in secret underground manufacturing facilities that you can look up right now

>>17935830
>implying there's been a transition and not just more people being made aware of both

>>17936669
Only communists claim the "Holocaust of bullets" narrative

>>17936600
>the stats for after the war specifically states its based on pre-war data and estimates

>>17936670
>muh commies

>>17936673
Yes. Communists claim that them getting killed during WWII was the Holocaust, and there tankies in every Holocaust thread claiming this. So they're probably just loser trannies

Regular reminder that Diary of a Young Girl was first published in 1947 and therefore cannot have been written in ballpoint pen as they weren't available until the 1950s. This means anyone who claims it was written in ballpoint pen is lying directly to your face.

>>17936674
>muh commies
>muh trannies

>>17936676
Yes, the only people that try to claim the Holocaust is real in such disingenuous ways are left wing trannies

>>17936678
>muh lefties
>muh trannies

>>17936679
Yes. They're mad because they lost

>>17936662
The funniest thing to me is that nazis have their own versiono of the rollercoaster stuff
>>17936670
>>17936674
The launch of Germany's "war of extermination" against the Soviet Union in June 1941 marked a turning point in the country's anti-Jewish policy from expulsion to mass murder; as a result, it is sometimes seen as marking the beginning of the Holocaust. At the start of the conflict, there were estimated to be approximately five million Jews in the Soviet Union of whom four million lived in the regions occupied by Nazi Germany in 1941 and 1942. The majority of Soviet Jews murdered in the Holocaust were killed in the first nine months of the occupation during the so-called Holocaust by Bullets. Approximately 1.5 million Jews succeeded in fleeing eastwards into Soviet territory; it is thought that 1.152 million Soviet Jews had been murdered by December 1942. In total, at least 2 million Soviet Jews were murdered.

>>17936681
>they lost

>>17936685
Did you know the Soviets lied about their population after WWII because the Germans killed so many of them?

>>17936669
No, the narrative used to say something like a plurality of jews were killed via gassing.
now they say they were killed in sporadic instances of mass shootings and relatively few were gassed.
Theres a David Cole Auschwitz tour where he asks the staff what methods were used and they say overwhelmingly it was gas, today the official stance is that it wasnt gas but bullets.

Theyre literally just making things up.

>>17936689
>now they say they were killed in sporadic instances of mass shootings and relatively few were gassed.
Where do they say this? With evidence?

>>17936662
It would certainly call 100% of their stories into question especially when you factor in mass hysteria.

What evidence would you need to see to admit the holocaust is largely fraudulent?

>>17936690
Literally every Holocaust thread has a tranny tankie claiming the Nazis pushing to Soviets shit in was the Holocaust. It's blatantly obvious what their motivation is for claiming this

>>17936692
>muh trannies

>>17936687
They did the oposite i think, claimed more deaths than they sufferted for more reparation money
>>17936689
You are lying/making things up, Jews being murdered both in gas chambers and in shootings in Soviet Union are both common knowladge

>>17936686
>White Empire fights another White Empire
>lefties are forced to identify with the White Empire they dislike the least
This is what being totally impotent looks like.

>>17936693
Yes tranny leftist tankies. Unless of course you're not a communist which nobody believes

>>17936654
I’m not saying “no jews died” obviously a population experiencing zero growth in a 5 year period is facing some form of turmoil
but how could you expect half pr 2/3rds of the population to be reported destroyed only to find there’s only about 10% missing?
that’s a discrepancy

>>17936692
>make stuff up
>asked for evidence
>uuhhh tranny!
geg

>>17936694
So the Soviets lied about their population?

What makes you think they didn't lie about the Jewish population?

>>17936691
Do you apply this equally to the first world war, because British soldiers saw an angel and the ghost of Henry V and his archers fighting alongside them at Mons?

>>17936695
>muh lefties
>>17936696
>muh trannies
>muh lefties

>>17936694
>You are lying/making things up, Jews being murdered both in gas chambers and in shootings in Soviet Union are both common knowladge
Wheres the lie?
No one said zero people were gassed or zero people were shot, however it is clear they can not get their numbers straight and have pivoted from millions were gassed to millions were shot.
That calls into question the entire narrative if they dont actually know what happened hundreds of thousands if not millions of people.

What evidence would You need to see to admit the holocaust was largely a fraud (this does not mean zero jews were killed, but that jews were not the target of a racial genocide)?
>>17936690
What did I say in my post?
What name did I give?
What did I describe?

>>17936701
If somebody told me there was a jungle gym of death during WWII where Italians forced arabs to monkey bars into a pit of live mines and they killed 10,000 people this way I would ask for a picture or eye witness

>>17936704
You said "they". Who are "they"?

>>17936695
>muh skin pigmentation
mental illness

>>17936699
>What makes you think they didn't lie about the Jewish population?
They did, they claim the less Jews died than in reality in order to gather more sympathy for their cause and enlarged the non-jewis deaths (or claims that the killed Jews were Soviet citzens) It's mostly after the fall of Eastern Block in 1989 the proper reserach of Aushwitz would been allowed
>>17936704
>however it is clear they can not get their numbers straight and have pivoted from millions were gassed to millions were shot.
heres the lie

>>17936709
So Soviets don't even know what happened

>>17936705
You've been told an angel fought alongside the British Army at Mons. Does this mean WW1 is a lie? Guys in trenches for years fighting the bad guys with black uniforms and spikes sticking out of their helmets? Come on.

>>17936709
How many were gassed then?

>>17936714
Again if I was told a bunch of slave masters made blacks march into the swamps of Louisiana to get eaten by alligators and 10,000 people died this way I would need extensive archeological, forensic and eye witness evidence

>>17936701
>do you apply this equally
No I think Henry V and his spectral horde rose from the dead for an evening to join Tommy LOL
but this is good, we are making progress, yes I do think the vast majority of statements about the holocaust are about as reliable as Henry V rising from the dead. That is what we would expect to see given what we know about group psychology and mass hysteria.

What evidence would you need to see to admit the holocaust is largely fraudulent?
>>17936703
So what are you politically? Are you a Socialist? Left Socialist? A Fascist? a Monarchist? A Capitalist Libertarian?

You obviously have a clear pattern of hating on certain groups solely because of their politics.
Me personally, because you seem to only use communism as a springboard to attack Germany this makes me think you hate both but Germany more than the USSR, which makes me think youre some kind of West Slavic ultranationalist.

So where are you from?
What do you think?
Youre not ashamed of this are you?

>>17936720
WW1 never happened. It's what ((((they)))) want you to think. Guys wrapping piss rags over their mouths to keep out military poison gas? Idiocy. An Arab-boo putting on robes and eyeliner and becoming an elite desert fighter? Childish nonsense.

>>17936723
How come not a single body has ever been found in one of the proposed mass graves containing hundreds of thousands

>>17936722
>the guy who has spent the entire thread so far (and will spend the rest of the thread doing so) screeching about trannies and lefties and lefty trannies, calms others hate certain groups based on their politics.

>>17936728
Well you ARE an annoying faggot

>>17936727
Indeed. Why is there not a SINGLE dead body from WW1 anywhere in any museum?

>>17936730
>no u!

>>17936712
>So Soviets don't even know what happened
They did, but they puprosfully manipulated the information in regards to murederd Jews to make their number smaller than in reality
still, no matter how much you wish for it, it doesn't make Holocaust fake
>>17936716
Approximately 2.7 million Jews were murdered at killing centers, it's hard to gauge the exact number but it should be easy to assume that most of them were killin in Gas Chambers while other were executed, starved to death, died by intentional neglect or from overwork etc

>>17936732
See this is why the Holocaust is a waste of time
It's just a religion for losers for WWII

>>17936736
>lovers for WWII
See >>17936686

>>17936735
>Soviets knew what happened in the Holocaust
>Nobody was allowed to investigate the true Holocaust until the Soviet union collapsed
These are not logical statements

>>17936740
The Soviets, Poles, Romanians, Hungarians, Jews, Allied planes, Germans (including high ranking Nazis, all of them defending themselvs by saying that they were forced to do it/only following orders, not a single one denying a whole thing) all know about Holocaust, it was just hard to gauge the most closes to the truth numbers (yes retard, in a large conflicts or tragedies where millions die it's often hard to do that to the person)
And Holocaust also was happening in Germany and on the Western front, just a smaller part of it (but still enough for the Western Allies to discover the mass graves in April and May)

>>17936744
No, military leaders saying they were following orders to invade Russia is not proof of the Holocaust

What's this recent /pol/tranny push to try and claim Soviet soldiers being killed on the battlefield is part of the Holocaust? Is this another example of them rejecting reality and substituting their own?

>>17936745
I'm talking about hundreds of people who guarded/comanded concentration/death camps (all admited that the holocaust was happning, not a SINGLE ONE denying it)

>>17936751
I can recall off of the top of my head an SS warehouse clerk being executed because Jews claimed he was personally responsible for tens of thousands of dead Jews

>>17936753
And you can name this SS Warehouse Clerk?

>>17936755
No. But he's pretty famous because he's one of the few SS actually charged with killing people. And he was a young clerk

>>17936756
>no evidence
Feels before reals anon.

>>17936753
Ok? Does that debunks anything that I said?

>>17936758
Look who's the Holocaust denier now

>>17936697
this plus the red cross estimated only 270,000 dead

>>17936760
Facts don't care about your feelings.

>>17936759
It's not about debunking. You implied. Right. That there's probably thousands of SS who partook in murdering people? So I'm sure you have better evidence than repeating yourself of "following orders".

>>17936697
>>17936761
Holocaust deniers often cite an International Red Cross visit as evidence that no mass murder was taking place in Auschwitz. They claim that the lack of this organisation’s objections to the camp supposedly proves the absence of gas chambers and genocidal activities.

The facts:

The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) never visited any death camps (including Auschwitz II-Birkenau). The only visitation of this sort was to the Theresienstadt ghetto in the second half of June 1944. One of the members of the delegation was an employee of the Berlin branch of the ICRC, Maurice Rossel. He failed to recognise the reality of the situation in the ghetto and his report in no way reflected the living conditions and sufferings of the Theresienstadt inmates.

On 27th September 1944, Rossel also travelled to Auschwitz. However, he was not allowed into the camp. Instead, he was received by the commandant (or a staff officer – Maurice Rossel was not sure which one of them). As he noted in his report: ‘From the talks with the commandant, conducted in the presence of ’ polite but taciturn’ officers, it could be concluded that parcels addressed to individual prisoners were delivered to them in their entirety and that trustees were assigned to each national group, including a ’Judenältester’, who could receive and freely distribute collective parcels among the prisoners, whereas any cases of trickery were severely punished.’ Rossel did not visit the part of the camp where the prisoners were, let alone Birkenau, where the gas chambers were, and therefore he had no knowledge of the living conditions for prisoners or the mass murder of people in Auschwitz.

>>17936763
??
I don't know what are you implying
Are you saying that Nuremberg Military Tribunals never happend?

>>17935830
The only people who've ever claimed that everyone was gassed are holocaust deniers or the misinformed.
>>17936604
there are none so blind as those who will not see
>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/250397297_Excavating_Nazi_Extermination_Centres
>The mass graves (Fig. 8) are up to ve meters deep and their ll consists mostly of charcoal and cremated remains. About a fth of the graves also contains decomposing corpses in the state of wax-fat transformation. Grave 10 is one of the biggest (24x18m) and the deepest (5.2m). It consists mainly of decomposing corpses, and at the depth of 4.4m there is a layer of lime. Lime is found in other graves too and was probably used to accelerate decomposi-tion. Mass grave 5, 32x10x4.5m, is also one of the largest graves, but it contains only layers of burnt human remains. The burnt ll is separated by sterile sand indicating multiple ll-ing. The drilling and the analysis of sediments suggest to the archaeologists that when the centre was eliminated, there were 33 mass graves
>>17936689
>Theres a David Cole Auschwitz tour where he asks the staff what methods were used and they say overwhelmingly it was gas, today the official stance is that it wasnt gas but bullets
You must be being debilitately retarded, the majority of deaths in Auschwitz were caused by gas, the shootings largely happened out in the country, where Jews were rounded up out of recently conquered villages and shot.

>>17936769
Have you never once individually researched SS members and what they were executed for? You can probably count on two hands people charged with murdering over 1,000 people in the Holocaust

>>17936773
>Have you never once individually researched SS members and what they were executed for?
No, It doesn't interest me and I don't feel like this is important to the topic but since you become weirdly fixated on this thing then here is the first one i found after 20 seconds
Erich Naumann, SS-Brigadeführer who had a key role in the Holocaust in Eastern Europe as the commander of Einsatzgruppe VI and the commander of Einsatzgruppe B
When asked about muredering civilian Jews, he said
>No, your Honor, I considered the decree to be right, because it was part of our aim of the war and therefore it was necessary.

>>17936776
He was a warehouse clerk that had sex parties with the women in the camps and the jews didn't like him so much they accused him of personally killing like 40,000 people, then he killed himself

Not like I actually care about informing low IQ retards like yourself

>>17936732
At least for the napoleonic battlefield of Europe, we know that the British ate all the corpses.

>>17936706
re-read my post, I expound on who "they" is.
>>17936709
>the lie
can you prove this is a lie?

>>17936778
>>Have you never once individually researched SS members and what they were executed for?
>No
https://youtu.be/jzQcMJBEO_M

>>17936779
>rape fantasies and playing victim in a single sentence
damn...

>>17936779
>knows all these details
>can't provide a name to verify thus
Hmmm...

>>17936781
I prove this is lie by claming that there is no source to your statment and I accuse you of just making this one up, prove me wrong now?
>>17936782
Hey, in case you missed it, I reserached one for you :)
>>17936778

>>17936789
Anybody that researches what SS members were killed for will instantly find a lot of plot holes

>>17936770
>belzec
>600,000 apparent victims
>"mass graves" contain a few scattered human remains; nowhere near the material evidence to support such an absurdly high death toll
https://nukebook.org/instruments/camp/pure-extermination-camp/belzec/

>>17936792
That's nice. Now what's this sexy SS warehouse clerks name?

>>17936792
give me one plot hole?

>>17936797
Well if you believe the SS were personally responsible for the holocaust then there would be enough SS personally charged with the personal murder of jews to total over what... a hundred thousand?

>>17936689
>the narrative used to say something like a plurality of jews were killed via gassing
provide evidence that this was the previous narrative.
>>17936689
>now they say they were killed in sporadic instances of mass shootings and relatively few were gassed
provide evidence that this is the current narrative.

>>17936795
>here on my neonazi site they said holabunga didn't happen
lol
>>17936799
Holocaust was carried out by Nazi Germany (Nazi Party, SS, Wermacht, Gestapo etc) As well as their collaborators

>>17936806
Right but the narrative is that the SS personally gassed all the jews, if that's the case why are so few SS in the camps actually charged with murder? And how come of the few people actually charged with murdering tens of thousands of people you find 18 year old warehouse clerks which had no part in the gassings?

>>17936810
Oh boy, it's this prick. Why haven't you killed yourself out of shame yet?

>>17936811
Why would I kill myself for logically looking at the holocaust

>>17936810
And STILL no name of this 18 year old warehouse clerk.

>>17936810
>Right but the narrative is that the SS personally gassed all the jews
It was never a serious historical narrative, just a propaganda carried out by NATO and Western Allies in attempt to repair their relations with Western Germany by creating the clean Wermacht myth, all of this is videly critized by everyone nowadays, which means that you claim is an untrue one

>>17936806
>they found a couple of bones in a field in belzec, therefore 600,000 people were murdered there in gas chambers

>>17936813
For the multiple lies you've told about that book, one after the other.

>>17936816
Sorry but I will never believe the Wermacht personally killed millions of civilians

>>17936819
Wehrmacht*

>>17936819
Why?

>>17936821
I can imagine no quicker way to have your army dissolve before your eyes than having them execute civilians

>>17936824
Well, funny you should mention that...

>>17936828
The germans couldn't have 360 no scoped the soviets like they did while simultaneously juggling army mandated ethnic cleansing

this is just soviet era cope

>>17936817
i don't care about your neonazi site bozo
>>17936819
well, that sounds like your problem then
>>17936824
if you repeatly told them for years that their enemies are not even humans that don't deserve to breathe and they are constantly out to get you then this will happen, that's why it's so important to fight aganist the totalitarian racists ideologies, last it will be your family next that will be murdered for nothing

>>17936829
Again, funny you say that...

>>17936830
Except there's nothing in german philosophy that advocates murdering people besides communists, which I'm game for

>>17936832
See, you are already like them
Be grateful to God that you live in peaceful times where you are just a harmless angry internet incel instead of actually murdering women and children like many did 80 years ago

>>17936835
Sorry but if I had to choose between an anime posting poletroon and hans I'm choosing hans

>>17936836
Off you go then, there's still time to join the reddit battalions in Ukraine.

>>17936836
That is your right, but I'm only shitposting in low quality /pol/threads like here

>>17936838
Ukraine, you mean where all the jews were after the holocaust?

>>17936841
You can try and pretend like you're shitposting but you changed the subject pretty quick when I brought up that there weren't enough SS members charged with murder to account for a percentage of the holocaust

>>17936842
What's the post war Jewish population if Ukraine anon?

>>17936845
Ask the soviets, oh wait "the soviets didn't know what happened either"

>>17936844
Holocaust was carried out by Nazi Germany (Nazi Party, SS, Wermacht, Gestapo etc) As well as their collaborators

>>17936846
So how can you know that's where all the Jews went?

>>17936847
Okay so there were army men charged with executing tens of thousands of jews?

>>17936850
What kind of question is that? Ever heard of Nuremberg trials?

>>17936855
I'm not doing your research for you mr "I'm never actually looked at the charges brought against germans"

>>17936846
I didn't know that Soviet Union is still a thing, I guess them getting disovled in 1991 is another Jewish lie

>>17936859
What's the name of the 18 year old SS warehouse clerk who was executed for being too sexy?

>>17936859
I don't see the relation of topic
You want to know if Germans were tried for their war crimes? yes, they were
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_trials
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsequent_Nuremberg_trials

>>17936866
okay but you've never actually looked into the charges, I bet you havent even read the trial transcripts

>>17936868
And me not looking into it disproves Holocaust how?

>>17936872
Because the nuremburg trials disprove the holocaust

>>17936873
How does nuremburg trials disprove the holocaust?

>>17936878
many many ways, I'm sure you're familiar with show trials? pretty common in dictatorships

>>17936880
In what many many ways? can you name one way?

>>17936881
Well since the holocaust trials were show trials the defendants were not allowed to cross examine the "witnesses" or the validity of the "evidence"

>>17936880
>a show trial that acquitted most of the defendants and gave most of the rest short prison terms.

>>17936885
Exactly! the holocaust is so flimsy the show trials held no weight!

>>17936884
The Holocaust—the systematic killing of about six million Jews by Nazi Germany from 1941 to 1945—is the most-documented genocide in history. Evidence for the Holocaust comes in four main varieties:

Contemporary documents, including a wide variety of "letters, memos, blueprints, orders, bills, speeches"; Holocaust train schedules and statistical summaries generated by the SS; and photographs, including official photographs, clandestine photographs by survivors, aerial photographs, and film footage of the liberation of the camps. More than 3,000 tons of records were collected for the Nuremberg trials.
Later testimony from tens of thousands of eyewitnesses, including survivors such as Sonderkommandos, who directly witnessed the extermination process; perpetrators such as Nazi leaders, SS guards, and Nazi concentration camp commandants; and local townspeople. Moreover, virtually none of the perpetrators put on trial denied the reality of the systematic murder, with the most common excuse (where one was given) being that they were just following orders.
Material evidence in the form of concentration and extermination camps, which still exist with various amounts of the original structure preserved, and thousands of mass graves containing the corpses of Holocaust victims.
Circumstantial evidence: during World War II, the population of Jews in German-occupied Europe was reduced by about six million. About 2.7 million Jews were deported to Auschwitz-Birkenau, Kulmhof extermination camp, and the Operation Reinhard camps never to be seen or heard from again.

>>17936889
Do you not know how trials work? defendants are supposed to be able to try and refute the claims made against them

>>17936890
Why none of them refuted?

>>17936898
Because people were allowed to come into the court and claim atrocities with no evidence and it was submitted into evidence. Surely you understand people like Goering were not even tangentially connected to the claims of the holocaust?

>>17936900
>surely you understood that the man in charge of the luftwaffe is not connected to the slave labor used to produce the aircraft and equipment his men used or the experiments carried out to keep them alive for longer

>>17936900
>with no evidence

>The Holocaust—the systematic killing of about six million Jews by Nazi Germany from 1941 to 1945—is the most-documented genocide in history. Evidence for the Holocaust comes in four main varieties:

Contemporary documents, including a wide variety of "letters, memos, blueprints, orders, bills, speeches"; Holocaust train schedules and statistical summaries generated by the SS; and photographs, including official photographs, clandestine photographs by survivors, aerial photographs, and film footage of the liberation of the camps. More than 3,000 tons of records were collected for the Nuremberg trials.
Later testimony from tens of thousands of eyewitnesses, including survivors such as Sonderkommandos, who directly witnessed the extermination process; perpetrators such as Nazi leaders, SS guards, and Nazi concentration camp commandants; and local townspeople. Moreover, virtually none of the perpetrators put on trial denied the reality of the systematic murder, with the most common excuse (where one was given) being that they were just following orders.
Material evidence in the form of concentration and extermination camps, which still exist with various amounts of the original structure preserved, and thousands of mass graves containing the corpses of Holocaust victims.
Circumstantial evidence: during World War II, the population of Jews in German-occupied Europe was reduced by about six million. About 2.7 million Jews were deported to Auschwitz-Birkenau, Kulmhof extermination camp, and the Operation Reinhard camps never to be seen or heard from again.

>Goering were not even tangentially connected to the claims of the holocaust?
Goering was responsible for Holocaust by being a high ranking Nazi leader, no matter how hard he tried to make it looked like Hitler and Himmler fault only

>>17936654
>>you really expect me to believe the jewish population simultaneously doubled and halved in a few years
>yes
Solid argument you won me over

>>17936902
Reminder, slave labor isn't the holocaust

>>17936906
>rounding up Jews and forcing them to work for you until they drop dead isn't the holocaust

>>17936907
Correct, kvetch all you want

>>17936908
How quickly the
>we were da jooz victims!
turns into
>haha were stronk kvetch all you want!

>>17936910
You're the one trying to change the narrative to implicate Goering

>>17936908
I see we are using the /pol/tranny definition of the Holocaust, which is whatever is helpful to them at any given moment.

>>17936913
>>17936911

>>17936907
>get sent to work death in death camp
>death camp has a infirmary, maternity ward, horse stable, swimming pool, camp currency, a fucking orchestra
The Germans were really bad at their job of working them to death

>>17936914
When do you think the use of Jewish slave labor to the death was added to the holocaust narrative?

>>17936920
Can you prove that Goering personally pursued a policy of "working people to death"? Surely there's a document?

Surely you remember that we were talking about Goering which had no involvement with the camps?

>>17936918
Describe the conditions in this maternity ward.

>>17936795
>>17936817
>Couple of bones
Literally confirming my point that you are deliberately ignoring the evidence. The link talks about multiple graves the size of swimming pools, many filled with ash (you can fit a cremated human inside a pot), and you dismiss it as "a couple of bones"

>>17936922
How about a picture ready available form google

>>17936921
When do you think the use of Jewish slave labor to the death was added to the holocaust narrative anon?

>>17936911
>>17936920
Substanial ammout of Jews died during the forced slave labour yes. Women and Children were murded by nazis first.

>>17936918
Auschwitz was built as a permanent concentration camp and was to continue to serve as a place of confinement for the so-called enemies of the Reich in the future, ‘after victory’. With time, the camp’s role as a centre of mass extermination should be reduced, therefore, within the projects for its expansion emphasis was placed on the construction of reliable water and sanitary facilities in prisoners’ living quarters, as was the case with other concentration camps in German territory.

Due to the fire hazard, in 1944, construction began on 10 firewater reservoirs (out of a total of 17 planned) within the Auschwitz camp complex. One of these, measuring 25 x 5 meters, was built inside the Auschwitz I camp fence, near the so-called Birkenallee. It is likely that during the final stages of construction, the reservoir was equipped with swimming pool elements: starting blocks, a diving board, and a ladder. Survivors’ testimonies provide different interpretations of the reasons for this modification. One theory suggests that camp functionaries (block leaders, kapos) initiated the addition of these swimming pool features. Allegedly, camp physician Eduard Wirths approved the idea under the pretext that swimming would improve prisoners' physical condition and thus increase their ability to work. This theory seems plausible since such modifications could not have been made without the approval of the SS authorities, as they required scarce materials—bricks, iron, and mortar. One survivor, Adam Jerzy Brandhuber, recalled in his memoirs that shortly after the construction was completed, SS officers selected prisoners who appeared healthy, had them change into bathing suits taken from the "Canada" warehouses, and took several photographs near the pool, likely for propaganda purposes.

>>17936925
fuck off retard

>>17936922
>>17936924
Apparently pretty good, how do you try to genocide a people and let them continue to breed in the extermination facilities? That's literally negative numbers to the holocaust total

>>17936924
Describe the conditions anon.

>>17936925
>it's not a murded if we only work you to death
why are nazis so disgusting

>>17936929
They used the babies as grease for the dildo machines

>>17936927
I accept your concession and expect you to mention this thread in your suicide note.

>>17936934
"Goering ordered jews to be worked to death as a policy of genocide"

okay glad to see you people are 100% uninformed

>>17936929
>>17936933
The Birkenau camp, in turn, was not intended to be a permanent detention centre. It was built in a hurry without regard for suitable sanitary conditions. This led to a massive typhus epidemic outbreak in the summer of 1942. Consequently, the decision was taken to build facilities for the supply of water, a sewage system and a modern sewage treatment plant.
he purpose of constructing a mechanical biological treatment plant in Birkenau was to improve hygienic and sanitary conditions in general and to prevent the outbreak of epidemics, which also threatened the SS personnel and the local German civilian population.

>>17936929
>let them continue to breed in the extermination facilities

>>17936938
Typhus broke out because they were importing starving people from slums to be deloused

If anything it sounds like the germans were trying to save people

>>17936939
The existence of a camp orchestra had a strictly practical dimension: it played military marching music, which was assumed to make the prisoner Kommandos march to and from work more efficiently.


An excerpt from Stanisław Tomaszewski’s report:

… Lined up in fives, hassled by dogs, pushed and shoved, we were marched up to the camp gate. The camp was still asleep. We stand and wait, no one is allowed to sit. […] I read the inscription on the camp gate, ‘Arbeit macht frei‘, once, twice, for the tenth time, and alternately the thought, how to get away from here. The gong is struck, the wake-up call for the camp. …

I can’t believe my ears: an orchestra is playing a marching melody.

In front of the gate, next to which we had been standing for a few hours, an SS unit approaches, armed with submachine guns, ready to shoot, some with dogs. The gate opens and I see my future fellows-in-suffering. A terrible sight. Emaciated human figures, skeletons dressed in striped uniforms, most of them wearing wooden clogs, shaven heads, caps removed, hands pressed against the thighs, a bowl or a cup fastened by a piece of string. Some of the faces are bruised, and swollen, I notice some are limping, they can’t keep up the pace of the march. Prisoner functionaries run up and beat them with whatever is at hand, a stick or a bare fist. Some of the prisoners stagger, they’re unable to go on. Standing at the gate, the camp commandant orders them to be removed from the column and stand between the barbed wire fences. They are no longer fit for work, their fate is sealed, they’ll get spiked with phenol or petrol, or the prisoner functionaries will beat them to death on the way back to the block. They’ll go to the Himmelkommando (to heaven); their fate is certain death. Column after column marched on, several thousand people, and the orchestra kept playing …’

Source: Stanisław Tomaszewski, ASMA-B, Zespół Oświadczenia [Testimonies], vol. 117

>>17936937
Whom are you quoting anon?

>>17936938
The built infrastructure in the death camp to improve the health of the people they wanted to murder? Wow they really were bad at this holocaust thing

>>17936942
Germans were murdeing civilians, men women and children
Since Aushwitz was also a labour camp, they obviously wouldn't want the Typhus in it as it would treathen the guards alike (unless you are one of those /pol/faggots that think that Germans were immune to Typhus somehow)

>>17936946
>which also threatened the SS personnel and the local German civilian population

>>17936947
Okay but if you're importing starving typhus infected people from slums and cleaning them some are going to die right

Are there ever any Holocaust deniers that don’t have an ulterior motive?

>>17936950
I don't have an ulterior motive, I just don't like liars

>>17936948
>they improved the conditions of the extermination camp only to help the city miles away
You should win a gold medal in mental gymnastics

>>17936952
Yah, I suspect you’re either very on board with Hitler, or you have some deep seated objection against Israeli policy of some sort which you’ve conflated with Jewish people. Or both.

>>17936958
I don't care about jews, they're irrelevant. Unless they lie

>>17936949
Why does it blows your mind that a kindaped Jew could be all shoot, worked to death, killed by gassing or died from illness?
>>17936950
i NEVER saw one who was't a neonazi faggot, it just doesn't happen

>>17936958
nta, I can't imagine why anyone would ever associate Israel with the Jewish people, how could one be that stupid?

>>17936960
Nazis are pretty shitty, right? Starting a huge war, stealing a bunch of stuff, we won’t even get into the mass murder. Just awful people, right?

>>17936953
>crying about mental gymnastics for a quote he believes half of and refutes the other half

>>17936962
How are you a pole supporting the holocaust when the soviets cut off your holocaust welfare gibs and gave them all to jews? Didn't as many poles get shot out of cannons into walls as the jews?

>>17936965
The part we agreed on was infrastructure was built in the camps and directly benefited the health of people whom you claim were there to be killed. I accept your concession.

>>17936962
I mean, they often pretend they aren't because inside their grooming circles they are often told to "hide their power level" but they also can't help but do mask off moments like >>17936695 or >>17936832

>>17936966
ever heard that two bad things don't make one good?

>>17936962
Yup. It’s always one of two things. It’s either people who want to rehabilitate Hitler, or it’s people who object to Israeli policies and have crossed from being against Zionism to being against Jews in general because they confuse the two.
>>17936963
Pretty dumb. It’s the kind of thing you see when you get those ‘kill ‘em all and let God sort ‘em out’ types with respect to Arabs/Muslims.

>>17936969
As a pole do you not question why jews are elevated above you when you were the real victim of WWII?

>>17936968
>infrastructure was built to stop disease spreading
>ok
>to stop disease spreading outside the camp
>what ridiculous horseshit!
This is your position right now

>>17936970
>Pretty dumb. It’s the kind of thing you see when you get those ‘kill ‘em all and let God sort ‘em out’ types with respect to Arabs/Muslims.
How is this the most retarded thing said in this thread?

>>17936975
It’s the same difference. Then again, the kind of person who can’t tell the difference between Jews and Israel is the kind of person who blamed Iraq for what a bunch of Saudis operating out of Afghanistan did. In short, real morons.

>>17936600
>the jewish global population before and after the war, why is it the same?
It's not.

>>17936982
Man I guess the US isn't completely filled with eastern european communist jew spawn

>>17936979
The fact you can even read is nothing short of a miracle after seeing you be stupid enough as to deny a connection between Israel and the Jewish people

>>17936983
Correct, can't you read a graph?

>>17936985
the unsourced graph?

>>17936984
You know there are Jews who actively protest what the Lakud government is doing in Gaza? I know it’s probably really confusing to someone who views Jews as the cause of every random thing that hurts his feels, but Israel does not equal Judaism.

>>17936987
Says the "all the Jews moved to Ukraine, no I have no evidence" cunt.

>>17936985
>can't you read a graph
the graph that says 3 million jews disappeared in the US/latin aamerica?

>>17936987
We'll do things in order, sweaty.
>the jewish global population before and after the war, why is it the same?
What was the source for this, and why did you believe it?

>>17936991
Where does it say that anon?

>>17936992
How did 3 million jews die in the americas?

>>17936995
Are you playing dumb or actually?

>>17936971
Jews were propably the most innocent victims of WW2 as they did not have their political structure or army, 95% of Holocaust victims were some poor Jews living in some city or on the countryside and not bothering anyone until they were killed because some Austrian painter decided that they pollute the blood
Also I usually don't see a lot Polonophobia + I'm not really a nationalist myself. I will defend Poland where they were right (German-Soviet invasion of 1939) and not defend them where they were in the wrong (antisemitism and bullying ukraininans and belarusians)

>>17937000
>pole honestly telling me it's okay that the poles got anally raped by the germans and soviets because the jews were the real victims
https://youtu.be/R--jGkng8To

>>17936924
Lying faggot, this picture is of a red cross hospital set up after the liberation of the concentration camp
>https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Photo-4-Former-Auschwitz-I-concentration-camp-A-ward-in-one-of-the-hospital-blocks_fig12_344161872
>Photo 4. | Former Auschwitz I concentration camp. A ward in one of the hospital blocks, with Polish Red Cross hospital staff and the nuns who were carers in the centre. Photo by S. Mucha, for the Extraordinary State Commission of the Soviet Union for the Investigation of the Crimes of the German Fascist Aggressors, February or March 1945 (APMA-B, nr neg. 802)

>>17937003
I just told you that Poland was one of the many victim of Germany in 1939? Did you compelety give up on reading or something

>>17936995
Did you run away from the question like a pussy because the answer is too pathetic for you to admit?

>>17936989
And there's Christians who run LGBT+ friendly churchs, nothing is totally unified but a small minority doesnt mean much when the vast majority do. I know its hard to argue without strawmans and what aboutism but bless your 65 IQ soul

>>17937005
Yeah I'm not really reading you retard's entire posts
>95% of Holocaust victims were Jews

This is refuted by holocaust testimony, are you a false flagging jew?

>>17937009
95% were some poor Jews that didn't mind anyone, 5% could some Jews who actually fight back or were richer and had more impact, that was my meaning, i hope it help!

>>17937012
It's a myth that jews did not put up an armed resistance, probably to mentally gymnastics over the problem of jews marching into gas chambers like cattle

If you believe the holocaust you believe the jews are the most feeble retarded creatures on the planet. Even cows require guard rails to get them into the slaughterhouse

>>17937009
>lose all arguments
>hehe i'm not reading your posts
poltranny is close to the melty i feel it

>>17937008
Man, just Israeli electoral politics should tell you the minority isn’t small. So let me guess then. You’re mad at some of the shit Israel does, and rather than being in opposition to that, you’ve gone full retard and just jumped into Hitler did nothing wrong, it never happened, but it should have, and they deserved it. Whenever I get some derelict like you insulting my intelligence, it always makes me feel good. So thanks for that.

Ultimate question:
Why does it even matter? It was 80 years ago. Move on.

>>17937014
Some Jews were drafted to the armies of countries that housed them, other than that an actual Jewish partisants were pretty small compared to other resitance movements
>mentally gymnastics over the problem of jews marching into gas chambers like cattle
If someone with a weapon pointed at you would told your faggot ass to move somewhere then trust me, you would obey

>>17937018
>Asking why does history matter on a history board

>>17937020
I'd definitely rather the guard shoot me in the face than die a slow agonizing death to bug killer

>>17937018
It matters mostly because people with ulterior motives keep trying to distort the historical record for political and social reasons.

>>17937018
because Neonazis faggots like >>17937014 continue to include nazi rhetorics in any criticism of the Israel, thus acting as their best useful idiots, it will not end anytime soon
>>17937024
look out we have a badass overhere

>>17937028
>If you don't believe Jews marched into cellars one at a time to die prolonged deaths to bug killer clawing at their throats you're a badass
Okay

>>17937016
If Israel actually was the way its portrayed I would support it. A beacon of liberty in the dark middle east and a staunch US ally but we live in the real world were its a terrorist state and its people corrupt and subvert mine. Get off your high horse just because your insults are guised as concern or genuine inquiries.

>>17937032
How do they corrupt and subvert your people?

>>17937031
you would act like the most submisive compliant jester the moment someone would point a gun at you

>>17937043
I would probably ask the guard if he was going to kill me why not just shoot me

>>17937032
No, you’ve admitted your ulterior motive. That’s all. Thanks for that. See? It isn’t hard. You can just do that without trying to distort history for your political aims. Though you’re on about subversion and the dark Middle East, so you are exactly the kind of person I expected. Thanks for tickling my confirmation bias for me. That’s a nice lil hit of dopamine.

>>17937045
>why didn't the Nazis just shoot the Jews
And here. We. Go.

>>17937028
> everyone disagreeing with me is a Nazi
This is a true N-word

>>17937042
Proponents of mass uncontrolled immigration only in my lands, AIPAC control of congress to secure billions of my tax dollars, selling state secrets to my enemies, pushing judeo- bolsheivsm, pushing anti Americanism in schools, ect. Their wars against the Muslims don't both me, im not crying about gaza

>>17937045
jesus
the guard would smash your ugly face with a rilfe and 10 more would shout at you to hurry up, stop doing the internet tough guy act, it's pathethic
>>17937051
what do you think about nazism?

>>17937048
lol is that you Sargon? Don't get too high on your farts

>>17937053
Anything else that isn't a conspiracy theory?

>>17937055
Okay so we have evidence of guards marching people into the gas chambers, with people personally named and charged? Everybody would know their face, right?

>>17937051
>If you deny the holocaust and think Jews are automatically evil just because they're Jewish then you're a nazi
Yes?

>>17937066
I'm afraid it would be very hard to charge tens of millions of germans and their collaborators in Holocaust

>>17937064
US tax dollars built a border wall in Israel but jews here threw a tantrum and fought it when we wanted to build one.

>>17937053
btw Tel-Avil sends his thanks to retards like who insert
>b-but Hitler was a good guy we all need to hail the swastika flag!!
everytime anyone tries to criticize Israel, your tireless work for their sake is appreciated

>>17937070
So not a single guard was ever recognized for having forced Jews into gas chambers?

>>17937079
Lot of them were recognized and tried

>>17937079
Who said that anon?

>>17937082
Are you sure? Because polgod, the guy that "doesn't care what the Germans were charged for" doesn't seem to think there were

>>17937090
Is the estrogen starting to eat at your brain?

>>17937090
>Are you sure?
Yes

>>17937093
Okay you can post a single guard whose duty it was to force Jews into gas chambers?

>>17937078
Where did i praise Hitler? I'm 102% Anglo with a 2% margin of error. Also anime is gay

>>17937094
https://www.auschwitz.org/en/history/the-ss-garrison/trials-of-ss-men-from-the-auschwitz-concentration-camp-garrison

>>17937098
So you don't actually know if any guards were ever charged with forcing Jews into gas chambers.

>>17937096
What do you think of Hitler? Outside of repeating nazi state propaganda lines like judeo-bolshevism etc

>>17937101
Lay off the pills sweety.

>>17937102
Too German for my taste

>>17937101
More members of the Auschwitz SS garrison stood trial in Poland than anywhere else. From 1946 to 1949, about 1 thousand people suspected of committing war crimes at Auschwitz were extradited to Poland, mostly from the American occupation zone in Germany. Charges were brought against 673 people, including 21 women.

The Warsaw trial of commandant Rudolf Höss

The best known trial was that of the first commandant, Rudolf Höss, before the Supreme National Tribunal in Warsaw. On April 2, 1947, the tribunal sentenced Höss to death.

The Cracow trial of the SS garrison

The Supreme National Tribunal sat in Cracow for a second important trial, known as the Auschwitz garrison trial. Of the 40 people indicted, 23 (including the second Auschwitz commandant, Arthur Liebehenschel, political department head Maximilian Grabner, and women’s camp director Maria Mandel) were sentenced to death, and 6 to life imprisonment.

>>17937105
Was there a single person in the entire Holocaust that they found that was guilty of forcing Jews at gunpoint into gas chambers?

>>17937102
His statements about the jews in mein campf especially about their role in ww1 are largely true. His actions, especially about needing living space for the germans are garbage and an excuse to annex his neighbors.

>>17937114
>Approximately 100,000 German Jews served in the German army during World War I. Of these, around 12,000 died fighting for Germany. Many Jewish soldiers were highly decorated for their service, including receiving the Iron Cross

>>17937116
Good job disproving the Holocaust

>>17937118
How does German Jews figthing for Germany in WW1 disproves the Holocaust?

>>17937114
How did poor Jewish pesants living in Poland and Russia were responsible for German loss in WW1?

>>17937116
Ok?

>>17937119
>Approximately 150,000 individuals of Jewish ancestry served in the German Wehrmacht during World War II

>>17936728
Your post doesnt make sense
>hate
you are projecting.

>>17937120
Why are you in this thread much less this board if you haven't read Mein Compf? Even if you hate the nazis and believe in the holocaust it was written by one of the most influential people of the 20th century and is basic required reading for any ww2 education. Don't worry all the copies printed in England all come with mandatory annotations explaining why Hitler is wrong and the Jews never once wronged Germans

Name one ‘Jewish historian’ and their specific lie.

>>17937128
Is that the Mein Kampf that states that persecuted German minorities aren't worth saving and they should be left to die and be ethnically cleansed?

>>17936803
>provide evidence
This is STILL the narrative today at the Auschwitz museum.

What evidence would you accept?

>>17937125
How drafting Germans with Jewish ancestry into Wehrmacht disproves the murded of 6 million Jews by nazis?
>>17937128
I don't care that much about WW2 i just don't like internet neonazis because i considerd you to be filth

>>17937136
>persecuted German minorities
Literally what all the annexation up to Poland was about. I've defeated 3 of you guys already and you keep coming.

>>17937138
>the Auschwitz museum says this
>no I won't say where

>>17937138
>Not a single person charged with operating a gas chamber
>Not a single person charged for forcing people into gas chamber
>To this day with modern technology we can't explain who or how this system worked
>The best we have are communist prisoner sonderkommandos saying they stole from dead prisoners

>>17937140
Not a neo nazi but the feeling is mutual anime pedophile

>>17937140
Well the narrative that Germans killed the Jews because of their race doesn't make much sense if they were drafting them into the military

>>17936969
>mask off
>its a post stating the USSR wasnt a bastion of Liberalism
????????
what was the neo nazi mask? that the USSR WAS a bastion of liberalism?
>>17937000
No they had an army and were engaged in soft forms of conflict long before any official war broke out.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betar

>no bothering anyone
no they were murdering people, civilians, outright for years before any official war started.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmach

>>17937141
Yeah, Hitler says in Mein Kampf that those minorities should be left to die. Yiu have read Mein Kampf right?

>>17937141
Germans in Poland were possibly the only minority that wasn't persecuted, also why he annexed the whole Poland then?
>>17937146
And the cowardice of not admiting your own beliefs is the biggest reason for my disgust towards your kind

>>17937147
Stormtrannies in charge of knowing what the Nuremberg laws were.

>>17937152
Germans don't consider poles capable of creating a functional state. Even modern Poland is half of Germany

>>17937148
>years before any official war started
>The Palmach was established in May 1941.

>>17937147
Why do you think it's not possible to both draft germans with jewis ancestry to fight and die for them while also murdering 6 million jews (mostly other nationals from conquered countries)
>>17937148
Yeah, some Jews managed to organize and fight the criminal nazi regime, good for them

>>17937157
In order to facilitate the Holocaust intellectually the kind of evil necessary wouldn't allow Jews in the military

>>17937149
Yes I have. Are you attempting to make a point here or just use the chewbacca defense ?

>>17937155
That's what they were thinking yes
>>17937159
why do you need to facilitate intellectually the murder?

>>17937142
The museum website has a special section for holocaust denial, you should read it, it has contradictory information and the very evidence you're asking for is literally two links from the home page to the denial page to the gas chambers.
>https://www.auschwitz.org/en/stop-denial/camp-infrastructure-denies-extermination/
You didnt even bother googling "arguments against holocaust denial" otherwise youd have known this fact that yes they do purport most deaths were mass execution via gassing.
Their evidence for which btw are alleged written statements by people who werent even there, while as has been pointed out here by the revisionists, there isnt actually any hard evidence gas chambers were used as a form of mass execution.

You're one of two things maybe both: extremely lazy or extremely dishonest.

>>17937161
You think Germans are murder bots but they need a reason to do anything they do like anything else.

That's called a motive. Something that was never actually established.

>>17937156
The Haganah formed the Palmach out of former Stern Gang members, the Stern gang was active from 1931 onward.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun
The Palmach was the formalized version of Lehi/Sterngang.

Do your jewish history knowledge begin and end with the holocaust?
>>17937157
>Yeah, some Jews managed to organize and fight the criminal nazi regime, good for them
>the criminal nazi regime of 1931
????????

>>17937169
kill the people that propaganda brainwashed you into hating them, who pollute you race
steal their shit
more food for germans starving by the blockade
slave labour while millions of germans are going to be drafted into army
lots of motives

>>17937157
>The Betar Movement (Hebrew: תנועת בית״ר), also spelled Beitar (בית"ר), is a Revisionist Zionist youth movement founded in 1923 in Riga, Latvia, by Vladimir (Ze'ev) Jabotinsky.[1] It was one of several right-wing youth movements that arose at that time and adopted special salutes and uniforms influenced by fascism.[2]
>During World War II, Betar was a source of recruits for both Jewish regiments that fought alongside the British and Jewish groups fighting the British in Mandatory Palestine. Betar was traditionally linked[clarification needed] to the original Herut and then Likud political parties of Jewish pioneers, and was closely affiliated with the Revisionist Zionist militant group Irgun.[2] Some of Israel's most prominent politicians were members of Betar (Betarim) in their youth, notably Prime Ministers Yitzhak Shamir and Menachem Begin.[3]

>criminal nazi regime of 1923

>>17937177
Except Germans never called for the murder of Jews. There's no motive and no evidence for the Holocaust. Meaning it's almost assuredly a lie

>>17937177
what evidence would you need to see to admit this isnt true?

>>17937165
Ok, and where does this webpage say anything about how many were killed by gas?

>>17937174
>>17937179
this proves what? nazis were right in murdering six millions of Jews because of this organisation?
>>17937181
I told you most of the motives, you can cope with it but facts don't care about your feellings

>>17937179
How many Germans did this betar group kill before 1939?

>>17937007
I take that silence as a yes.

>>17937191
3 millions jews didn't die in america bozo, that was your hallucination

>>17937159
What about allowing in Mischlings?

>>17937174
Hello ??????cunt. When are you going to tell us why Anne Frank murdered Heinz Bock?

>>17937185
>Duh the Germans are evil so I will believe anything said about them
So you're retarded?

>>17937207
You do realise that germans were not the only nation responsible for Holocaust?

>>17937268
Everyone knows that, Poland is actually responsible for more of it than Germany(look where all the death camps were vs just labor camps.

>>17937268
Killing communists isn't the holocaust

>>17937280
killing nazis isn't a war crime

>>17937286
well no not when you're at war with them

>>17937192
We'll do things in order, sweaty.
>the jewish global population before and after the war, why is it the same?
What was the source for this, and why did you believe it?

>>17937206
No reply, of course.

>>17935912
Why does Richard Evans hate him so much

>>17937862
Because he has AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSS!!!!!

>>17937018
It doesn't matter anymore than any other blood shed between all, regardless of what we deem human or not. But it's easier for everyone to abandon all reason and lean into tribal thinking while bitching about the tribes without thinking of ways to actually address the issues of clubs, cliques, oaths and so on that seemingly all corrupt and seek their power and narrow visions all the same. There is no difference depending on the gradient of desperation. There are no chosen, and none greater. It's all bullshit and circumstances. Truth hurts.

what was that thing about how if jews were really killed using that specific type of gas, they'd have red, swollen lobster like skin
except no such physical appearances were ever reported
was that ever disproven or elaborated on?

>>17938486
What WAS that thing? Off you go, find out for us and report back.

>>17935825 (OP)
>What is the single most compelling piece of evidence undermining the Holocaust narrative?
Grifters telling lies to gain clout

>>17936749
ywnbaw

Basically anything here

https://holocaustencyclopedia.com/instruments/camp/mixed-purpose-camp/auschwitz/379/

>>17938532
exterminationistsisters, not like this...